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@WidgetWagyu47292
@WidgetWagyu47292 6 сағат бұрын
Keegan is turning himself into a elite Starter in this league. If he can develop his iso scoring/ ball handling then we are talking about All Star potential. Sadly I don’t see it but you never know. Just glad he’s a solid contributor to my kings.
@Jaywrites23
@Jaywrites23 Күн бұрын
Great vid. I’m glad Sam could be honest about ants processing and decision making. It’s surely lacking, 52:50 Jason had a bit of rose colored lenses because Ants problem in the playoffs/olympics was missing passing windows due to taking too long.
@itzgunns
@itzgunns Күн бұрын
first time watching a podcast with you sam good work as always
@dearmas9068
@dearmas9068 Күн бұрын
Get ready for a big offensive leap this year - most of it from the peremiter.
@LeviAvstin
@LeviAvstin Күн бұрын
Funny how different the media looks at KAT now that he’s out of Minnesota.
@donaldw12318
@donaldw12318 Күн бұрын
Well done guys. Great collab. Best analysis of the trade I’ve seen.
@taylor7264
@taylor7264 Күн бұрын
As some1 who is a member of the community in comments under hoops tn, ant was by far the biggest gripe ppl had w his list.
@braxteneilert6012
@braxteneilert6012 2 күн бұрын
Kat pick and pop wont do a thing to Boston. Boston will crossmatch the hell out of them with Jrue on Kat, Tatum on Kat etc. KP can go guard OG or Mikal lol.
@jomscath1822
@jomscath1822 Күн бұрын
U do realize that KAT has a post game right? He will cook Jrue or Tatum down the block when they switch.
@braxteneilert6012
@braxteneilert6012 Күн бұрын
KAT post ups are not gonna do it in a math battle against Boston, losing 12 3pa per game from Donte is a significant loss. Brunson and KAT will be hunted on every possession on the other side as well.
@jomscath1822
@jomscath1822 23 сағат бұрын
@@braxteneilert6012 not that significant considering they are getting those attempts back between KAT and Mikal. Defensively yes Celts are great but they are going up against an elite offense. In my opinion the Knicks starting 5 seamlessly fit together and are better offensively (yes even Josh Hart at SG) than Celtics though but not by a lot. Defensively Celtics have the advantage because of the switching. The game or series will be decided thru execution, coaching and more importantly health.
@braxteneilert6012
@braxteneilert6012 18 сағат бұрын
@@jomscath1822 that offense has barely any ball handling. Brunson is gonna have to pound the air out of the basketball in that system. Simply not sustainable if he is also hunted on the other side of the ball.
@jomscath1822
@jomscath1822 7 сағат бұрын
@@braxteneilert6012the same Jalen Brunson who was top 5 in MVP last season with no second option in the playoffs and one game away to the eastern conference finals and now has KAT and Mikal? Defensively he is not Jrue but he is above average and second in charges drawn per game.
@taylor7264
@taylor7264 2 күн бұрын
Jason is good content bc he’s obviously biased. He has his favorites. His ant fandom colored his analysis on the kat trade and the ant jt convo a lot. So he’s not the most accurate analyst but he def stokes nba conversations n narratives
@taylor7264
@taylor7264 2 күн бұрын
His wemby fandom colored his analysis of rockets v spurs. Not just on this show but also on his own channel where he ranked the spurs in the top 20 teams n not the rockets. No 1 rly thinks the spurs will be better than the rockets except superfans
@taylor7264
@taylor7264 Күн бұрын
Another example: Sam asked him a question abt maxey being the key to the sixers yet doesn’t give a pro maxey take. Doesn’t continue the concept by pointing out other guys to monitor that might be linchpins as far as how this szn plays out. Instead gives an anti Joel n anti sixers take which is baiting defensive comments Great for inspiring passion around the game. But boiling everything down to the result of that first round series is not insightful
@taylor7264
@taylor7264 Күн бұрын
I’m excited for him to use more film. I think it will hold him to a higher standard of analysis. Rly loved the szn preview on the grizzlies. Good film wrk there. The other team previews weren’t that thorough but hopefully he continues to grow w the film stuff
@taylor7264
@taylor7264 2 күн бұрын
Yall understand the significance of a snake draft v a reg draft?
@taylor7264
@taylor7264 2 күн бұрын
Giannis underrated. The health thing is real. Outside of that no1 but jokic is close
@taylor7264
@taylor7264 2 күн бұрын
Yall got tatum effed up! He’s not the most elite capitalizing on an advantage but he’s elite creating one He’s GREAT at creating advantages! His size alone creates an instant advantage in the post v positions 1-3. N then there aren’t 3 guys more skilled than Tatum at his size or taller. So when matched up v 4s n 5s he has an advantage there too. All he has to do is back a little guy down or get a step on a big to create an advantage n he does that at will. If anything (relative to the best scorers) he struggles to score v the 2nd help defender n he’s not the greatest shot maker in the world so finishing is a bigger issue for Tatum although, relative to the rest of league he’s obviously elite there too
@erichua374
@erichua374 2 күн бұрын
As a Celtics and Tatum fan, the Ant Tatum debate was phenomenal and I appreciate both viewpoints. Really good stuff
@firuBR
@firuBR 2 күн бұрын
So cool to see the two of you together. I host an NBA podcast (in Brazil) and just the other day I was telling the audience the two NBA analysts I enjoyed the most were you two (I admit I forgot about ben from thinking basketball, he is also top tier). Thanks for the great content and analysis the both of you put out the whole year through. I was genuinely happy to know that you talk with each other about bbal and admire each's work. I'm here for more colabs between hoops tonight and game theory
@lorenzo3213
@lorenzo3213 2 күн бұрын
100% the Lakers are a play-in team again, no way do we finish inside the top 6. Genie is pandering to LeBron so we can have an alleyoop moment with Brony or whatever and it's a nightmare. Heaps of really average players that do nothing, and are poor shooters. AD could have historic numbers/performances but either doesn't really want to, or LeBron's presence is holding him back. So sick of this faeces the last few years, complete fn shambles
@Vertical_Gotham
@Vertical_Gotham 2 күн бұрын
JT is one of my fav analysts! Good show.
@bluechox
@bluechox 2 күн бұрын
It’s funny how randles value increased after leaving the Knicks😂😂😂
@allsuave2689
@allsuave2689 2 күн бұрын
Facts he was the worst star in history to everybody when he was on the Knicks 😂😂.
@absolutedivineNYC
@absolutedivineNYC 2 күн бұрын
@@allsuave2689he didn’t have a great record with us in the post season but most of us wanted to see how he’d lineup with this new look team we built before the towns trade came along..none of us didn’t want Divencenzo to go either but Randle for sure will be missed
@Colinkrauss1
@Colinkrauss1 2 күн бұрын
The one thing you CANT say about JT’s rankings is that they weren’t well thought out. You may hate the placements, but it’s tough to hate the logic behind each
@taylor7264
@taylor7264 Күн бұрын
i think the ant logic is inconsistent. he isnt projecting yrs forward w any1 else not even wemby. every1 else is being judged over a large sample, but jason is evaluating ant based on the small 23-24 playoff sample
@Colinkrauss1
@Colinkrauss1 Күн бұрын
@@taylor7264 I guess that’s pretty fair
@PaM07675
@PaM07675 Күн бұрын
And he also said he is assuming Ant’s hot jumpshooting in the postseason is gonna be the new normal for him, which is a huge leap considering the 2 teams he faced in the playoffs aren’t built to guard him at all (Suns and Nuggets). Ant struggles more against teams with decent rim protection like Dallas, and he struggles with double teams, something Jason way too easily glosses over. Tatum doesn’t have these issues at all
@Colinkrauss1
@Colinkrauss1 Күн бұрын
@@PaM07675 Ant has shot 37% from three over his last 183 games on high volume. Seems fair to assume he’ll be a good overall volume jumpshooter, especially if he got to go to a team with more space, which would then also help him against teams with better rim protection. I don’t find that logic to be very flawed, even if you disagree with the end result
@PaM07675
@PaM07675 Күн бұрын
@@Colinkrauss1 I’ll try to be fair because Im not trying to say Ant’s not a good shooter, I think its obvious he is a very good shooter, so Ill just make these two counterpoints for now: 1) Timpf wasnt trying to make the argument that Ant is a 37% three-point shooter from now on. He was specifically looking at his shooting splits from this past ‘24 playoffs and saying he believes that Ant will keep THOSE numbers up… 46% from midrange, 48% from deep midrange, and 40% from 3… essentially saying he expects him to be a near 50/40/80 guy from here on out because of what he did in the ‘24 playoffs, specifically in the first 8-10 games where his numbers were even hotter. Im saying to take those 8-10 games and say he can maintain that type of shooting for most of the rest of his career is a flawed argument, because when you take into account the Suns and Nuggets are the two worst rim-protection teams in the Western playoffs, and their best primary defenders for Ant was Bradley Beal and KCP, then you realize those two teams are the perfect matchups for Ant, and to expect him to keep up THAT level of shooting from now on against everyone else like Dallas was and is crazy. His two other playoff runs were also crazy hot, but again those two postseasons combined totals only like 11 games, and one of those series was also against Denver. 2) I got no issues if you want to say you think Ant is a 37% three point shooter from now on, thats fine. But that alone doesnt make him better than Tatum, nor does it make him a better jumpshooter than Tatum. Tatum’s career 3P% is 37.5%. So if Ant is hitting a new peak as a jumpshooter of about 37% from now on, that means he’s finally getting to the level as a shooter that Tatum is already at by default, which is his average of 37.5% from deep. And he has had multiple seasons shooting over 40% himself. Everyone likes to to take shots at Tatum now because he’s been on a crazy slump with his shooting, but they all go too far with discounting it in my opinion. All I’m saying is I think some people like Timpf go a little too far with their glazing for what they think Ant will be, that they get excited and rank him higher than what he is actually currently at right now at the moment. Timpf even has said multiple times now that a lot of whats factored in for him about ranking Ant this high was his projections for him and that he thinks will get better. But he didnt do that for other guys like Wemby or others. He only did it for Ant to give him a boost, without considering that someone like Tatum can also still get a lot better because he is still a couple years away from hitting his prime also. The age gap between Ant and Tatum is not wide enough to say that Ant will jump Tatum by pure potential and skill increase. But the age gap (and “playoff age”) is wide enough to give Tatum an experience-edge that is considerable. For example, Ant struggles with double teams and being decisive in such pressure situations… Tatum did also like 3-4 years ago, but not anymore. He’s grown past that, Ant still needs a couple years more experience to do the same.
@chrisstfort7
@chrisstfort7 2 күн бұрын
Been following Jason’s work for years now, so glad I stumbled upon this Sam! You have a new subscriber!
@ptyten9718
@ptyten9718 2 күн бұрын
Ya'll two of the best NBA analysts out here, keep up the good work 👌🏽
@user-bj2ug1cy9m
@user-bj2ug1cy9m 2 күн бұрын
@Sam Are you going to be doing any breakdowns of prospects with Bryce? The back and forth when you guys discuss film is great.
@ryanball4905
@ryanball4905 2 күн бұрын
I love when people underrate my favorite players bout to prove yall wrong
@rbn45
@rbn45 2 күн бұрын
Selecting Draymond to be Rudy's back-up is going to be wonderful for team chemistry
@mikemiller2509
@mikemiller2509 3 күн бұрын
I understand the analysis but I trust the moves that Leon Rose made. He has built a great team and he has added the components. Leon Rose will continue making adjustments. We have to wait and see
@ascotamos4825
@ascotamos4825 3 күн бұрын
Thank you, thank you, thank you! Everybody talkin about the Knicks but the Wolves are devastating. Just Edwards, JMac and Randle playing 25 minutes together could overwhelm offenses. Both Randle and Edwards create and shoot open threes. Randle has a lower percentage than Towns but he is not afraid to shoot it and that is what's most important. If those three mesh on Offense along with their now best bench in the League. The Wolves are much better with Randle. Oddly enough, Towns' low post defense will be the costliest thing missed.
@ac-mm3rj
@ac-mm3rj 3 күн бұрын
Watching through this and will edit to rank later, but I was playing along drafting from Pick #2. Three picks in, I took Kawhi, Jimmy, and Harden and realized I basically built the 2023 Clippers (with Jimmy instead of PG) and would get bodied by all of y'alls teams lol. Edit: The utter joy of Bryce nixing Sam's KCP pick was hilarious! I was screaming about TJ McConnell late in the draft. Glad both of y'all were thinking about him, too. I have it as Sam, Bryce, Andrew, but it's really close. I actually am curious about how Andrew's team would actually perform. My issue is Steph and Dame on defense, especially going up against Sam's team. One of them would get targeted by Jimmy or PG.
@traintrain83
@traintrain83 3 күн бұрын
If McDaniels doesn’t improve his shot this year DDV can come in and start then
@brightestfuture
@brightestfuture 4 күн бұрын
my favorite player this season. lgk he is the x factor for the 2nd team
@DeeJay_VII
@DeeJay_VII 4 күн бұрын
Andrew’s team would get destroyed my god 😭
@natashakuzmanoska9656
@natashakuzmanoska9656 4 күн бұрын
Sam, Bruce, Andrew
@JosePerez-vy3yv
@JosePerez-vy3yv 4 күн бұрын
Did you guys forget that Bridges is REPLACING Donte in the starting 5? That completely changes everything. Donte was going to get limited minutes.
@jaywang7511
@jaywang7511 4 күн бұрын
He is cp3 with Curry's shooting plus 42 inch vertical. .
@WadeArchives
@WadeArchives 4 күн бұрын
The best teams are in picture order
@TheMilitiaGuy
@TheMilitiaGuy 4 күн бұрын
Y'all underestimate how great VW will be in Year 2. They were 5th in defense when VW was on the court. Spurs will win 45+ games if everyone stays healthy. CP3 avg a dbl-dbl playing 30mpg. They
@HumbertoDelaHoz-ky6gc
@HumbertoDelaHoz-ky6gc 4 күн бұрын
THE KNICKS ARE CHAMPIONSHIP BOUND 🗽
@16colena
@16colena 4 күн бұрын
Finch's biggest complaint with the offense last year was when the ball got "sticky" which was mainly Ant and KAT. So even if Julius is sticky with the ball, I think it will be at least similar to last year. Finch also got a lot out of Kyle Anderson at the 4 next to Gobert, and Julius is a better shooter than Kyle. Will be interesting to see how Finch incorporates Julius.
@anthempt3edits
@anthempt3edits 4 күн бұрын
I think Sam just barely edges out Bryce for the win, but I do like Bryce’s team a lot. Andrew’s team is unique.
@grapeape1965
@grapeape1965 4 күн бұрын
Hawkins for Mitch is an absolute joke of a trade lmao. Mitch for a lottery pick hahaha. even if he was fully healthy his ass wouldnt be traded for anywhere NEAR that. WHat are you even talking about that and acting like you're doing the math etc... Now Knicks fans will get online and act like they can get that deal. Same as they did with the damn tre murphy absolute joke
@25chrishall
@25chrishall 5 күн бұрын
Almost certain Randle's gone by the deadline. Something not a lot of people are talking about. Worst case scenario you flip him for expiring money and draft capital. When you look at the framework as Towns for Divcenzo + 2ish 1sts, it's an awesome deal.
@devxplayerdevelopment
@devxplayerdevelopment 5 күн бұрын
Andrew’s team waxes everyone.
@martyc1960
@martyc1960 5 күн бұрын
How long before ESPN "copies (steal)" this idea? I give 'em until the end of training camps before a version of this appears.
@grantmitchel2810
@grantmitchel2810 5 күн бұрын
The more I think about it the more I like it for MN. Added depth and added shooting with DeVince. Also think it makes them more versatile with small ball lineups with Randel at the 5 and Jaden at the 4. Plus more minutes for NAZ!
@TheOceanMan-xc7qp
@TheOceanMan-xc7qp 5 күн бұрын
Scoot/Sharpe will emerge this season
@pheralanpathfinder4897
@pheralanpathfinder4897 5 күн бұрын
I like this trade for both sides. The Knicks were desperate for a center. The Wolves gained depth. I think both teams are better positioned for a playoff run.
@razzworld1
@razzworld1 5 күн бұрын
Randle taking bare minimun 45 million. U guys are nuts
@RithsonClervoyant
@RithsonClervoyant 5 күн бұрын
what about mikey williams ???
@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952
@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952 6 күн бұрын
Gobert useless & can’t guard elite centers they had to go with kat in the playoffs verses Nokic
@comp10-t5o
@comp10-t5o 6 күн бұрын
When Sam said he saw KAT's tweet "..." and underneath the tweet I thought he was going to mention the Knicks fan who replied to him "I hope you don't be a b*tch in the garden" hahahaha
@jyuret370
@jyuret370 6 күн бұрын
Listen. I get most of the criticism with having to include Donte in the deal. Plus a pick. I and other people obviously know how important he was to the team. Mans a cold blooded SNIPER. He will be missed. But with hartensteins exit, uncertainty surrounding not only Julius’s health but his contract situation and potential fit, Robinsons obviously poor track record regarding health. They felt like they had to make a move to maximize this teams potential to WIN A CHAMPIONSHIP. Obviously not a gamble they were willing to take. How many players of Kats ilk are available? Don’t over complicate it.
@pimpnamedslickback7780
@pimpnamedslickback7780 6 күн бұрын
First objective take i've seen on this trade. Everyone is acting like the knicks got embiied or giannis. KAT is mid at best on defense and is too inconsistent on offense
@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952
@kwamemaatranyame-mentuhote9952 6 күн бұрын
So why KAT had to guard Nokia in the playoffs Gobert is overpaid & limited
@isaiahjackson1211
@isaiahjackson1211 5 күн бұрын
Literally NO ONE is acting like that, he is however the best shooting big in the league