You cannot wake up in hell. There are no bodies in hell at the moment, only souls Your soul is fully conscious in hell. The body will join the soul in hell after the General Resurrection of the dead. People go to hell by their own free choice. They hate God so much they would rather suffer in hell than to be with him for all eternity. Hell is the state of eternal "Self-Exclusion" from God.
@maximusvonce13812 сағат бұрын
" It doesn't take great faith to save you, but the faith of a mustard seed. What did Jesus say. " If you have faith as a mustard seed, and you say to that mountain be cast into the sea, it will obey you" Lord Jesus Christ
@maximusvonce13812 сағат бұрын
" If you believe in Me, you will never die" Lord Jesus Christ
@maximusvonce13812 сағат бұрын
Watch Siberian hellsounds. They dug to hell. Its real. But you can avoid hell if you say this prayer with even the smallest faith of a mustard seed, God will save you. Dear Lord Jesus Christ please forgive me of all my sins past, present, future. I repent and give my heart and soul to You Lord Jesus Christ. I accept You into my heart and believe that You Lord Jesus Christ died for all my sins and rose again forevermore. Please come into my life and be my Saviour and Lord for all eternity, and make me a Born again child of the Living God, and fill me with Your Holy Spirit forever and ever in Jesus's Holy name i pray amen. If you prayed the above prayer and believe and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and He died for all your sins, you now have eternal life and are going to Heaven for all eternity..
@maximusvonce13812 сағат бұрын
God demands you believe in His holy Son Lord Jesus Christ, who died for your sins and rose again. He commands you to believe. If you don't then you die in an unregenerate state with no Saviour and no forgiveness of sins. You send yourself to hell because God has commanded you to believe and you refused. " Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, you and ALL your household, and you will be saved" Lord Jesus Christ
@marvelstark37976 сағат бұрын
Matthew 16:18: "And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it" this means that the Catholic Church is the only faith that can trace its roots back to Jesus Christ. and the Roman Catholic Church can be traced back to the life of Jesus Christ in Roman-occupied Jewish Israel around 30 CE. the Catholic Church considers itself a continuation of the early Christian community established by Jesus's disciples is a universal body of believers that teaches, sanctifies, and governs. It's considered a continuation of Jesus Christ's work on Earth. that means the early christians, and the disciples of Jesus are part of the roman-catholic church and celebrating the eucharist as commanded by Jesus.
@CrusaderOne948 сағат бұрын
God is Holy, Righteous and has a zero tolerance for Unrepentant sin. One must be changed, transformed, regenerated and ultimately Chosen by God. who are we as sick, disgusting and totally depraved individuals to decide if we can be in Gods Kingdom or not? We don’t decide because God has already made those decisions of who will be in His Kingdom and who will perish. God made the righteous for His Kingdom and Eternal Fellowship and the wicked for the day of destruction. Do not think you have “free will” to chose Christ because if you do you are self deceived. “You did not choose Me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit, and that your fruit should remain, that whatever you ask the Father in My name He may give you.” John 15:16 NKJV
@CrusaderOne948 сағат бұрын
This is Real preaching. I feel the conviction of the Holy Spirit. I needed to hear this. God, Adonai I’m unworthy of You, please forgive my sin and sickness. May psalm 51 be my plea to You.
@James-l3h8h9 сағат бұрын
Believe the gospel that saves; 1st Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV
@melchorcorreo68229 сағат бұрын
One holy Catholic apostolic Roman Church 33AD in Israel , the true church of Jesus Christ.
@charliego73759 сағат бұрын
Hello Jim I’m a Catholic and I’d like to know if the Bible tells us where we can find the truth? I’ve watched so many videos like yours and some of you guys have the same objections but some agree with the Church’s teachings. Is there a verse in scripture that points us to the truth?
@NarrowPathDoctrine9 сағат бұрын
I'm not sure what more I could say than what verses I pointed out directly in reference to much of RCC teaching and practices. This video was not completely comprehensive either. There are many other things wrong with the RCC. At the end of the day, the things that were pointed out in this video should be enough to seriously question the teachings. I wish I could say more, but anything that was pointed out in this video should be enough to show you the RCC is false. It's man-made religion from the pope to sacrificing Christ over and over again each service.
@charliego73758 сағат бұрын
@ 1 Tim 3:15 tells us that the Church is the pillar and foundation of truth. Now the question is what church is Paul talking about? I’ve seen the biblical historical and archaeological evidence that supports the claim that Jesus started the Catholic Church so my question is what church do you belong to and who started it? Can you trace your churches foundation to Jesus?
@JohnSmith-ug5ci11 сағат бұрын
Let us not be fooled! We do not want to be one of those who will be turned away on that day when men stand before God. The way is narrow, and the road is straight, and FEW be that find it. Matt 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Fath which is in heaven. Verse 22 MANY will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? Verse 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matt 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and FEW there be that find it. Our sin has set us all on the road to hell and no amount of good will fix the sin we have done. We have ALL sinned. It is not about the type of sin or how much sin. It is about the fact that we have sinned. For that reason we all need a Savior. If we want forgiveness for our sin and peace with God. If we want to escape eternal hell. If we want to go to heaven we must understand the following. We DO NOT get saved (go to heaven), get right with God, forgiven, by being good, by being religious, by just believing in God, by praying a prayer, being baptized, asking or accepting Jesus into our hearts, accepting Jesus as our personal Saviour, confessing our sins, joining a church, cleaning up our lives, doing penance, taking the bread and the wine, or doing all these things accumulative. Salvation is a gift that is given to those who repent and come to faith. Eph. 2:8 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. Salvation takes repentance toward God and faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, Acts 20:21. testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ. Make no mistake. We cannot be a friend of Christ and remain a rebel against God. The word repent, from the Greek word "metanoia", means a change of mind or direction and that change is about our attitude towards God. God is not receiving those who almost or kind of repents. It is like the word About-face which is a 180-degree turn. We turn from not wanting God fully in our lives to willfully surrendering to Him to lead our lives. When any person comes to the place where they are broken over their sin toward God to the point that they want to get right with God no matter what it will cost them they are in a state/spirit of repentance toward God. Luke 14:33 So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple. We then take that willing heart we have towards God and place it on the Lord Jesus Christ as Lord and Master and that becomes faith. At that moment God's grace through Christ is freely applied to us and we are born again, saved from eternal hell and sealed by the Spirit so that we will never again return to the practice of sinning. 1John 3:9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's[b] seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. v.10 By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother. Our first command after salvation is to be baptized. Repentance of sin is the result of the new birth/salvation and will be part of the sanctification process and our new life with the Lord Jesus Christ, Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them. While we may sin from time to time after salvation it will never again be our practice 2Cor. 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. 1John 3:9 No one born of God makes a practice of sinning, for God's[b] seed abides in him; and he cannot keep on sinning, because he has been born of God. 10 By this it is evident who are the children of God, and who are the children of the devil: whoever does not practice righteousness is not of God, nor is the one who does not love his brother. John 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. REV. 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
@jimvenable825312 сағат бұрын
The Bible provides the answer clearly in John 3:19. It was a choice between darkness and light made freely because we have free will. Period.
@NarrowPathDoctrine15 сағат бұрын
Many comments here not aligned with Scripture. This explains what happens upon death clearly - www.gotquestions.org/immediately-go-to-hell.html
@Dave4Now16 сағат бұрын
I think this is wrong. You won't wake up in Hell. You will wake up for the judgement or maybe just before. It says he will cast the judged into hell. The enemy is chained in the pit for now along with the fallen ones. That's why Paul says know ye not that we shall judge angels? The righteous will judge those angels for their iniquity along with all of man.
@tomsmith258717 сағат бұрын
Abandon all hope, ye who enter here.
@Yeshuasheeps19 сағат бұрын
RCSproul is in hell currently, as he didn’t believe in OSAS, he was a feebleminded, unsaved, works righteous, unregenerate devil.
@johnflorio357620 сағат бұрын
The Catholic Church was all there was between 33AD and the 1500s. You’re saying nobody was saved between the time of Jesus and the time of Luther. That’s insane.
@veredictum4503Күн бұрын
"Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you." John 6:53. Actually, many other verses in John 6. Now since you Protestants have no valid priesthood (because that needs Apostolic Succession + not excommunicated status), no belief and no doctrine, therefore you DO NOT have eternal life. Jesus' own words, not mine. You can prance around all you want with bible, bible, bible, but without consuming the Real Presence - real Communion, not Arnotts crackers and grape juice - you have NO LIFE. 1 Cor 11:27 does not make sense if it is crackers and grape juice. But it makes sense if it is the REAL Body of Christ and sin blasphemes it. But rather than debate endless, go research the 152 Eucharistic Miracles that not only prove the doctrine of Transubstantiation, by those miracles God is practically yelling at people "it's true and real; come to church". The latest of these is Poland, the earliest 8th century in Lanciano. Many (not all) relics still on display and can be viewed. Not all, because of wars, crusades, iconoclasts like Protestants destroying things. So you want to talk about false religion? 40,000 denominations all arguing with each other, when Jesus Himself prayed for unity, and said "He who hears you, hears Me". And the power to bind and loose is not ropes, but doctrine. Wake up right now while you can, or keep prancing around in your pride and wake up in hell.
@jesscatangay9384Күн бұрын
You are just picking verses that suffice your agenda there are 73 books and thousands of verses that it will lead to the truth.
@CryHardBabyКүн бұрын
Another false prophet channel attacking the one and only church of jesus the RCC. Pro Deo et Ecclesia✝️🇻🇦 Mark 13:22 "For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect".
@Leonardo-ts5onКүн бұрын
The ignorant are those who doesnt understand the Catholic doctrine the son of satan are those who resist the priest like thier father satan. Zachariah 3.
@Leonardo-ts5onКүн бұрын
One Judas doesnt defile the entire Jesus ministry. Now out from your cult bible butcher.
@paulmitchell2916Күн бұрын
Thank you God for my Catholic faith.. I have met so many saintly people in the Catholic Church.. very few amongst the Protestants. That's because Protestants don't have the wonderful aides to growing in holiness that God has provided for us.. that is the sacraments and the intercession of saints in heaven, especially Mary the Mother of God. And of course we Catholics 100% believe 2 Timothy 3:16. But we don't see the word "only" there. That's because it isn't there.
@jvill79Күн бұрын
EXACTLY! Our Protestant brothers and sisters have sadly cut themselves off from the deepest relationship one can have with the triune God and the spiritual world. It’s like the difference between swimming in a kiddie pool vs the ocean.
@johnflorio357620 сағат бұрын
Amen!
@bandai760218 сағат бұрын
Protestants are the lost sheeps led by their forefather Martin satan Luther.
@HaroldShipleyКүн бұрын
Ecclesiastes 9:5 "the dead know not anything". NOBODY wakes up in hell. There is no burning hell. When you are dead you simply do not exist anymore.
@waholoopesorry74Күн бұрын
Just the recent events and words that the pope has spoken is enough for me to know that if he is the head of the RCC and he is a false teacher, then there are some issues there
@dansworld9635Күн бұрын
What, with that "well thought out logic" Apostle Peter should have killed it by denying Jesus 3 times over two thousand years ago. 🤦🤔
@waholoopesorry74Күн бұрын
@ there’s a difference between ongoing sin and falling into sin at a moment in time. The Pope has repeatedly proven to be a false teacher for many years
@jesscatangay9384Күн бұрын
They hate the Pope, but the World follows the Pope, Pope Julius I declare Christmas day on December 25 obviously for the Catholics only, but the whole Christianity celebrating it on that day even the Protestant and other denominations follows. Pope Gregory 13 change the Julian calendar where April 1 is the New year's day, where Protestant behemently opposed to Gregorian Calendar in 1582 where January 1 is the New Year's day again supposed to be for Catholics only but the WORLD FOLLOWS IT AS OF TODAY. POPE DAMASUS in 382 AD calls for the COUNCIL OF ROME for Compilation of all books 73 spiritual Canon into 1 book known as the Bible, now the WORLD reads The Bible in its simplest precise compact but in various versions. Protestantism was founded in 1521 when Luther left the Church. Can you imagine just a CATHEDRAL Notre Dame De Paris completed construction in 1260 much much older than the all others man made Christian denominations how much more the Catholic church itself when it is founded. I thought you may start to pick a date when to celebrate New Year and Christmas day, Start reading the Bible in 66(Protestant) separate books.
@waholoopesorry7421 сағат бұрын
@@jesscatangay9384 I don't celebrate Christmas so theres that
@TimMcClelland-w9xКүн бұрын
Well done - well said / was saved by the grace of God several years ago from the false RCC. I pray they receive the Spirit of Truth in order to discern the wisdom of God. Thank you for spreading the gospel. God bless you.
@marvelstark37976 сағат бұрын
Matthew 16:18: "And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it" this means that the Catholic Church is the only faith that can trace its roots back to Jesus Christ. and the Roman Catholic Church can be traced back to the life of Jesus Christ in Roman-occupied Jewish Israel around 30 CE. the Catholic Church considers itself a continuation of the early Christian community established by Jesus's disciples is a universal body of believers that teaches, sanctifies, and governs. It's considered a continuation of Jesus Christ's work on Earth. that means the early christians, and the disciples of Jesus are part of the roman-catholic church and celebrating the eucharist as commanded by Jesus.
@mikelyons2831Күн бұрын
Unfortunately, R.C. is a self admitted Calvinist believing/teaching God only loves some in a Salvific sense. That's not biblical.
@NarrowPathDoctrineКүн бұрын
Actually, it clearly is biblical. You may have found the wrong channel brother.
@mikelyons2831Күн бұрын
@NarrowPathDoctrine No the mission & purpose of God sending His Son was/is to redeem everyone that will & CAN call upon Jesus to deliver them from the sting of death caused by sin. Only rescuing a pre-chosen elect few would give 👿 more souls after his hoodwink-bamboozle in the Garden. It is narcissistic & cult-like (besides poor hermeneutic) to teach Isaiah 1:18, 45:22, Matthew 11:28, John 1:7, 1:9, 1:29, 3:16-18, 12:32, Acts 17:30-31, Romans 5:18, 10:11-13, 11:32 2 Corinthians 5:18-19, 1 Timothy 2:3-6, Titus 2:11, Hebrews 2:9, 2 Peter 3:9, 1 John 2:2 & Revelation 22:17 are only to/for a special favored pre-selected elect few & no one else... when there are no/zero disclaimers preventing forbidding restricting anyone from calling upon Jesus in those passages. Yet, those that follow John Calvin-ism will obfuscate & manipulate those to the under-discipled & sometimes dupe them into believing "God only irresistibly rescues a pre-chosen mysterious elect, all others will get the wrath they deserve for God's egoic glory". So sad, such an evil false gospel.
@waholoopesorry74Күн бұрын
Did God love Esau or Pharoah in a salvific sense, or were they created for wrath and destruction? Answer me please
@mikelyons2831Күн бұрын
@@waholoopesorry74 Romans mid-9 is not about individuals being arbitrarily pre-selected to salvation or pre-reprobated to condemnation. Read the passages Paul is pulling from. Read the purpose of the letter/Epistle (1:16, then repeated several times 2:24, 3:9, 3:22-25 & 29-30, 4:9-13. Read Paul's conclusions of mid-9 starting in 9:30-10:4. Then 10:9-13 (how to be saved, all can be saved). 11:32 (mercy upon all) 12:3 (the measure of faith given to everyman... even faith the size of a mustard seed can get someone saved... because God is not willing any perish, but rather wants all to come to repentance). Paul reiterates salvation has come to the Gentiles via the Jewish Messiah/Root of Jesse in 15:8-12... again without any disclaimers of it being only to/for a pre-chosen elect few. I must admit, Calvinism's teaching of only a pre-selected special favored elect will be irresistibly regenerated sounds flattering if you believe you are in fact one of them. But unfortunately, this false gospel has divided churches, families, even marriages.
@CrusaderOne948 сағат бұрын
Walk in your own deception.
@michaelduffyjohn318Күн бұрын
I agree 100%. If you had the time, I recommend the Third Adam series by Spencer Smith on KZbin. I think it's Third Adam 2 or Third Adam 3 he talks about the Catholic Church (he made 4 of them, all of them are good). By the way, Jim, I just love your teachings. Thank you very much for all you do!
@NarrowPathDoctrineКүн бұрын
Thank you for the kind words. The encouragement is much appreciated. 🙏🏻
@Ryan_NathКүн бұрын
church of Babylon
@nacionaltv.3356Күн бұрын
are you a protestant it means, you is a protestant forever. where can you find the rich priest, but all pastor collecting 10% must become rich
@mariosangermanoКүн бұрын
I was born and raised RC. I came out of It at 18 years old. I'm 61 now. I have a ministry that speaks out against the RCC. In all my years of study for the past 20 years on the RCC what strikes me the most Is, 1. The vast Ignorance of RC theology and doctrine most catholics have. 2. The vast Ignorance of many protestant churches who are Ignorant of the RCC and think they are brothers and sisters In Christ. 3. The vast ignorance of church history by both sides.
@classicalteacherКүн бұрын
I was raised anti-Catholic. I praise God that I converted to Christ's Holy Catholic Church. There is no salvation outside the Catholic Church because Jesus Christ is the head of the Catholic Church and there is no salvation outside Jesus Christ. Everything in the Catholic Church points to Jesus Christ. God has always had a hierarchical priesthood to lead His people to right worship of Him. Jesus founded His Church to lead His people to right worship of Him.
@somemedic8482Күн бұрын
You couldn't have said it any better.
@somemedic8482Күн бұрын
@@classicalteachernope
@halffull5384Күн бұрын
Why dont you show us in His word how he had an heirarchical priesthood. Also, this video literally went through the points as why the RCC is wrong. Why dont you point out what is false in this teaching according to the Word of God. @classicalteacher
@mikelleonardi12 сағат бұрын
@@classicalteacherwonderful response The Catholic mass is heaven on earth
@jeffersonrundell75402 күн бұрын
"The anger of The Damned knows no bounds." Think of that: the rage of The Damned increasing and increasin g throughout eternity, never reaching a final peak of burning RAGE!
@philtheo2 күн бұрын
I think these are the scariest words in the Bible, they are spoken by Jesus to people who believe they are true believers... 😱 "I never knew you. Depart from me, you lawbreakers!" (Matt 7:23)
@NarrowPathDoctrine2 күн бұрын
Extended version of this song and video out now here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bovUf2uDlqZ3bJIsi=NdJnCxr01XDbLwEq
@TrustintheSon12 күн бұрын
Yeah, people waking up in the hell would be devastated…Isn’t this the guy that says that all of these visions of Jesus meeting people are false because there can’t be any Revelation apart from the book of revelation?
@bebetter95962 күн бұрын
If you end up in hell, it's not because of what you've done. It's because of what you've failed to do.
@Greiciunas1Күн бұрын
Both, actually.
@CrusaderOne948 сағат бұрын
Repentance is key
@NarrowPathDoctrine2 күн бұрын
This is something brand new I am trying out on the channel. Please let me know if you enjoy this type of content or not. Any feedback, good or bad would be appreciated, as it will continue if people are interested. I noticed so far the view duration is quite short, even for a video that is only just over 2 minutes long. If you prefer to provide feedback privately, my email address is in the description for the video. Thanks.
@GeertAndringa-vr1pv2 күн бұрын
Bunch of rubbish People are not in heaven or in hell. They are a sleep. David is not in heaven he knows nothing he is a sleep. Lazarus was is not dead he is a sleep. The little girl was not dead the was a sleep. The bible translated the gehenna,sheol,and hades tattarus into hell that why our bible is mest up. Investogate the sleep.
@tyronelivingston672 күн бұрын
Maybe you need some sleep?
@ZachBroom2 күн бұрын
Wrong
@philtheo2 күн бұрын
1. What you're saying is just the old falsehood of "soul sleep" in contemporary guise. It has been disproven exegetically and theologically. 2. Besides, even if soul sleep is true, that does not mean hell is not real and eternal. Even if all we did was "fall asleep" when we die, we will still be awakened at the last day, and stand before God, and we will be sent to either heaven or hell based on whether or not we repented of our rebellion against God and trusted in Jesus alone.
@jeffersonrundell75402 күн бұрын
You have to be a JW. The 144,000 are Jews, and if you are not born again you will not see The Kingdom of God.
@speedchaser499123 сағат бұрын
@@tyronelivingston67 maybe you need to follow the true Jesus and not that fake Jesus Christianity pushes!
@Phil-oy6mw2 күн бұрын
This is different 🤓
@NarrowPathDoctrine2 күн бұрын
Different bad, different good?
@Phil-oy6mw2 күн бұрын
@NarrowPathDoctrine Different as in I'm not used to it lol
@NarrowPathDoctrine2 күн бұрын
You don't have any devotional apps that you use on a daily basis? I just wanted to do something like that but in video form.
@Phil-oy6mw2 күн бұрын
@@NarrowPathDoctrine I'm too busy following channels like yours 😇
@Ryukuss2 күн бұрын
thank you Jesus!
@amylott42493 күн бұрын
Already stuck. :) Nice
@amylott42493 күн бұрын
You wrote all of these?❤️
@NarrowPathDoctrine3 күн бұрын
Yeah, this one is my fav. Love that line "with each step I find the light" 😁 Thank you.
@NarrowPathDoctrine3 күн бұрын
@amylott4249 I tweaked and directed, but no, I didn't write all the lyrics. The lyrics in this one are way better than what I can write 😂
@amylott42493 күн бұрын
@@NarrowPathDoctrine don’t say that! That sounds like me though. 😂 But don’t say that! You can do anything. Don’t forget. :) So grateful for your channel. Thanks for it.
@amylott42493 күн бұрын
@@NarrowPathDoctrine ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ I love that line too.
@christiantruther93674 күн бұрын
It's a good thing no Born again Christian will wake up in hell. Amen, thank you Jesus for the finished work of the cross! (KJV), Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."
@speedchaser499123 сағат бұрын
But! they will wake up in the Wrath of God!!
@Phil-oy6mw4 күн бұрын
I imagine some of these folks will be mad at themselves for denying the obvious due to the burden of proof....
@NarrowPathDoctrine4 күн бұрын
WARNING: This song is super catchy. Listening a couple of times may result in the song getting stuck in your head.
@larrnew5 күн бұрын
Jesus said it would be better that you never knew me than to turn away from me!
@larrnew5 күн бұрын
Totally false unbiblical doctrine from the pits of Hell!
@NarrowPathDoctrine4 күн бұрын
Guess Jesus was teaching a doctrine from the pits of Hell as well huh? Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. - John 5:24
@larrnew5 күн бұрын
So if you choose to sin and then go to Hell… then it’s Jesus fault??? Are you that stupid?
@scottsinger2735 күн бұрын
Yes I'll go with that, I love the writings of Calvin and the Sovereignty of God but I don't like the word Calvinism! Hey thanks!