Christianity is a psyop down to its bones. There is no argument to be had.

Did the Roman historian claim to be God. There is not much riding on the validity of many documents in comparison to the new testament.

The title of the debate was a poor choice. Hoax implies a willfully planned and executed plot to deceive. That is much more loaded question when the simpler, more straight forward question is was Jesus God. It is accepted by mainstream scholarship that some of the letters of Paul that made it into the bible are forgeries. The first four gospels were anonymously known with name applied decades later. In some ways this makes the biblical accounts of Jesus a hoax. This does not answer the important question was Jesus God. For those that believe no proof is required. For those that don't believe, like myself, no debate is going to change minds.

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Jesus was (and is) one of the biggest hoaxes EVER. It pisses me off to think that I fell for it for most of my life.

What a load of hogwash the apologist said. A manipulative mix of random half truths and omissions. Poor the people who fall for that kind of deception.

Some people want the truth, and others are more comfortable with religious delusion.

I can't believe how foolish Skrbina is! This thesis that Paul invented the Jesus "hoax" is totally bogus! At its best, it's a completely outlandish revision of history! First of all, Paul was a devout Jew. He hated Jesus, whom he thought of as a false of Messiah, and he wanted nothing more than to eradicate the Christian movement. This much is clear from Paul's own testimony in Galatians 1:13-14 and is also corroborated in Acts 8. This definitively proves belief in Jesus existed long before Paul so Paul couldn't have invented the so-called Jesus hoax. But suppose it didn't. Why would Paul, who was a devout Jew like the disciples, invent the Christian religion? Why would he abandon Judaism? The answer that Skrbina gives, namely that Paul and his friends wanted to overthrow the Roman empire by corrupting/converting the masses, is utterly unsatisfactory. Firstly ... Skrbina offers no evidence in support of this motif - merely conjecture. Secondly, there are a plethora of strategies Paul could have used to distabalise Rome without forsaking his cherished Jewish beliefs, so why would he! Thirdly, as a Jew, who prided himself in his ... practice of Judaism, we know Paul would never elect to become a false teacher, which is what Skrbina wants us to believe, as he knew YHWH's punishment for false teachers. But the nail in the coffin of the Jesus hoax theory is that Paul and many of the key disciples, viz. Peter, James, Jesus' brother, and James, the son of Zebedde, were willing to suffer persecution and died martyrs for their belief in Jesus' divinity and resurrection. This proves that they sincerely believed Jesus was the Son of God who had risen from the dead and weren't just making it up. The evidence for this is undeniable from the writings of the early chufch fathers, Tacitus and Josephus. In the words of renowned Testament scholar CRAIG KEENER: “People of course die regularly for beliefs that are false; they do not, however, ordinarily die voluntarily for what they believe [or know] is false." Liars make poor martyrs.

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Your guys fucked up brains are hoaks. Oh how you guys will answer on judgement dai.

These religious cults 😂. So why do Jews believe that jesus was just another prophet since they invented their god?

I’d love to hear the Christian guy’s explanation of all the other religions. Either they’re really true or they were contrived, but his can’t be. The mental gymnastics 😂

I wasn't raised Christian, I learned this later. David is lying, 99 percent in the room are raised, yeah right dude.

One thing to point out that Peter misses, is that Paul did not write these messages by himself! So, David is assuming also (which he himself forgets to point out) that Paul wrote the messages, forged them, lied about them, faked them, all by himself. Which is not the case! David is actually assuming Paul had a big group, Timothy, Silvanus, so many others that helped him write these, and lied together. Highly improbable. I would like to hear his response because I already know, David will bring a harsh, skeptical, and circular argument. God Bless.

Believers believe it's what they do. Christian dude got whupped.😂

dude in the beginning is wearing a stellar sweater. so beautiful

Myths have truths that cannot be directly revealed to the characters in the dream.

hahaha Jesus never lived? 99% of the world's scholars believe Jesus lived. Most scholars just laugh at "tabloid" theorists who think he did not.

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Well,Paul ,according to traditional narrative was a tentmaker ,hardly an elitist business...just saying,,,

What a load of shite....may God forgive u all.....no evidence jesus existed 😂😂🤣 duh ok then....bible also says no to listen to men and men would try and change his word 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

1:25:21 A dude that believes in miracles and an afterlife thinks the Jesus hoax hypothesis is "highly improbable"...

It's a heck of a lot easier to wrap my head around the hoax than it is to wrap my head around myths and miracles.

Blessed Homer Iliad is older than the hebrew bible all it and its 1000 years old or 900 bce or prior set unlike the torah/tanak or oral tradition start of tje tanak or hebrew bible.

Mark is not 70 mark is really 80 to 85 CE. Matthew is 105 CE Luke and Acts are 125 CE or later John is 135 CE. Also p52 is really 155 CE. First of paul's very very unholy wicked letters is 1thessalonians and that is 53 CE.

Neither 1 of these guys know what they're talking about. They both seem to think the gospels were written by Jesus' apostles. Jesus' apostles were fishermen from Galilee. It's highly unlikely these men were educated. They spoke Aramaic, not Greek. The synoptic gospel writers were educated Greek speakers.

Dr. Williamson shot down his own view when he cited the entire context of Christianity (It was all God's plan). Is that the best God could come up with? Compared to the Christian narrative, the Hoax theory is MUCH more believable. 🤔

JESUS Probably NEVER EXISTED...MYTH!

Some people are very attached to the Jesus Business and after all you can't inform or convince someone who's paycheck depends on him not understanding. If god or jesus were real, there would be no need for apologists.

Is Jesus (Isa) a HOAX? YES seems obvious the New Testament Jesus is a hoax. Not the OT messiah for one. Biggest swindle ever.

Is mass murder all over the world the sign of god’s love?

God only knows.

"dominion over all nations" nation = goyim

God forgot to send a scribe to take notes of his sons life Right yep I got a bridge to sell you cheers

There’s been sadness, sickness and death well before the modern times. So, you can’t say modern “immoral” lifestyles have caused these things.

the evidence for harry potter casting spells is startling.....everyone at hogwarts saw it.

the people who wrote the bible are unknown...wtf are they talking about

the new testament is a hoax.

Masters' degree in theological studies = Masters' degree in fairy-tales!

The bible has lost Jesus's lost years at the age of 12-29. Can anyone tell his whereabouts during his lost years?

I'm an adult, so I don't believe in talking serpents and women who gave birth without having sex. A Hoax, however, implies that there was a malicious intent to scam and defraud people to gain something. The early Christian movement had very little to gain other than being thrown to the lions in the Coliseum or be blame for setting Rome on fire. That people believe in stupid stuff, yes. The new Mega Churches are a Hoax and a Scam. But a lot of religious people are decent, traditional, honest people.

The Christian god Jesus is Satan the devil and he is not coming back Christians worship Satan with a human sacrifice of Jesus to Satan You’ve been deceived Repent accept jahovah and do good works

Anybody wondering whether God is our creator and Father as well as whether Jesus is our savior and redeemer and the Holy Spirit our counselor and witness to the saving grace of Jesus, don't worry, you'll find out 100% for sure.

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Paul Saul was a drug abuser simple

Why did Jesus ie god not clear all this doubt at the time He didn’t because he couldn’t because he was never there

I vote Jesus was a hoax

Peter Williamson’s livelihood depends entirely on the views he expresses. He can not afford to change now. .

For the Jews the oral testimony of 2 reliable and actual witnesses is enough to establish truth. So during the early days of Christianity, the oral testimony of the living Apostles was sufficient. The Gospels were written down decades later because the eyewitnesses to Jesus' life. death, and miracles were growing old, so they felt compelled to write down their accounts before they died. Dr. Skrbina's theory that it was all a hoax because of the lateness of the text is really weak. Also, the Apostles died for what they KNEW was the truth. Why would they risk everything to defend a hoax? Between St. Paul and Dr. Skrbina, I would think St. Paul is more honest and reliable.

Is a big hoax because are missing a lot of historical proofs,like in all religions.The big question is why they perpetrated this big hoax during 2 millennia with what PURPOSE? Trying an answer......Could it be that every religion was created that a few people rule over so many