I have a Travel XP and love it. However, please stop claiming that it is a 5 Hp motor. 1600W equates to some 2.2 Hp. It is physics and none negotiable. Thanks
@EMOElectric3 күн бұрын
Glad that you like the motor! You are correct in that directly converting 1600W to horsepower gives you about 2.2hp. Torqeedo's claim is that this motor performs like a 5hp gas outboard. It's more complex than a direct conversion given that there are efficiency losses in gas outboards that we don't have with direct drive electric outboards. I'd encourage you to check out our blog post on it, which explains this in detail. emoelectric.co/blogs/electric-outboard/understanding-electric-outboards-horsepower-vs-kilowatt
@robertbjoraker939519 күн бұрын
Really great review helped me pull the trigger! Huge improvements!
@EMOElectric16 күн бұрын
Glad that you found it helpful!
@artfulalias398419 күн бұрын
I don't see this design getting enough credit for how much space it could save in small craft with motor wells. Like cruising dinghy's. Its a niche market for sure. The well could be made much smaller. The well doesn't have to accommodate a traditional 'head' that extends forward of the mount and requires swing space inside the well.
@EMOElectric16 күн бұрын
Absolutely- that's what the eLite is designed for. It isn't a perfect solution for every boater, but it's a great solution for some!
@ZZ-ek7mx21 күн бұрын
What is the small boat used in this video? Thanks.
@EMOElectric16 күн бұрын
Hi! This video was produced by ePropulsion; we aren't sure exactly what type of boat that is, but it looks like it is <13ft or so.
@matswessling660023 күн бұрын
meh: the XP has only 1600 W. that is nowhere near 5 hp, rather slightly above 2 hp
@EMOElectric23 күн бұрын
You're right in that 1600 watts directly coverts to slightly over 2 horsepower, but the Travel XP does perform similarly to a 5hp combustion outboard. Small electric outboards like the XP are direct drive and much more efficient than combustion outboards, thus don't have the same efficiency losses. We've found that the horsepower equivalents that manufacturer like Torqeedo and ePropulsion provide and quite accurate relative to combustion outboards. You can read more about how the power output of traditional and combustion outboards are measured in this blog post we wrote last year: emoelectric.co/blogs/electric-outboard/understanding-electric-outboards-horsepower-vs-kilowatt
@matswessling660023 күн бұрын
@@EMOElectric That is not true: 5 horse power equalents does not result in same max speed as 5 horse powers. the "equvalent" is only valid for accelerantion, not for steady state: constant speed , which is the mode most people uses for most of the time.
@EMOElectric23 күн бұрын
@@matswessling6600 It's true that some electric outboard manufacturers advertise the acceleration power of the motor in a way that can be deceptive, but that isn't the case with the XP. It can produce 1600 watts constantly, not just for acceleration. If you're on Long Island, we'd be happy to have you out for a demo to show you in person!
It would be perfect is we could attach an external battery. Cant believe they did not add that. Such a shame.
@EMOElectric23 күн бұрын
The eLite is designed to be light weight, low cost, and portable. If you'd like to use an electric outboard that hooks up to an external battery, we'd suggest the ePropulsion 1.0 Plus. kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2Kmin-aj9Jjers
@pg8251Ай бұрын
Hello, how does the hydro charging feature work?
@EMOElectric27 күн бұрын
The hydrogeneration feature is available on the Spirit Evo and Navy Evo outboards with ePropulsion batteries (not the Spirit 1.0 plus or 3rd party batteries). You leave the motor down while you're sailing, and the prop turning will charge the battery. You need to be doing at least 5-6 knots for the charge to be meaningful. It will charge at slower speeds, but very slowly.
@larsltjАй бұрын
Can it be charged on the go?
@EMOElectricАй бұрын
Yes, we sell 12v chargers and solar charge controllers for the eLite. They are backordered at the moment but we expect to have them in September. emoelectric.co/products/epropulsion-elite-12v-dc-charger emoelectric.co/products/epropulsion-elite-solar-charge-controller
@Conks01Ай бұрын
Really great video this and the best out there so thanks. I really want to move on one of these but here in the Bristol Channel UK we have quite fearsome high tides and it can be choppy. With a 2.3m inflatable as a tender and having to travel a round trip of say 1.5nm, I'm wondering if this will have the power/guts to cut through the water and get me home?
@EMOElectricАй бұрын
Glad that you enjoyed the video! We'd expect a 2.3m inflatable to do between 4 and 4.5 knots with an eLite in calm conditions. You'd have about 45 minutes of run time at full power, which would give you about 3nm of range. If you're fighting current and chop, your speed at full power and range will certainly decrease, although by how much is difficult to say. Do you know how many knots of current you're usually dealing with?
@Conks01Ай бұрын
@@EMOElectric Thanks for the reply! Tide flows at around 3 knots
@terenceclayton3120Ай бұрын
Love this new setup keep the battery cool aswell
@olivierpochard2430Ай бұрын
I bought a Torqeedo Travel motor at the end of July 2023. I will never buy Torqeedo again. From the first uses I had an error code 30 (problem sending/receiving data between the battery and the engine) preventing the engine from starting... This problem is well known to Torqeedo. I followed the recommendations of Torqeedo support and tutorials (plugging and unplugging the cable several times so that the error disappears) all last season… It was stressful never being sure the engine was going to run... but it always started again after a few tries. This season I have the error code E30 again, but impossible to resolve the problem... I plug and unplug it dozens of times, I apply WD40 as recommended by Torqeedo but the blocking code does not disappear. I then contact Torqeedo support who directs me to an authorized reseller for maintenance. After receiving the motor, the latter tells me that Torqeedo does not apply the warranty on the pretext that a pin is broken on the cable (from plugging and unplugging 100 times, no doubt!!!). He tells me that I have to dismantle the entire engine, check the tightness, etc., all for the modest sum of 1000 euros, and without commitment of deadlines, the latter having no visibility on the availability of parts!!! (engine value 2349 euros). I follow up with Torqeedo support who doesn't want to hear anything. Yesterday the dealer contacted me to tell me that he is stopping business with Torqeedo, that I must pay shipping costs to recover my engine which is still out of service. And Torqeedo is still absent. So a piece of advice: avoid this brand, don’t buy Torqeedo!!!! Zero quality, zero service, no respect for “promises”, no consideration for the customer. There are a whole bunch of other brands and engines that are much more quality. Ps: I have a hybrid boat and I have always praised electric technologies...
@funkqueen1Ай бұрын
What an awful experience.
@frankiedoor5152 ай бұрын
How long can you go with solar connected thank you for information
@WayneTheBoatGuy2 ай бұрын
Nice seeing this new motor! Looks like they have made some great improvements and the extra hp is also good to see.
@EMOElectricАй бұрын
Absolutely! We're very happy to see the improvements from Torqeedo.
@Ryanstuff2 ай бұрын
I'm a bit worried about any kind of potentially missing internal battery management software if they are really worried about having to babythe batteries state of charge, especially considering the products seasonality. Besides that I think it's a pretty awesome design overall. Like others have mentioned I really wish that the internal battery was hot-swappable, or if they made a version that had twice the internal capacity with the same sleek design.
@EMOElectric2 ай бұрын
Like all ePropulsion batteries, the eLite has an internal BMS. You do need to check the state of charge when the motor is not in regular use, but ePropulsion recommends once every three months. ePropulsion doesn't tell us anything about products that are in development, but we wouldn't be surprised if there is a bigger version of the eLite in the works!
@henrygabriel7002 ай бұрын
ty for the video 🙏🙏🙏 any way u can make a video demo ing use of solar charger?? and dc adapter? to say a power station? how long to charge? can it keep battery topped off will light cruising? tysm for yer consideration 🙏🙏😊
@EMOElectric2 ай бұрын
You're welcome, and thanks for the input! We can certainly do a video on the chargers. We'll have a lot more videos coming out in the Fall when we have a bit more time on our hands!
@Brian-iv8sc2 ай бұрын
Does the battery float?
@EMOElectric2 ай бұрын
It does not float.
@funkqueen1Ай бұрын
😂
@funkqueen1Ай бұрын
Great video. I’m bummed a year ago I bought the 1103 and this newer model has so many nice feature. Argh! Anyone want to buy a used 1103 torqeedo?
@funkqueen1Ай бұрын
One more thing, how big is your boat that you have your torqeedo on?
@EMOElectricАй бұрын
@@funkqueen1 In this video we're testing the Torqeedo Travel XP on a 19' Flying Scot. She weighs about 800-1000 pounds.
@kevinbeesley9512 ай бұрын
Thanks for the excellent video - it was really usefull, and extremely well done! One quick question - if the motor will be used exclusively in fresh water, should I use different anodes? Any other things that might be different from sea water use? Thanks again!
@EMOElectric2 ай бұрын
We're glad that you found it helpful! If you're using the motor in freshwater, you don't need to rinse it to get the salt off, just to keep it clean. That's about it!
@grachoderunwiderstehlichen2 ай бұрын
charging the phone 🤦 ...how unprepared people could be for "relaxing" short trip holiday-feeling (kurztrip , naherholung) 👋🇩🇪
@grachoderunwiderstehlichen2 ай бұрын
"it works like advertised" ...🤔 middle sea the " new's " are shark/wale swim crazy ...so what will happen if something else than water catch this outboard engine? ropes from lazy seafarers are also to spot (rotterdam , antwerp etc. )
@robertfrederick90612 ай бұрын
it is sad there is no provision to add a supplementary battery power source to the Elite because the battery is "built in"side of the shaft. Seems to me that 45 minutes of runtime is not much for an auxiliary electric outboard that has no provision to add additional battery. Some thought should be considered for a simple clamshell housing to secure the 2 motor bracket screw downs to eliminate their loosening & unscrewing with loss of the motor overboard. It is a good idea that might benefit from improvement.
@EMOElectric2 ай бұрын
We haven't heard of any issues with the bracket loosening up, but there is a small area where you can tie a line through the elite and to your boat if you are concerned about it falling off. If you are looking for something with longer range and the option to add third party batteries, or batteries that you can swap out, we would recommend the Spirit Evo or Spirit 1.0 Plus.
@AndrewTimothy912 ай бұрын
Thanks! I may get one for my sailboat ⛵️
@EMOElectric2 ай бұрын
We can certainly help with that! Our website is www.emoelectric.co. Feel free to send me an email at [email protected] if you have any questions!
@mikelutton21572 ай бұрын
Thank you for the review. It looks like some good improvements, especially the elimination of cables. I just need to figure out how to put a motor mount on my 16' sailboat.
@EMOElectric2 ай бұрын
They definitely made some great improvements! What kind of sailboat is it? Feel free to send me an email to [email protected], I am happy to help with that!
@gilesgoldsbro58162 ай бұрын
Any hydro generation when under sail?
@EMOElectric2 ай бұрын
To the best of our knowledge, the new Travel motors do not have hydrogeneration. While it is a cool feature that some small outboards have, it is often not very practical in charging, as you need to be doing about 6kts or more for it to be meaningful on a small motor like this, which is usually not mounted on a boat that routinely does those speeds. The larger Torqeedo Cruise and pod drive motors do have hydrogeneration, as well as ePropulsion's Spirit Evo.
@lordenoch02 ай бұрын
@EMOElectric - 1. How exactly does one tighten the steering friction? 2. I have a 6" thick ISLE Switch Pro SUP with mounting plates for a transom. What would be the optimal depth or shaft length for the propeller? 3. What range would you guess the eLite would have at @1/4 power?
@EMOElectric2 ай бұрын
The steering friction can be tightened by tightening the nut on the bottom of the transom bracket with a 10mm hex wrench. The top of the propeller should be just below the bottom of the SUP. We'd need to know the distance from the top of the mounting bracket to the bottom of the SUP to figure out the ideal shaft length for the eLite, but I suspect it that the elite would work well for that. In terms of range, I would expect that you'd get about 3 hours of run time at 1/4 power. Feel free to send us an email to [email protected] and I'd be happy to work out the details of this with you!
@karlberardi43512 ай бұрын
A few concerns: Water ingress Materials used in re corrosion resistance Battery life/ eventual replacement Recharge options/specs
@BU_IDo2 ай бұрын
This ticks all the right boxes in terms of its mechanical design features. It's perfect in that regard. The negatives are the range and price. Create a non-integrated battery option where you slide a fresh battery down inside the shaft from the top and I am sold.
@nzldudeDNB3 ай бұрын
Great review thanks
@EMOElectric3 ай бұрын
You're welcome! Glad you liked it!
@3000KTM3 ай бұрын
surely you could remove that black top cap , drill a small hole & run some wires for an external battery
@EMOElectric3 ай бұрын
We would not recommend attempting this, and doing so would certainly void the warranty. If you need more range, we'd recommend the Spirit 1.0 Plus or Spirit Evo, both of which can be used with external and/or third party batteries.
@bindayirwin15233 ай бұрын
When these gadgets evolve into 120 amp hour lifepo battery and 70 pounds of thrust , im in
@badsamaritan82232 ай бұрын
People like you will ALWAYS find an excuse to rebuke technology, no matter how advanced it gets.
@hkilic034 ай бұрын
Are there any power box options available to charge the battery while in use on the water?
@EMOElectric4 ай бұрын
Yes, we have 12v and solar charge controllers available for the eLite. emoelectric.co/products/epropulsion-elite-12v-dc-charger emoelectric.co/products/epropulsion-elite-standard-charger-copy
@neilbes14 ай бұрын
How can 500w equate to 1.5hp ?
@EMOElectric4 ай бұрын
Good question! If you do the math, 500w does not equal 1.5hp. But this 500w motor will perform like a 1.5hp combustion outboard. Electric outboards are much more efficient than gas outboards, and their power output is measured differently. Check out our blog post on the topic for the full explanation. emoelectric.co/blogs/electric-outboard/understanding-electric-outboards-horsepower-vs-kilowatt
@bakrob994 ай бұрын
Absolutely the best KZbin video on this motor
@EMOElectric4 ай бұрын
Glad you found it helpful!
@Conks01Ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more! Superb video and certainly the best on YT. Even better than ePropulsion's tutorial vids!
@kari534 ай бұрын
Loving this unit. What are we looking at for the amount of charge cycles that consumers can expect until end of life? Also, warranty is full replacement? Thinking for batteries and speed controller or shaft leaks into the motor.
@EMOElectric4 ай бұрын
Most users will need to replace their electric outboard batteries due to time, not charge cycles. We expect a battery life on the eLite of about 7-10 years if it is properly cared for. Each warranty claim is different, but given that the eLite has relatively few serviceable parts, we expect full replacements to be more common than with the Spirit.
@surgprep14 ай бұрын
Good stuff thank you !
@dalesails4 ай бұрын
I need a 20 inch shaft. It sounded like the eLite will not work for that length. What is maxium measurement from top of transom to bottom of boat?
@EMOElectric4 ай бұрын
Shaft measurements are slightly different for most electric outboards compared to combustion outboards. The highest transom the eLite can accommodate is about 15.5 inches. Please take a look at this guide from ePropulsion. At its longest setting, the eLite has the same shaft length as the Spirit 1.0 Plus extra short. You would likely need the Spirit 1.0 Plus short shaft. www.epropulsion.com/post/measure-electric-outboard-shaft-length/
@scottioiodo4 ай бұрын
is the battery replaceable?
@EMOElectric4 ай бұрын
Hi- the battery is not replaceable.
@BrookStockton4 ай бұрын
@@EMOElectricso unit has to be thrown away when batteries are end of life?
@webbswonderful4 ай бұрын
@@BrookStockton The same is true of most electric outboards; the batteries need to be disposed of. I have just had to dispose of two batteries for a Torqeedo after 10 years.
@ADCCISELNIK5 ай бұрын
Thanx a lot for this video! I bought an eP few weeks ago and this video is really helpful to get a quick and very valuable hits to it.
@EMOElectric5 ай бұрын
Glad that you found it helpful! Enjoy the motor!
@ADCCISELNIK5 ай бұрын
@@EMOElectric I will 🙂
@francescovallone75375 ай бұрын
Grazie, un video Fantastico, un saluto dalla Sicilia