POLV @ RBP Ballymena 2024
8:01
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Lambeg O&B @ RBP Ballymena 2024
3:33
Drumaheagles @ RBP Ballymena 2024
4:41
Ballycraigy @ RBP Ballymena 2024
3:53
Cairncastle @ RBP Ballymena 2024
3:33
Ballyquin @ RBP Ballymena 2024
7:28
Star of the Roe @ ABOD 2024
2:38
3 ай бұрын
Ballymena Proddy Boys @ ABOD 2024
5:41
Kilcluney @ ABOD 2024
3:08
3 ай бұрын
Bessbrook @ ABOD 2024
4:00
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Cookstown SOW @ ABOD 2024
2:38
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Ballycraigy @ ABOD 2024
9:07
4 ай бұрын
Pride of the Derg @ Blair 2024
10:59
Home Town Bands @ Derryloran 2024
7:02
The DFB on Tour - May 2024
11:26
4 ай бұрын
William Anderson - Scarva 2024
10:09
Big Hitters - Scarva 2024
10:03
4 ай бұрын
Lambeg O & B - 13th July 2024
5:31
Пікірлер
@Cicero1689
@Cicero1689 14 күн бұрын
The Pilgrims ✊🏻
@TheBrick-j1b
@TheBrick-j1b 4 ай бұрын
Big Hitters for sure... All fantastic bands..
@John-oy4dp
@John-oy4dp 4 ай бұрын
I didn’t think yous could get any better but yous definitely are awesome up the gert❤❤❤. …scotch John
@paulkirkpatrick6371
@paulkirkpatrick6371 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant band and not far off Millar men band standards this is a great marching band with great flautists in it who are all ways welcome in belfast
@jimmyamour9111
@jimmyamour9111 Жыл бұрын
No surrender
@TropicalJungleIreland
@TropicalJungleIreland Жыл бұрын
Serious talent.
@ralph6968
@ralph6968 Жыл бұрын
wow this guy is amazing.
@arnoldshannon7222
@arnoldshannon7222 Жыл бұрын
Great Band especially playing the tune the Last of the Mohicans brill
@Meda1820
@Meda1820 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of my school days💕 "Along the road that leads to streets of Gold✨"
@darrenlennon1643
@darrenlennon1643 Жыл бұрын
Awesome 👌 the kids are the future. We'll done all 🇬🇧
@dannikilbride8153
@dannikilbride8153 Жыл бұрын
Superb❤
@banjodeano2202
@banjodeano2202 4 жыл бұрын
brilliant, i enjoyed that
@elsiethomas7707
@elsiethomas7707 4 жыл бұрын
Good
@chrisjardine4013
@chrisjardine4013 4 жыл бұрын
Pride of the Maine are class!
@kelvinchifulumo8366
@kelvinchifulumo8366 4 жыл бұрын
beautiful song
@williamjordan6808
@williamjordan6808 4 жыл бұрын
That made my night what great little band and the Sash just great.
@LongHaulReb
@LongHaulReb 4 жыл бұрын
Praise The Lord a Band Marching playing a Gospel Great Praise The Lord and God Bless
@odena5074
@odena5074 4 жыл бұрын
Here is the ' Runyankore- Rukiga Version' Runyankore- Rukiga is spoken in South-Western Uganda, East Africa. In the 1940's , there were massive Christian preaching in which people gave there lives to Christ. 1 MUKAMA nangir' ati, Oin' amaani makye; Hat' ij' onyehongyere Toribaasa kukyena. Yes' akaihura Amabanja gangye, Yansaasirira kimwe, Naayera tititi. 2 Niwe wenk' oin' amaani Kworobeza kimwe Omutima gw'eibaare, N'okukiz' omubembe. Yes' akaihura, n'ebindi. 3 Tiinyine kintu kyona Ky'okweraatiraho; Eshagama ye yonka Niy' empais' oburungi. Yes' akaihura, n'ebindi. 4 Omu maisho g'ekitebe kye Ndyayemererayo, Nyin' eminyago yangye, Ngit' aha bigyere bye. Yes' akaihura, n'ebindi.
@pcmaclin
@pcmaclin 4 жыл бұрын
What?? Roman Catholics don't like hymns???
@raymiller9391
@raymiller9391 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus will. Meet you there!! Amen. Beautiful!
@Div_1992
@Div_1992 4 жыл бұрын
Hi just stumbled across your channel, I'm a born again Christian, I was heavily involved in the ABOD, Orange Order and loyalist flute bands in Scotland for about 15 years. I've noticed a lot of "protestants" in the lodges, bands and supporters are not even Christian and have no interest in hearing about Jesus and his redeeming blood, but would rather shout f the pope and have a hatred for roman catholics for reasons they can't even explain. It's sad.
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment. Rather worryingly it's something I have also noticed. In Loyalist circles it could be described as the 'Rangers Way' as in follow, follow. And it's actually seems to be quite widespread. However the same could also be said in respect of the Republican attitude held by some in the Roman Catholic. However it would obviously be f the Queen instead. I think that the obvious reasons for these attitudes is the toxic mix of Religion, Politics and Cultural identity.
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
“I am the way and the truth and the life,” Jesus answers. Only by accepting him and his teachings and imitating his life course can one enter the heavenly house of his Father. Jesus says: “No one comes to the Father except through me.”​-John 14:6. www.jw.org/en/library/books/jesus/final-ministry/way-truth-life/ biblereasons.com/spiritual-blindness/ christianity.stackexchange.com/questions/7156/what-is-the-meaning-of-gods-omni-powers
@eastlandskid
@eastlandskid 5 жыл бұрын
Some great tunes played there ........
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
Many a person ends up a shipwreck, with only a few sailing off into the sunset, over the horizon.
@christinamorrison6078
@christinamorrison6078 5 жыл бұрын
Fantastic band
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
Psalm 119-18 ESV: Open my eyes, that I may behold wondrous things out of your law. Isaiah 32-3 ESV: Then the eyes of those who see will not be closed, and the ears of those who hear will give attention. Ephesians 1-18 ESV: Having the eyes of your hearts enlightened, that you may know what is the hope to which he has called you, what are the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints. Acts 26-18 ESV: To open their eyes, so that they may turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me.’ Isaiah 57-15 ESV: God is high and lifted up. He lives forever. His name is holy. He says, “I live in a high and holy place, but I also live with people who are humble and sorry for their sins. I will give new life to those who are humble in spirit. I will give new life to those who are sorry for their sins. Hebrews 1-3 ESV: He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power. After making purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high, Proverbs 30-4 ESV: Who has ascended to heaven and come down? Who has gathered the wind in his fists? Who has wrapped up the waters in a garment? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is his name, and what is his son's name? Surely you know! John 3,14-15 ESV: And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in him may have eternal life John 12:32,35-36 ESV: And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself. The light is among you for a little while longer. Walk while you have the light, lest darkness overtake you. The one who walks in the darkness does not know where he is going. While you have the light, believe in the light, that you may become sons of light.” Isaiah 52-13 ESV: See, my servant will act wisely; he will be raised and lifted up and highly exalted. Colossians 3:1 ESV: If then you have been raised with Christ, seek the things that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God. Hebrews 12-2 ESV: looking to Jesus, the founder and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is seated at the right hand of the throne of God. Ephesians 4-15 ESV: Rather, speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in every way into him who is the head, into Christ, Revelation 15-4 ESV: Who will not fear, O Lord, and glorify your name? For you alone are holy. All nations will come and worship you, for your righteous acts have been revealed.” Revelation 4-11 ESV: “Worthy are you, our Lord and God, to receive glory and honour and power, for you created all things, and by your will they existed and were created.” 1 John 4,12 ESV: No one has ever seen God; but if we love one another, God lives in us and his love is made complete in us. Luke 2-14 ESV: “Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace among those with whom he is pleased!” Matthew 6-22 ESV: “The eye is the lamp of the body. So, if your eye is healthy, your whole body will be full of light, Proverbs 20-12 ESV: The hearing ear and the seeing eye, the Lord has made them both. Ephesians 4-18 ESV: They are darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, due to their hardness of heart. Isaiah 35-5 ESV: Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf unstopped; Psalm 146-8 ESV: The Lord opens the eyes of the blind. The Lord lifts up those who are bowed down; the Lord loves the righteous. Ephesians 5-8 ESV: For at one time you were darkness, but now you are light in the Lord. Walk as children of light 2 Corinthians 4-6 ESV: For God, who said, “Let light shine out of darkness,” has shone in our hearts to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. John 4-35 ESV: Do you not say, ‘There are yet four months, then comes the harvest’? Look, I tell you, lift up your eyes, and see that the fields are white for harvest. Mark 8-25 ESV: Then Jesus laid his hands on his eyes again; and he opened his eyes, his sight was restored, and he saw everything clearly. Psalm 119-19 ESV: I am a sojourner on the earth; hide not your commandments from me! Matthew 6,22-23 ESV: “The eye is the lamp of the body. So, if your eye is healthy, your whole body will be full of light, but if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light in you is darkness, how great is the darkness! Isaiah 29-18 ESV: In that day the deaf shall hear the words of a book, and out of their gloom and darkness the eyes of the blind shall see. John 9-39 ESV: Jesus said, “For judgment I came into this world, that those who do not see may see, and those who see may become blind.” Luke 24-45 ESV: Then he opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, 1 Corinthians 4-5 ESV: Therefore do not pronounce judgment before the time, before the Lord comes, who will bring to light the things now hidden in darkness and will disclose the purposes of the heart. Then each one will receive his commendation from God. 1 Corinthians 2-9 ESV: But, as it is written, “What no eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the heart of man imagined, what God has prepared for those who love him”- Romans 10,9-13 ESV: Because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, bestowing his riches on all who call on him. For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” Luke 4-18 ESV: “The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty those who are oppressed, Matthew 7-3 ESV: Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? Isaiah 6,9-10 ESV: And he said, “Go, and say to this people: “‘Keep on hearing, but do not understand; keep on seeing, but do not perceive.’ Make the heart of this people dull, and their ears heavy, and blind their eyes; lest they see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their hearts, and turn and be healed.” 1 John 1,3 ESV: That which we have seen and heard we proclaim also to you, so that you too may have fellowship with us; and indeed our fellowship is with the Father and with his Son Jesus Christ. 2 Timothy 3,15 ESV: And how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. Acts 26,16-18 ESV: But rise and stand upon your feet, for I have appeared to you for this purpose, to appoint you as a servant and witness to the things in which you have seen me and to those in which I will appear to you, delivering you from your people and from the Gentiles-to whom I am sending you to open their eyes, so that they may turn from darkness to light and from the power of Satan to God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me.’ Ephesians 3:16 ESV: That according to the riches of his glory he may grant you to be strengthened with power through his Spirit in your inner being, Matthew 16-17 ESV: And Jesus answered him, “Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah! For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my Father who is in heaven. Isaiah 6-1 ESV: In the year that King Uzziah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and the train of his robe filled the temple. Psalm 121-1 ESV: A Song of Ascents. I lift up my eyes to the hills. From where does my help come? Job 42-5 ESV: I had heard of you by the hearing of the ear, but now my eye sees you; John 14-6 ESV: Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 2 Corinthians 4,3-4 ESV: And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled only to those who are perishing. In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God. Romans 5-2 ESV: Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God. 1 Samuel 16-7 ESV: But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not look on his appearance or on the height of his stature, because I have rejected him. For the Lord sees not as man sees: man looks on the outward appearance, but the Lord looks on the heart.” Matthew 13-15 ESV: For this people's heart has grown dull, and with their ears they can barely hear, and their eyes they have closed, lest they should see with their eyes and hear with their ears and understand with their heart and turn, and I would heal them.’
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
Matthew 5 [13] “You are the salt of the earth, but if salt has lost its taste, how shall its saltiness be restored? It is no longer good for anything except to be thrown out and trampled under people’s feet. [14] “You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden. [15] Nor do people light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on a stand, and it gives light to all in the house. [16] In the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven.
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
James 5 [7] Be patient, then, brothers and sisters, until the Lord’s coming. See how the farmer waits for the land to yield its valuable crop, patiently waiting for the autumn and spring rains. [8] You too, be patient and stand firm, because the Lord’s coming is near. [9] Don’t grumble against one another, brothers and sisters, or you will be judged. The Judge is standing at the door! [10] Brothers and sisters, as an example of patience in the face of suffering, take the prophets who spoke in the name of the Lord. [11] As you know, we count as blessed those who have persevered. You have heard of Job’s perseverance and have seen what the Lord finally brought about. The Lord is full of compassion and mercy.
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
www.quora.com/Bible-Study-What-is-the-meaning-of-Jesuss-statements-about-the-broad-way-to-destruction-and-the-narrow-way-that-leads-to-life-in-light-of-the-context-of-those-statements
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
Keep The Banner Flying High - Graham Kendrick kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIHGmKiMh6t9nck
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
Graham Kendrick - Keep the Banner Flying High kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3PbZoGBZ7Gfgsk Seems appropriate. However I don't believe that Jesus is the main vision of the Orange Order at the moment.
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
Up to 667. Respite for the time being
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
At least someone is more optimistic about this situation. However strangely I did have some trouble saving and publishing this video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioiqd6CDgt6iobM
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
At least it's not just me. Apparently this may only be the tip of the iceberg. focalpointministries.org/product/bad-theology-part-3/
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
What did Jesus pay for? All of our mistakes...we just have to swallow our pride and admit we're not always (hardly ever) right. www.leadlikejesus.com/blog/when-being-right-wrong “There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands;there is no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one.” Romans 3, 10-12
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
Apparently these are (currently )viewed as 'sins' (More or less just non biblical add ons and evidence of Legalism): Did I fast on Ash Wednesday and Good Friday? Did I eat meat on the Fridays of Lent or Ash Wednesday? Did I fail to receive Holy Communion during Eastertime? Did I go to Holy Communion in a state of mortal sin? Without fasting (water and medicine permitted) for one hour from food and drink? Did I make a bad confession? Did I fail to contribute to the support of the Church? www.parishofdungannon.com/Examination-of-Conscience.html
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
Apparently a truce was called in 1999. But in practice nothing seems to have really changed. www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/documents/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_31101999_cath-luth-joint-declaration_en.html 'These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is based on merely human rules they have been taught.' Isaiah 29:13 'They worship me in vain; their teachings are merely human rules' Matthew 15:9
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
The case for the defence (some of it is vaguely accurate, that is apart from the liberties taken as opposed to scripture): www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p2s2c2a4.htm
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
Background Lyrics: For nothing good have I whereby Thy grace to claim- I’ll wash my garments white in the blood of Calv’ry’s Lamb. Jesus paid it all, all to Him I owe; Sin had left a crimson stain, he washed it white as snow. And the blood shall never lose its pow’r, no, never, no, never, Jesus’ blood avails for sin forever, And shall never lose its pow’r.
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
Further Resources: unlockingthebible.org/broadcast/you-must-be-born-again-1/ unlockingthebible.org/broadcast/you-must-be-born-again-2/ www.intouchuk.org/listen/featured/what-it-means-to-believe-in-jesus Warning: A Blow at Self-Righteousness - C.H. Spurgeon 16/12/1860 (Audio / Text Links) www.spurgeon.org/resource-library/sermons/a-blow-at-self-righteousness#flipbook/ kzbin.info/www/bejne/ZqmzYX5ofNB1pJY
@stevenhill3207
@stevenhill3207 5 жыл бұрын
Yasss the Derry 💙💙
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
Should Old Acquaintance be forgot, and never thought upon; The flames of Love extinguished, and fully past and gone: Is thy sweet Heart now grown so cold, that loving Breast of thine; That thou canst never once reflect On old long syne. James Watson (1711)
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
'Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it.' Matthew 7: 13-14 In light of these verses, it's quite ironic, that this particular part of the procession route is where the people who could be described as being 'Cultural Protestants' congregate. Out to have a good day, watch the parade and have a drink or several. They would probably describe themselves as Unionists and Loyalists and are technically Protestants (It may be worrying to know what proportion of them made it to church the following day, or any Sunday for that matter). But they have little interest in the Religious aspect of the event. Also partly evidenced by a number of Gospel Tracts lying on the Ground (I dare say most people would not discard a winning lottery ticket. However with a Lottery Win there isn't always a happy ending, as the prize may end up ruining their lives. And although most 'Christians' don't act like they've won big. For some it may be a case of acting like a 'Plaster Saint'. Rather than spreading the wealth amongst their friends and family. It could also be because they have to wait to pick up their prize. Most people wouldn't turn down spending the remainder of their lifetime on a paradise island. But on the other hand most people seem happy to enjoy sinful pleasures and reject an eternity of heavenly bliss). It appeared as if most of the 'Young' people present knew the words of 'The Sash'. However there didn't seem to be the same level of vocal support for the Hymn which interestingly contains the line: 'That He should give His only Son, To make a wretch His treasure.' It would be of great benefit to them if they become aware of this fact, that is if they don't happen to know it already. It's a worrying time when a child goes missing. However a lot of 'Young' people seem to have went missing in a religious sense. Many of whom may never be safely returned to a loving 'Parent'. Interesting introduction to the speech I'm not sure if it was inspired by Shakesphere “Friends, Romans, countrymen...lend me your ears”. However it does include the relevant line: 'The evil that men do lives after them; The good is oft interred with their bones' I'm also not sure if Rev. Anderson is familiar with the story of Truth and Lies (Relating to 'Truth coming out of her well to shame mankind'.) 'Well' maybe he is or 'Well' maybe he isn't
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
The motto 'Quis Separabit' (Who can separate?) is derived from the Latin translation of the Bible Verse from Romans 8:35. Quis nos separabit a caritate Christi? / Who shall separate us from the love of Christ?. It has been notably used as the motto for many British Army Units including The Royal Irish / Ulster Rifles. The Full Biblical context is: [vs 28-34] And we know that God works all things together for the good of those who love Him, who are called according to His purpose. For those God foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many brothers. And those He predestined, He also called; those He called, He also justified; those He justified, He also glorified. What then shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? He who did not spare His own Son but gave Him up for us all, how will He not also, along with Him, freely give us all things? Who will bring any charge against God’s elect? It is God who justifies. Who is there to condemn us? For Christ Jesus, who died, and more than that was raised to life, is at the right hand of God-and He is interceding for us. [vs 35-39] Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or distress or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? As it is written: “For Your sake we face death all day long; we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.” No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor principalities, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
@robtbo
@robtbo 5 жыл бұрын
If there is a god who cares what human beings believe, He has made it so that everything that has an explanation is explained through the natural processes of His creation and He’s made it so easy for human beings to invent false gods to worship without even a speck of direct evidence. It’s pretty obvious that if God exists then God doesn’t want to be found. I’m sure that such a sophisticated being would appreciate those who get it by recognizing that His creation absolutely does not point to His existence. In fact he’d probably be pretty pissed at people for not recognizing this and SUPER pissed at people claiming to know Him or what He’s all about. I’m an atheist because I fear the wrath of God.
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh (Sinful Nature). For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever you want. But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery (e.g. Free Love / Adultery / Pornography / self gratification / lustful pleasures / immoral and shameful ways thought and deeds etc.); idolatry (i.e. placing something else before God / forgetting or ignoring God / pursuing happiness in paltry, idol pleasures / self indulgence / greed) and witchcraft; hatred, discord (conflict, friction, hostility etc.), jealousy, fits of rage (anger), selfish ambition (selfishness / self-seeking / pride / arrogance / self-importance / egotistical etc.), dissensions (arguing, falling-out, conflict), factions (rivalry) and envy (covetousness, desire); drunkenness, orgies (i.e. wild parties / revelry / the drinking culture), and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is (selfless) love, joy (happiness), peace, forbearance (patience), kindness, goodness (charity / compassion etc.), faithfulness, gentleness (humble) and self-control (self denial / restraint). Against such things there is no law. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires (pleasures). Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. Let us not become conceited (complacent / self righteous / hypocritical / sanctimonious), provoking and envying each other. Galatians 5, 16-26 (Expanded)
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
Apparently life can come from Non life (which came from nothing), but it's unable to be created by God (from nothing). Seems to be a logical fallacy. It's also quite ironic that (our bodies at least) return to the ground. To someone living in Bible times all this Science would be complete nonsense. How ironic that many people now think the Bible is. It must be something to do with our level of knowledge and education or having a library full of books. Despite all the complex Science in the world. Without something as simple as H2O none of us would be living. Given that Atheists place a great deal of ‘partly blind’ faith in Science. Due to the fact that they are unlikely to know or understand the subject entirely such as watching a few videos, or relying on ‘so called’ experts, based on their current understanding (The "science was wrong before" gambit is an example of both the continuum fallacy and the nirvana fallacy). Basically all it can reliably provide is an explanation of chemical elements and how they all work together to make something a living organism and an understanding of the different life processes), they would need to be sure they are right, given that they are banking so much on it's infallibility and supremacy (as well as it’s assumptions and theoretical ideas which are usually put across as facts. I prefer to hedge my bets. I also notice that Rachel doesn't refer to Christians / Religious people directly, calling them Creationists instead I believe that given the consequences. The burden of proof is actually on the non believer. But to be fair nobody; not even the most radical Atheist or Christian, can be 100% sure either way. Despite all the rhetoric . And at the end of the day they are both largely based on belief. It's therefore a very dangerous mindset for an Atheist to want cold hard objective evidence (especially as they are so willing to believe in scientific Hypothesis). As to be fair if you discount the Bible (which Atheists do) it's really down to gut feeling, circumstances or emotions (Theologically the Grace of God). Also it seems ironic for someone to want logical proof for something which is inherently not logical. I suppose it's a symptom of someone who has put their Faith in Science. Although it shouldn't be part of the Christian character to boast. The day after death is one point where they could be justified in having bragging rights. On the contrary Atheists are only able to boast in this life. The fundamental question is who will get the last laugh? (It’s better to be a wrong Christian [not that it would matter in that scenario], than a wrong Atheist). Plus a Christian’s reliance on the Bible, ironically seems to have many similarities to an Atheists reliance on Science. Although some of the biblical prophesies could be defined as being vague. The attitudes and mindsets of some people are still as relevant now as they were then. Obviously using Science, is not a good argument to convince someone who has put their faith in it (and prophesies were vague, some science is equally as theoretical - especially when people prefer to believe in something allegedly billions of years ago and not 2000 years ago). The whole we're in the middle of infinity thing doesn't really make sense to me, however I may well have an eternity to figure it out. Therefore it seems logical to want to have a definite end point. Be that tomorrow, next week, month, year, another decade or so etc. Or prefer to believe that we (plus everything else that surrounds) are the result of many millions of years’ worth of genetic mutations (after starting off from nothing). Which all happened to coincide, with everything working perfectly in unison (including the goldilocks zone), at a time that it could be discussed on the internet (By a species that is far more advanced mentally than anything else on the planet AKA a freak of nature). Why does God exist? 'Because' Is that proof enough. Although to be fair the argument may not hold up to scientific scrutiny. But how does science explain 'The Beatles'. Why have a creator, when (science says) you don't need one? One of the great philosophical questions of the modern age. Followed by if there is a God what has he been doing all of this time? Obviously apart from everything. Although the universe is a big place apparently there is no room for God. And although the earth wasn't made for us, our life form came about to suit the planet, which seems to be a logical fallacy. The coincidence of conformity. I don't know if there is any irony in the fact that there are animals that seem to be so random, and I presume that scientists have spent a great deal of time studying them. I wonder how long it would take for someone to go from being spiritually cold to spiritually hot and not just lukewarm. The clock is ticking. However funnily enough Noah is high up on the current list of popular baby names. Apparently he was also mocked by people. Saying stories have been used to teach lessons and rules in different cultures (despite rejecting the whole Bible). What sort of physical evidence does she want? Does she want to see the marks! (Re. Doubting Thomas). Plus to be fair Darwin seems to have left plenty of wriggle room in some of his arguments. On a separate point Vox Populi, Vox Dei "the voice of the people is the voice of God." Should sometimes be taken with a pinch of salt. Particularly in light of modern culture. In both contexts it's also good advice to look at the bigger picture. I think this is where the reliance on scientific logic falls down. Much of the imaginative reasoning is just based on assumptions, presumptions, possibilities and theory (clutching at straws), tailored to suit a belief in evolution, there also seems to be alot of gaps in the story. (Might as well be fairy tales).
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
@U♋Y Obviously you know the Bible very well. Thanks for the verses (Although i'm not totally sure what relevance they have to everything else). However the most important thing for people to remember is that it's a knowledge of Jesus and not just the bible which is ultimately of more importance. It's not what is in your head, but in your heart that counts.
@Tovec8
@Tovec8 5 жыл бұрын
@@applecorera4 *Apparently life can come from Non life (which came from nothing), but it's unable to be created by God (from nothing). Seems to be a logical fallacy.* It does? Which fallacy exactly? *It's also quite ironic that (our bodies at least) return to the ground.* I don't think you know what ironic means. *To someone living in Bible times all this Science would be complete nonsense.* Depending on which "times" you imagine this, the number/concept of 0 would be completely nonsense to them. *How ironic that many people now think the Bible is.* That's because we know a great deal more now than we did back in "Bible times" and know that the people who wrote the bible don't know what we now know. That's why we now conclude the bible is nonsense. That isn't irony. It is fact. *It must be something to do with our level of knowledge and education or having a library full of books.* Quite true. Greater education and especially specialty and training sciences and harder sciences highly correlate with irreligiosity and atheism. That is to say, the people who understand the world better than the uneducated layman tend NOT to believe in gods. *Given that Atheists place a great deal of ‘partly blind’ faith in Science.* I can't think of a single atheist who even uses faith, at all, let alone any who put any sort of faith in science, let alone any who put "partly blind" faith in science. *The burden of proof is actually on the non believer.* No, it isn't. The burden of proof is on the one making the claim. You claim a god exists, therefore you must provide proof for that claim. Else, NO ONE ought to accept that claim - meaning everyone OUGHT TO BE non-believers unless you can prove your claim. That is how rational and honest inquiry works. *But to be fair nobody; not even the most radical Atheist or Christian, can be 100% sure either way.* Sure of what? *It's therefore a very dangerous mindset for an Atheist to want cold hard objective evidence (especially as they are so willing to believe in scientific Hypothesis).* How is it dangerous to believe in science when science has a proven track record? How is it dangerous to accept what science can show to be true, since science can show things to be true. Sure, accepting a mere hypothesis as if it were a theory would be a mistake, but by in large we don't do that. *As to be fair if you discount the Bible (which Atheists do) it's really down to gut feeling, circumstances or emotions (Theologically the Grace of God).* Not at all. In fact you already touched on the problem. There is insufficient evidence to support your claim. When actual atheists are asked (rather than the straw men you imagine atheists to be), you will find that atheists OVERWHELMINGLY cite lack of evidence gods exist as our #1 reason not to believe in them. And when asked theists will often cite fallacious, irrational, dishonest, or unsubstantiated reasons for their belief. They have to. There isn't evidence for the existence of gods. *Also it seems ironic for someone to want logical proof for something which is inherently not logical.* Again, you keep using that word but it doesn't mean what you think it does. Also, thank you for admitting your belief is not logical. That's what I was saying. Now, since you admit that, why do you believe? *The whole we're in the middle of infinity thing doesn't really make sense to me, however I may well have an eternity to figure it out.* Well no of course you don't. You will die someday and so you have to do your "figuring out" before you die. The sooner the better from where I'm sitting. Also, just because you can't make sense of what science says doesn't really matter. That's called an argument from incredulity and it is a fallacy. Not that you care about rational inquiry of course, but if you did. *Or prefer to believe that we (plus everything else that surrounds) are the result of many millions of years’ worth of genetic mutations (after starting off from nothing).* That's still a straw man of what science knows to be the case. You should probably go research what we actually know rather than relying on straw men told to you by your assumed authorities. Beyond that, of course, of course it isn't about what we "prefer" to be the case. That is the fallacious appeal to consequences that your side does. Science instead relies on demonstration of fact. It isn't that we "want" anything, it is that we can show we are what science says we are. We are the product of not only millions of years of mutations (and other genetic changes) but billions of years. Not liking that we are doesn't make a bit of difference. *Which all happened to coincide, with everything working perfectly in unison (including the goldilocks zone), at a time that it could be discussed on the internet (By a species that is far more advanced mentally than anything else on the planet AKA a freak of nature).* Actually, you have this exactly backwards. It is because we are in the goldilocks zone that we are able to be here. After all, we are plastic to our environment not the environment specially made for us. *Why does God exist?* He doesn't. *'Because' Is that proof enough.* No, it isn't. Not remotely. *Although to be fair the argument may not hold up to scientific scrutiny.* It doesn't hold up to ANY scrutiny. *But how does science explain 'The Beatles'.* Explain what about them? *Why have a creator, when (science says) you don't need one?* Actually, it is even worse for you than that. Science says there can't be one. Just like science says no gods can be involved in lightning. Those who previously held that Zeus were responsible for lightning and that Zeus even existed are just as wrong as you are about YHWH. *And although the earth wasn't made for us, our life form came about to suit the planet, which seems to be a logical fallacy.* Again, what fallacy exactly? *Apparently he[Noah] was also mocked by people.* Yes, both in the present by people who have read the story and also in the story by the people he knew before the flood. Seems like Noah is inherently mockable.
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tovec8 Thanks very much for taking the time to provide the detailed comments. I’m also glad that you kept things in a civil nature, unlike some others (it doesn’t really help their argument). You say that the Bible is nonsense. However large parts of it are very relevant to modern society, interestingly including the Noah story (that is if you happen to be of that persuasion). And although in western society at least we would have a greater level of education and therefore knowledge of the world in general. Many people seem to be lacking in terms of wisdom, compared to those in the Bible. On the other hand a phrase like ‘you must be born again’ didn’t even make sense to an educated man of the time. And in the same way today a person with a great deal of scientific knowledge would be of the same opinion from the same biological perspective. However from a Spiritual perspective it means admitting that you are inherently wrong, and leads to a radical life change beyond our own power. If it were left up to ourselves we would probably keep making the same mistakes over and over again. When I say Faith in Science. It means that people put their trust in educated people who claim to understand the world better. They also attach validity to what science has to say (If Science says it’s true, then it must be true, because Science can never be wrong or ‘we can show we are, what science says we are’). Apparently scientific theory and perceived facts are now ‘gospel’. Also they trust that they will eventually have enough evidence to prove a hypothesis. And are also putting a lot of trust in human intelligence and knowledge. And have they managed to figure out the Theory of everything yet. At the end of the day everything is based on the assumption that man is more intelligent than a Creator God. The danger is if they are too proud to admit that they might be wrong. You are correct in saying that I’m relying on assumed authority. However this is the ultimate authority with whom all things are possible. You also mention straw men several times. I don’t know if there is any coincidence in what they resemble. Therefore I’m quite happy with that. To be fair I’d rather live life as a Christian, than part of what is no more than a large Science experiment. And if that’s the worst thing that can happen to me then so be it. Therefore personally it’s not me who requires proof. But if the burden of proof is based on rational and honest inquiry in terms of proving the existence of God. Then it’s inherently flawed as how do you prove Love and emotions and other spiritual matters using this method. The more open mindset to have is that you cannot anticipate the answer to, nor do you have an expectation for what the answer should be. As opposed to having a closed mind. Just because someone refuses to acknowledge the existence of God, doesn’t prove anything. Also it promotes a lack of accountability, in the worst case scenario a type of Godless Anarchy and the moral corruption of society. Unless this is a world you want to live in or are actively encouraging others to do (to be fair I have seen evidence of it already). You mention death. And we all die someday. Don't forget people die everyday both young and old, not all of them expected it. Actually did any? Unless they happened to be terminally ill. It's a bit morbid but the world is actually quite a dangerous place for flesh and bone. And it's not something that you can play chicken with (Although some may well have done and came out worse for it). Military conflicts, Mass and individual shootings, stabbings, bombings (suicide or otherwise), car wrecks, natural disasters, house fires, plane crashes, work / home / other tragic or freak accidents, drug overdoses, surgical complications, diseases (including preventable) / epidemics and other illnesses, starvation & hunger, exposure, drowning, old age and other health reasons, night club crushes, peacefully at home and so on. These actually happen quite frequently. But not to everyone, just some or possibly everyone unless Christ returns. RIP Lyra McKee (29) RIP Lauren Bullock (17), Morgan Barnard (17) and Connor Currie (16) RIP Ian Ogle (45) RIP PC Andrew Harper (28), RIP Hashim Kahn (37), RIP Allan Isichei (69). Also no matter who you are. You still can't take anything with you. But our lives mean nothing so what difference does it make. You say that science has proved that God isn’t responsible for the weather. Yet they still can’t really accurately predict it. Also can science explain the sound a donkey makes. Or for that matter a Cow, Sheep, Rooster, Horse, Pig, Dog, Cat, Elephant, Lion etc. Or is the answer it is how it is. Out of interest. Seeing as you are being so defensive, may I enquire what are the benefits of the non-existence of God. What is you purpose, meaning, significance and value in life. I’m glad that you seem to have it all figured out and appear happy to tell people what to do. However I may be misinterpreting you, but there does seem to be the underlying tone that anyone who has a belief in God is ignorant of perceived knowledge or of a lower intelligence. I also get the impression that it doesn’t indicate a gentleness of spirit. I prefer to live in a spirit of humble, Love and truth. Also you may have trouble selling your beliefs to people in poor countries, it doesn’t actually offer them much hope. Or those people in certain countries who are persecuted for their faith.
@Tovec8
@Tovec8 5 жыл бұрын
​@@applecorera4 *When I say Faith in Science. It means that people put their trust in educated people who claim to understand the world better.* Here's the problem, that's not really accurate. It isn't that scientists "claim" to understand the world better, it is that actually do. Science works. It reliably creates models for how things work via methods which are demonstrated to be effective. Trust isn't needed. Faith isn't needed. Science works. Scientists aren't false authorities, they are actual authorities. *Apparently scientific theory and perceived facts are now ‘gospel’.* Amazing how one can use such religiously charged terms for things which obviously do not qualify, and ironically ignore that if those terms are bad when applied to science it means those terms are bad when applied to their actual context. Put another way, you try to fallaciously equate science - the people with the facts and evidence to support their case - with religion - people who don't have anything to support their case. And you try to say science is accepted dogmatically and without challenge, except it is challenged. It just isn't overturned by people who haven't got a clue how to overturn consensus. What changes consensus is new and better evidence, not personal incredulity. *The danger is if they are too proud to admit that they might be wrong.* Again, you describe something actually true of the religious which is not at all true of scientists. Proving someone is wrong in science is how you get ahead. It is how science advances. It is how you make your name in science - by overturning what is traditionally accepted. And this is done by finding out what is actually true, which is only accomplished by _eliminating_ personal bias. Since the moment you start to inject that bias your findings will become suspect if not completely dismissed. Objectivity is the watchword in science, not personal incredulity. *You are correct in saying that I’m relying on assumed authority.* Good. Now stop it. Never rely on assumed authorities. Require your authorities to be genuine. And even then only accept what they claim so far as the evidence supports their claims. *To be fair I’d rather live life as a Christian, than part of what is no more than a large Science experiment.* Again you assume that having a preference means whatever you (fallaciously) argue for is true. That's simply not how it works. Your wish to be right doesn't make you right. In fact it more often blinds you or restricts you from accepting what is actually correct. *And if that’s the worst thing that can happen to me then so be it.* It isn't the worst thing. There are plenty of worse things that can and likely will happen to you when you accept dogmatism of religion over what science can actually show to be true. *But if the burden of proof is based on rational and honest inquiry in terms of proving the existence of God. Then it’s inherently flawed as how do you prove Love and emotions and other spiritual matters using this method.* You are admitting you do not have rational or honest basis for your belief? Good. That's real progress few theists are willing to admit. Really the question then is why in the world do you accept it? Those are giant red flags saying you ought not to believe, just as I already don't. *You say that science has proved that God isn’t responsible for the weather.* Specifically I said Zeus isn't responsible for lightning and that every indication we have says he cannot be responsible. We know how lightning works, no gods are needed and no agency is possible given all we know. We not only have absence of evidence we have evidence of absence. What was assumed to be the product of a god we now know is a product of nature and know that if a god was involved it would directly violate how that natural process works. However, yes, this largely also does apply to any other god or phenomenon. *Seeing as you are being so defensive,* I'm not defensive in the least, so you may wish to rephrase your question and possibly your entire thought process related to your replies to me. *may I enquire what are the benefits of the non-existence of God.* Let's say there are none. No, in fact, let's say there are actual penalties to non-existence of God - that wouldn't matter. Once again this question and argument is fallacious as it is an appeal to consequences. You are arguing there are benefits to the existence of God, and that doesn't matter one iota since it doesn't matter how beneficial something may be - it matters if it is true. Just like it doesn't matter how beneficial it would be in my life if I were a billionaire, the reality is that I am not. *What is you purpose, meaning, significance and value in life.* As with you yourself, those things are defined by me. You just choose to associate your value in relation to a being that doesn't exist and I actually value myself directly. *However I may be misinterpreting you, but there does seem to be the underlying tone* You are misinterepreting me. In fact you are misrepresenting me as well. You should avoid that in the future. Especially since tone is INCREDIBLY difficult to discern in text form. *that anyone who has a belief in God is ignorant of perceived knowledge or of a lower intelligence.* Not _anyone_ no. You are demonstrated to be far more dishonest, fallacious, and irrational. Can't say, yet, if you are stupid too. *I also get the impression that it doesn’t indicate a gentleness of spirit. I prefer to live in a spirit of humble, Love and truth. Also you may have trouble selling your beliefs to people in poor countries, it doesn’t actually offer them much hope. Or those people in certain countries who are persecuted for their faith.* Again your fallacious appeals don't amount to anything. The only "hope" you are "selling" is false.
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for taking the time to reply. Given that you have certainty, there doesn’t seem much point in continuing this discourse any longer, unless you really want to. It would probably serve as much point as trying to fight with barbwire. I would have replied sooner however there was a power cut. Coincidentally right in the middle of the response (Obviously as someone who is a devotee of rationality and logic, it doesn’t hold any greater significance). However I find that are far too many things happening to even put them all down to luck or chance. Firstly I wasn’t trying to discredit science as a whole. It’s just that people use it to assert their belief in the non-existence of God. ‘Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.’ Colossians 2,8 One thing that does seem irrational is how the human mind managed to eventually evolve, given the starting off point of the earliest basic life forms on earth. And to such an extent that it is apparently able to explain the origin of the universe amongst many other things. And all without any type of intelligent design. But then apparently there is also rationality in a dog chasing it’s tail. ‘For the foolishness of God is wiser than human wisdom, and the weakness of God is stronger than human strength.’ 1 Corinthians 1,25 ‘Again, you describe something actually true of the religious which is not at all true of scientists. Proving someone is wrong in science is how you get ahead. It is how science advances. It is how you make your name in science - by overturning what is traditionally accepted. And this is done by finding out what is actually true, which is only accomplished by eliminating personal bias. Since the moment you start to inject that bias your findings will become suspect if not completely dismissed. Objectivity is the watchword in science, not personal incredulity.’ In relation to the above statement regarding people being too proud to admit that they might be wrong. You actually make a very valid point and something which Religion could learn from Science. As it seems to be an issue in many of the different forms of the Organised Christian faith. ‘Intelligent people are always ready to learn. Their ears are open for knowledge.’ Proverbs 18:15 I don’t find my faith to be blinding and restrictive. It actually compels me to challenge the beliefs of this world. ‘Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God's will is--his good, pleasing and perfect will.’ Romans 12:2 As you should see from the statement below Christianity isn’t based on reasoned and logical human thinking. I believe in God, the Father almighty, creator of heaven and earth. I believe in Jesus Christ, his only Son, our Lord. He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. He suffered under Pontius Pilate, was crucified, died, and was buried. He descended to the dead. On the third day he rose again. He ascended into heaven, and is seated at the right hand of the Father. He will come again to judge the living and the dead. I believe in the Holy Spirit, the holy Catholic Church (United body of Believers in Jesus Christ), the communion of the saints, the forgiveness of sins, the resurrection of the body, and the life everlasting. ‘The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are discerned only through the Spirit.’ 1 Corinthians 2:14 Also my certainty comes from the evidence in the Bible which states: ‘For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.’ John 3,16 As you see all the evidence required is that you believe. Also it’s not through knowledge or obligation that people become true Christians: ‘Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.’ Matthew 18,3 ‘For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God's handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.’ Ephesians 2, 8-10 I sincerely apologise if I have come across as being in any way dishonest, fallacious, or an extent irrational. As a Christian my eventual goal is to exhibit the following characteristics. Selfless love, happiness, peace, patience, kindness, charity & compassion, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. However it’s still early days. Also my aim is not to sell people false hope. But to hopefully provide a lifeline for lost souls. And despite what your beliefs may be, the world would be a better place for it. Some Atheist views seem to be like that of False Teachers. ‘For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of the flesh, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error. They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity-for “people are slaves to whatever has mastered them.” 2 Peter 2, 18-19 Also given the uncertainty of life, Christianity provides a level of peace and comfort. ‘Why, you do not even know what will happen tomorrow. What is your life? You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes.’ James 4,14 Theists as you call them is a broad term which covers everybody from Christians to people who have acquired a knowledge of Christ without having him in their heart, those too reliant on the Church and those without any real faith but still attend church. Then it goes to people who are more secular, but still celebrate religious or cultural festivals etc. Whilst Atheism includes those who rely on the scientific argument, people who have become disillusioned with a certain form of organised Religion and those who prefer the idea of pick and mix moral values and an absence of accountability, to name but a few.
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@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
Just like some people don't grow up emotionally or practically. For instance they may keep on doing the same thing as they did when they were younger, maybe because it's 'Fun' or enjoyable. However life isn't a childhood game. In the same vain some people who have came to be Christians (especially when it happened at a young age). Don't really mature Spiritually in Christ. They may grow in knowledge but not in Faith. They may also grow into a Church and focus on Rituals and Religious observance, rather than Love and Truth. And view the Bible as a Rule Book instead of as a Guide Book. Have you grown into a child of Christ or 'Peter Pan'.
@NeoDemocedes
@NeoDemocedes 5 жыл бұрын
It's clear that we don't have all the answers. Just because I admit I don't know something doesn't suddenly make your explanation any less fictional. Either your claims are justified or they are not. That science doesn't yet have all the answers is irrelevant to your claim.
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
The serious problem is that it also doesn't make your argument any more valid. You're a braver man than me. Although my faith is based on the hope of something better, even if it does turn out to be the land of make believe. Your's is presumably (I don't know your personal circumstances) on the assumption that there is nothing worse. Therefore there is inherently more risk involved. Conversely, mine is a safe gamble / investment, as I don't lose anything more and it's worth the meaningless sacrifice (although some people may have to give up far more, i'm willing to take the hit). There is a countless number of people who are certain of the truth and also those who are finding out on a daily basis. The only problem is that they are either dead or have just died. And by that stage it's too late to make any difference. On a couple of occasions over the past few days I could well have ended up amongst them. Although Luckily (depends what way you look at it / also I don't believe in it either) I'm still here, although Science may have been able to save me. Stay safe. Also by the way this video isn't for my own benefit (And went from conception to completion in less than a day). It's just to raise awareness, or cause people to consider the consequences of their decisions (out of concern for their welfare). It's only in the past week that I've became aware of the whole Atheist v Christian argument, on the Kangaroo court of the internet (through a 'coincidental' chain of events). And to be fair to someone who is a Christian (only officially in the past few months). Most of the arguments made seem to be logical but 'Bulls**t' (As a direct consequence). Although technically the animals at the end of the video aren't bulls (not that there is much difference in the end product). Also their destiny is fairly certain, as in about 6 months or so most of them should be on someones dinner plate etc. Not that it's of great concern to them.
@applecorera4
@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
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@applecorera4 5 жыл бұрын
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