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@miguellucas838
@miguellucas838 6 күн бұрын
great!
@AlwaysknowsMe
@AlwaysknowsMe 22 күн бұрын
Hiii In my 60s, female Met a beautiful man i absolutely adore. After a year knowing and loving him very infrequently, and never enough for me, in my prayers i realuzed he was undiagnosed autist. We became closer, and i let go of misunderstood, misplaced hurt. He loves me. I receive it on his terms with thanksgiving, and am relizing how many if my friends are undiagnosed. Diagnosis is a social tool not an illness. Everyone wants Love that requires Truth. The Truth sets us free. Prayer elevates us. It heals. I. Tell him, dont change anything. You are Perfect. And i try not to talk to him or be with him too much. Thats the hard part for me. But its best. His name is Bill. I thank God fir him.🌿🎆👻
@simongilchrist3329
@simongilchrist3329 23 күн бұрын
That’s interesting. As a person with ADHD I’ve often wondered about the condition and if it was merely a defect or if it had some value over the ages. There certainly are some advantages or, at least some value to it. ADHD sufferers are typically spontaneous, creative, and tend to be good with their hands (in short bursts). Also, in combat, when the adrenaline spikes, we tend to be all focus and generally more at ease than others. The only two moments of calm and clarity I have ever experienced have both been in highly charged situations. In modern society its usefulness is largely obsolete, I think, unless you’re in the arts. I run a hobby farm so ADHD and I get along ok.
@iansowden8049
@iansowden8049 24 күн бұрын
Very Stimulating. However I noticed that the subject crept in of how treatment funded increasingly effects available treatments and even attempts to take the question of diagnosis out of clinicians to managers, commertial lobbying, and god forbid software and insurance companies. Sad
@debbielondon1809
@debbielondon1809 26 күн бұрын
SOME of this is INTELLIGENT TWADDLE.! That takes no account for the fact that we are trying to measure the unmeasurable. QUIET VOICES, SEEMING REASON, convinces us that this is SCIENCE. Yet perhaps we should go back to appreciating that the world is filled with diverse people with varying strengths. And wake up to the fact THAT OUR EDUCATION SYSTEM IS UNNATURAL for EVERYONE? And that these categories have been grabbed hold of by the population and professionals in order to pathologize those for whom the difficulties are exaggerated.
@kencook7580
@kencook7580 Ай бұрын
It is apparent from the comments on this channel that this person has an insufficient knowledge of the subject. It is fine lecturing statistics, but needs to actually interact with autistic children. The view on empathy is ignorant at best. As a lay person, sitting back and observing my six year old granddaughter diagnosed with severe autism i can honestly say she has a misunderstanding of the thought process of others, but has an astute awarness of others pain and adversity.
@martinelongum2439
@martinelongum2439 Ай бұрын
Gosh ! Science ? May we see the questions ? Bill Gates done well if you think ogf influence and power - but wise ?!!!
@kimberlyperron9291
@kimberlyperron9291 Ай бұрын
We can’t start encouraging sexe changes to avoid reproduction, in order to slow down evolution. We need to bring awareness to the strengths of autism so these individuals can accept themselves as they are. There’s too much talk about the negative side effects of autism and this is detrimental to learning about it’s advantages. They want to belong! They WANT to socialize! But first, society needs to stop discrimination against them! We need to bring awareness to the strengths of autism because there’s too many false information spreading on social media. They are the most intelligent and empathetic people you will ever meet! People are cruel and judgmental. This is why most of them isolate. Yes, some of them struggle with mathematics. But this is because most of them are visual learners. We need to change the way we teach in the classrooms! Therefore many of these individuals have more of an interest towards science because they enjoy the ‘facts’. This is why many of them become researchers, doctors, science experts and humanitarians. WE NEED THEM!! Happy world autism awareness day! It’s time to speak out about the advantages of having autism!! Let’s hope we start soon! The more we show acceptance, the less they will isolate!!!!💙🧩
@karolinaska6836
@karolinaska6836 Ай бұрын
I'm on the happy to be solitary side of autism, and that one thing made the first psychiatrist misdiagnose me with avoidant personality disorder! Less than a year later, I saw an actual expert specializing in ASD in women and got the correct diagnosis of level 1 autism. So glad to hear here the acknowledgement that there's both "kinds" of autistic people.
@karolinaska6836
@karolinaska6836 Ай бұрын
I was dx at age 41. I don't understand the concept of gender spectrum. However, I absolutely see it in terms of race and ethnicity, and I've always selected "other" for my race bc "white" doesn't describe my experience as a child immigrant, non native English speaker, non Anglo-Protestant. The many assumptions about white people in the US are based on conflating those categories. The majority of my friends (yes, I've had friends along the way) have been fellow immigrants or otherwise racial/language minorities. Including my Latino husband. Yet I'm told I don't get a say in how I identify racially in spite of obvious cultural influences on race and how immigration and intermarriage can blur those lines. Meanwhile, my sex I'm told doesn't determine my gender, and my autistic black or white (binary!) brain is supposed to make sense of it, especially hearing many fellow autistics are gender non-conforming in some way. I just can't. 😳
@karolinaska6836
@karolinaska6836 Ай бұрын
You can't really say autism is increasing if we simply didn't know about the lower needs support autistic people. We're just more aware of it in more people.
@matdyde
@matdyde Ай бұрын
You neurotypical doctors are very arrogant, its no suprise you find it hard to help us. As if we focus on the detail whilst you lot see the big picture. haha. as if you can see the big picture. youre pictures are tiny. titchy. minscule. because you tend ot be adaptive in such a lazy way that you cannot even see you are likely to kill the world with that thinking that you reckon you see a big picture. You wallies. If you focus on the detail, you then can see the big picture, you dummies. from an annoyed autistic man who certainly thinks he is superior to the flow of your culture.
@karolinaska6836
@karolinaska6836 2 ай бұрын
This is so surreal. I immigrated to the US as a child. I wasn't dx until age 41. All my life I assumed my differences were culturally based bc I didn't know other people from my home country outside my family, who sheltered me a lot. I shared openly that I was Polish, and I guess others figured my quirks were due to culture. I've always gravitated to "outsiders" but the flip side of that is that I've never really felt like I belonged. I had a decades long special interest in world religions and desperately tried to fit in my considering conversion to various faith traditions. I finally found my tribe in the nuclear family I created: my husband and our two children whom we homeschool.
@existenciaintegrativa
@existenciaintegrativa 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for a clarification on an issue I could not find scientific research. I wonder if the gifted children (a brain that is highly wired) could be a response to prenatal stress when macro and micronutrients are available for nourishing the neurodevelopment in the womb of a stressful mother. Alternatively, in the womb of a mother that did not wish to be a mother, that is, an environment in the womb full of 'negative' biochemicals to the success of life... Then, as a response to survive, the fetal becoming a highly connected brain for dealing with complexity of risks and opportunities for survival...
@ZeonGenesis
@ZeonGenesis 2 ай бұрын
The reason he finds fewer female autists is because autism has been too defined on stereotypical male personality traits and interests, such as the theory of autism being the extreme male brain, not taking socialization into account. Females tend to internalize a lot more while males tend to externalize. I think they're missing out on many mostly autistic females but also males who have hyper-empathy rather than hypo-empathy, because those who have a harder time reading facial expressions and mentalizing what other people are thinking would stick more out of the crowd while the hyper-empathetic crowd become high-masking and so blend in more easily and are more likely diagnosed later in life. Hopefully the understanding of how autism can be a mixture of either hyper- or hypo-sensitivity in whatever area is on the rise, rather than autism being a linear binary.
@ZeonGenesis
@ZeonGenesis 2 ай бұрын
The brain thing is (no pun intended) mind blowing. I was just as late as yesterday wondering how come I've only run into really asperger's people making sound and astute psychological observations and analyses that avoided personal bias and ego more so than I've ever seen NTs be capable of.. so I was thinking, what if the prefrontal cortex in asperger's people is stronger than in the neurotypical population, effectively overriding the amygdala more often in comparison? Leading to more objective and logical analyses with less occurrence of denial and personal emotional blind spots. And lo and behold, Baron-Cohen practically confirms the hypothesis! Wow! This explains so much. (Social, emotional and psychological intelligence in asperger's is also very rarely acknowledged compared to more stereotypical spatial, mathematical, etc., intelligence, which is a pity)
@MajSolo
@MajSolo 2 ай бұрын
observated cases are increasing cause we are more observant. What you think???
@matthew3396
@matthew3396 2 ай бұрын
Ironically, the sibilance is extremely harsh in this audio recording.
@alanparmenter
@alanparmenter 2 ай бұрын
29:15 Fake Einstein quote about fish and trees
@heidenburg5445
@heidenburg5445 3 ай бұрын
Too many old white men in that room to take them seriously. White men come up with all sorts of mental illnesses to make themselves feel like they are the normal ones. Gretha thunburg has autimsm so you dont take her seriously. Its mostly white men driving around in big pickup trucks that burn through the earth quick enough.
@clarelewis7532
@clarelewis7532 3 ай бұрын
This is hugely interesting.. I am in the Middle of doing a Special Needs degree and I’ve read a lot of Professor Simon Baron Cohen’s journals., Especially in Autism, Theory of Mind .. and it is inspiring to see him on speaking in this lecture. I am a huge fan of his work .
@meeerdock
@meeerdock 3 ай бұрын
That S is kinda irritatating
@liliumsol5419
@liliumsol5419 3 ай бұрын
Someone happens to know the study / data reference he is referring to starting from min 38? Would help me a lot!
@kimberlyperron9291
@kimberlyperron9291 3 ай бұрын
Some people with autism are also turning to alcohol consumption to socialize and cannabis to temporarily soothe their anxiety. But the long lasting progress with socialization and anxiety would be to take a humanitarian approach and learn about transcendence. It starts with healing past trauma, doing mantra, sitting in stillness and following a spiritual guide, as a guru or psychologist. -Kimzie
@AllYourMemeAreBelongToUs
@AllYourMemeAreBelongToUs 3 ай бұрын
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@realityisnotwhatyouthinkitis
@realityisnotwhatyouthinkitis 3 ай бұрын
Autism is not a disease I don't know why CDC has anything to do with it
@world_still_spins
@world_still_spins 2 ай бұрын
Its the control part of the cdc.
@realityisnotwhatyouthinkitis
@realityisnotwhatyouthinkitis 2 ай бұрын
@@world_still_spins there's people in my walls
@world_still_spins
@world_still_spins 2 ай бұрын
​@@realityisnotwhatyouthinkitis Do they pay rent?
@realityisnotwhatyouthinkitis
@realityisnotwhatyouthinkitis 2 ай бұрын
@@world_still_spins yea, they are pretty chill roommates. Except they like to scream mean things at me sometimes
@terriem3922
@terriem3922 3 ай бұрын
There is a difference between having empathy and being able to communicate empathy to other people, which autistic people may have difficulty with. Also, Temple Grandin had tons of empathy for cows and expressed it in changing cow environments.
@HeliNoir
@HeliNoir 3 ай бұрын
59:20 "individuals high empathizers and low in systematizing" This is what I suspect my sister would place in. Her empathy is probably higher than mine and she steers away from technology, panicking when she has to do something with the computer. Low in systematizing as her room is always a mess (in my perspective) but it's still a systematic mess for her. We're both in the Autism Spectrum and both high empathy but she tends to have more needs to be IN a social setting while she pushes me to do the socializing for her while I have less desire in organizing any social interaction but can perform in a social gathering. For autistics like us who are probably in that oddball category, we kind of gave up going to clinics and therapists because the "professionals" we've come across always had "lesser" empathy and we were more cognizant of our issues that sometimes we end up giving them and other people a therapy session. We can easily understand what people go through and how they feel but have trouble identifying what we're feeling and other people understanding US. And because we have that high empathy, we have built relationships in a wider range that we're thankfully able to find and get the help we need, most of the time. Personally, I had an aversion to math as I never had a good teacher but I've always excelled in the arts and sciences. Although I'm still not good at math, I've been in Accounting for almost a decade now because I find the systematizing aspect of accounting somewhat makes up for that weakness I have. So now, I do wonder where I would be in that chart. I've experienced more meltdowns in my adult life than I ever had therefore only now discovering myself being autistic. I used to be quite social but with all the demands thrown at me, I always look forward to being left alone to recharge but my battery isn't being fully recovered for years now. Now that my depression and anxiety has worsened, I think it would be nice to be included in that research study.
@rachelheath1208
@rachelheath1208 2 ай бұрын
I am seeing this u-tube video today… it was posted seven years ago! thank you for your comment, Your eloquently expressed view, resonates with me. ( i am in my early 50s mother of three.) I’m inclined to believe… I would be in that part of the spectrum too. And would be interested in seeking further about this. (A male family member, I have in my immediate family has been diagnosis already on the spectrum….late diagnosis in his 40’s)
@MaryKDayPetrano
@MaryKDayPetrano 3 ай бұрын
If you want to find a group of Neurotypical empathizers to study and test, I would siuggest you should look in the United States at licensed lawyers and judges. In around 1938, the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure were created whereby the Neurotypical emphathisizers took over the court systems and threw out the "encyclopedic" literal Autistic people, and since around 1948, created Bar Examiners who have used testing and "fitness" screening to eliminate Autistic types and cull Neurotypical emphathisizer types so the latter were the only ones who got licensed for decades. I know it was only in 2015 that the first Autistic person became a licensed lawyer with the California State Bar and 2019 with the Florida Bar. So, if you're looking for a super-testable group on the Emphasizer extreme of the social brain, look there and test them. I would even say you can probably compare them to your mathematics-engineering-scientists group at the Systematizer extreme. Another thing is, this culled group of U.S licensed lawyers and judges with a hyper-social Emphathisizer brain, they massively cluster in undergrad English and Political Science majors, and they freak out if they are confronted with or required to understand or write about anything scientific or say, a finance major's mathematics calculations, for example.
@MaryKDayPetrano
@MaryKDayPetrano 3 ай бұрын
Regarding the question about whether the way Autism risk genes are scattered over all of the chromosomes might mean Autism is very old, and your answer referring to Epigenetics, I think it's more complicated that that. I'm autistic and that's what I think. First of all, one of the earliest Autism-linked genes was found as far back as the chromosome 2 fusion in the primate-human lineage; and second, when you start talking about gene expression, you have to untangle Epigenetics from the way Neanderthal transcription factors are continuuing to regulate genes in the modern human genome, including apparently some of them (e.g. FOXP2) in the gene deserts. So, is it Neanderthal transcription factors that's causing Autistic gene expression (e.g., Geschwind's research that shows a gene expression gradient in Autistic brains from front to back visual areas -- mimicking the Neanderthak brain), or is it more today's World Epigentic factors ? Or, both ? And, if both, in what proportions and locations in the brain for each ?
@MaryKDayPetrano
@MaryKDayPetrano 3 ай бұрын
About Bill Gates, he can't deny he has Autism when he was memorizing every single one of his employees' license plates to keep track of them.
@MaryKDayPetrano
@MaryKDayPetrano 3 ай бұрын
I think this is excellent. But, I'm having a problem fitting your E-S Model into (1.) Autistic people using bottom-up information processing from raw sensory data like a look-up table versus Neurotypical people using a top-down Bayesian probabillity algorythm; and (2.) Autistic people using a different version of language than Neurotypical people. I don't think you can say, in light of these things, that Autistic versus Neurotypical traits are actually on a spectrum; instead there is a gap between the two caused by a different and evolutionary information processing type. Your Model needs to account for this.
@divinetrouble66
@divinetrouble66 3 ай бұрын
Shout out to all autistic people who don't have exemplary skills! We are just as valuable.
@SullenTwilight
@SullenTwilight 3 ай бұрын
To answer the question at the end, we exist and we are NOT fine. The empathy is so high we mask and people please our entire lives and go undiagnosed and then run ourselves into the ground and burnout or go insane.
@gilltim5711
@gilltim5711 3 ай бұрын
Yes, an evolutionary factor, ......called vaccines. Did you know there is NO autism amongst the Amish? They are, in fact, the control group in this horrible social experiment by big pharma. No vaccines, no autism.
@animanoir
@animanoir 3 ай бұрын
We're the evolution of the humans species.
@world_still_spins
@world_still_spins 2 ай бұрын
A branch within many human branches. One being Homo-Autisimagnus. I'm coining the term now for future history books. (Spelled incorrectly on purpose).
@dougT22
@dougT22 4 ай бұрын
Interesting take. Nice to get a sense of what is going on in academic society in the area of emotions.
@theautisticpage
@theautisticpage 4 ай бұрын
Had NOTHING to do with evolution. This was the progression of the field.
@theautisticpage
@theautisticpage 4 ай бұрын
Note how pius he is. He never mentions or considers the input of autistics. The "academics" think they know more than the people who are autistic. This man is despised by many in the autistic community.
@carolynsuedickens
@carolynsuedickens 3 ай бұрын
He is creepy.
@vlander1992able
@vlander1992able 4 ай бұрын
I thought the eyes looked suspicious instead of dispirited, I wonder if I'm autistic?
@thespearofthor9629
@thespearofthor9629 4 ай бұрын
I got very curious about the group that would be the opposite of autism, with high empathy and low system skills. I think he was too dismissive of that (although he did say it needed more research). I know a few people who I can see being on that spectrum and their lack of systemic understanding certainly is a problem for them, and combined with the extreme empathy it makes things chaotic and volatile for them. I would imagine it can be difficult if you empathize so strongly, but maybe can't separate yourself out from it because of that for example. Also it's very typical that this hasn't been looked into given that empathy has been considered a more female trait, since we know how neglected medical research on women has been throughout the years. It's fascinating to think there are so many people out there with this thing that doesn't even have a name. At least the ones I know of have indeed sought help, but even though they appear to have something they walk away undiagnosed or get a wrong one, it will require somene to look for this and name it before they can..
@gregorybabbitt2082
@gregorybabbitt2082 4 ай бұрын
Regarding the orthogonal assumption of the E-S scale....many aspies will systematize their ability to interact with others (i.e. masking) to a degree that they are often pretty good at 1:1 or 1:>1 interactions (i.e. presenting to an audience). It is the >1:>1 interactions where we are sometimes most challenged. So the E-S scale should be modified to address this point. As women are probably under diagnosed because of the increased societal pressure/mandate to mask, you will probably find that the gender difference is far less than implied by the results presented here.
@leversandpulleys9274
@leversandpulleys9274 4 ай бұрын
My dog tells me, "Skip this video, the concretization of emotions and its particularization on biological behaviors serves nothing but scientific sophistication. God will not be found here. Continue your notes and your books, this is intellectual narcissism in the guise of a bottomless Darwinian pit."
@JamieHumeCreative
@JamieHumeCreative 4 ай бұрын
Regarding the evolutionary theory and engineering. One, engineering are only one part if the Autustic community. Two, it's statustically true that when women Prosper in terms of health and well being, birth rates go down as child mortality goes down. We are not needing to have large families when survival rates are high. Three, evolutiinary changes are , generally, generational. So, we would be looking at how successful our lineages are, not how many people are walking the, earth. The two are not mutually exclysive and humans are able to assess this especially women. . If women has more influence, there would be lless war and lower reproductive rates. Therefore, less premature death by violence. A young man who dues un battle, gas little chance to pass ô. His families genetics. There's mire,than one,way to approach such issues.
@joakinzz
@joakinzz 4 ай бұрын
In regards to the first question, selection is not only about reproduction, is not even about benefiting the organism: is about benefiting the genes, thus cancer, dementia, psycopathy, etc. The reason a certain trait is selected in a niche might be not clear from a reproductive point of view but for example by a longetivity or death rate measure. The reason a certain gene wins are always very complex and are related with how, when and where the fenotype appears (that s how "bad" genes can survive in the pool if they for ex they are expresed in a disfunctional fenotype for the organism but after the reproductive age). Also, are u saying my wife is dead?
@marthamurphy7940
@marthamurphy7940 4 ай бұрын
Fascinating! Prof. Baron-Cohen's observations fit me very well.
@dramatriangle
@dramatriangle 5 ай бұрын
Excellent presentation! I appreciate the variety of information and the sensitivity with which you presented it. The variation in tone of your voice, your timbre and accent, the pace at which you presented, all top notch. I appreciate how you explain a practical application of each statistical finding within the presentation.
@neige4221
@neige4221 5 ай бұрын
I just finished reading a book by a famous autistic person by the name of Temple Grandin. She is an example of why autism doesn’t need to be thought of as a handicap. She is brilliant and if you have a chance pick up one of her books, if you are interested in animals or learning more about autism because she speaks about her condition which was very informative.
@sarkyization
@sarkyization 5 ай бұрын
There is "Aspergers" which is / was used to describe highly intelligent single minded people who have low empathy and "social skills" which is naturally on the "human spectrum" then we were encouraged to conflate that with very neurologically and physically disabled people who are autistic ie <@ccine injured
@gonzaloquinolarico2859
@gonzaloquinolarico2859 5 ай бұрын
I will just think of autism as a impairment of the brain to handle multiple information fluently as well to use multiple parts for processing complex information therefore the problems In socializing, movement, speech, tone, etc their brain just process a complex action with 1 or 2 parts In reduced manner so they struggle to integrate multiple perspectives like dancing keeping posture think in body in space etc at the same time but for activities that don't require that diversity in actions like simple logic or following rules they tend to be better since there is no need to think /plan and the execute they just focus on one simple thing at a time and live with that making cooking, and other day to day activities slower since that need the multiprocessing stuff
@gonzaloquinolarico2859
@gonzaloquinolarico2859 5 ай бұрын
also as the video mentions the fact that they align and structure things in their environment is to reduce the information to handle it better with memory issues their best approach is to make it all predictable so they don't have to rely on working memory so that sad but probably true they are just disable for multiprocessing doesn't mean they can study or anything a that just requires a part of the brain a time or at least just one function, also talking and thinking are different actions so that's why they don't talk much and if so they use the same memotecnics for complex words so they can give an illusion to talk normally but is just an adaptation for the disability