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@Chris.Davies 8 күн бұрын
Our ancestors enjoyed some pretty good drugs.
@FrankWoodJr 3 ай бұрын
WHERE ARE THESE AMAZING BEAUTIFUL PICTOGRAPHS !!! THE ART WORK 🎨 IS JUST INCREDIBLE 😲
@jarvisnelson4701 14 күн бұрын
It color enhanced via AI
@yvonnelewis4888 3 ай бұрын
Amazing and beautiful, if the rocks could speak… Thank you for sharing these incredible treasures!
@jerrianderson4867 3 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@redtobertshateshandles 4 ай бұрын
They're not arms. They're talons. The image represents a bird grabbing it's prey. I think each piece is unique. I don't know if one can classify them. Thanks for showing. Interesting.
@redtobertshateshandles 4 ай бұрын
That was pretty good. Loved the enhancement. Thanks.
@kathycondon4734 4 ай бұрын
What does the cave art show??😮
@shumlaarchaeologicalcenter 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for your question! We have a wonderful presentation by Shumla's Senior Preservation Archaeologist called "Understanding Lower Pecos Feline Imagery on our KZbin channel that talks about some of the possible interpretations. You can check it out here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKSngXxqdqqNgck
@yvonnelewis4888 3 ай бұрын
@@kathycondon4734 a lot of rock art is ancient and their meanings are not known. They have interpreted some of them. Some of the tall figures with the outstretched arms are shaman and dieties of theirs called katcinas. Some believe they are maps of information about this surrounding area. Water, gameju nok are often depicted on those walls. There is a book called.”The rocks begin to speak” That explores the meaning of several notable panels of rock art.
@BruceHartman 5 ай бұрын
These Hearthstone reports are most interesting and informative. Thanks for giving these webinars and answering the questions.
@rljatfrogpondschool7283 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your research... thank you
@rljatfrogpondschool7283 5 ай бұрын
I would love to see all the lithics found in that area.... because my study is ancient stone tools ...and on many of them here I find art and color ....it would be interesting to know that I could find both art and color on the stone tools from that area.
@UVJ_Scott 5 ай бұрын
Why do all rock art pictographs in the American Southwest look so similar ?
@shumlaarchaeologicalcenter 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your question! There are a lot of similarities among pictographs. They are often made with the same colors...black, red, yellow, and white. And, pictographs from different areas often have the same shapes....square-bodies torsos, facing outward, or stick-bodies. We are all human and we often create images in a similar fashion. People from the past are just like us. On the other hand, there are differences. In some areas, pictographs are made with green and blue pigment. And, for people who study rock art, they can often place where an image was created just from a photograph....Four-corners area versus Texas versus California versus the Plains. We appreciate your interest in the rock art of the Lower Pecos Canyonlands of Southwest Texas and we hope you'll visit our website to learn more about our work! www.shumla.org
@redtobertshateshandles 5 ай бұрын
I saw the spirit of a virus that had infected me. If I was an artist I could reproduce it. I think these people were reproducing what they had seen and imagined. Maybe the spirits of the cactus in one painting. The cactus has it's own spears and there are human made spears depicted. Is this an explanation of how humans got spears from the cactus spirit ?? Thanks for showing.
@westho7314 5 ай бұрын
5k-6k years of age is considerably long age for paint & figures to endure in a rock shelter thats so shallow & exposed to the elements, also the variety of colors used in the executions is extraordinary with a poly of color application as opposed to so many pictographs being monotonal using 1 -3 different colors at best or 1-3 shades of the same color.Throughout history until more recent commercial times, artists made their own concoctions of pigments with the ultimate aim and concern being the longevity of the pigment. with permanent oils often cracking and flaking after time, yet fresco painting like a water based tempura type medium applied to damp plaster to allow maximum penetration like a stain, eliminating the flaking and cracking. Fresco painting was commonly done on the cathedral ceilings and walls in Europe as well as on murals & stucco base relief sculptures in Meso America.Your presentation was good, but may i suggest a few things to enhance your production by showing more photography of the subjects your speaking about while talking ,including photos of the whole panel and the individual images instead of 1/2 images cut off at the head, showing D stretch images of the entire panel as well as individual characters in detail would be a great addition too, By Bringing the 5 other shelter sites into the conversation with many of them being 3k years older it would be great to see photographs of those sites & panels as well, to compare styles & to put it all in context, a picture is worth 1000 words in this case. less graphs & more attention to images would be great.
@marjoriegoodwin2993 6 ай бұрын
This is amazing. This makes seeing what is actually there so much easier. Do you mind if I say it is actually very trippy?
@12TribesUnite 6 ай бұрын
Please check out the latest video on artwork in the mountains of china - I would love to get your feedback ! Regards
@12TribesUnite 6 ай бұрын
Interesting !
@rljatfrogpondschool7283 8 ай бұрын
If I was looking at this mural up close I would wonder if the rock that they painted on was prepared in any way such as sharp edges made soft by grinding a little bit because I have a tendency to see the images that are on the stone I can sort of look past all color just to be looking for the possible image that was on the stone so I would have to be up close to see if this stone wall was prepared before it was painted on the first time
@rljatfrogpondschool7283 8 ай бұрын
I'm sure you folks can't afford this but I would love to see a gigantic building with this complete Muriel done in mosaics inside that building
@shumlaarchaeologicalcenter 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your comment! We have not seen evidence of the Indigenous artists intentionally smoothing or grinding the physical surface of the limestone walls prior to painting. The limestone surfaces under the paint appear to have the same texture as the surrounding areas of the shelter without paint. We have noted some examples of where the artists incorporated natural features of the rock wall into the painting-- using the rough texture of the shelter wall as part of the composition.
@rljatfrogpondschool7283 8 ай бұрын
I made a video to sort of introduce myself... Joanna will download it for me this weekend... I will be talking to you guys in that video.... smiles
@thomasschimmeyer8715 8 ай бұрын
At kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4DdmpSrZ5uDp9Em50s it appears to me to be a shaman's interpretation of a firsthand account of an Aztec temple. The jagged "steps" on the side as well as the stairway in the center to the squared top. It also appears to possibly have bodies falling down the sides with decapitated heads. The figures to the sides of the "temple" also appear to be depicted as blood fountains.
@redtobertshateshandles 5 ай бұрын
Some look like cactus people, and one looks like a dog person. The " temple" ?? A flower, or fruit. There are overlaying pictures ?? No ?? I'm not an artist. So I don't know. There appears to be a human head, but it's black and doesn't seem to fit ??
@thomasschimmeyer8715 5 ай бұрын
@@redtobertshateshandles Art is a tricky thing for sure. It is all in the eye of the beholder and "meaning" can be obscured. Interesting how we all see different things in it.
@BarbaraWright-u8i 8 ай бұрын
These stunning images and reconstructions remind me of what Picasso said after viewing Spanish cave paintings: "We have learned nothing new." Some images make me wonder if Paul Klee wasn't an Indigenous American in a former incarnation. I live near Sedona and each time I encounter a glyph or graph on a hike, I am delighted to be a witness. Have learned much from your presentation. Thank you.
@shumlaarchaeologicalcenter 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and insights! It's fascinating to see how ancient cave paintings and rock art continue to inspire and provoke thought. We appreciate your support and are glad to hear that our presentation has been enriching for you.
@rljatfrogpondschool7283 8 ай бұрын
May I have your permission to post a video on my channel explaining the enthusiasm and importance of the work you guys are doing may I do that
@shumlaarchaeologicalcenter 8 ай бұрын
Yes, please feel free to share this video and direct folks to shumla.org if they have any additional questions and would like to learn more! Thank you
@rljatfrogpondschool7283 8 ай бұрын
....Very enlightening video.... this is what I needed to know... thank you guys so very very much
@shumlaarchaeologicalcenter 8 ай бұрын
We're so glad you enjoyed the video! We offer free monthly virtual Lunch & Learn presentations. I'm including a link to our website where you can find other presentations we have on the schedule this year - more to come. shumla.org/education/lunchandlearn/
@rljatfrogpondschool7283 8 ай бұрын
....I would like to help... I would like to write you guys a long letter and try to explain how I may be able to help...my study includes the painted art on my collection...and the ancient uniface stone tool patterns used to create the tools ...before they were painted.... hello....my name is ray
@shumlaarchaeologicalcenter 8 ай бұрын
Hello Ray! Great to hear from you. Feel free to reach out to us via email at [email protected].
@armandolopez180 9 ай бұрын
I am about 15 minutes in, and this question may very well be answered later in the video, but I figured I'd ask here: is the claim that the painters of the Lower Pecos are the ancestors of the pyramid builders in Teotihuacan? Or that they would migrate from the Lower Pecos into Mesoamerica in the centuries between the end of the Pecos River Style and the construction of those pyramids?
@shumlaarchaeologicalcenter 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for your question! Some researchers (like Lopez Austin) argue the presence of early North Chichimec iconography in Mesoamerican indigenous groups. For example, the symbol complex of the Feathered Serpent has much earlier manifestations. However, to track the ancestors of the pyramid builders in Teotihuacan we would need more information and research. What we know is that in the murals of the Lower Pecos, there are iconographic motifs that we can see in Mesoamérica (Teotihuacan murals and other sites). Since the Archaic period, hunter-gatherers painted symbols that are part of an ancestral religious tradition.
@CRIMSONKINGRAGE 10 ай бұрын
I think most of the enhancements are completely shite and ruins what you are trying to do
@yvonnelewis4888 3 ай бұрын
No one asked you to watch this. Its an effort to reveal what is hard to distinguish by just a photo image. If you don’t like this, why did you watch it?
@jerry-xi4gi 10 ай бұрын
some parts you went straight past with enhancement...they would have been amazing...i don't understand why you did that ?
@Mahziii-NZ 10 ай бұрын
has the whole site been enhanced? would love to see it...
@shumlaarchaeologicalcenter 10 ай бұрын
Hi, and thank you for your comment! The links below provide higher resolution Gigapan imagery created for for certain panel sections: - Panel 1 Section 5 - www.gigapan.org/gigapans/224725 (DStretch LDS) - Panel 1 Section 6 - www.gigapan.org/gigapans/224665 (DStretch LDS) - Panel 1 Section 7 - www.gigapan.org/gigapans/224663 (DStretch CRGB) - Panel 1 Section 8 - www.gigapan.org/gigapans/224660 (DStretch LDS) - Panel 1 Section 9 - www.gigapan.org/gigapans/224658 (DStretch LDS) - Panel 1 Section 10 - gigapan.com/gigapans/224656 (DStretch LDS) - Panel 1 Section 11 - gigapan.com/gigapans/224604 (DStretch LDS)
@kamilakamila1452 11 ай бұрын
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@stacyf.5320 11 ай бұрын
Wow these videos are fascinating! I just stumbled across them yesterday and am hooked! The book is on my list next to get! Thank you for making this info available 🌑☀️
@shumlaarchaeologicalcenter 11 ай бұрын
We're so glad you've found us! If you are interested in connecting with us further, we have a monthly newsletter that goes out at the end of the month. We also share more information in specific rock art motifs every Monday on our Facebook and Instagram pages! shumla.org/connectwithus/
@josephcross7960 11 ай бұрын
Let's preserve all the art of the native americans, who we slaughtered and stole all 99.1 percent of their land, how nice..................
@lenej-kj6zy 11 ай бұрын
It's very cool but one very interesting one was missed and not enhanced and it is a clearer one than the first. Look at 1:10, in-between the first enhancement and the second.
@HernanRojas-v1f 11 ай бұрын
un colisionador de partículas trayendo a este mundo un gran mal.
@geoffreybudge3027 11 ай бұрын
Looks like Montezuma‘s well in Arizona
@moonyaan 11 ай бұрын
5:14 that look like a portal, incredible
@comontoshi Жыл бұрын
Hmmm . . . I can tie my sailboat at the dock right?
@shirleyrandolph8986 Жыл бұрын
P R O M O S M 💋
@AmberLynn87 Жыл бұрын
😊that was amazing to see.
@juliuscasey5055 Жыл бұрын
😢 "promo sm"
@John-ge2ne Жыл бұрын
Glad to see your teeth looking so straight, healthy and white.
@carlfeagans7583 Жыл бұрын
I did my archaeology field school at Shumla and it's a memory and experience I treasure! Not only did I learn a bit about dirt archaeology like they do in every other field school, but we learned how to record rock art! Thank you, Shumla!
@shumlaarchaeologicalcenter Жыл бұрын
What a wonderful memory, thanks for sharing!
@georgefreeman1899 Жыл бұрын
Interesting...😊