🤣 not yet, but who knows?

The song does not tell us - talk about a cliffhanger! But the implied prognosis is not good! 😅

It's a slow boil, and possibly one that is more obvious to the people doing the dance than to observers! 😅

Thank you for sharing your approaches and experience! Those are some great tips for growing one's skill while maintaining a tangible sense of fun and achievement! In a modern world that is accustomed to the level of perfection that can be achieved with machine sewing and Automation in general, people forget that historically, even the garments worn by great medieval/Renaissance potentates were rarely perfect even upon completion. The extant garments that we have illustrate that perfectly straight seams and invisible finishes were almost never achieved, if even targeted at all. Not to mention the post factum repairs and adjustments that were clearly made to actually fit the wearer. And of course when one is trying to recreate a historical garment that has no complete extant original and certainly no step by step instructions having survived from the 15th century, one must reinvent the wheel and Learn by doing as one goes along. Honestly I think that's why I'm more interested in medieval Fashions and earlier, because there are more Mysteries to be solved through creative and even sometimes destructive learning, versus later periods where we have perfectly preserved entirely extant ensembles. 😅

Thank you, Tommaso! It would be so lovely to have you join us at Pennsic, some year! :-)

@@thecreativecontessa If i could set foot on American soil.

well, to be frank, by next summer, I might not want to set foot on American soil...We shall see...

@@thecreativecontessabeautiful dance & great channel. Thank you so much ❤

@@thecreativecontessa I just it notify me.

This Friday/Saturday (depending on one's time zone). :-) kzbin.infoiPUkyJsmhwU?feature=share

Thank you! It's one of my favorite styles of gown. 😊

Thank you! I'm going to be doing a livestream discussion of what went wrong and right with making the dress. 😊

But the funny thing is that the Almighty algorithm has not favored it at all! 🤣

@@thecreativecontessa That's not fair! This totally deserves the blessing of the cat gods! You didn't shoo the kitty away, so you're good peoples! Keep in mind, I think my 400+ views on my cat video are amazing. Hahaha I know not everyone thinks those are high numbers, but I do.

As for my innere Schweinehund, let's just say that current circumstances micro and macro keep feeding him and causing sleepless nights, but I've been fighting the good fight apace!

As for the performance, the questers were pretty convinced. 😂

You are too right, and thank you for the reminder!

I didn't think of it either. I observed it after making seams that were way too strong and having to perform complex reconstructive surgery on the fabric in order to fix the resulting tears. 🤣

Thank you for that great question! In this case, it is a practical reason of not having thread in a closer color in my supplies. That being said, the few extant garments that we have from this period in which the threads have been preserved indicate that just as often as not undyed or unmatching thread was used rather than a matching one, especially for the interior seams. As it turns out, the white threads barely show on the surface in any case because of the "absorbent" nature of this weave of wool.

😪 it is frustrating! I am thinking of doing a video on repairing ripped fabric, using various rips as an example.

She means you should use a reasonable amount of tension. If you're pulling the stitches tight, the stiches pull on woven threads of the fabric and destroy it.

Thank you for that question! What @EvaCryptic said, plus not using thread that is too strong and heavy for the fabric. After a while, one develops a feel for this sort of thing, but I suppose that one can also test a swatch of the fabric, doing a pull test to see if the fabric or the seam rips. In any case, your thread should mirror the gauge of the threads of the fabric, meaning finer thread for thinner fabrics, etc. Does that make sense?

Thank you for commenting! So pleased you found the tips helpful! 😊

Exactly! Thank you for sharing that great parallel example! 😊

Glad it is helpful! Thank you for commenting! 😊

Thanks for watching! 😊

It’s definitely a beautiful place to escape to, for a little while.😊

May it prevent you from having to cry unnecessary tears of frustration. 😅

I'll actually be discussing and showing what has happened during my livestream post-mortem on the gown this coming weekend. In short, though, the reinforcement may have been necessary...😅

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Sewist, and no, I meant what I said. 😊 This is a word that has been in use for quite a while (since three 1860s) and is now used as a gender-neutral term for people who sew (tailor is NOT the male term for seamstress - that's a different profession). It is quite common in creative sewing spaces like blogs and vlogs. 😊 www.threadsmagazine.com/2012/10/11/sewer-vs-sewist

Nope. Sewist is the correct term. A seamstress simply sews seams.

Thank you for watching and commenting! I hope it's useful. 😊

Thank you! They were Handmade by a Craftsman in seoul. Hand-carved wooden frame, finished with lacquer and mother of pearl inlay. 14th century techniques. 😊

Sewist is correct

I have not really ever found evidence of sleeves in Florence being tied on in this era. In the 1490 in Milan and venice, but not in the 1480 or even 1490s in florence.

@thecreativecontessa Thank you for this historical fashion tidbit. And I'm looking forward to the live vlog today

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@@susanpolastaples9688 yup!

@thecreativecontessa Did you vlog the making of this dress because I can't seem to locate it on your channel?

No because it's a completely different style of gown. Osana's gown was made for a growing tween, which is why I assumed it wasn't given the fullness of skirts that a gown for a mature woman would have been given. In any case, I prefer the pleated skirt style. I'm not really interested in making a perfect reproduction of Osana's gown because that's not my personal style. But the Gown is very useful for providing crucial information on sewing and finishing techniques that can apply to other styles of gowns from this era. 😊

@thecreativecontessa Didn't think about Osana's age and the gown construction or that a mature woman would need the fuller skirt that pleating gives. And yes, having a construction guide is for sewing and the all-important finishing techniques.

There is a balance between seam strength and weakness. You want a seam that is strong enough that it will hold on its own, but weak enough that if force is exerted on the fabric, the seam will rip instead of the fabric. Triple head would almost guarantee that the fabric will rip instead of the thread, if, for instance, one were to step on one's hem while climbing stairs.

@thecreativecontessa thanks.

Thank you for watching, subscribing and posing such an excellent question! There is exactly one source of which I'm aware from the Iberian Peninsula in the 15th century. It is a Catalan manuscript, which shouldn't surprise anyone because Catalunya was pretty sophisticated and culturally advanced (and not wasting resources on the Reconquista). It just seems to be dances in the style of The Burgundian court (bassedanses), which is not terribly surprising because The Burgundian Court in this era held massive cultural sway over france, Portugal and the Spanish kingdoms. Now, that being said, in the Italian sources from this era there are dances that are absolutely Spanish in nature. For instance, there is a bassadanza called gioioso spagnuolo, one called re di spagna, and another dance that appears in both the Italian and French sources called biaulte di chastiglia/beaute de Castille. Do you have the full original quote in the original language about Juana's dancing style? I'm actually originally a professional linguist and Translator by trade, and sometimes translations don't capture nuances of meaning, so seeing the original might better illuminate what is actually meant by "Spanish style".

Also, I just have to say I never in my wildest fantasies thought there would be so much interest in a video essay about reconstructing a medieval dance. Really, I mostly made this for my patrons on patreon, and thought there would be no broader interest for it at all! And I certainly never imagined there would be more interest in medieval dance reconstruction than in medieval dressmaking videos (of which I have several). 😅

@@thecreativecontessa Oh my goodness, thank you so much for all of this! I believe I do: it's from a set of chronicles detailing various trips made by the dukes of Burgundy. This one is by a gentleman named Lalaing, who came over with Philip the Handsome and Juana. I downloaded the publication and have it in electronic format, and here's that quote (page 141 of "COLLECTION DES VOYAGES DES SOUVERAINS DES PAYS-BAS": "Ce faict, le roy et Monsigncur montèrent à cheval , et allèrent voler. Puis revinrent soupper ensamble non sans la royne et Madame, et aussy madame de Vendosme, madame de Nevers, la ducesse Valentinoise et mademoiselle de Fois. Les femmes de Madame soupèrent avoec celles de la royne. La royne estoit vestue de satin brochié violet fourré de martres, et Madame et chineq ou six de ses demoiselles estoient acoustrées de drap d'or, à la fachon d’Espagne, et estoit Madame ornée de pluseurs bones bagues. Le souper faict, six gentilshomes de Monseigneur, abilliés moult richement, à la fachon d Allemaigne, vinrent danser à ladicte fachon. Après, mons. d'Avesnes Madame danser à la mode espaignole. Après quoy, chescun se retira." Not too descriptive, I confess: we do have both German and Spanish styles, and Juana, incidentally, would have been familiar with both. But in this case, she was making a definite statement with her Spanish clothing and dancing: it counted as a political gesture here.

@@thecreativecontessa Oh, you'd be surprised! I'm a member of the Richard III Society, and there is an entire passel of historians and amateur lovers of history who are fascinated by dress, dance, and daily life on several levels!

@melenatorr I've been doing living history for almost 30 years, so I definitely expect people to be interested in clothing and maybe in learning how to dance, but not in the nitty gritty pedantry of working from a manuscript to recreate the dance. I suppose my take away from this is that I will be making more reconstruction videos for other dances as well. 🤣