Don't have access today to my records. But from what I recall, Colin, this is the place & the part that I had sent to me from Italy. xrayparts.it/en/cz-75-sp-01-spare-parts/2621-cz-75-sp-01-shadow-wide-safety-ambidextrous-type-3-zendl.html No fitting was needed - just a plug-n-play replacement. And FAR better than the too-thin-from-factory thumb safety CZ ships with - the only real flaw for the gun stock. Just check for sure with X-Ray that part will fit (as I did with them, given I'm not 100% certain that's the EXACT one I bought) with the TS2O first before ordering. Good luck ! Cheers !

That's great to hear, Lees. I'm very glad that you've had (and many others have) good reliability with the S15. As I stated very clearly - it really does shoot fantastically soft & accurately & manageably for such a small-barreled pistol (and it's a beauty too). That's why it was really upsetting to part with it. But mine ended up (and it seems more than a few others too) developing a steady 2% failure rate (chambering and ejecting), and that's just too much for a true defensive, tactical (car) gun. I have 300 rds thru the Kimber - and will do another 300 rd session in a few weekends ... and then officially reporting back to you. I hope your A.F. keeps running like a sewing machine - and your experience with her continues to be fantastic for a long time ! And yes, Antimatter or other, I have a gas pedal / thumb rest on every one of my pistols. Thanks for watching (and I hope subscribing). I have some good ideas for upcoming content. Happy New Year ! Cheers !

I completely agree !

They are indeed, Chris ! And extremely well made - and so shootable - and quality thru & thru. Exactly why I am such a Bul aficionado. I hope you checked out my Bul vs Staccato video - very applicable to this convo ... and think you'd like a lot of what I'm putting out there ... so hope you subscribe. Which Bul are you about to "try out" ? Much appreciate your Christmas comment ! Cheers !!!

@ yes my good man I did sub. May i suggest have you tried the steel frame Walther pdp. I am curious on what you thought of that if you have tried one not quite as Boujii as bul but lets face it bul should be the standard that everyone else tries to achieve

@@chriscarlisle499 Hi again, Chris. THANK YOU for being a subscriber - MUCH appreciated & trying hard to bring you some kick-ass content over the coming months !!! As a subscriber (and per what you just wrote me) please see my video about the PDP Pro's - the only one I've ever made about striker-fired pistols. I've been (since shooting the PDP 4" F-Series Pro) trying very hard to get my hands on a 4.6" or 5.0" PDP Match SF to compare it to my CZ TS2O & Bul Radical (appropriate comps) - but have so far been unsuccessful in that venture. Will definitely keep trying & it's pretty cool that you brought up one that I've had my eye on for awhile now. Cheers, my friend. And MERRY CHRISTMAS !

Thanks a lot for commenting, 2aGunGuy ! Much appreciate your commentary & recommendations ... and good ones at that. Definitely would have gone with the DWX compact, but really didn't want to spend that much on a purely a car gun. If you want to see what I ultimately did ... on my channel, I made 2 subsequent "Car Gun Quandary" videos that brings you up to speed in how my car gun journey developed. And my latest video (out just last weekend) gives you the full & final conclusion to how it all finalized. Hope you watch & enjoy. Happy Holiday & all my best to you ! Cheers !!!

@ awesome man looks like you went with the Kimber 💪. I have held one never shot one but am sure it is great from all of the great reviews it gets...enjoy!

@@2agunguy5 Thanks a lot, but. Like getting your informed approval - appreciated ! First shooting impressions video coming out soon. Now I'll go check out your channel 👍🙏. Have a great rest-of-weekend & HAPPY HOLIDAYS !

Thanks for commenting, Chris ! Yeah - I'm really psyched about picking up this KDS9c Rail. I've spent about 30 minutes just handling her (racking, triggering, gripping, safety-ing, checking grip angle / sighting) & I'm overall very pleased with the fit and perceived quality. Seems damn good / very fine for the money spent. Now for the more important part - shooting her a good amount, and getting to know her particular feel, muzzle rise, return to zero, and handle-ability. I am SO hoping it ends up being as reliable & accurate & pleasant to shoot & fast to shoot as those 90% of other YT reviewers have stated. I hope you found this initial review of "favorite features", Kimber Redemption Promotion, Wilson Combat comparative, and this specific model's grip preference all worthwhile. Any deeper insight into your longer-term experiences with its reliability, quality, shooting experience would be very welcome. Thanks again ! Cheers !!!

Hi Robert. Yes, from early on I purchased & have been using a Ghost The One EVO competition holster. When buying from Ghost, you need to select the option for the "CZSp01/TS/TSO". I got that one to fit my TS2O perfectly. Ghost holsters get a very high recommendation from me - durable, quality build, works fantastically well - all at a very reasonable price / good value. Let me know if you get one & how it turns out for you. Or if you do something else - how that works. Thanks for participating. Cheers !

@ Thank you for the response, I’ve been looking at the Guga Ribas Universal holster. I’ll check out the Ghost, I haven’t gotten the gun yet but I want to be ready when it arrives. Thank you, Bob

Hi Reuven. Thanks for commenting / participating ! As (from my video) I'm no expert AT ALL on striker fired pistols or Walthers, for that matter, I believe you nailed 2 of the 3 or 4 upgrades on the F Pro vs the F ... the trigger & magwell. I think the Pro also comes with extended magazine basepads for a few more rounds (nice) ... and it may (or may not) have deeper / better slide serrations. I personally view those 3-4 upgrades as substantial & well worth the price ... especially the metal trigger (both for feel and function). Don't know / not sure if I'd make a change (sell & buy) if I already had the F. But, if I hadn't bought either yet - I'd certainly pay up a bit for that better Pro version. Just my opinion. Cheers !

Hey there, JS. No No No 😁! Don't give up on a spectacular pistol for 1 part that's giving you a bit of trouble ! Option 1 - If you are ok with the width of the thumb ledge / shelf, and only are having problems with it snapping on / off with a tactile (but easy) click - then simply bring it to a good, competent gunsmith in your town - and have him work the thumb safety until it's clicking on/ off as you want. That would be a very inexpensive, easy fix. Option #2 - If the width of the thumb safety's ledge / shelf is also a problem for you (as it was for me) then contact X-Ray parts in Italy ... make sure with them that this part is indeed wider than the stock TS2O safety ... and (if so) buy it & have your local gunsmith install it properly on your TS20. xrayparts.it/en/cz-shadow-2-spare-parts/639-wide-extended-safety-for-cz-shadow-2-cz.html. Sound good ?

You are amazing!! Thank you for taking the time to write such a detailed response!

@@js272 Glad I could help ! Do let me know how it ultimately works out for you. And - since I tried to help - please subscribe (if not already) to this channel 🙏. Cheers !

Hi Sam. Thanks for commenting / participating ! Never seen live or shot the TS2 Bronze - but I do know that was the top-of-the-line TS pistol until they recently came out with the TS2O. And given how fantastic the TS2 Racing Green I previously owned was (and your Bronze is above that) - you indeed have one helluva shooter there ! I also agree that, for the price, the CZ TS's and Shadows are simply unbeatable in what they give to the performance shooting enthusiast. That says a tremendous amount that you'd put it above your Brazos' (which I know are superb customs & semi-custom 2011s). I do believe the CZ will give you years of great shooting ahead (their reliability is one of their best reputational points). But parts will indeed wear out. For parts & enhancements & accessories, let me recommend that you go to Eric Graufel shop in Europe, or X-Ray Parts in Italy (if not CZ's actual site in Czech or USA store) - they both seem to have good assortments & availability & ship for all-in low prices (regardless of being overseas). I used X-Ray for several items - most recently the extended ledge thumb safety. Keep up the good work & straight shooting ! Cheers !!!

@@PBPistoleer Thanks for the parts house sites. Also check out Toni Systems if you haven't already. I have their RDS mount and its machining is impeccable. What I'm talking about are factory parts....ie barrels, trigger bars, etc. What I am specifically looking for are things like a new slide. I have the dovetail mount for my RDS, but I would like to have it cut (which is very doable and there are plenty of shops that specialize specifically in doing this for the TS). With that said what I want a back up slide should something happen in cutting/shipping/afterwards/etc. Those such parts are impossible to locate and with the deep bronze being a lot different, with different parts, and also a "European sales only" pistol, even more so. Additionally the Deep Bronze is, not was, THE flagship of the TS line, even over the TSO. The Deep Bronze was specifically designed for CZs International IPSC Shooting Team with the members making the decisions on what they wanted on/in the gun. The obvious differences include a larger and lower rear safety lever to allows for a better "thumb ledge". A reprofiled, more ergonomic, front thumb rest (gas pedal) that is way different than with the RG and O, this was so it can be shot even faster. The takedown pin is also more profiled, and then there's the color. The internals are where the BIG differences really are. The first being the barrel. The profile, while still a "bull barrel", they're slimmer than what is was in the RG and O. They are hand picked and tested for accuracy and then they're polished inside and out for faster cycling. The biggest difference in the model is that ALL of the parts in the Deep Bronze are specifically hand selected for each gun and then hand fitted by a single smith...not on an assembly line like the other TS models in order to obtain the closest tolerances possible. You will immediately feel this upon picking one up. But again, being so different, it creates a problem with any issues that may arise.

@@samlind8330 Thanks, Sam, for the continuing excellent conversation. Yes, I know that the Bronze was a non-US / International offering that is/was their top TS offering. Now I understand your quandary regarding back-up parts - thanks for clarifying that. On that front, I can only suggest you email Eric Graufel Shop - it's his own retail outlet, but since he's THE MAN at CZ, I'd bet he can probably give you better guidance than anyone else regarding how to go about obtaining what you need. And, he / his team there DOES respond pretty actively to inquiries. So, best wishes with that ! As to the Deep Bronze is/was the top of the line, I respectfully (though I'm only 98% sure 😁) think I'm correct that the newer TS2O (not the TSO) - which was launched only early this year - is now CZ's top Limited offering. Pretty sure they discontinued the Racing Green & Deep Bronze - took all the best features from both - and added top-of-slide serrations, a true, full Bull Barrel (first in a TS) - a new guide-rod system for longer life - a changed angle of the gas pedal / thumb rest - and a raised thumb safety for stronger down torque. Eric Graufel (a CZ's Limited pro) was deeply involved in its creation & launch. At least, that's what the endless videos & articles I watched & read 1 year ago - 9 months ago led me to believe before I bought it. Regardless, good sir, you have a SPECTACULAR pistol - and I have a SPECTACULAR pistol. And I plan shooting it for a lot longer. I'm now 3,850 rounds in, still loving it, still getting to know it intimately, and have 0.0 regrets in its purchase. Gotta go work, now. Cheers, my friend ! PBP

Thanks, Willy, for the ongoing conversation & kind words. I'll keep trying to post only good / meaningful content. Cheers !

Hi again, Willy ! I have not. I just looked into it again yesterday - DPM doesn't make a recoil spring package for the TS2O - at least not yet. So I'm shooting it fully stock - except for the wider thumb safety that I bought after-market & installed for a wider ledge to press down upon after drawing / while shooting strings. Don't load my own ammo - just use factory 147 grain stuff that's 950-990 fps. But, what you wrote about 205 grain - you must be shooting the .40 S&W version of the TS2O (major) - not the 9mm like me. Regardless, we both really seem to be synching nicely with this superb, reliable shooter. So glad your loving yours like I do mine. I am dry firing regularly & live fire too (now up to 3,300 rds). While you are stopping / heading indoors for the season, I'm doing some final work to prep for just a few Action Steel competitions in Dec - April. Keep up the great work & thank you for commenting ! PBP

Well, AF, that is just about the nicest comment I've received yet ... so THANK YOU very much ! I'm very glad my ramblings somewhat inspired you. Yes, I do feel that many quality pistol manufacturers have now made the double-stacked 1911s / 2011s (and the CZs, Sigs and other quality platforms that function so) the clear-cut pistols to own of today. If you know my channel, you know I'm not a fan of the countless polymer / striker-fired offerings. And, much as I truly do appreciate the aesthetics & 'purity' of traditional 1911s ... giving up that additional capacity at no cost just makes little sense to me. So I certainly do encourage you to find a beautiful, cool DS 1911 / 2011 that fits your hands, grip and natural shooting preferences well, and 'go for it'. I'm 99% sure you will not regret that decision one bit. The only hard part is finding that one that fits the above specifications really well - and at the price range you want too. As I do with all my friends, I'd be happy to give you some suggestions (after some needed input from you), if you want that. Regardless, thank you for commenting & participating. I hope you subscribe to my channel & find most of my content useful. TGIF & have a fantastic weekend ahead (with some shooting thrown in) !

Thank you very much, Archerious ! Mine is in 9mm - so shooting Limited division - minor. I have to say that - with the meaningful improvements they made over the TS2 Racing Green, and the original TSO - the pistol is simply fantastic. For the price I believe it's practically (definitely?) unbeatable as a pretty high-level, out-of-the-box race gun. And, for me specifically (very important to distinguish that given my hands & natural shooting preferences) it's nearly perfect. The more time I spend with it (now ~3,500 rounds), the more I synch with it and appreciate it. Not quite as good as my Bul Radical - but at 2/3 the price of that - it's right there in a bang-for-buck comparison. Do you have any CZs ? What do you shoot ? TGIF ! Thanks for commenting & participating !! Cheers !!!

Hi JS. Yes, from early on I purchased & have been using a Ghost The One EVO competition holster. When buying from Ghost, you need to select the option for the "CZSp01/TS/TSO". I got that one to fit my TS2O perfectly. Ghost holsters get a very high recommendation from me - durable, quality build, works fantastically well -all at a very reasonable price / good value. Let me know if you get one & how it turns out for you. Or if you do something else - how that works. Thanks for participating. Cheers !

Just in the past year has Bul started making all their pistol offerings with an optic cut from-factory. Before then, none of them were optics ready. Both of my Radicals are not cut - but I shoot iron sights / Limited division anyway. But still wish it was for the future when my eyes worsen & I inevitably have to make the switch. Anyway, if you order a Radical now (though I've heard rumblings they MAY discontinue this amazing, incredible model) - it'll certainly come optics ready w/ Bul's cool mounting system. Good luck & let me know if you do so. I know it's crazy to call a $3,090 USD pistol a bargain ... but it IS THAT GOOD. Unless you are an A / M / GM, you won't be able to tell the difference between this and a $4,500 - $6,000 semi-custom / custom. Cheers !

Very sharp eye there, Kurt ! Thank you for Commenting - and thank you for your concern. Yes - that is a Cheely grip fit to the Radical - so it doesn't have the exact parameters of the Bul module. Fortunately, my gunsmith is top-notch & does really superb work - and we addressed that when we were building it (along with ~50 other things about making it work properly). He (aside from locking it down internally in ways I don't pretend to know) even did a drop of welding from the top of that grip module spot to the bottom of the dustcover where they intersect - but you can't see that at all ... really great craftsmanship on his part (he assured me it would be so). So it's locked down fully & completely & 100% ... rock-solid tight, as if from factory. Again - Thank You for reaching out. And I hope you're enjoying the rest of my content, as well. Cheers !

Thanks a lot for watching & commenting (and I hope subscribing & liking), Bright ! Yes - the PDP Pro F 4" that I shot was certainly impressive - especially for a 100% hammer-fired guy. As I really like & am 100% satisfied with my current carry, car, home, multi-use lineup, I'd probably only go for the 5" PDP Pro as a true range toy & fun gun. Gonna try to see if I can rent one of those at one of my local indoor ranges (with iron sights) to make a final decision. But they are certainly the finest strikers I've ever experienced. So, thank you for your informed & helpful commentary. Cheers ! PBP

I'd really like to give the 5" steel frame a run. Seems like the best of all worlds. I like the 5" polymer frame. But that's the only one i cared for.

Makes a lot of sense, Willy, given our more natural preferences for heavier, metal, full-sized pistols. The only caveat I'd give to that is ... If your hands are medium-down-to-small-sized, then the PDP Pro F comes in both 3.5" and 4" barrel with a thinner grip circumference, but all the other premium features intact. Might be worth renting / shooting to see if you like it for a carry / car option. If you do so, let me know your thoughts / experience with it (especially vs smaller 1911/2011 options). As always - thanks for participating / commenting ! Cheers !!!

@@PBPistoleer I really like how Walther made the ergonomics of the PDP the gun fits the human like a glove, 🥊,, interesting design I’ve shot just about every gun on the planet and I do a lot of comparisons still fighting the gun fever buying things I really don’t need… lol 😂 ..

@@brightideas5782 Thanks for commenting, Bright ! Very glad to know that someone with good trigger time behind many more pistols than I (with a more narrowly focused experience base) seems to be agreeing with me on the "stand out" positioning of the Walther PDP Pro's in the striker-fired world. And I totally get your dilemma on controlling the buying fever that afflicts all of us pistoleers 😅... tough to stay smart & disciplined in a world of tempting choices ! Keep up the good work !! Cheers !!!

Hey there, WIMUT - thanks for watching & commenting ! Here's my best advice for you ... (1) That AF s15 shoots INCREDIBLY well, stable, manageable & pleasantly for a 3.5" barreled gun. But it seems that all manufacturers making less than 4" 1911 / DS1911s / 2011s have some challenges on the 100% reliability scale. I have no doubt at all (if you end up having any issues after purchase) that AF / Dasan will stand behind the S15 - and pay for any shipping in, full repair, and shipping back to you (at no cost to you & in about 15 days time). So, if you can live with that, then I DO recommend it. (2) But if the idea of that isn't good enough for you (which is 100% fine, if so) then you might want to try out the Sig P229 Legion SAO (if you like their platform's ergonomics - though I personally didn't) or Walther's new 3.5" or 4" PDP Pro F-series (given its same thinner grip to the AF), if you are ok with striker-fired pistols. I just yesterday posted a video about those Walther models (worth a watch for you), and that MIGHT end-up being the better choice. Hope that helps ... Thanks for watching & participating (and I hope subscribing & liking) ... and keep shooting straight !

​@@PBPistoleerthanks for the reply! I have a G43X with the shield arms mags so I've really been drawn to the AF 1911-S15. I guess that, like you said, if they can stick to the warranty then I shouldn't have any worries. I can always fall back on the 43X if I need to send it in. Thanks!!

@@whyismyusernametaken... Sounds like a sound plan - with a nice backup option, too. I have pretty much zero doubt that Alpha Foxtrot will fully honor their warranty - and handle things quickly / professionally / properly to satisfy their customers (just like they did with me). Andy So at A.F. / Dasan was great to work with on that front. One thing to check - I believe (search internet on this) that the S-15 had some feeding reliability issues with many (but not all) of the Stealth Arms Gen 2 magazines - but that was fully resolved with the Gen 3 SA magazines. So, check which ones you already have. I have the Gen 3 SA magz, and they work fine / reliably. Lastly - if / when you do buy the S15 and put at least a few hundred rounds thru her, please hit me back & let me know your thoughts. In my opinion, it's an entirely different world (shooting experience wise) than the micro-polymer 9s that rule the planet these days (my wife's G43 included). But I'd definitely want to hear your thoughts on differentiation if / when you get to that point. Cheers, my good man !

Thanks a lot for the comment & feedback, Brandon - worthy of consideration ! I hope you'll check out my 2 follow-up videos about this ... Car Gun Quandary Part II & Car Gun Quandary Part III ... to see how it's been playing out. Part II will be especially worthwhile to you, given what you wrote about the Sig and 1911 platforms. Much appreciate your participation - and keep shooting straight & fast. Cheers !

My 23' 3.25ul quality is far batter than my 24' 4.25 tac pro. Last year was worth it, this year...nah.

Thank you for watching & commenting, BedBass - much appreciated ! Wow - while your situation is certainly going against the far majority of what I've been hearing - the fact that you feel disappointed by your new Bul is legit & bothersome (I'm sure). These are all premium & premium-priced pistol ... and the Quality Control should reflect that. My suggestion - get in touch with Bul USA in Miami & see if / what they can do for you. Tell them you've bought previous Buls & are truly disappointed in the Fit & Finish of your new Tac 4.25 Pro - and that it's just not up to par for such a pricey offering. Maybe they can do something for you ? Maybe they can't ? But give that a chance before quitting on the brand permanently. Just saying what I'd do. Good luck to you, sir ... and thanks again for your feedback. All is useful !

Thanks a lot for commenting, Chippo. Ahh - I'm certainly interested in your experimentation. Once you've done it, PLEASE write me back with your results. Have you been using (so far) the from-factory 16 lb spring ? And are you going to try the CZ supplied-in-case 13 lb or 11 lb one ? Or another suppliers' offering, like Wolff ? And, most importantly, how did it work / cycle / run / reliability ? Thank you again for your participation. Good luck with today's session & looking forward to your feedback ! Cheers !!!

@@PBPistoleer I kept stock recoil spring Shooting cheap 124. The 11 and 13 pound spring were both had failed to battery where side did not fully return. Te 11 had more failures than 13. Of course I wanted COOL GUY slide press check. LOL

Thanks for the feedback. Uggh - how disappointing ! I have only been shooting the "comes-with" 16 lb - which runs perfectly. Was hoping that the lighter springs would still work (I shoot 147 gr) - and I WILL eventually try it out - but sounds like no need to rush into that. That's disappointing - why supply lighter springs if they really aren't going to work (especially with mainstream 124 gr ammo). THANK YOU for the heads-up ... MUCH appreciated ! I'll let you know how my experimentation goes - whenever I do it. TGIF & Cheers !

@@PBPistoleer 115 may have totally different results

Please let me know if/when the 115 gr works. And I'll do the same with you whenever I get around to trying it. Cheers !

Well, first off, SEAK, you have a pretty sweet pistol collection there - so congrats on that ! Aside from the Buls & Staccatos - that MPA is hot & really really good, too. ! Thanks for your Comment & thanks for watching my channel. Yes - we are indeed of the same mindset as to value-for-quality in the Bul vs Stacc debate. Extraordinarily similar in their excellent quality - but Bul is lower priced in every category. So, if you can just be a little patient for delivery - and the USA build isn't a full disqualifier - then why not ? And, in that value realm - The Radical is truly exceptional for the $3090 msrp ... honestly don't think it can be topped by anything. I hope you get one soon ! Lemme know if you do & how it works out for you. THANKS AGAIN for participating ... shoot straight & fast ... and Cheers !

@PBPistoleer Sadly, it appears that Bul USA isn't selling Radicals anymore, so I'm stuck scouring the web for a used copy. I found one a couple of months ago, but it wasn't a good time to buy for me, so the hunt goes on...

Hi again, SEAK. You know - I've heard that Bul is going to discontinue The Radical 3 times now. But I still (tonight) see it on the Bul Armory USA website - though not in the Shop section. Did you try to call them in Miami to make a personal try ? Or something else ? I guess my 2 Radicals will become collector items. I guess if they do really discontinue it - then that'll leave only 3 non-custom sight block production guns being produced anywhere (Atlas Artemis @ $6,500, Atlas Nemesis @ $7,000 & and now this Limited Edition Staccato @ $4,300) I hope Bul has a few unsold for you (for an apparently mere $3,090) before they're gone. The sight block really does help in the flat-shooting, lack-of-muzzle-rise arena. Cheers !

@PBPistoleer I do need to call Miami. They're for sure still making them - they were shown at a recent European gun show. It looks like they made a decision not to sell them in the US anymore but I do need confirmation from Miami - good point. I was wondering if they plan on introducing a comped version to compete with the XC, etc. and that's why they older models aren't available but nothing was hinted at during that Euro show. My search will continue. I'll just have to control myself and not spend my Radical money on a Blaze when they come out 😉

Last points I can add ... (1) Blaze is a replacement for the Air, and I visibly don't see any difference - it might just be a name change, but maybe an upgrade or two. (2) They do have comp'd guns already - but not yet to compete with the XC. All their comp'd guns are for Open division - the Ultimate Racer, Ultimate Racer Shorty, Spitfire & Bullesteros. (3) BUT - sometime in 2025 they are launching a comp'd & ported - both - SAS Tac to compete directly with the Stacc XC. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYvHqZ6Zotqiack

Thanks for the suggestion, Enrico ... and a good one at that ! The DWX Compact certainly does qualify for what I like & what I've been interested in. And I 100% gave it serious consideration, as well. BUT - my Alpha Foxtrot cost me $1250 all-in back in early '23 ... the Sig P229 Legion would run me just about the same ... and the Kimber KDS9c Rail you can get for $1550. The DWX Compact (GREAT gun!) can't really be acquired for anything less than $1900 all-in. And, given that my A.F. (and the other two) are really really good, capable, easy-and-enjoyable-to-shoot options - I just don't see the value (since I already own the AF, and would have to go thru the process of selling that for a reasonable price to spend a good amount more for the DWX) in making that partricular switch. Check out my upcoming Car Gun Quandry - Part 3 video to see how this ultimately plays out. And, until then, THANK YOU very much for your participation ! Cheers !

Yes, indeed, Dee ... you have found / voiced the one definite & clear weakness with Bul's offerings - availability. I believe the current Israel Gaza war has made things even worse for the past year, with so many citizens called to duty. But it's never been a plentiful & readily available situation, and that's turned off several people ... including my best shooting buddy, who also turned instead to a Staccato P, and absolutely loves it, and shoots it extremely well (now his main Limited Optics pistol). I do hope my main point came across - that they are BOTH fantastic & roughly equal offerings at all sizes & purpose levels. And paying a $300-to-even-$600 difference doesn't matter much, given one's personal preference. But $700 - $1200+ is just too crazy a spread for me to have not weighed in 😁 with my opinion. Still, I didn't bring up your very good point about availability - and that's totally legit (and the MAIN reason my buddy ended up going with his Staccato - and countless others, as well.) Thank you for weighing in ! Cheers !!!

Recently purchased a Sig Sauer P226 X5 Legion.....I have rented the Stacatto XC at my gun range 4 times and have probably put 500 rounds through it - without a doubt one of the most enjoyable guns on the market to shoot, love that gun, not the price!!! The day I bought my Sig, once again rented the Stacatto XC as well as the Stacatto P alongside the SiG P226 X5 Legion. The Sig blew me away as to how comparable it shot to the Stacatto XC, don't believe me, go rent the 2 & shoot them. The Sig X5 Legion has less recoil and shoots BETTER than the Stacatto P hands down, no question..........I love what I am hearing on the BUL Armory guns and will buy their new combination comp - ported gun they will be releasing in 2025 per gun con!! The Sig X 5 Legion is a better gun than the Stacatto P...............

Did you ever get to buy a Bul ? What model, if so ?

Thanks for commenting, Chris - much appreciated. Wow - that's a strong endorsement of the Kimber ! The KDS9c seems to be Kimber's effort to modernize (a double-stack), get their Quality Control back up to where it was & should be (the 5 years prior to this seemed outright brand-damaging), and reintroduce themselves as a 'premium-production-scale-pistols-for-fair-price' manufacturer in a tough competitive field. And the reviews HAVE been supportive of this. So, given that it checks my necessary boxes, I'll definitely give it a shot vs my Alpha Foxtrot. I don't own & haven't shot the KDS9c, but have a friend who has one. So, I'm trying to wrestle him down for time to do a shoot-out between his & my repaired & upgraded Alpha Foxtrot as my car gun (proving harder to schedule with him than I though. But please know that my A.F. now represents a very high bar for the Kimber to clear - given how GREAT the S15 shoots for a mere 3.5" barreled pistol. Based on what you wrote me, it seems you haven't seen my Part II video - so check that out for an updated status as to where I stand in my car pistol research & ultimate decision. Stay tuned for that ! TGIF & Cheers !

@@PBPistoleer I'm also a big fan of that pistol.

So you own and/or have shot many many rounds thru BOTH the Kimber KDS9c Rail & the Alpha Foxtrot s15 ? If so (fingers crossed), which 1 would you choose (if you had to) specifically for a Car pistol (not carry) ? And why (what preferences, dislikes) ? Don't have to write back to me now - but whenever you have a good few minutes to write me something meaningful / with detail between the two, Chris, PLEASE do so. Haven't had a single other 'Commenter' who has experience with both. In advance, THANK YOU !

@PBPistoleer I have had very little experience with the Foxtrot, 1 mag is all. However, it felt fantastic. I went with the Kimber because it was available and loved the look of it.

Understood & appreciated, Chris. THANK YOU for giving me as much feedback as you thoughtfully could. Enjoy that Kimber ! And stay tuned for my final decision (after the Part II video eliminate the Sig from the calculus).

Thank you for your Comment, Luke - much appreciated ! Sounds like we are on the same page, even though that video was certainly about both of their pricey competition shooters. When it comes to EDC / Car / Carry, I 100% agree with you. Don't need anything fancy to protect yourself, family, innocent public. Just something that's going to work reliably (and still be pleasant & comfortable & accurate to shoot) - and manageable for the specific owner's abilities. As much as I love beautiful & expensive & amazing pistols - my car gun cost me all-in $1,250 all-in & my EDC was $500. You make very good points ! Cheers ! Thanks !

@@PBPistoleergreat vid. In this sequence I have carried 20 plus years daily. 1911 Smith titanium 38 G27 G19 G43 G43x 365 G19 365 legion Staccato cs All would get it done but none at the level of the staccato. Accuracy and times exceed everything else in my hands. I have my own range so I run drills every week. The staccato is just fun to shoot. If it’s affordable to the end user I highly recommend it if it is not a g19 is hard to beat. Getting my gun taken if I were to be in a shoot is the least of my worries. If that is part of the purchase decision you are shopping outside your comfort zone.

Thanks for Commenting, James. Well, you certainly have many more years than me experience in carrying (and having your own range makes me very jealous 😂). Without any question, Staccato is a whole other level than S&Ws, Glocks & even Sigs - so I both understand & agree with your ranking there. If you ever have a chance to get your hands on a Bul, definitely try it out. Some like Staccato more than Bul, others the other way & I view them as interchangeably excellent. I go with Bul as they are a bit less pricey at every level - though you have to be more patient in acquiring one. Thanks for watching / subscribing! Cheers !

Thanks for the feedback, Irving - much appreciated. I've been using 147 exclusively. Now working more reliably - but not 100%. A bit frustrating (though very rare now) - and not what I expected of usually-perfect CZ. But the pistol overall is SO great - especially for the price point - that it's still my go-to for my heavy-use competition shooter. Check out my newly-posted very short video (yesterday) on the Muzzle-rise / Return-to-zero with the TS2O ... with 147 grain. Thank you & Cheers !

Thanks for Commenting, Jon - much appreciated ! To be honest, I had such little clear feedback & interest in the first 2 videos about this (I was surprised - thought there'd be far more) that I wasn't too dedicated to finish the testing in full video format. But, with your welcomed interest, I now certainly will ! Gotta schedule with my buddy with the KDS9c to do that. The Alpha Foxtrot (newly repaired & upgraded) is really shooting beautifully for merely a 3.5" barrel - so, it's going to be a high bar to clear for the Kimber. But the results will be the results - and I'm still open to changing (if warranted). So, stay tuned - it'll likely be 2-3 weeks (apologies). Cheers !

And I’m a Kimber fam.

Yes, I've heard that, 4chub, from a number of KDS9c owners - including my friend from whom I'll be borrowing it to do the final shoot-out with my Alpha Foxtrot. Not too good advanced planning by Kimber - not a great way to breed loyalty. But this pistol seems to be their effort to modernize (a double-stack), get their Quality Control back up to where it should be (the 5 years prior to this seemed outright brand-damaging), and reintroduce themselves as a 'premium-production-scale-pistols-for-fair-price' manufacturer in a tough competitive field. And the reviews HAVE been supportive of this. So, given that it checks my necessary boxes. I'll happily give it a shot !

Gotta schedule with my buddy with the KDS9c to do that final shoot-off. The Alpha Foxtrot (newly repaired & upgraded) really shoots beautifully & soft & flat for merely a 3.5" barrel - so, it's going to be a high bar to clear for the Kimber. But the results will be the results - and I'm still open to changing (if warranted). So, stay tuned - it'll likely be 2-3 weeks (apologies). Cheers !

The KDS 9C Rail has more than just a rail and ambi safety. It also comes with an extra mag and night sights. A rail, ambi safety, extra mag, and night sights are the reason for the $400 increase - IMO, that's a reasonable cost increase and they're just not going to give away a gun.

@@unixfool Thanks, Ron, for commenting / participating ! Yes, that Kimber seems to provide good value & quality bang-for-the-buck ... exactly what I'm / my channel is all about (great stuff that's worth the higher price tag). I hope you'll watch my "Car Gun Quandary - Part III" video. Still very interested in the Kimber, but definitely want to shoot it before I'd even think of retiring my Alpha Foxtrot. Any chance you have one & live in southeast FL 😁 ? Again, thanks for writing & now I'll go check out your channel. Cheers !!!

@@PBPistoleer Ah...no, I live in Northern VA. I'm also the owner of an Alpha Foxtrot S15 (1200 rounds shot with no issues). If it weren't for the fact that I'm more in love with the Bul Armory SAS II Ultralight, I'd be carrying the S15 on a normal basis. Kimber is also doing smaller guns, too...they've the CDS9, which is probably better equivalent to the S15. I've subscribed to your channel!

Good evening, Keith. Thanks for subscribing & commenting - much appreciated ! Yup - those ported & (even more so) compensated pistols can be quite finicky (especially carry-sized ones). But you definitely seem to have the proper (fun-seeking, experimental, research oriented) mindset going into it, so I'll bet you get it right. Then again, the updated Bul EDC Pro looks to be fantastic from factory - so you're all good anyway. I did see a teaser for the upcoming Tac in 2025 that's both ported & comp'd. If Bul can get that out the door in a very reliable, functional, reasonably-priced & good-looking package (and if anyone can, I'd bet on them) I believe that'll be their best-selling model in short order. Cheers, my good man & shoot straight !

Thanks for your helpful Comment, Robert ! If I do any change at all (might well not), I was originally leaning toward the Sig for it's reliability & reputation. But that Kimber is surprising me in the highly positive reviews I'm seeing - and I know that Kimber put a lot of work into this - their first DS - to try to get themselves back to their former, better rep. I can report to you that I've have made progress on my Car Gun research. Did a shoot-off last Saturday between my repaired & upgraded AF vs one of those two (which did eliminate 1 from the calculus). And found a friend that has the other - on which I'll soon be doing shoot-off #2. So stay tuned, my good man. Cheers & thanks again !

You’re very welcome and best of luck. (Snubby in my console). Never a worry.

Thank you for your input, Maybe ... much appreciated ! If I do anything, I'm leaning toward the Sig for it's reliability & reputation. But that Kimber is surprising me in the highly positive reviews I'm seeing - and I know that Kimber put a lot of work into their first DS to try to get themselves back to their former, better rep. I can report that I've have made progress on my Car Gun research. Did a shoot-off last Saturday between my repaired & upgraded AF vs one of those two (which did eliminate 1 from the calculus). And found a friend that has the other - on which I'll soon be doing shoot-off #2. So stay tuned, my good man. Cheers !

Yup, V8P - I know what you mean when you have something nice like that. But you want / need to perform at the level you're capable of ... and such a superb firearm as the TS2 RG let's you do that comfortably - hence the conundrum. Maybe put the more pristine of the 2 aside for occasional shooting - and beat the hell out of the other one (hehehe) ?

Thanks for Commenting, V8P ! That TS2 Green was FANTASTIC ! Never should have parted with it - though it did (as explained in vid) ultimately get me into the TS2O. I've gone to OKC for 3 Action Steel competitions in the past year (haven't done USPSA yet) - but have decided I'll only do it from Oct thru May, and only 3-4 times per year. Don't have the admirable dedication you do - but really do enjoy it when I've done so. Maybe I'll ramp things up in '25. Keep up the good work & shoot straight + fast ! Cheers !

Thanks, Willy, again, for the good input. Yes, I'm leaning more (if anything) to the Sig over Kimber - but very well might keep my A F. which is excellent when running reliably. Going today to do a shoot-off between a 226 Legion DA/SA (closest imitator I found to rent) and my A.F. That'll probably be the decider. Will have a follow-up in a few weeks. Thanks for participating!

Awesome. I'm excited to see what you pick.

Thanks, Minor, for the informed, helpful input - exactly what I sought. Yes, I'm leaning more (if I do anything) to the Sig over the Kimber. But, I very well might keep my A F. - which is beautiful & superb when running reliably - and it certainly now should be. I'm going today to do a shoot-off between a 226 Legion DA/SA (the closest imitator I found to rent) and my A.F. That'll be the decider. Boiling it down to, from here, 5 remaining factors : differences between grip, trigger, muzzle rise, accuracy & overall shooting experience. I'll certainly post a follow-up in a few weeks. Thank you very much for participating & assisting !

Thanks for writing, CD. It's a 9mm Radical 5.4"with a metal grip. I do have Bul's slide-stop thumb rest / gas pedal installed on it (and a gas pedal on all my guns) - which helps mitigate muzzle rise. Other than that, it's been a lot of work on improving hand strength, forearm strength & grip technique. BUT, that said, I do shoot this brilliant pistol flatter than anything else I own - even the (equally heavy) CZ TS2 Orange & the predecessor of that - the CZ TS2 Racing Green ... as you can see in my shooting footage with those 2. Enjoy your beautiful Radical - and keep shooting straight !

And that, Mr. Hawk, is a good & legit & smart & solid point you make. I am (literally) a supporter of LE here in Florida - am fully behind our 'men in blue' nationally - and US military personnel, as well. Wasn't commenting (obviously) on that aspect in any way - as I failed to note it. But I did say & made many positive points re: Staccato - wasn't slighting them at all - and think they are a superb company. Was doing a simple gun-to-gun comparative - and re: financial value specifically. Different people define 'value' in different ways. And I certainly respect your American & LE values being at the top, good sir. Cheers !

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Thanks, Keith. Yup - I don't shoot anything else (I own) that flat - and even the new, heavy CZ TS2O doesn't seem to be in the same neighborhood. The Radical makes shooters (me included) look good :) And, the only pistols I've shot that compares to it are the Laugo Alien - and higher-end ported & comp'd stuff. Cheers !

Watched your EDC vid - you shoot that NICE ! My Tac Commander was one of the original ones from 3 years ago - no fancy upgrades or ports. But it shot beautifully. Good luck with all your upgrading--to-come ! Sure it'll work out well. Cheers, my friend & keep shooting straight !