I think you overlooked the importance of raising the challenge of M0. If the baseline M0 is harder than 7% of something higher may be more than 10% of something lower.
@alexliapis45315 сағат бұрын
I have a super strong suggestion to fix m+ dramatically. So the way groups are formating for the moment is only by players formating their team thus they pick mostly meta specs and also taking some time to formate. Instead we could have a solo queue, just like league, together with the current system. Just like normal dungeons. Players could be choosing keys close to their mmr and just wait for a random group to format. Way faster, will display the lack of tanks, healers etc, allow players to play ehatever they actually want. If you agree please just promote the idea so they will listen. Thank you
@Lindforce17 сағат бұрын
Raszageth was 1500 times better than ansurek on heroic. But Ansurek is 1500 times harder than raszageth on mythic.
@tommy486218 сағат бұрын
I'm checking some VODs to compare the dungeon scaling and on +12 the first boss in Rookery had 829M hp and this week it has 793M hp. That doesn't seem as big of a nerf. Scaling is nerfed but the base M0 was buffed, so it's about 5% nerf on +12. I also compared +10 first boss in Operation Floodgate. Old scaling 927M hp, New scaling 904M hp. So that is 3% nerf on weekly 10s, all people excited about weekly dungeons getting easier, bad news.
@Pastaman31419 сағат бұрын
They should just roll back the if you CC they instant recast change. That would fix 99% of the pug problems as you can carry harder as a solo player...
@ShaneshaS20 сағат бұрын
Dratty Daddy could make me a single mom any day
@domperry417520 сағат бұрын
Looks like the new annoyance is going to be a tonne of random unavoidable aoe that will cause any but the top healers to struggle and make squishy dps hate their lives.
@chiefputty21 сағат бұрын
I think that if the vault rewards for a +12 goes to a 2/6 myth item (maybe 4/6 hero end of dungeon), we have a W all around. (and change the +7 vault reward to a 3/6 hero to calm my OCD). Also, of note is that the base level for M0 has gone up 25%, which makes the 2-9 keys numerically harder than they are now, but I think with the affix changes, that will even out.
@tocashu112022 сағат бұрын
Dr. Atnos starting to look more and more like Dr. Kratos - kinda sus
@ThygorForgeglow22 сағат бұрын
It'd be really cool if they could make the trinkets from M+ at least slightly more appealing. The tank trinkets especially tend to be mediocre at best and hilariously dogshit at worst (AraKara tank trinket has a 6 second proc that reduces damage taken by 29k at 639)
@nilohermes644722 сағат бұрын
After 2k for the mount, I turned into a fulltime delver this season on my alt army. Looks like m+ is back on the menu for S2.
@Xenamos22 сағат бұрын
Blizz one of the ONLY game companies that actively goes against what the community wants almost every time then are surprised people quit the game
@Mo_Egan23 сағат бұрын
What if there was an item you could buy with vault tokens that brought a max-upgraded item to the next track, potentially limited to only m+ drops. The rng of bis items that only come from m+ and thus can only be myth track from vault is still a sore point for me.
@myersmayhem202323 сағат бұрын
As someone who doesn't play mythic raid as a second job not getting end of dungeon mythic track rewards just makes all the changes really just not matter to me 1 myth track a week in a vault is not fun gear progression and makes the season boring after a few week. Oh you are 10 Ilvls down sorry you didnt RMT myth track crafts and get good vaults. rip your alts that weren't farming myth track week 1. guess you aren't getting invited to high keys this season now gg Its not enough for me to come back for season 2 will be looking for better changes
@SuPaHsNiPeZ23 сағат бұрын
Dratnos i think you missed a critical highlight to the key floors. This is most beneficial for PUGS as people give up for the entire week once their key is bricked a couple levels. This isnt really a problem for groups, but huge for hardcore players who dont have time to form groups, but want to push. More keys will be available in group finder 1000000%
@MiiMiiOwOКүн бұрын
as someone who just does aotc raiding because my pc is so bad mythic gnarlroot and heroic raz crashed my pc, i cannot get myth track gear if i get a bad vault. great job blizz
@Jevantai420Күн бұрын
Affixes shouldn’t trigger in M+ Bosses. They didn’t in Dragonflight and they shouldnt ever. Watching my DPS run around like chickens with their heads cutoff, while I’m learning to tank, discourages alt tanking.
@mrghostmrghost6469Күн бұрын
i liked the shaved dratnos more :/
@kinglookehКүн бұрын
Really like the Moses look you've got going on.
@wigotheroxxorКүн бұрын
How does people can enter m+ at 7, i get refused to a plus 2 if I have no io on an alt, even with a 2900 io main
@astaroth1837Күн бұрын
I don't think keys not depleting at high levels affects the "floor" at all. If its too high you can still manually lower it. You just have control over that now.
@Gaffy05Күн бұрын
These are good changes. Now make more than half a tank spec feel playable and people may actually play m+.
@bilbobaggins7095Күн бұрын
Thx for the update
@lampshades5436Күн бұрын
Now just remove valorstones and lower mythic track gear in the vault to 8 or 9's =]
@LuisTorres-gw6dgКүн бұрын
As a pugger theres no way in hell I was getting invited straight into 7s even with all delves gear. Does blizzard forget io is a thing? Until my main was 2200+ was I getting invited with alts into higher bracket without pushing all other keys
@SP-vКүн бұрын
I rly dont think the difficulty is a big factor compared to that the M+ affixes and game style has grown old. Idk why they have not made a new season like Awakening or just rotate old affixes. Make it like Poe where u can get a shit key or a Good/easy key with different tactics. Like one key has infested and the other one has Storming. and so forth randomness is fun and fresh imo. Also removes the balance issues since there will be no balance to begin with.
@darkkingrayleigh8120Күн бұрын
What stupid update , no changes at all , old m+ was hard and interesting because of affixex , now days its +-20% all changes , boring boring, delves for noobs same , but seems ppl love to eat shit from Blizzard , imagine buying old dungeons with no affixes 😂 wow community 😂
@90VYDКүн бұрын
here's my cook - the increased death time penalty justifies a higher dungeon timer. why do they want to keep higher dungeon timers you ask? because then players won't be as incetivised to only bring meta specs (not talking about title range here ofc) and so bringing an off-meta class played by a knowledgeable player (that doesn't die) will be viable. to me, this justifies the death penalty increase.
@itskhroКүн бұрын
This is good stuff. Still left to see if the dungeons are just mechanical vomit, but this at least makes it not feel bad to get triple combod by shit all the time, especially when pugging on alts which was worse than ever imo in S1.
@corvanjerКүн бұрын
The best improvement they can do for s2 is to remove darkflame cleft and that stupid mine cart. Thanks for listening.
@QuetteshКүн бұрын
This is amazing, farming M+ just because I want to raid mythic will be less of a pain.
@cr1spbeatzplzКүн бұрын
Bring back corruption (and remove peril and depletion while at it, then M+ would be fun again)
@frozenwrath362Күн бұрын
HELLO DRATNOS... YYYYYAAAAAAAAARRR !
@Ghust19Күн бұрын
Now give us a possibility to get myth track gear without relying purely on vault rng, revert the cc not interrupting mobs, lower the amount of time for dinars from raid and it’ll look like a great season
@WilkzZz1Күн бұрын
What? You are GUARANTEED myth track gear from 10's and beyond. No RNG involved with the item level you get
@Ghust1923 сағат бұрын
@@WilkzZz1 from vault mate, there is no chance you can get it from the dungeon in any way possible besides that
@WilkzZz121 сағат бұрын
@@Ghust19 myth track from ONLY dungeons is crazy talk. you'd be BiS within a week
@Ghust1920 сағат бұрын
@@WilkzZz1 yes, getting the best gear from doing the highest level of content you prefer is surely crazy talk. I don't think it's too hard to distinct between having a possibility of having a chance at myth track items which btw, you can keep at heroic track and just with more upgrades, so you're bound by crests anyway. You give it a one chance for each of the dungs per week for higher keys, and that way you keep keys wanted for all dungs and with doing them you fill your vault aswell. Then you have a chance to get an item which has to be even the one you want out of the few for each dung. So it'd be basically the same as very rare drops in the raid. There is surely no middle ground to exist between either not having a chance to get it at all besides vault, or having unlimited chances and having BiS gear within a week. Crazy to not look at it in black or white, indeed
@951001ifyКүн бұрын
Gilded from +7 nice. 1 Myth item / week if you dont push mythic raid still miserable, 12s should give 1/6. Other than this, moving 2850 to 3000 will push "go meta or go home" even further, up until this point people were fighting for spots with a timer, now they will fight agains mount. HUGE difference. Timing a 12 or 15 who cares, both gives the same reward: myth item in vault. In S2 it gives a mount. People will want the best of the best even more to clear 12-13s.
@faldarithКүн бұрын
We got no affix m+ before gta6
@D2MephistoКүн бұрын
W
@lakrinmex8076Күн бұрын
I think they should add Myth gear as end of dungeon reward not just from vault. 12+ keys should have dropped Myth. With new season that would probably be 15+ keys in diffuculty. Right now as a casual player I dont find any reason to do +11 keys. I kinda want to actaully. But it feels waste of time so I just swithc to an alt to do 10+ for weekly instead.
@koko-cc1qkКүн бұрын
They have finally spotted the issue of meta classes without providing a solution 😢, just make a simple LFG system similar to riot system, using LFG based on a cuurent rating regardless of class type 🎉
@RealCecilionКүн бұрын
They already spotted that issue in bfa. Your idea sounds bad. I don’t want to queue into a 16 and don’t have a brez or lust just because it’s an automated system. Also not playing meta makes the key WAY harder making your idea a glorified gamble of getting the right classes AND players that can execute them. In the current system I can atleast pick a comp that works.
@Fotumain13Күн бұрын
Biggest issue for keys with me, I could run 5 keys and never see a piece, and this is often the case. Not only that but when I do see a piece, it's usually not a piece I actually need. Where on the flip side the loot from delves is always going to give me something and it will often be an upgrade if I used a key or map. End up dungeon gear is never going to be best in slot, it needs to be upgraded also, anyway. Everyone should get a piece at the end.
@IanHumitoКүн бұрын
Please dratnos don't shave 😢
@Mentok211Күн бұрын
No brewmaster rework?
@KhylauGroveКүн бұрын
Let's fkn go!!!!
@KhylauGroveКүн бұрын
What the what!!! Hero track gear from completing +6's
@TheFeintNASSКүн бұрын
This legit looks awesome.
@CoversIncorporatedКүн бұрын
These are good but I guess the death penalty thing and not changing the stops/interrupts back convinces me they aren’t actually listening to us and has me not so hopeful Why do keys deplete? I’m just trying to do an easy 10 for vault but now I have to push my 9 because the tank left on first boss Blizzard, making your game inconvenient isn’t as cute and quirky as you think it is
@alansmith4395Күн бұрын
of course, that makes normal raid similarly pointless. All these circles touch
@garethdunne3443Күн бұрын
Season 3 of Dragonflight, widely regarded as the best season of M+ ever had Gilded crests drop at key level 6 with Mythic 1 drop from Level 8 in the vault. This update does not revert to that position instead Gilded crests drop at 7 with players required to do a 10 to get Mythic 1 in the vault. Until this gets addressed M+ progression will still suck. Players capable of doing a 7 through 10 need that gear to be able to go get their portals, not get your portal, then get Mythic pieces. Still an L for me
@Nate0808Күн бұрын
As with many of the changes made over the past few years of WoW, how did Blizzard have to learn this the hard way? As soon as TWW came out, people were complaining that keys were dead and pointless, or too hard over a certain key level. Things stayed this way for 6 months and NOW they're deciding allowing delves to cannibalize low key gear was a bad idea? The lack of foresight is frankly alarming by a dev team that has been working on this game for 20 years. Yes, I know, Ship of Theseus and all that, but it still doesn't instill much hope in the future of the game. They will continue to push poorly thought out changes live and allow the average player to beta test.