Despite these tactics, approx. 25% of United Methodist local congregations have succeeded in disafilliating from the progressive bullies. The percentage would probably be much higher if it weren't for the tactics.

100% of the Bible is inspired, inerrant, infallible. God's Word is not a cafe menu where you get to choose what you "think" the writer meant to say. Black and white ... sodomy is an abomination (gross sin); women are not to be leaders over men in the church and to keep quite; pastors are to preach the GOOD NEWS [Jesus died for the sins of HIS flock, rose in 3 days, and we can be His if we REPENT and follow Him as LORD] as read from the Bible - not BLM / DEI / not social justice / not name it and claim it / not tongues / not health and wealth / not good works will save you. The UMC has been transformed into a "cult" of sodomites by their Bishops and pastors.

An empty church doesn't have much value today. Maybe the membership could all leave and meet in another church building or meeting place and later come back and buy it at its true market value.

Our friend is a retired Methodist minister who just got a letter saying that since he is now retired and attending a different church he will no longer receive his pension. Is that true?

When you let religion rule your life and make you a hater, it's time to give it up and stop being brainwashed by ignorance.

Arbitrary tyranny is the prime reason I was never a Methodist.

Is it too late to disaffiliate from the UMC? We submitted our disaffiliation letter. I was told it was too late to disaffiliate by our local bishop.

When you focus on Old Testament "sin awareness" instead of Jesus' love and charity awareness, young people refuse to become members since the "fear factor" is non-existent for them. The fear of "going to hell" as a basis for "running to Church" requires ignorance and a person who is basically fearful. Young people are basically not fearful people. They require intelligence, charity, and total acceptance of all peoples when they join a church. The present Methodist problem is strictly a "middle-aged" - "old-aged" situation, not a "young" person problem! I think God is "thinning out the non-Jesus people" in the church. Acceptance of gay people is a critical issue for the present church and it is my belief that the "new Christianity" will happen because of this issue!

The issue of "women pastors" makes this dispute ridiculous! We are not living in the 1800's or the early 1900's when women couldn't even vote. For the United Methodist Church to allow this ridiculous turmoil of an issue that was settled long ago shows the fact that the Methodist Church considers their constitution and even their total focus on the Old Testament more important than Jesus! The ultimate focus should be: "What would Jesus think!"

* FACT * Every denomination that has gone "welcoming & affirming" has lost churches & members. * Reason * The Bible believing folks have grown tired of seeing the verses stretched & twisted like a rubber band to make certain sinful lifestyles acceptable. * Remember * Jesus stated "Go and sin no more" NOT "That's okay, we'll lower the standards". * Prediction * The historic church denominations that have lost their scriptural way will continue to lose members {example: United Church of Canada}, while the local churches who have not polluted the Bible will gain members and impact their communities for Christ.

Has this issue been officially voted on yet???? How can the UMC require churches to “pay to leave” when the UMC is not upholding the other rules in the Book of Doctrine? If the official vote for/against LGBTQ clergy has yet to be held at a UMC General Conference, how can the UMC denomination already be considered as “progressives” and the traditional/conservative member/churches have to “accept” it or leave? I feel like I may have missed a piece of this puzzle. Someone please explain. Thank you.

I am done with organized religion. The amount of lies and deception with both sides makes me sick.

Spiritual splits are not the question here it's the splitting of church properties.

Shame on all you quitters. What about your vow? WWJD I ask. Not what you quitters have done.

"Enjoy" these calming articles, voices of reason, while in a bit of testy situation!

PCUSA is a vile and wicked organization holding churches ransom for the money they can gouge.

Why is it that everyone who rememebers the 5-6 admonitions in the bible about Same Sex anything dont seem to remember the 40-50 places where gluttony called a sin. What a bunch of fat hypocrites.

It's unfortunate that there are situations in which churches believe they need legal representation to disaffiliate. This law firm has the right to offer these services to churches and to promote their services. I am concerned, though, that in some cases, churches have retained legal counsel without trying to negotiate in good faith with their annual conference. Churches have the right do retain counsel, but should do so only if good faith negotiations fail.

In terms of percentages, how many churches (nationally) have left or disaffiliated from the UMC? As of Jan 1, 2023. Does anyone know?

when you don't follow the Word of God, this outcome is inevitable.

So "Thou shalt not steal" can be gotten around too. When the ungodly are allowed to lead. When the historians get around to chronicling the history this period in Methodism, people won't be able to believe the tactics of the UMC.

I've never understood how the parent denomination can think they own the local churches property. If the local church bought it, paid for it, and maintained it, it's the locals property. They should be able to leave any time they want. That is reason #1 why I won't attend a Reformed denomination.

We hold title deed to our property united methodist doesnt why cant we leave when we want thats the.way we joined

What steps to protect the Church property?

I am assuming, since it is not mentioned here, there is really no way to keep annual conference bishops from taking whatever they like? How did we end up with leaders like this?

Bishops cannot stop Methodists dissatisfied with UMC from becoming Biblical Christians.

Those leaving UMC should consider becoming Biblical Christians, because in doing so they can worship God at any time and in any place (John 4:23-24). No denominations or their buildings needed.

This whole thing is all about the money, and it makes me sick.

I wonder if "exigent circumstances" allows for bad faith. Serving UMC corporate is not necessarily connected with serving God. Does that matter to the bishops?

Methodists unhappy with UMC can become Biblical Christians and worship God and fellowship at any time and in any place without a denomination or their buildings.

The Methodist are full of liars and false teachers they will find out in the end. I feel sorry for them, for they will truly know what fire and brimstone are. They are truly evil.

These big mainstream " churches" are nothing but cookie cutter institutions.Theyve forgotten their first love.

So the denomination has become so instituted that it's more interested in politics rather than following Jesus and biblical principles.

What is going to happen to methods children homes ???

Question is how did the conservative or should I say traditional church who won every vote get the 💩 end of the stick. Why aren’t we giving the orders.

"Progressive" bishops are causing church members to leave or not contribute money thereby allowing those bishops to close Jesus' churches one by one. Satan's work is being accomplished by this method.

So, it’s okay for some liberal bishops and leaders to ignore the voted-on laws in the Discipline, but the churches who want to leave have to obey the laws? Sounds a little bit like anarchy and hypocrisy.

Which states are you more likely to be successful exiting out of using 2548.2 rather than 2553?

The Wesleyan Church is the 2nd fastest growing church in the world. Come join us for real worship.

I won't donate anymore of my hard earned and fixed social security income to a denomination that denies the deity and holiness of God. That is the whole point and focus of my worship and the umc took it away.

Yep. The bishops get richer while the few faithful left in the pews can't afford gas in their cars, groceries and healthcare insurance. Shame on you greedy ppl. You've turned the house of God into a mockery of money changers that Jesus will run out with a whip.

2548

Just leave and become independent. People are the church. Bishops and bureaucrats can go and take a running jump. Without the people the Bishops and bureaucrats won't get paid!

Penny cost

Gave up on the UMC many years ago when I saw that it is just another money machine.

You can't go against the word of God, and enter the kingdom of heaven. Scripture is against the LGBTQ lifestyle, it's written plain as day thesolonians example.

The churches that are leaving are homophobic. The split is about LGBTQ exceptence. They wouldn't have to leave if they would love and welcome everyone into the church. Stop try to do God's job. It's up to God to judge people. We are not supposed to be a respector of persons. We are not to guard the gates of Heaven. We are to go into all the world and preach the Gospel to everyone.

Our church has disafillated with UMC....UMC IS headed for DESTRUCTION

One good thing to look forward to---> The Great White Throne Jugdment when these corrupt, disgraceful "Methodist Bishops" will have to stand before Almighty God and give an account for their actions, closing churches and selling church properties to pay for their lavish salaries and pensions. Now we know for sure. It was never about scripture. It was always about power, popularity, wealth and lording it over the flock. It would be better if they had a millstone tied around their neck and were dropped into the sea.