thanks for the comment. That is a good point. However, this helmet is so lightweight and ventilated, I don't think it's necessary to remove the chin bar during a ride. The only reason you would do this, most likely, would be on a long climb, right? Say 1/2 hour. Anything less, probably not worth it. But, if you are going to have to store the chin bar somewhere, most likely in your pack? So, you could take off the helmet to remove the chin bar as you have to remove your pack to store it. You get some fresh air to your head anyway taking off the entire lid while fumbling with storing it in your pack. But short answer is that is is definitely easy to take off the chin bar while on your head but not as easy to put back on. But if you regroup at the top of a climb, you'll take off your lid to put the chin bar back on for the descent. hope that helps

I'm 56 which appears to be mid range of medium. you have the turnbuckle to tighhten down, hope that helps.

Its a great helmet, just uncomfortable with stock liner imho. That's the major impetus, don't need a sore head after a ride. Yes you will hurt when you fall but hopefully just a tad less now

I love it with my alternate liner in video 2

you're like that dude in the gas station in the movie No country for old men. You don't know what you are talking about. Mips is a different tech and often manufacturers don't want to pay for that so they create their own such as in this lid, turbine tech. Do you think turbine tech is superior to MIPS for rotational release in a crash, you chooose your preference. There are pluses and minuses. I've showed you a Leatt thick plush liner with turbine tech in their previous model in the first video. So clearly, the turbine tech can function with a thicker liner but like I said, you have no idea what you are talking about. I've made the helmet better. If you can't handle that, move on.

@@lonestarmtb Your reply is a simple jack deflection. This video should have been titled "don't do this unless you want a TBI.

Do you talk that way to people in real life? Or only on the internet?

@@wematanye533 I'd surely say it to you. Don't be triggered. The facts remain, if you defend this or do this to a helmet you are acting like a simple jack. When you hit your head wearing this you'll be a simple jack. Don't be a nerd.

If you'd talk to me like that in RL you better took note from this vid and upgraded your helmet with some thick a** liners 👊🏼💥

100% agree. This helmet is a great cool helmet for Texas. The thin liner is for this exact reason. A little bit more head comfort and possible protection doesn't really affect this cooling, maybe my head shape but 2 hours in it before hurt but now can ride it all day long. Thanks for the comment

You bet!

I agree with your findings. I'm in your boat with noggin sizing and with the better liner I have no issues. The turnbuckle work nicely to snug that cush liner.

I am wondering whether to buy the Bell 3r super or the leatt enduro 4.0, which one would you recommend?

Nice! I love it now. FF helmets can be a bear in the heat. But this one is a go to. Mind you I don't know what happens to it in a crash

I think most same size liners should work. But thickness might depend on how close you are to the upper limit of the size chart. I had plenty of "expansion" room on the inside on a medium. That's why a turnbuckle adjust is key for fit.

I've ridden the Bell super 3r for a long while. Super light and had done a fairly good job in its duties. Bell makes good stuff. I think the super DH looks similar. This Leatt lid is light and breathable for sure. I have no doubt they put that baby thin liner in there to make sure its even cooler for its users. So I think it may be cooler than the Bell. But....We can only rely on the claimed protection rating verbage to determine which helmet would be the best protection in a mishap. I believe the Bell super DH has mips so that may be better option for DH riding. Mips is the real deal for slip plane rotation. These turbines are not the same. They may absorb slight vibrations-ish. Between these little "turbines" and the stock liner, this helmet is definitely a trail helmet. With better liner, its good for enduro and other full face riding.

@@lonestarmtb Thanks again for the info, I really appreciate it. I hear what your saying about the Bell probably being a safer helmet for DH. I'm actually planning to use it primarily for skateboarding (a new sport for me), An ASTM rated helmet is highly recommended for skateboarding, which both helmets have. Both are out of stock, so I'll probably purchase which ever one becomes available first. Take care.

I haven't and I use it twice a week. I'm a fan of the turnbuckle and definitely needed with a half shell. you should call leatt and get their input on your tb

Hey, maybe it's late, after some time of using the helmet, it heappend to me more then one time, most of the times I wait a bit and somehow it will fix itself, in rest even tho you may think it can brake, just put some good force into it. Worst it happend to me I had to remove the chin to get it off.

you have a price diff for sure. The new version carries the DH rating. I believe this is due to a larger frame similar to their dbx 4.0 DH rated lid. I believe the 3.0 enduro is lighter but has more padding on the interior but smaller shell. So you have the opposite situation for the 4.0 enduro. The 4.0 comes with a softer set of chin bar pads to help with the fit.

@@epiphgd4302 I think with the larger skull of the 4.0 design, there is a greater distance of eps foam from the head to shell. They have obtained the DH rating on the 4.0 so probably due to that design change (as they have acheived with their other dh lids) as well as the chin bar attachement method.

@@epiphgd4302 I like the design. Yes, certainly larger but its not heavy so when you have it on, it makes zero diff

Fits great with different liner. See description for link to part 2. otherwise, the stock liner wasn't thick enough to prevent skull from hurting against the hard styro after a day on the bike. Hot spot...no, there is no wifi, bluetooth or any connectivity of any kind with this helmet.

@@lonestarmtb 😂 @wifi/Bluetooth comment.. thanks for the reply.. I’m going to purchase one of these blind since I won’t be able to try it on before purchasing. So I just checking if there was any fit issues beside the thin liners..

@@MrCjrodriguez no worries, I'm a medium with 22 1/4 ish. The turnbuckle allows you to adjust the fit so the size range is bigger and the 2 soft/firm pads to adjust fit for chinbar

nice, it is a nice helmet!, check out part 2 here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/omGYcpalYqyJaMk

the size range is bigger because you have the adjustable turnbuckle. I found it to be spot on size.

Thanks for watching and the comment. I think for some head shapes (such as yours) you may have an air gap in the back. I feel though either way, if you crash land on the back of the lid, that would be the bigger concern. Maybe no liner in the back is a good thing for ventilation, like you said, but how about some of those turbines in the back then. Your head will definitely hit that inside back hard if you land backwards. Most helmet are fantastic "feeling" until you eat sheit and no review tells you what happens in a crash. I want to start a channel where I smash helmets to show what happens. 2nd part review here:kzbin.info/www/bejne/omGYcpalYqyJaMk

no problem, thanks for watching, 2nd part here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/omGYcpalYqyJaMk

@@lonestarmtb thanks man

2nd part review here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/omGYcpalYqyJaMk

I've had no issue with fogging with either one. Sweat mitigation is very good on both as well. I don't think one is better than the other in that respect. My previous brand name goggle (won't mention name) was terrible with sweat streaks inside the lens. I don't have that problem with either of these. I would say the Leatt is tighter on the nose a bit.

thanks, Ill post the mod video soon

Part 2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/omGYcpalYqyJaMk

Hi Nancy, Sorry you didn't like the video. There wasn't much information about this lid upon release so I thought I'd share some, Thanks for watching.

@@lonestarmtb I disagree, I thought the vide was good, I had no idea about the lining. It was a deal breaker for me. Thanks!

my part 2 review where I swapped the liner is here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/omGYcpalYqyJaMk

Stay tuned, I'm making a modification video. My friend has a Smith Mainline helmet but he has to take it off on the climbs. I think this Leatt helmet you could leave on but this is probably due to lack of padding inside which increases ventilation. I think the DH rating is a bit misleading because, while this helmet may be as structurally strong as the Mainline, it is going to hurt even more if you crash. So the two aren't comparable but both had DH rating. No review mentions this. Some DH rated helmets feel great but blow apart when you crash. I think there is a gap between testing helmets and real world situations.....

Truly disappointing. I was also looking to buy one to replace my Bell Super DH, but I see this one would have the same issues. I don't get how manufacturers can't come up with a better system for attaching the liner. The super DH has several small pads, which attach separately and I've already lost half of them, since you can't really take them out many times for washing. After the second wash they don't attach properly on those tiny pads, which in turn come off pretty easy, because they're glued to the helmet with some simple double-sided tape. I also have the forehead pad looking like sh*t already. Not to mention the creaking. The 100% Status I had was much more comfortable and the liner was one whole piece. The obvious downside was weight and ventilation. I kind of think the TLD Stage would be one of the best choices, sacrificing the removable chinbar. I don't really take it off anyway.

It seems Each manufacturer is making their own "Mips" system . For that, I can see how they don't want the liner completely secured to the helmet as they want rotation. My guess is that to satisfy the rotational accomplishment with the turbine system, they want your head to slide around the inside and maybe want your head contacting the turbines. But having said that, the liner in the dbx 4.0 is super plush and same system and rating. If I was working for Leatt, I would suggest to them to make the actual liner out of the turbines and then tab secure (similar to chin pad attachment) that inside the helmet. Or fill the liner with the squishy turbine material - boom!. It would accomplish the same thing. Regarding the Stage, it probably is the best helmet until you crash it. Upon impact, they polycrylite material of the chin bar may blow apart into sharp pieces and could possibly lacerate your face or take out your eye. So if you don't crash, its perfect.

​@@lonestarmtb Doh, that's a bad option then. Thanks for the video, there isn't much information about that helmet yet.

my friends have the proframe, nice lighweight lid. But yes, helmets should have and come with multiple pad options. not every head is the same and how about a spare so you can wash one. Some companies do this. Apparently not Leatt. But check out my part 2, where I've remedied the problem. kzbin.info/www/bejne/omGYcpalYqyJaMk

Yes, it is accurate. The increased variation in size is due is because it has a turnbuckle which you can adjust to fit.

@@lonestarmtb Thanks man! appreciate it.

No problem, It's a nice lid, I'm modifying the inside so I'll post up the video of that soon probably around Shred-thirty. Thx for watching.

kzbin.info/www/bejne/omGYcpalYqyJaMk

this is a medium, Half shell weighs 500 grams, chinbar 350. +/- 3 grams Hope this helps

oh yah

Well if you currently have both bikes, you have 2 of the top bikes out there and I would assume a big smile on your face. Yeti and YT are great bikes. The Yeti is lighter (not sure which frame you have) and maybe more playful as compared to the Capra. If you have to get rid of one, you might flip a coin. But Look at other factors, like the year model. 2018 Capra? That is a new design as compared to 2017. Keep the newer one or best kept one. How was the maintenance on the pivots, switch infinity? Where do you ride mostly? downhill, parks? Both outstanding rides. Keep Both.

currently have older capra al .. planning to buy 2019 sb6(w/c is available) or wait next year for capra cf pro.

the Capra is a big bike. i sized up too which makes it bigger for me. the sizing is different than prior years which threw me off. This bike requires more power input both in control and drive. In this aspect, I like the extra workout as I enjoy more workload than most. So plan on that if you ride flat or non-downhill style trails. If you F up on a jump or while visiting sketchtown there is more to rely on with the Capra. In this aspect, it allowed me to ride with an injury. Also,when I ride my other bike, which is lighter and more nimble, I'm faster on that as a result of "training" on the Capra. One thing I learned is to slack out the front fork to drop the front end to allow better cornering for those twisty trails. In summary, it could do it all but plan on extra watts. If you live near the mountains with bigger dh, then factor that in as well. I did test the tires in softer mush dirt trail and it stuck like glue.

How did you do in the race? Would you have done better with a small travel bike ( like the jeffsy)?

yes, too big of a big for that course. Capra is great for sketchy big drops and rocks and big jumps. Anything else, you will be slower than a lighter quicker bike

How did you do in the race?

the Capra is a big bike. i sized up too which makes it bigger for me, large. The sizing is different than prior years which threw me off. This bike requires more power input both in control and drive. In this aspect, I like the extra workout as I enjoy more workload than most. So plan on that if you ride flat or non-downhill style trails. If you F up on a jump or while visiting sketchtown there is more to rely on with the Capra. In this aspect, it allowed me to ride with an injury. Also,when I ride my other bike, which is lighter and more nimble, I'm faster on that as a result of "training" on the Capra. One thing I learned is to slack out the front fork to drop the front end to allow better cornering for those twisty trails. In summary, it could do it all but plan on extra watts. If you live near the mountains with bigger dh, then factor that in as well. I did test the tires in softer mush dirt trail and it stuck like glue. I address that tire issue I had in my arkansa enduro video if you haven't seen it. Capra sizing changed for 2018, mine is large b ut I could probably ride a medium and you could probably ride a large. It is preference i think, smaller will yield more control but longer will be more stable.

jett5100 wow, thank you for the reply my man. This definitely gives me some more insite

Go to your LBS and find a bike that fits you, then go online and check the geometry. Then go on YT and choose the bike with the closest geometry to the one you sat on. As for the model, I would go for whatever jeffsy has a rockshox pike. The capra will eat potential jumps and roots that you'd be able to have fun on with the jeffsy.

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yes, it is a big gun fo sho. although it really helped riding with an injury and it can handle large jumps. Mountain bound it will go on occasion, although Texas is getting a lift bike park soon, spider mountain.

similiar. But after that video, I've been running the minions on those same rims. . 2.6 and 2.5. No more issues.