That's fantastic Bill! Found it at 5.19!

@@classicsailor6762 Hi and thanks for the reply! I'm trying to get back into the game (of knotting) and wonder if there is some way I might communicate with Des about taking a foto of the fob so I can find my way back into the fold, as it were. At my age to tye it again would be a Mt. Everest level accomplishment for me! I used to belong to the IGKT back in the 80's, and am thinking about submitting an application to membership again. Many thanks for any help, Bill

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Page 647 junk1 (T) = n 1 2 Inf. 2a rubbish generally. 2b nonsense: the play was absolute junk. 3 Sl. any narcotic drug, esp. heroin. ▪ vb 4 (tr) to discard as junk. [C15: jonke old useless rope] junk2 = n a sailing vessel used in Chinese waters and characterized by a very high poop, flat bottom, and square sails supported by battens. [C17: from Port. junco, from Javanese jon]

They draw just three feet - so they are ideal for most European canals. Several have, I think, gone to the Med, but you could find more via the very good owners' assoc' page: westerly-owners.co.uk/

I am also interested to know! That's a very unusual way to set a square sail on a boat like this

That would be Dan...

I actually wish there were more modern examples so comparison could be made. Really the racing scene drove innovation in production boats through most of the last century, and the spinnaker sort of wiped the square sail out of existance, ironically I don't think it was because it was necessarily better, its a totally different type of sail . Earlier on it was commonplace for all gaff rigged ocean going yachts to have a square sail that would be used on downwind passages, square sails were very stable and powerful in tradewind conditions, the yard spreading the head of the sail kept it nice and controlled, you could trim it easily with braces leading aft, and you wouldn't have to gybe any booms over going downwind in a bigger sea, just small bracing adjustments and sheets. Square sails were generally not made super light like spinnakers, as they were considered a work horse for almost all weather. typically they were the same weight of cloth as the mainsail. Spinnaker is much better for flat water and light wind, unquestionably. But a square sail is more stable and controlled in a seaway, less dangerous than a huge nylon sym spin deflating with a roll of the boat off a wave and inflating in big gusts, and then theres gybing a spinnaker in a seaway. Really it is illogical that square sails arent still common on offshore cruising yachts.

@@squarerigapprentice Thank you for such an informative response - I'm wondering what you think of the twin masts as an option as in the link supplied - do you think the design would work with a few tweaks as a trimaran? kzbin.info/www/bejne/mGnMnGWOgKZ5rJI&ab_channel=TalonMikeVideos

@@squarerigapprentice Eh I suppose you're right. I will be perfectly honest when I say the very idea of flying a spinnaker makes me uncomfortable. They just look unstable, and I've seen way too many vids of spinnaker wipeouts lol. And yeah I do think the fact all modern boats try to be raceboats is rather lame, when it gets to the point people start seriously suggesting putting foils on cruisers you know it's gotten to the point of illogical ridiculousness.

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@@gordonchew281 Yeah sorry thanks for correcting me

In a world where energy is in short supply and increasingly expensive coastal and cross channel trading by sailing barge can makes a lot of sense.

What do you mean by allied skills? The skills needed to tie knots and make rope?

@@barnabyvonrudal1 Tool making, sail repair, rope manufacture, learning about the types of tools and implements and how they have been made

What? a sailor's slingshot? I want to see one/use one!!

Why? What would happen?

Did you make any rope?