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@mitchellbrusseau Күн бұрын
This was super helpful
@GaryGreys-ri4wi 3 күн бұрын
Its cool you can and I even searched and was interested. But if you've got a 4070ti why my brother? Can deffo afford a pc if got that 😂. I wanna connect a 5090 though, not because i should but because we can 😂😂
@tomd7724 4 күн бұрын
hi thanks for this video for science, incredible !👏 I found the solution to get more bandwidth with the combination: MSI Claw + UT3G + Thunderbolt HUB. Indeed, with the TB4 Satechi HUB, there's the Intel TB4 limitation with a 2200 mb/s 3000 mb/s bandwidth on MSI Claw. This is due to the HUB's Intel Goshen Ridge Chipset (TB4) and the MSI Claw. However, the UT3G is a USB4 ASM2464 chipset with 40 GB of bandwidth. There are bandwidth losses from USB4 to TB4 due to the Intel chipset. With the Legion Go, there's no loss because it's AMD USB4 and not Intel. Normally, the bandwidth is 3400 mb/s 3600 mb/s with the UT3G , but I bought a Thunderbolt 5 HUB from OWC, which gives more bandwidth with an Intel TB4 chipset. Now, the TB5 HUB chipset is Barlow Ridge. It provides more bandwidth for the MSI Claw in TB4, but less than for the Legion Go in USB4. According to my data, it's: 2800 mb/s 3600 mb/s on the MSI Claw Intel TB4 chipset. That's still more than the TB4 HUB. Thanks for showing me this trick with the UT3G/HUB/MSI CLAW combination. I now have a UT3G with the HUB OWC TB5, which allows me to connect all my peripherals (keyboard/mouse/XBox controller, SSD...) I had also tried the Satechi TB4 but there is less bandwidth. I sent it back to Amazon but it worked perfectly. If you get a chance, try the OWC TB5 HUB (it doesn't cost too much in reality).
@ThundTech 4 күн бұрын
thank You for as always for very interesting comment. i will try this hub in near future. also i will do some more tests with what i currently have. thanks again for Your support It's always nice to hear others' experiences with similar equipment. I hope that we will build a nice community here on the channel.
@tomd7724 3 күн бұрын
@@ThundTech it was you who got me thinking about using the HUB. Your channel is great with the tests. So I tried 3 hubs: Amazon Basics HUB TB4, Satechi slim Pro TB4 and OWC TB5. The worst is Amazon Bacisc because I was in PCI E 2.0 and big drops in performance : 1900 /2600 mb/s. Satechi's data is the same as yours: PCI 4.0 and 2200/3000 mb/s And with the OWC TB5: 2800/3600 mb/s. You can't do better than that with an Intel chipset . I also have the TH3P4G3, which also has 2200/3000 mb/s PCI E 3.0 . On the OWC TB5 manual, it's stated that it can be used to connect an egpu, which is interesting. there's only a 100 mb/s loss of bandwidth compared with connecting the UT3G directly to the MSI Claw without a HUB (but no power delivery). I've plugged in the egpu, keyboard/mouse/xbox controller/external SSD (not TB5) and also usb key. You can also plug in a Mac that has a TB port. I have an RTX 3060TI: I play either a 24" 1080p screen or directly on the MSI Claw with a 2-meter Belkin active Tb4 cable, which is fantastic.
@ThundTech 3 күн бұрын
Yes, I had my hub quite a while ago, before I started running the channel, I used it mainly for work. Your comment is very interesting and probably, knowing me; ) I will test your HUB even though it is about $100 more expensive. From what you write, the data stream goes at the same speed as directly between the EGPU and the device (laptop or console). very interesting, thanks for this info.
@ThundTech 4 күн бұрын
I'm sorry everyone, but I had to re-upload the video due to the detection of 120 seconds of copyrighted background music, even though the song was marked as copyright-free. I hope you will support me with Your likes and great comments (which I didn't have time to respond to) again. thank You all for your support.
@danunreal99 4 күн бұрын
caca
@sturm5061 7 күн бұрын
Super 👍👍👍
@sturm5061 7 күн бұрын
Cool 👍👍👍
@mohammadalfianirsyadulibad2329 7 күн бұрын
How about the temperature of msi claw, bro? Have u measure it?
@agsirawan2676 6 күн бұрын
U can see in video. Cpu temp is about 67°c
@Makotoyuki31 8 күн бұрын
How much thunderbolt 4 dock bro do you have a link
@ThundTech 5 күн бұрын
200$ satechi.net/products/thunderbolt-4-slim-hub-pro
@danchips8880 8 күн бұрын
CPU only 35W? why not 40W
@user7612-n5y 8 күн бұрын
how do you get more than 60 fps, mine is hardcap at 60
@Gusxdd 9 күн бұрын
I get a graphic driver error and I already have the latest version, any solution? 😢
@LucasBless 11 күн бұрын
What is a model of monitor that you use?
@ThundTech 5 күн бұрын
SAMSUNG S27A ODYSSEY G3
@khaledm8754 13 күн бұрын
Hey, I'm wondering what happens to the integrated GPU while you're using the external one. Is it 80% inactive? I wanted the load to be maxed out on both but I'm not sure whether the integrated will just take 0 load and let the external do all the work
@RUSDAKULINER 14 күн бұрын
MSI CLAW have bypass charging?
@YoubroTelevsision 15 күн бұрын
Where is the third switch? My tv isn’t detecting the gpu it’s in the device manger but and it’s says working properly but it’s not showing up on my tv!
@hardwell9191 15 күн бұрын
Thanks for referring me to this video from one of your other videos, much appreciated. I do wish you made some more benchmarks with other games to see what the difference in performance is in other games as well, because I've heard some games run worse then others with an eGPU.
@hardwell9191 15 күн бұрын
I can't really find anyone comparing the UT3G with a desktop PC. Everyone just compares it with other gpu docks that are more bandwith limited. So to my question, how much of a performance loss is there between this kind of setup and a full gaming PC?
@ThundTech 15 күн бұрын
hello, for now i have one short video but with MSI Claw eGPU vs. Desktop PC kzbin.info/www/bejne/inbOZJp5eNSbeJY
@hardwell9191 15 күн бұрын
@@ThundTech Thanks, finally someone that has some actual numbers compared to a desktop PC. As far as I can see from Cyberpunk at least, It's about 10-20% difference which should be just fine for me. I was more worried it would be like 30-40%. I'm planning on pairing my Ally X with a 7800XT. I already have everything except for the GPU which I'm still waiting for.
@12ig 15 күн бұрын
320fps with 720p with xess performance Performance like steam deck with xess performance 😂😂😂
@SSSDarkgaming 15 күн бұрын
Would you recommend the legion go
@giangle2849 17 күн бұрын
What is the bandwidth in cuda and aida64? If I may ask
@honeyandclover4210 17 күн бұрын
Multiplayer plss
@sernasolisluiseduardo6382 18 күн бұрын
Do you feel any lag on the mouse and keyboard?
@ThundTech 5 күн бұрын
no, everything works fine
@funny_animalandia 19 күн бұрын
Amazing please test it at 720p low as the legion Go S run it on 81 fps average so I would like to compare
@johsnobirlayes-nr8uo 19 күн бұрын
any cheaper alternates for satechi?
@clausius594 20 күн бұрын
Very nice, thank you very much :)
@ThundTech 20 күн бұрын
I'm glad you like it and thanks for Your comment:)
@tomd7724 20 күн бұрын
Incredible presentation., it's clean Gaming Avatar is magnificent in 4K with this MSI Claw CPU goes up to 100° omg. It's normal, it's Intel Meteor Lake CPU 99%, maximum performance with egpu with Thunderbolt 4 I played the game on Xbox Series X, and it was a little less beautiful at 30 fps 🥲 The game is mediocre but graphically impressive
@ThundTech 20 күн бұрын
Hello and thanks for the great comment. The game looks amazing, it's true. Developers could have made it a work of art, but we know what the reality is today when it comes to creating games:) I need to work on the CPU temperature in my free time - although I played Avatar for almost 4 hours without a break and there were no problems, it is still too high. ps. I need to see this game on xbox (i have series x also) someday, I like to compare how games look on different devices.
@tomd7724 20 күн бұрын
@@ThundTech On my Claw it also goes up to 100°, but I put some thermal paste back on after changing the SSD, but it's impossible to lower it, except to limit performance. This is also the case with an egpu. It's the Intel architecture I don't have any problems either, no crashes. It just heats up.
@ThundTech 20 күн бұрын
exactly, I also changed the paste and there is no difference in temperature. Besides, the temperatures can also be high in the Asus Rog Ally, and I won't even mention the problems with the Lenovo. This is the first generation, let's see what happens next.
@sturm5061 20 күн бұрын
👍👍👍
@vasiliybr9510 21 күн бұрын
Avatar frontiers of pandora? Will be stattering?
@ThundTech 20 күн бұрын
When You wrote this comment, I had an avatar test in production, but with MSI Claw and EGPU. the game works fine but need to go to around high preset with the settings. If You are interested here it is kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGeoe6ecYrGIg68
@vasiliybr9510 20 күн бұрын
@ThundTech я играю на Леново Легион. В игре постоянные заикания. И мне интересно : поможет ли внешняя видеокарта решить проблему или нет?
@DenByu-q4g 21 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video, dude. Can you do more tests? I want to do the same on my laptop soon. P.D: Do you have the link to buy the egpu dock? Thanks.
@ThundTech 20 күн бұрын
hello, thanks for the comment. I have another video with a laptop and EGPU with game tests in 4K. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2HLl4aZm5x5hZY I plan to do more tests with laptops and it will definitely appear on the channel soon. As for the link to UT3G, I currently don't have a proven one, but please be careful because you can currently get a lot of Chinese fakes.
@DenByu-q4g 20 күн бұрын
@@ThundTech Thanks a lot dude, I appreciate your advice! By the way, how do you keep the CPU temperatures so low? I was watching this video and the other one, and the temperature didn't increase too much.
@ThundTech 18 күн бұрын
sorry for replying late. when it comes to cpu temperature - I don't do anything, the entire laptop is at factory settings.
@timmur8566 22 күн бұрын
Just got my thunderbolt 4 dock, power supply and gpu ordered so thank you for the video it will be a huge help when I go to set it all up!
@ThundTech 21 күн бұрын
thank You and HF with Your new hardware: )
@gjs1026 23 күн бұрын
Thank you ❤
@ThundTech 22 күн бұрын
You're welcome 😊
@snoozemozart 23 күн бұрын
After 3 Minuten Gaming i have a Green Screen with my Msi claw and 7800xt
@ThundTech 20 күн бұрын
Yes, I read somewhere about the problems of this card with UT3G, but unfortunately I have not tested such a combination, so I cannot advise.
@snoozemozart 20 күн бұрын
@ i found the problem. It was the Thunderbolt Hub and my hdmi 2.1 on my tv. When i switched to 4k 60 its running. The hub can run 4k and 60. Not 1080 and 120 fps, Chen it will be crushed
@ThundTech 20 күн бұрын
interesting, what model of thunderbolt hub do you have?
@LopezLPPL 23 күн бұрын
Nice to see game from polish developer. Good demo
@nobrunobru2584 24 күн бұрын
What you think the better with legion go for 1440p or maybe a few 4k screen 40~49 inch Its 4070 ti or 4070 ti super ? with egpu i have a razer core x ?
@ThundTech 23 күн бұрын
this is 4070ti not Super. (for 4K resolution 4070ti super will be a bit better with 16 GB Memory)
@nobrunobru2584 24 күн бұрын
Woow nice screen & video !!!! Good job 👍👍
@ThundTech 23 күн бұрын
Thank You: )
@itzdcx 25 күн бұрын
Combine this with lossless Scaling and that's double or Triple the FPS
@tomd7724 26 күн бұрын
the power of the magnificent graphics card, exciting 😍
@itzDeity 26 күн бұрын
Is this running off steam blozzard or xbox app
@LopezLPPL 26 күн бұрын
I have ultrawide monitor and Legion Go myself and for quite some time I was wondering how much performance you can gain with eGPU. I was thinking about getting one before building full fledged PC. I must admit that your channel convinced me to go for it. Keep up the good work and I hope you will upload more of those gameplay demos!
@tomd7724 24 күн бұрын
egpu with a dock + RTX is amazing
@ThundTech 24 күн бұрын
thank you very much for the great comment. yes, this is a great solution - you can take your small computer with you everywhere and at home, if you have EGPU, you can play in 4k at the highest details. This generation of mobile computers certainly supports the development of eGPU and will gain even greater momentum if further versions of both "PC consoles" and Thunderbolt enter the market. we'll see what the future brings :) in the near future there will be more different tests/gameplays and more equipment. thanks for your support and see You next time :)
@tomd7724 27 күн бұрын
Thank you very much I did the same thing last week. I switched to a Crucial 1TB SSD like you. It's better and faster But it took a long time to reinstall Windows afterwards. I hadn't cloned and I did a fresh install! I needed a USB key and boot
@ThundTech 27 күн бұрын
Thank You for Your comment. Yeah, fresh install is always a pain but.. it's even worth doing it once in a while :)
@Makotoyuki31 22 күн бұрын
If I re install windows, Do I need to buy windows license key?
@ThundTech 9 күн бұрын
sorry for late respond. You don't need to purchase a new Windows license after replacing a drive in MSI Claw because the Windows operating system license is tied to a digital key assigned to the motherboard, not the hard drive.
@Makotoyuki31 9 күн бұрын
@ oh thank you so much
@LopezLPPL 27 күн бұрын
Nice job with this video
@ThundTech 27 күн бұрын
thank You very much
@vu8346 27 күн бұрын
Can intel arc b580 paired with legion go?
@MayronMagerl 20 күн бұрын
lol
@tallonbennett7789 28 күн бұрын
Thank you for showing this off! Thinking about doing something like this myself. Curious why you chose to use the UT3G and a dock over the TH3P4G3? I know the UT3G performs better, but thats only if it can use the full 40GB/s... Do you use any external drives or mouse / KB with the dock? If you do, is there any decreases in performance?
@ThundTech 27 күн бұрын
I decided that UT3G would be a bigger challenge for the consoles I have (I might add that I already had most of the equipment needed to run it). and it will be a good choice to start the adventure with my KZbin channel. I want to share my passion with viewers and this is only the beginning of the implementation of my plans - I will have more of this type of equipment to be able to make various interesting comparisons and tests. I want this channel to be a place for people looking for information about mobile equipment used mainly for gaming. I believe that mobile PC (what the market currently offers) is the first generation of the future and the direction in which this technology will develop. regarding your question - after connecting the keyboard and mouse there will be no reduction in performance. have a nice day and happy new year :)
@markdavenportjr5129 28 күн бұрын
Very awesome the legion go is a BEAST! I can't wait to get my egpu and upgrade the ssd inside it. :)
@norvinguerrero 29 күн бұрын
Hola amigo nos compartes el link de amazon donde compraste la fuente de poder Asus por favor
@markdavenportjr5129 29 күн бұрын
Handhelds is the FUTURE! I just got my legion go due to the black Friday sale. And its AMAZING. Now I just need to grab a egpu dock for it. :)
@ThundTech 29 күн бұрын
congratulations on Your purchase - HF !:)
@LopezLPPL Ай бұрын
Hi, awesome video. What RTX 4070Ti model is that?
@norvinguerrero 29 күн бұрын
Es correcto es la rtx 4070 ti super la que él está usando
@ThundTech 28 күн бұрын
hello my model: GeForce RTX 4070 Ti GAMING OC V2 12GB GDDR6X 192bit
@LopezLPPL 28 күн бұрын
@@ThundTechThanks!