Amazing talk, thank you for diving so deep. I really appreciated the level of detail you gave

Holy moly! You compiled a shell environment AND nodejs to webassembly to run in the browser!? That's unbelievable! Does the Nodejs here support napi extensions? Do you have a link to the playground? Do you have a link to the sources? This is _exactly_ what I need - I'd love to build on top of it

Flutter to go to the moon

I'd really love to know how to set up this project from scratch and successfuly get the wasm working with @_extern and, also getting the hot reloading working

next time give each person a mic

Promo-SM

Java write once, Debug everywhere

I have my jaw drop when you demo-ed the excel one. Damn!

This guy sounds like one of those smart, dumb people, who's also 40 years old. Do you want to build something. Can I say that? Can you.

Mayby more code or demo to show me the improve or fution, such as kotlin in web how to use with react, you know that even rust wasm provide the react and yum to build web app.

I am sorry but Flutter makes no sense in the web why use something else when JavaScript is the web standard Flutter is great for mobile that s it

what a terrible presentation

Google is that hard to have SEO friendly web/website app in Flutter 😢

Every single time I hear Flutter pitch speech stuffed with benchmarks putting Flutter in a spotlight, I swear, every single time I immediately follow one of the example app links and end up with a janky app with terrible UX. Oh, let me try this text input field - keyboard appears and app yeets you to another dimension and text input is nowhere to be seen. I'm talking about Material 3 app mentioned on the slides. I love Dart lang, I'd really love using it for web development, but this whole "Flutter for web" narrative is just one big lie.

Is this tool/plugin still in test? I don't how to debug wasm with js in an full process like you show in the video.

Too much magic going on here. I wonder how does recovery actually works, specially for time sensitive workloads or random internal inputs: - Your WASM program dies, so it needs to be resurrected on another node. - How many events need to be replayed on the cloned WASM program to get to the state the program was when it crashed? - How long does it all take? - What happens if the program was running for days, months or years before crashing? won't you have a long down time until it resumes somewhere else? - What if the running state of the crashed program involved calculations using time or random data (auto generated keys) as sources and those did not interact with the host, but were only internal to the WASM program memory? is the WASM running memory being replicated or snapshoted? that seems expensive BTW. Very interesting how that could be done thought. I do not think the app running on Golem can be completely oblivious to the constraints the platform imposes: apps that might reply differently to the same inputs depending on randomly generated data or the wall clock will not be reproducible, so they should be negated those somehow, or they should asume reality does not really exist for them... If the platform is going to intercept random source generator interactions or private key generation to replay and fake it later, that is a security issue, for instance. You cannot fully isolate apps from reality. And in reality, shit happens. Another thing, you are NOT deleting databases, you are just hidding them from app developers. Databases will be used to store the events that will have to be replayed as needed. Same goes for Kubernetes or network serialization, that will still exist in a way or another on the Golem platform level. or below It might be a good simplification and might reduce duplication and increase overall productivity, but someone will still have to write and maintain databases, schedulers and network serializations.

Great work, it was quite interesting-EGLD is the future.🚀

That's....really boring! It's just another iteration of "the thing we could already do, but in the browser." Jeff even says, "there are no VMs", and then has to clarify, "just WASM"(a VM). Then they share the screens and do the CRDT thing and he goes, "it's like we both SSH'd into a shared server, except there's no server!" But there IS a server - it's the one that's exposed by the service worker! Huh, yeah, it's almost as if we should go back and fix the UX around the actual OS instead of doing whatever this is.

Great!

Awesome

Great explanation and enormous work behind it, congratulations to the entire MultiversX team. 💯🤝👏👏👏👏 It's time to build.

is SEO gonna be totally ignored now?

"Super easy, barely an incovenience" ~ Ryan Goerge I see what u did there. Btw, the speech was tight.

Not WAOS :( xP

The dream is getting closer and closer to being realized. #flutter #web

Guys, please reduce the volume of the intro! Otherwise cool presentation, thanks!

Closures closures closures. Please resolve issue 798 in AssemblyScript! Everything else seems very exciting, but it's completely useless without closures because rewrites from JS/TS are too unwieldy without this ubiquitous core feature.

Fuckin hell.

Really cool BUT if you are starting from scratch and want to take inspiration from stuff like smalltalk, why not listen to Alen Kay and not try to repeat the same 50 years old Unix design?

This is next level

This is really cool stuff. I am having a tiny bit of trouble seeing the use case but I think thats just because its early. The tech here though is epic.

awesome. Mozart's Ghost! The hottest band on the internet!

Cool presentation!

Supporting WASI would be rad

Pretty rad!

Can we get the slides?

I love wasm

IT'S awesome

this is a treat

you mean BEAM + Erlang?

now if only we can do this in dart/flutter more relevant, how might one create a plugin system for a php app? that is, i'd like to have the same level of extensibility as just... adding php files

Thanks for the presentation! I’ve requested access on Discord.

Looks like a cool project! tempted to try it out, maybe with a neovim plugin

This was a great talk but honestly thought I was on 2x speed.

Very informative history talk by a wonderful speaker. Thank you for this.

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Wanted a real-time comparison of the renderers rather than just slides team... Flutter

M1 pro na forget do 60 fps on a mobile device Team Svelte . React are alrteady doing this since origin

If not html renderer forget about mid-range mobile devices from opening flutter web app