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@astridmiller7938
@astridmiller7938 12 сағат бұрын
with all the nu lite over the decades...when is WT/GB going to get it right? do jw's ever think when things become more concrete or is nu lite a permanant fixture?
@jeffnoble9757
@jeffnoble9757 13 сағат бұрын
for a guy trying to get the point you sure beat around the bush, wasn't the rapture supposed to happen in 1844-1845?.. in the 1970s hundreds of churches SOLD bumper stickers saying "warning rapture soon this car will be driverless"50 years later NO rapture! Online you can buy a book "the late great planet Earth" by Hal Lindsey(1970) and it says the Bible teaches Armageddon will happen in 1988, but hypocrites never mention these false prophecies
@johnnyruins9025
@johnnyruins9025 19 сағат бұрын
Great story thanks for sharing uncovering all the jw bullshit.
@billjones261
@billjones261 21 сағат бұрын
The top leaders of the JWs (GB) know the value of money $$$ for they get their health and dental care paid for by the WTS, the cars and their insurance paid for,. food and shelter, they don't even have to clean their own accommodations ( sisters do that ). They get to use the swimming pools and tennis courts at Bethel HQ, they get to travel around the world paid for by the WTS and when they arrive they get treated as adorn celebrities, signing bibles etc. The core reason why these men lied so much and made themselves into money making false prophets running their own publishing house (WTS/JWorg.) was for their own power and sustenance, unfortunately they lured people toward their own inherent sins, causing thousands to die and broke up millions of families in the process The fact is the GB men of the JWS made Dfing (1950's) to expel people who would put question to the doctrines (lies) these men made ., The core doctrines of the JWS is saturated in false prophet apostasy mostly due to adhering to the foolish theology of the Freemasons (Pyramidology) Selling the return of Jesus (1874,1914) was too much of a commodity these self opportunistic charlatans running their own publishing company couldn't let go, they had literature to sell and proliferate.
@billjones261
@billjones261 21 сағат бұрын
The top leaders of the JWs (GB) know the value of money $$$ for they get their health and dental care paid for by the WTS, the cars and their insurance paid for,. food and shelter, they don't even have to clean their own accommodations ( sisters do that ). They get to use the swimming pools and tennis courts at Bethel HQ, they get to travel around the world paid for by the WTS and when they arrive they get treated as adorn celebrities, signing bibles etc. The core reason why these men lied so much and made themselves into money making false prophets running their own publishing house (WTS/JWorg.) was for their own power and sustenance, unfortunately they lured people toward their own inherent sins, causing thousands to die and broke up millions of families in the process The fact is the GB men of the JWS made Dfing (1950's) to expel people who would put question to the doctrines (lies) these men made ., The core doctrines of the JWS is saturated in false prophet apostasy mostly due to adhering to the foolish theology of the Freemasons (Pyramidology) Selling the return of Jesus (1874,1914) was too much of a commodity these self opportunistic charlatans running their own publishing company couldn't let go, they had literature to sell and proliferate.
@davidwicklin9943
@davidwicklin9943 21 сағат бұрын
Or go to college or university - for decades discouraging higher education as "satanic" or "immoral" or "dangerous".
@jackijax505
@jackijax505 21 сағат бұрын
Resets, mudfloods, Tartaria. Dates are actually meaningless. Especially since the calendar is incorrect & most history is all just indoctrination.
@lj8428
@lj8428 Күн бұрын
I believe Charles Russell studied Greek and had Greek tutor. If you read Studies in the Scriptures, he uses and explains many Greek words.
@TheC.O.-VISIT
@TheC.O.-VISIT Күн бұрын
@@lj8428 way back in the day, Russell was put on trial. Under cross examination he claimed to have been given the ability to understand Greek. When asked what certain words meant, or if he could recite the alphabet, he said he could not. I don't doubt that he perhaps studied other works or had a tutor, that certainly didn't give him the ability to interpret scripture which is ancient Greek. The New World Translation has consistently made abysmal interpretations and translations of scripture, purposefully to fit the Watchtower Society's doctrines, all of which have been proven false over and over again. The trial of Russell, the fallacy of 607 B.C.E., the failure of 1914 and the generation, (among many others) are all out there for you to study and research. Nothing is hidden or secret. If you really want to open your eyes and learn the truth, then do it.
@lj8428
@lj8428 Күн бұрын
@TheC.O.-VISIT Russell was wrong about a number of things, 1914 was one of them.
@ElleRenoCoaching
@ElleRenoCoaching Күн бұрын
Whoop there it is! 🎉
@TheC.O.-VISIT
@TheC.O.-VISIT Күн бұрын
@@ElleRenoCoaching Thanks so much for sharing it, Elle! You're the best!
@ElleRenoCoaching
@ElleRenoCoaching Күн бұрын
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@adamantiumbullet9215
@adamantiumbullet9215 Күн бұрын
Truth does not fear investigation. This is why JWs don't investigate anything.
@adamantiumbullet9215
@adamantiumbullet9215 Күн бұрын
Watchtower published a two-part series in 2011 (Oct and Nov editions of Watchtower) attempting to prop up their untenable 607 date. My favorite part of the article in the Nov. 1 issue was this footnote: *"Note: None of the secular experts quoted in this article hold that Jerusalem was destroyed in 607 B.C.E"* In other words, in an article intended to prove the 607 date, WT couldn't find one expert that agreed with them. LOL. From Carl Olof Jonsson's refutation of these articles: "The two articles in The Watchtower of October 1 and November 1, 2011 continually reflect the contents in Furuli‟s two books. The two articles seem clearly to have been written in co-operation with Rolf Furuli. Most readers will not be aware of this, nor will they be aware of the fact that both books have been thoroughly refuted in articles and reviews published on the web and elsewhere. This means that most of the argumentation in the Society‟s two articles has already been thoroughly refuted. Most of the following examination of the two articles in The Watchtower therefore summarizes what has already been published elsewhere."
@BEMBOLASTIK
@BEMBOLASTIK Күн бұрын
Amén you are not an apostate … 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@adamantiumbullet9215
@adamantiumbullet9215 Күн бұрын
Kingdom Halls are filled with apostates, and JWs happily embrace them because they apostasized from their former religion to become a JW. However, JWs despise people who *leave* WT by the same method. It's a double standard, but without double standards JWs wouldn't have a religion at all.
@wanttowakeup2024
@wanttowakeup2024 Күн бұрын
Hi Colin, great video topic once again. You are so right, that if Jerusalem wasn't in 607 BC then the 1914 year is wrong. It;s so easy to see from doing personal research. I tried it myself by going to Google and type in what you mentioned and it is right there to see for everyone. It's amazing why more witnesses don't type this in for themselves and see that they've been lied to. Although, they keep beating around the bush now, by having the organization teach them that, they are now living in the last days of the last days. This way, their brothers and sisters, just keep on hanging on and keep on obeying the GB. if only people would do research and read and study everything for themselves. Thanks for the video!
@RC-so1mm
@RC-so1mm Күн бұрын
at 5:15...WHY? "Why were the Bible Students only given that declaration to sign when they were in the concentration camps?" I always thought it was because they were NOT devout catholics, jews, homos, gypsies (roma), communists, and other undesirables...since they were NOT any of the above, they had a choice...(great video, by the way)
@johnc.mitchelljr.2716
@johnc.mitchelljr.2716 Күн бұрын
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@okhuibutala1640
@okhuibutala1640 Күн бұрын
Jw 607 bc but Jewish Rabbi Tovia said that 568 bc Governing Body was wrong 😅 They are teaching false doctrines Governing body is not in the Bible either just like Catholic religion
@joanjohnson5973
@joanjohnson5973 Күн бұрын
If they ever give in to this they will tie it up in a fancy sparkly bow and say" new light new light, it the time that the anointing closed 1935. 😂
@TheC.O.-VISIT
@TheC.O.-VISIT Күн бұрын
Yeah, then opened back up again when the end didn't come...again 😂.
@John-oi8mt
@John-oi8mt Күн бұрын
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@justinporter458
@justinporter458 Күн бұрын
The book of Proverbs or Ecclesiastes? Says that....,,He that increases knowledge increases pain ,, and if your right Collin ? and you are Collin it is 586 or 587 BCE and not 607 BCE ,they lose that promised pet Panda, their jw family and the hope of living forever on a Paradise Earth and be shunned by their own flesh and blood .People would rather believe in a happy Delusion than face up to the cold realities of life ,my beautiful wife Nicole is a prime example ....It's easy to fool people but harder to convince them that they have been fooled .Mark Twain 1835 -1910
@justinporter458
@justinporter458 2 күн бұрын
Imagine if the Governing Body owned up to this deliberate mistake , It,s 1934 brothers the middle of the depression not 1914, we forgot to carry the 2 so it,s your mistake brothers !
@John-oi8mt
@John-oi8mt 2 күн бұрын
They also believe December 25th is Jesus birthday!🤔🤣😂🤦‍♂️
@TheC.O.-VISIT
@TheC.O.-VISIT Күн бұрын
@@John-oi8mt They don't, and secular and religious sources know that December 25th was made up, too. Watchtower needs to come clean as well and align with the rest of the world and admit that 607 B.C.E. was also made up.
@ScottLawson-uw1fh
@ScottLawson-uw1fh Күн бұрын
@@TheC.O.-VISIT interestingly the calculation of Jesus being born on December 25th goes back to early Christianity and not paganism. So it's not founded on paganism but Christian tradition.
@helenhollis3984
@helenhollis3984 Күн бұрын
​@@ScottLawson-uw1fhThose same calculations point to Mary being of the age of 12 years old. This is not the flex you think it is.
@ScottLawson-uw1fh
@ScottLawson-uw1fh Күн бұрын
@@helenhollis3984 for one why would my statement be a "flex"? And secondly there is no way to determine the age of Mary through calculations. If you have some sort of schema to calculate her age then let's see it.
@Eddy-Edmondo
@Eddy-Edmondo 2 күн бұрын
I found out immediately after the baptism in 1996. But simply underprinted. There was no internet back then, so I couldn't do any research.
@ScottLawson-uw1fh
@ScottLawson-uw1fh 2 күн бұрын
God appointed Nebuchadnezzar as king over the earth and Israel and the surrounding nations were to be subject to him for 70 years. The 70 years were not 70 years of Jerusalem laying in ruin but of Israel being under Babylonian/Chaldean authority. This period of 70 years ended with the destruction of Babylon in 539 BCE so the start date would be in 609 BCE. So if we were to accept a 2,520 year period that corresponds to gentile domination it would have ended in 1912 CE. Which actually would give time for a war to break out in heaven and the WW1 to be a result of Satan's ouster. As it is currently held by JWs WW1 breaks out on earth first in August of 1914 and then in October of 1914 Christ is appointed as king in heaven and the Michael and Satan and their angels battle in heaven and Satan is thrown down to earth having great anger. So if I wanted to keep a 2,520 year period of gentile domination over God's kingdom using Bible Math Magic that's how I'd calculate it.
@TheC.O.-VISIT
@TheC.O.-VISIT 2 күн бұрын
@@ScottLawson-uw1fh Yeah, except none of that is true. You're still reasoning from Watchtower literature. Try again?
@ScottLawson-uw1fh
@ScottLawson-uw1fh 2 күн бұрын
@ What did I say that is untrue? Please be specific
@ScottLawson-uw1fh
@ScottLawson-uw1fh 2 күн бұрын
@@TheC.O.-VISIT Here's Jeremiah 25:8-12 for your perusal. It lays out what I recounted that the 70 years are for Babylonian domination of the region (and the known earth): Therefore thus says the LORD of hosts: Because you have not obeyed my words, 9 behold, I will send for all the tribes of the north, declares the LORD, and for Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon, my servant, and I will bring them against this land and its inhabitants, and against all these surrounding nations. I will devote them to destruction, and make them a horror, a hissing, and an everlasting desolation. 10 Moreover, I will banish from them the voice of mirth and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom and the voice of the bride, rthe grinding of the millstones and sthe light of the lamp. 11 This whole land shall become a ruin and a waste, and these nations shall serve the king of Babylon seventy years. 12 Then after seventy years are completed, I will punish the king of Babylon and that nation, the land of the Chaldeans, for their iniquity, declares the LORD, making the land an everlasting waste. - ESV
@ScottLawson-uw1fh
@ScottLawson-uw1fh 2 күн бұрын
I also said that Babylon was destroyed in 539 BCE. Is that not true? That's a hinge date that is established by academics. So clearly not everything I said is untrue. Please be specific with what it is that I said is untrue.
@TheC.O.-VISIT
@TheC.O.-VISIT 2 күн бұрын
@@ScottLawson-uw1fh I've done my own research from secular, historical sources. I suggest you broaden your horizons and do the same. The correct date is 586/587.
@daisydoo1177
@daisydoo1177 2 күн бұрын
This is a great topic. This is the exact thing that hooked me back when I first started to study in the 80’s. I am a person who loves solving riddles, “conspiracy” truths (not theories), and mathematical equations. I have Asperger’s. High functioning autism. These are your hard core researcher type people and computer geek types. Anyway, back in the 80’s, there was no internet to explore. I thought I had stumbled onto the biggest discovery ever. So, back about 20 years ago, I was watching a documentary on this subject on the History channel. They stated it was in 587 BC. That struck me odd but my JW default immediately dismissed it as Satan trying to misinform people so they would not get the truth. Then, as red flags started hitting me in recent years on various discrepancies and started thinking and examining things with a more open mind, I then still doubted because I still trust the Bible and reasoned that the 70 weeks or years of Babylonian exile prophecy was messed up if the date was 587 instead of 607. Then, I realized that the Jews today consider that the 70 years ended at the completion of the rebuilding of the temple which was not 537BC but rather 517, making that prophecy true after all. JW changed it by 20 years to make the mathematical equations work! It was a HUGE OMG moment!! When the GB started telling the members to stop believing in conspiracy theories and stay off the websites discussing the 🩼 in 2021, I was very irritated because I saw so many lies in main stream news and attempts to censor people on social media during Covid. Angered me and I stopped watching their videos and monthly broadcasts and eventually the magazines. It’s unbelievable how their brainwashing can blind your eyes. Like Pharoah’s magic practicing priests. And Moses and Aaron putting them to shame with God’s miracles. Each plague woke up more and more people. Even the Egyptians were seeing it. That’s sort of how ex members are causing the organization deadly plagues, waking people up with proof to expose them on the internet. It’s kind of like the ex members are delivering the “hailstone message” to wake people up, lol.
@ricklee5802official.1Rope_fan
@ricklee5802official.1Rope_fan 2 күн бұрын
Yes i agree, JWs are brain dead. They would believe the moon was pink if looney lett said it was.
@TheC.O.-VISIT
@TheC.O.-VISIT 2 күн бұрын
Even if you count from 607 B.C.E., Russell was such a dimwit he didn't take into consideration that there was no year zero, so his date from his calculations would have been 1915. Still, nothing of what he predicted happened. The end was supposed to come in 1914, it didn't. When that failed, the "kingdom being established and Satan thrown out of heaven in 1914" was the first ever "new light" in response to a failed prediction. Thus began Watchtower's custom of creating new light every time their doctrines fail or expire.
@philpoulos572
@philpoulos572 2 күн бұрын
All that time talking about fulfilled "prophecy". Foretelling the future, aka "prophecy" is just one aspect of magic. Other aspects are appearance, disapperrance, penetration, transformation, resurrection, and a few more. v The point is, its all an illusion, there was no magic then, there is no magic now, and there wull not be any in the future. It is an illusion. No curses, no witches, no resurrections, no demons, no fireproof skin , no flat earth.
@heatherwillson4862
@heatherwillson4862 2 күн бұрын
Exactly! And something that struck me is that the christians of Jesus' day had every reason to believe that he was talking to THEM. Did they see his phophecies come true? How many CENTURIES, how many MELLENIA have to pass before it comes true? Then when you add on all the CRAZY future faking phophecies of WT that are more recent, who even wants to be there? You will still be under their tyranical thumb & even have to live where they say & be happy about it! The promise used to be that you would be free to live the life you were born to have in paradise.
@TheC.O.-VISIT
@TheC.O.-VISIT 2 күн бұрын
If you're wondering why I said Babilonia several times, that's Babylon in Spanish. It just came out! 😅
@adamantiumbullet9215
@adamantiumbullet9215 Күн бұрын
I thought it was because you drink cawfee 😁
@TheC.O.-VISIT
@TheC.O.-VISIT Күн бұрын
@adamantiumbullet9215 😆
@cindyjohnson7883
@cindyjohnson7883 2 күн бұрын
Thank you, good sir! Your Humanity & gracious Kindness. Challenging to realize that part of your Foundation is built on LIES. Be Kind to Anyone experiencing this pain.
@AlanGeorgeBates-oj9zr
@AlanGeorgeBates-oj9zr 2 күн бұрын
Get back to who ? Who do the Jehovah's lying witnesses think they are just grow up stop lying tell the truth if that what you say you are .
@Mercipher21
@Mercipher21 2 күн бұрын
If the JW's are still defending CSA, they clearly haven't watched the Australian Royal Commission. That woke me up hard and I couldn't ignore the truth about "the truth" after that. That case exposes so much more than just the CSA issue. How Geoffrey Jackson and all of the elders, elder lawyers, Branch Committee overseers, C.O. that just blatantly lie about so much, and that was 10 years ago. So much more has happened since then. The Shepard the Flock book is disgusting. I don't understand how you can be an elder and still be a good person. Elder - “There’s been a situation reported where a child has been sexually abused, what should I do?” Governing Body - “Immediately contact the legal department to see if you are required in your area to report it to authorities. If not, then fill out the form, send it to the Branch Office, and destroy any record you have of the case of abuse.” Elder - “Someone vandalized the Kingdom Hall, what should I do?” Governing Body - “Call the police immediately so they can start an investigation.” 🤔
@wanttowakeup2024
@wanttowakeup2024 3 күн бұрын
Well said! Amazing video! Of course they want everyone in the KH, because the longer these people in California stay away from the KH the less money goes into the contribution boxes. They want people to get back to the KH so they can put any extra money these poor people who lost everything may have to put it into the contribution boxes. Its exactly like you said, they don't care about people's financials, only that they get back to meetings. If they really wanted to help these people, why don't they spend a few billions of dollars swoop in to California and help all these poor people who lost everything and help them build their homes and provide for their daily needs and more. That would be the love of Christ, that is what true love it!