@@treyaintserious There’s nothing innovative about the Swing Lead. How you get to it…that’s where the innovation lies. I love how coaches say there’s nothing new left. Everything that can be done has already happened in 140 yrs of the game. It’s not the X&O drawings on the chalkboard or today, on the computer, but the concepts. What is the process in each of the players minds. The process that aligns them into a single play. How they get from there to here and back. Thats what it’s all about.

@ yup, a reinvention or repurposing of older concepts. Some concepts gain more popularity with certain stages of the football cycle, and it’s so beautiful to see. I remember going over a Dick LeBeau playbook from his time with the Bengals and his Thunder/Lighting (2 roll safety pressure) has picked back up with teams in this modern era as teams are looking to stop the run with pressure like keeping 2 deep. Football is so beautiful

@@treyaintserious it’s too bad the avg fan and media doesn’t see any of this. This game is becoming more about what’s off the field than on.

@@treyaintserious btw- this was the idea Walter Camp had when he invented the line of scrimmage. And downs. He was playing up to the strategy of these team games. His thought process was the forever evolving strategies in team sport being exemplified best in this new game of football 🏈

@@PowerSpreadXO exactly!!

@@SeahawksTotheBowl Thanks man! I’ll keep it rolling in off-season!

oh btw - I thought Seahawks had a shot for playoffs this yr - can't believe they missed out at 10-6! - oh and like and subscribe....I gotta get used to saying that ... I think

@@ATL3xtra 3 strong safety? What exactly is that? Do you have film of it?

@@MichaelTorrance-p8c you are right about “cocky”! That’s where I think the media and social media as such an effect. These kids are reading and hearing. Even the coaches. Remember when Ryan Day yelled about Lou Holtz comments. Ridiculous. The old great coaches of the past would be disgusted by all of this nonsense. And they would certainly preach focus and ignoring all the outer distractions. It’s just that it’s SOOO much now it’s very hard to ignore. So everyone was big time on the Oregon bandwagon. Even at the start of the yr. I said it in my CFB preview. I like Lanning. I like Will Stein better. The talent is there as well. But this isn’t their yr. Yet. I never thought they were winning the NC this yr. But I do think they were a legit playoff team. And I can only say that for about 4 or 5 of these teams this yr.

Oh, my point. Haha. I did think that Oregon got cocky. Due to all the hype all yr. And i felt that in the interviews before AND after the game. They bought into the hype. For the buckeyes I think they are more veteran team and also they only are having the hype now. Just 2 weeks ago everyone wanted to fire Day. So I don’t think they are listening to the media and fans at all. But if they do they will get too cocky as well. And they could have a letdown but it seems that somehow this has all come together at the right time. Honestly, there are flaws in Days strategy as a HC, imo. That’s the truth. But he’s a smart guy. And he’s still a young HC and growing and learning.

@@RoofDoctorsJoanne easier to block up front when the scheme is good. Hesitancy on the defense is the offense’s greatest ally.

@@RoofDoctorsJoanne plus. I was happy to hear our olineman sick in camp. I got a lot of my info from Juck and his man Dillon. But with sick olineman I knew the backups were getting reps. I love our depth this yr except oline. But upon hearing of the decent play by Montgomery and others I felt a lot better and it’s come into play. Now, SpTeams. Another story. Still concerns there. Just hope we don’t need them for a win. But who knows. There were some signs thru the yr that there was improvement. We certainly have the athletes to create SpTeams explosives.

Oh man, Juck. He drove me nuts! A 5 yd out was a 5 yd over the head pass. Just terrible at times. But hey, he was going to be a doctor.🤦🏻what’s that have to do with football?? Thank god for Maurice Clarett.

basically the check down. Last resort.

yea, there's a lot of this unbalanced sets now - taking from the Brock Marion GoGo ideal - but not necessarily the way he does it. it's amazing how quickly this stuff flies around CFB and then to NFL these days. As I said in the vid - Nico MAY not be the primary - I'm not in the locker room to know 100% - but Stroud came off of him very quickly - I appreciate the comment - yes - spacing > lead swing - no doubt - but I still question that as a "check down / last resort" because Nico - if he really was the primary - had space ... plus, how is he "hot" with no blitz happening? btw - love all the unbalanced stuff happening - the unbalanced line was a big thing in the Single Wing Power days of last century - but the unbalanced spread is a whole other concept and been a long time coming ... air raid and other route ideas would do unbalanced route designs - but now we even see 5 eligibles on one side of the field at a time - cool shit!

@@PowerSpreadXO “hot” as in alert. if it’s there presnap, take it now, if not, read the rest of the concept. He likely thought to go there and then changed his mind cuz he didn’t like the window. By then he had to check it down since the concert front side was quick game as well

@@iyemidesolomi426 Ok so wording. Want to argue about the primary, fine - but the point I'm making is the simple concepts that are being used by these coaches to make it easy for the qb and get the ball out of their hands. In the end - the wording is for the team - to be on the same page - I'm studying the ideas behind it. The idea is that the "primary" doesn''t necessarily have to be the first read. For me, this first read is really secondary Only throw it if there's a massive window -- otherwise - whip around to the "pimary" which was the swing to the other side. The whole idea is the simplicity of the read and the Quick Game ideal.

@@robertrosin5145 sort of. McDaniel and Slowik looking to simplify for these guys. Makes the qbs look like geniuses if they play the scheme.

Definitely!

Sid Gillman started it. Check your history. They didn’t call it west coast. Neither did Walsh. The modern pro pass game predicated on drop steps and route design to match was started by Gillman 100%. Not debatable. Both Coryell and Walsh learned from him. (Al Davis as well) Paul Brown liked the older school Spread of Dutch Meyer (Rusty Russell) and one time supposedly gave Meyer’s book to Walsh and told him to learn something. They had an adversarial relationship. As for the reads deep to short or short to deep. Yes. You are correct. 👍 but I wouldn’t call Fouts release “slow”. His read took longer. But his actual release was quick. But again Gillman started all of this. And his mentor was Frances Schmidt. Father of detailed route and play designs with variety. He did it all from the Single Wing but with a ton of variety. Thus Gillmans Sets pre snap were condensed compared to the college spread. Thus the Pros use a lot of condensed sets and spread post snap.

Exactly. Breaking down this particular for an hour is a little silly imo. And I wouldn’t call McDaniel a “diabolical genius”, but I like what he’s starting to explore. Combining some concepts I haven’t seen combined in such a simple way. More than all the above is the Gameday Culture. My podcast (drew @powerspread) previews of Sundays divisional games talks some about this. I want to explore it more. But it’s not only about an Organization Historical Culture or even the Culture in this year. It’s what kind of Culture you have that day! Something to do with momentum for sure. But more. What’s that famous line? “Culture eats scheme for lunch!” McDaniel imo gets that. Yes, it ain’t Madden. I played at Bucknell back when Schiano was our captain. Also in western Pa Gateway HS. Played at three rivers in Pitt back in the day. So I have a little idea about the game being played on the field.

Yup

Thanks man. Appreciate it!

Ok thanks I’ll fix it

Spread is a little bit of a silly term that gained popularity, but Power Spread was something I started to use back in 2009 to describe the new schemes in CFootball in the 00s that were able to combine a strong run/power game with a spread pass game. It continues to evolve and combine with Pro and AR concepts and yes everyone does it now. The first real spread sets began in the 1920s with Rusty Russell and continued by his good friend Dutch Meyer in the 1930s at TCU when Sammy Baugh played. Thus the term "spread offense" that gained popularity in the 00s was silly...football has spread for some 80 yrs previously - it was the power w/ the spread exemplified at first by Rich Rod and his Read Option out of Shotgun (it was already experimented with before that - Ben Griffith - Manny Matsakis) that was a new way of packaging old elements of the game.

Could be. Biggest issue is that the understanding of all this requires so much historical background. That’s why the talking heads on tv are missing stuff. The concepts are EVERYTHING. Not just the superficiality of the designs. I have a podcast and website . My intention is Writing / Talking / Film. Trying not to bleed it all into a mesh mess. Ha. Work in progress. Need to work this out in a full off season.

Agree. Didn’t have my “equipment” for these.

Been yelling about Michigan Culture and DeBoer Genius all year to friends then of late on my powerspread Podcasts. Here's the 2 CFP SF preview posts detailing my reasons for why I picked UM to start the year and why I've been a fan of DeBoer's Offense for a while and now his Culture as well - shouldve put in description powerspread.net/2024/01/01/2024-cfp-sf-rose-bowl-michigan-vs-alabama/ powerspread.files.wordpress.com/2024/01/2024_sb_digital_ads_washington_vs_texas1920x1080.jpg

Thank you. Have a 30m coming on the brilliant simplicity of DeBoer McDaniel and Slowik. Using stroud action. I’ve been doing this professionally behind the scenes for a long time. Never had the time to really share with the public much. Working hard to change that.

@@PowerSpreadXO I am a big fan. Expect more growth if you can can clean up some of the production quality of your breakdown ( that is an EXTREME NITPICK), but the way you speak is your best asset. Also you don't say "like" a lot

Oh yeah. Like the vid! 😂

@@LarryStranger check out the latest on Spags Double Dubs (something up w/ Algorithm being messed w/ according to my super youtuber nephew and I just wanted to make sure you saw that vid if you weren't subscribed!)

Definitely. In this vid I was just trying to show quick the great stunt - there's another angle that's better - whatever. DLine goes legit 9 deep! LB leaders. Talented DBs. top young DC. The O will play better in NC and will need to. UM and UW have been underrated all yr.

Sure. Go ahead. I would never just use his stuff without asking.

He actually asked that I just promote his stuff which I did. Thoroughly

That’s awesome! Thanks for sharing!

Yes. The backgrounds are varied but the WC concept started by Sid Gillman was based on spacing after the snap and timing. Yes it sets up many things. Blocking after the catch included. Those are more schematic whereas my intention is the general concept of Power and Spread as it relates to space time team. And the aggressive variety and possible flexibility involved. If I get too detailed it becomes a coaches session. There’s actual coaches out there for that and honestly that’s very in depth for the casual understanding. I do want to provide more details. The question for me is which ones. The historic connections are something I’m thinking about because I’m a history buff. Even going back before Walter camp. Here’s some of that for what you mentioned Reid is a BYU guy first then he learned the Walsh stuff. Then studied the Spread/PS stuff. Walsh of course got his stuff from Gillman first but then Coryell as well and meshed into his own. Coryell was from Gillman and Dutch Meyer Spread concepts. Martz is Coryell+. Then of course. Belichick. Now remember Weis was his first OC at NE. Everyone talks about the Erhardt Perkins simple conceptual ideas of Power with some of that Gillman WC pass Spread. (Not necessarily wco of Walsh. There’s a difference) Weis also dabbled in the Run &Shoot. That was Tiger Ellison from DMeyer again and his own thoughts also using some Gillman. Mouse Davis turned it from a Power Spread to a Pass Spread. So Weiss was a mix. PLUS Bill and Josh went to Urban to learn some PS and Pass Spread. This all became a bit of where Josh headed in his ideas. Which end up morphing around the talent. Which was Brady. Which became EP stuff anyway. Pro Power + a Pro Spread with a little other Pass Spread ideas. Back to Reid. So a BYU guy. What’s that. Some Gillman and even earlier spread stuff from DMeyer (Lavelle Edwards goes way back. I have the connections. This reply is already too long!) but when Lavelle latched on to the Walsh stuff his main man late great Doug Scovil along with others put together a unique “college” version of the WCO of Walsh. Air raid is that mixed with R&S and the brain of mumme and leach and then power added first by Franklin then Holgorsen (PSAR). So Reid was already doing a type of WCO then fell under the pure WCO guys. But BYU guys tend to be more flexible and experimental. Also with a dual threat QB. Morphing to the talent. So the BYU Pro Spread is perfect for PS. SO Reid gets Alex smith (urban qb PS) and eventually denotes his buddy Childress to study “Spread”. The difference being. A spread pass like WC or WCO spreads and spaces post snap. Spread or power spread is spread pre snap and not necessarily post snap. So back to my yes. Yes. Reid is still very WCO in his passing. I call it PRO PS. Capital PRO cause heavy in those concepts. Pro PS a little less heavy. Some Air Raid thrown in. Maybe old Gillman or Coryell style too. Etc. but now for me Reid is FULL PRO PS. because his experimentation has gone above and beyond. Like the Catch Options by Kelce. All the misdirection. Play action. Motion. Etc. PRO. But the full gamut with PS thrown in. Especially with Mahomes.

@@PowerSpreadXO I think Reid being buddies with BB has caused him change how he views player groups where he goes "thicker". His philly offenses were usually tight end based with one big wr and one little. In KC from smith to mahommes he's going with Stout players without roles. Tyreek could play rb. Kelce could have played wr. I think Reid will get the point with mahommes where the play will be just deep center. They will just make up a complex route scheme during the play. It will be more of an algorithm response than an actual play. If cb 1 j deep left if cb deep right if ss blitz if fs middle is too long. Simply attack deep center for tight end. Beyond that Reid, shanny, bb, martz, Ernie Adams, are the most current inventors.

@@aaronfreeman5865 I think it’s just a general progression to positionless football. Also all the nfl likes the Power aspect to Power Spread. Especially with nfl talent + technique. Andy is just evolving and felt free too as he saw different advantages to PS then got Mahomes. Now his line is Better for power running. In my podcast and SB article at powerspread.net I actually said the chiefs may out rush the eagles. But also said hurts would get his rush yds. As for innovation. College is the key. Belichick was ahead of his time. Going to the college game. And Reid went back as well. They will experiment in college. Too scared in nfl. Money + talent. But now nfl hires all kind of college coaches. And college is incorporating all kinds of pro stuff thru nfl coaches. It’s all coming back around. Meshing into 1. Like it was in the 1930s 40s. Until the “option” split.

That's a great reply! It's all because of Time...it could be an hour or more long if I explain everything - for one play!! That said -- I agree - I will experiment with vids this season and see what I can do about that. That would be frustrating if you don't know what I'm saying. Plus, I'm intermingling my own concepts related to Power Spread... Here's one thought right away - I have a podcast and website too - I will put those up in the intro video I will do this week. The Podcast maybe should be used to explain a lot of the terms -- the Articles explain what the hell I mean by Power Spread... thanks again for your frustration and comment!

Agreed. But I’m breaking down in a PS Perspective Space Time Team. This particular vid I’m trying to share Reid’s masterful use of Space. Throughout the vid though I also give credit to Mahomes and Kelce’s Timing. As for Team I do make mention again of Mahomes exp/expertise and while I point out the errors by the DPlayers I also point out their youth and lack of experience + the genius of Reid’s Schemes in exploiting the Jags youthful over-aggression on D.

I love that you brought up Walsh. Reid is a BYU guy and while BYUs O is based off of Walsh’s early WCO it also has influences of the original WC master Gillman and of course Coryell’s take on that at SDST. I think Walsh today would have incorporated PS Offense as Reid has, but Walsh like Gillman could still be a bit rigid. (Bill Mountjoy would kill me if he heard me call Gillman rigid!) I like BYUs stuff cause it had a little more flexibility. Ala Reid. Thus he will go down in my PS history as the genius who was able to truly mesh PS and Pro concepts to such a high degree as to further evolve this game.

Steeler fan for life well said🏈

Absolutely. Before 2019. Reid has been working on this for a decade. His roots are BYU driven. He was always experimenting. Wasn’t surprising that he would be the leader of synching power spread from college with the pro concepts. In a unified whole. Not the “fractured” multiple stuff happening before him

Do remember … for everyone here.. I’m coming at this from a power spread perspective. PS = space time team. I’m looking at that macro perspective. Galactic fire you are in line with what I’m looking at. And sharing. Let’s go further back. Before 2019. Before 1919. How about 1902. When these players would literally be bunched in only one little space on the field. Bashing heads. That was simply POWER. They had no larger perspective of anything more concerning the use of Space. But they were starting to delve into concepts of Time and Team. Yost Heisman Stagg. Warner. Some smart men. Zuppke later on. Reid carries their legacy

@PowerSpreadXO absolutely! I remember everybody kind of questioning why he was using so many 3 TE sets in 2016-2017 (in Chiefs Fandom anyways) when he was seemingly putting out no name TEs in Ross Travis and James O'Shaughnessy. Those sets and concepts from that season lead the ground work to his current offense today. Which is incredibly interesting to think about how far ahead he was in getting in front of Vic Fangios defensive scheme that's seemingly causing NFL scoring to be down this season across the board. I really appreciate your historic perspective of the game. I could talk about this stuff all day. 😂

@@TimothyBell90 me too. I’m going to put an intro vid up top for non subs and subs and I’ll have a link to my website and podcast. I honestly have the whole history linked from Camp thru to now with theories on the future. I want to create powerspread.com for the every day football (nfl college and the 2 spring leagues) and keep powerspread.net for the History of the game and maybe some social commentary as well as it’s had a bigger social impact than people may think. I may also start to work with another coach manny matsakis on the full history of how we got from there to here. He had a big impact on many of the coaches and their concepts that led to all this PS and PS Pro stuff. I can break it down from those old guys. To a guy in the 1920s. Then Gillman(Brown). Tiger Ellison. And the 3 off shoots of his Offense and how it eventually connected back to Gillman then the whole Option football thing. It’s finally all come together after 100yrs into this cohesive whole. With PS, Pro with a splash of Air Raid. College is still more daring but the nfl is detailing all of it!

Dudes were wide open a lot in that game

Eagles had breakdowns in coverage all day. Just like Niners game. This time Mahomes burned them where a rusty JJ didn’t. open.spotify.com/episode/6uRKX5w4LtEOfLsA4F7ZdA?si=ITfrI_2ST4m0DnoO7o5Hig

True that. There are a million variables

Might be right. Tough call. My final SB Preview Podcast. PICK EM! anchor.fm/power-spread/episodes/SUPER-BOWL-XLVII-Chiefs-vs-Eagles---Pick-Em-e1us1mb Post to come within hour where I’m forced to pick a game that could go any which way. Even sideways!!

yawnnnnnnn ...

Appreciate it

You have 1 pass rusher and 2 rookie corners.... So in a way your correct, we haven't yet. Chiefs about to get dominated !!! FLYEAGLESFLY

The eagles played the 49ers who were the number 1 Defense

@@richcourtoreilli3126 I'll be back to this comment

You don't think they could get vertically stretched between AJ Brown/Devonta Smith threatening the deep ball and the Eagles running game?

Defense like who’s? The chiefs? Wtf is special about the chiefs D? It isn’t even top 15….. y’all chiefs fans are fuckin delusional af!

you can sell it anyway you chose ... no one has been able to shut down philadelphia's offense ... ( or defense either ... )

@@georgeway2092 As I said. Eagles are the best team this year. Doesn’t mean they are a lock to win. And I never said anything about shutting down… slowing down is how I said it.