@@georgettewolf6743 30mm mk108 not 40mm

@georgettewolf6743 The Jumo 109-004b engines easily passed the reliability test for acceptance into RAF and US Army Air Force. The same materials are still used in jet aircraft today.

That is a popular myth. It was only the early engines that melted fast. Later in WW2 the Germans began using chrome alloy steel and the engines ran for 100 hours. Keep reading the comments below and it is explained quite in detail by other commenters. Thank-you though for your comment, I appreciate all discussions. If you read all the comments on this video, it is quite interesting and very appreciated.

Actually, Germany invented high temperature creep resistant alloys, Krupp P-193 Tinadur~60 was introduced in 1932. It was developed for the world's first production gas turbines, the BB&C Velox core gas generator which was demonstrated in Berlin Germany the same year. A severe shortage of Nickel forced Germany to switch to a Chromium based alloy called P-198 "Chromadur" Chromadur is still used in jet and gas turbine engines today and is currently sold by ArcelorMittal as A286 alloy..

Me too

Excellent comment -very true!

Phantom is uglier though, Voodoo has nice lines. The high mounted T Tail while good for straight line stability, restricted the angle of attack and certain manuvers.

Most German war equipment was scrapped for the metals. Europe was scavenged through the 1950's for aluminum because the newer aircraft of the jet age were all much bigger. Demand for refined metals was at the same premium as during wartime. Thanks for your comment

Try to find an BF109T , its the fighter Version for the graf Zeppelin.

Fiseler fi 167 an biplane similiar to the swordfish, was intended before the stuka for the graf Zeppelin. Its rare too less as 20 built.

One thing for sure is the research for this airplane had an unlimited budget. This is the one that has been at Chino for many years

My pleasure! Thanks for your comment!

Aero Turbine Inc in Stockton California. They can make anything.

The Jumo 109-004B engine was PFTR rated for 100+ hours Same as RAF and USAAF engines during WW2..

*Huey Lewis in the background

Exactly

Thats the Genius of the Messerschmitt Me-262... it ran on COAL which Germany had in plentiful supply.

Yes. We are a bit worried that this collection is heading to Arkansa. Rumour has it some one in the Walton family fancies an entire town of museums. All kinds of museums. The Waltons happen to be from Arkansa btw. Super rich people love philanthropy and charity stuff because the dollar value aggreed upon is then used against their income. It's a nifty way to have bunch of cool stuff and avoid paying income tax all at the same time. The museum moving rumour can be somewhat fueled by Stu not giving any statements to the public in the four years since he bought Pauls collection. We are left to our own thoughts.But gosh he has a cool Corsair...

Arkansas * use your spell checker, man

Its not a British aircraft

Its only had five owners and it kept the original paint throughout the fist three. Luftwaffe, USAAF and Ed Maloney. Paul sent the airframe to England for restoration about twenty years ago. It would have been done right. It got sent to Arlington where it was assembled and tested a bit. Then it was taken apart and trucked to Moses Lake where it was put back together test taxied. It needed work to the fuel system so it was taken apart and trucked to Everett where it is today.

There was no standard pattern for camouflage. Camouflage patterns were applied in the field and varied by unit and also changed for the season of the year

Thank-you for the comment. Excellent information.

Thanks for the comment

@@DoktorBayerischeMotorenWerke the one indisputable fact about allied aircraft was they ran on 100 octane fuel, rather than the lower grade synthetic petrol available in Germany. So I’d say the airframes and engines were roughly comparable, but the American fuel allowed higher compression and more power from slightly smaller displacements.

@@sullivanrachael I'm afraid you point is completely moot. Jets don't need high-octane gasoline. The advantage of the Me-262 is it ran primarily on jet fuel made from coal oil. the other advantage is the engines were multi-fuel rated and could run on whatever fuel was available... including OZ-74, (85 octane unleaded gasoline).

@ - very true. The jets didn’t need high grade fuel, but like all other parts of the Luftwaffe it was resource starved. Alloys for the jet engine were limited in supply and meant short service to overhaul life. The Luftwaffe needed fuel in quantity for training and delivering supplies to the airfields. It needed trained pilots. The critical lack of fuel starved the force. Arguably the brilliance of the aircraft designs were ruined by politics - such at Hitler demanding the 262 was able to drop bombs. This meant it didn’t enter service when it should have done. It meant the Me109 stayed in service to the war end, and the lack of fuel and decent lubricants meant the 109G was barely any more capable than earlier machines.

@@sullivanrachael That is not true, Jumo successfully made the switch from Nickel based stainless alloys to Chromium based alloys in the B model and restoring the TBO life to 55 hours... better than Allied high output piston engines. As is often incorrectly cited, the A models made without Nickel never saw operational service or production. they were only prototypes. Thus, the advantage of the jets... it solved many of the problems you mentioned. And they other unmatched performance, The Allies had absolutely nothing comparable to the Me-262... Nothing. Certainly entered service more fully developed and produced in significant numbers. Allied jets lacked development and performance and were not available in large numbers. They also never shot down a single Luftwaffe plane, a huge waste of Allied resources and a benefit to the Luftwaffe... Allied jets only killed allied pilots during WW2. The Me-262 was not intended to completely replace all propeller driven fighters, the Allies retained prop fighter after the war as well. Yet the Me-109 was the most successful fighter aircraft in history... no other fighter has ever shot down more enemy aircraft than the '109'..

Interesting, thank you for your comment

Also, it's amazing how "small" it looks compared to the modern stuff. These things were the B-52's of their day!

That is incorrect, the Jumo-004A engines made with Krupp P-198 Chromadur alloy NEVER saw production or operational service. The 109-004B engines are PFTR rated to 100 hours continuous at 100% power. The testing conducted by Operation LUSTY confirmed that combat TBOs averaged 55 hours, better than Allied piston engines. Any questions?

Yes, what was the combat TBO of a Merlin in a Spitfire or a Mustang?

@NormansChannel 25 hours was a typical TBO is Combat operations, the use of WEP in the Merlin engine was particularly harsh and required internal inspection of the engine with a borescope including replacement of the spark plugs every time it was used. Aircraft could not return to service until these inspections and repairs were completed. Crew chiefs checked the throttle gate lock strip after every flight and grounded the aircraft if the lock strip was found broken.

These are genuine original engines from WW2. They were overhauled to original specifications. This plane has not flown since restoration, the owner died before completion.

Yup. It hasn't flown since 1945. It was taxing under its own power in 2019 but not since.

Glad you enjoyed it!

That's a very popular but completely false urban myth. The Messerschmitt Me-262 has very reliable engines and passed the same 100 hour PFTR reliability requirements as Allied aircraft. Any questions?

Actually these engines were made with Krupp P-198 Chromadur alloy, the high temperature, creep resistant Chromium based stainless alloy which is still used in jet engines today. What made the Jumo 109-004B engines superior to Allied jets was the use of Germanys more advanced thermal management technology. The 109-004B was the first jet engine to feature hollow air-cooled turbine blades and TBCs (ceramic thermal coatings) in the hot section. Features found in all modern jet engines.

Thank you for your comment

Ironically the GE J85 engines you mentioned were designed by German Gerhard Neumann and his team of engineers from Jumo. The J85 was developed using exactly the same Chromium based alloy that was used in the Jumo 109-004B engines. It's the German inventions of hollow air-cooled turbine blades and TBCs that make modern jet engines possible

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All Me-262 engines were started electrically from a starter switch in the cockpit, the rope starter is only used as an emergency backup system. Any questions?

@@WilhelmKarstenwhy did the chicken cross the road?

@@dustinspivey2519 because Chickens can't fly son... they walk!

Don't forget his contribution to finding the wrecks of WWII era warships with R/V Petrel (tho the shipwrecks are considered "war graves" they are being stripped or "mined" in the Pacific Ocean) r. i. p. Paul Allen - may his memory be a blessing

You got lucky. She might never run again. The new owner has not said anything to the public about what he will do with this collection. For now it is viewable in Everett Washington.

​@@NormansChannel I saw it under final assembly in WA during a business trip from NZ, incredible machine. I also strolled past a hangar on the way to the workshop, the roller door was up and there was a JU88 wreck on jacks ! never heard what happened to that , this would have been around 2012 I think ..

They had every intention of flying it.

But she was gearing up for war again. XD

The United States Army grabbed up all the best examples and the poor brits were left with whatever scraps were left over Operation LUSTY and Operation Paperclip were massive and extremely well funded programs, the British did not have the same resources that the Americans did