I'm afraid I cannot narrow it down any further - there is always the possibility that someone might at any time spot a clue in a detail somewhere which would allow greater precision over the date ( and I would welcome that ), so do please keep checking back on this any my other John Collins Archive videos for anything that might be worked out.

Thank you.

Always a hazard of filming near water!! 🤣

You may, but please spell my name correctly in the credits ( a lot of people don't ) - and if you could link back to my channel, that would be appreciated. I do have some other marine videos up which might interest the same people who would watch yours. 🙂

@@petermugridge27No worries, it’s for the Shieldhall herself so at the end of the video, when I put the video attributions, I’ll put your name followed by your channels tag. Will that be ok?

@@willfaulkner7389 That's perfect, thank you. Sounds like you're one of the crew or at least closely involved with Shieldhall? Must be very interesting for you. 🙂

@@petermugridge27 Yup, I’m a volunteer, I love it! She’s a labour of love for all of us and we all love running the ship.

@@petermugridge27 I am and it is, we’re all volunteers so the ship is a labour of love, but all of us love it.

Thank you; I have other videos of similar vintage on here also from my late father in law's collection. Some others include Walsingham at least in part.

Yes, the sun will always set in the west. By mid November, though, there is very little southwards shifting of the ecliptic left; much of that movement is from early August until late October.

I see. So you're saying the opposite occurs after the sun sets due west from April to July; the shifting movement of the ecliptic right picks up during that time of the year?

@@Religious_man The sun will only set due west twice a year, in late March and late September ( the exact date of these equinoxes can vary a day or two either side of the 21st due to complicated orbital mechanics ). Between the shortest day ( December 21st give or take a day or two for the same reason ) and the longest day ( June 21st +/- a day or two ) the sun will be setting slightly further north each day; between June and December slightly further south each day. For a month either side of the longest and shortest days that daily motion is very small, again to do with orbital angles and inclinations. The greatest daily motion is around the time of the equinoxes. It's rather more complicated than can be reasonably explained in the YT comments section, though - I'd suggest asking someone at your local astronomy society for a fuller explanation.

"I'd suggest asking someone at your local astronomy society for a fuller explanation." No, because like you, they will mention the Gregorian calendar ----- a so-called solar calendar that a bunch of degenerate roman fools made up according to their imaginations and not by observations and they deliberately left out our moon which is a significant part of our solar system and gives us our months, not just our days. Men like them were poor time-keepers. It's no wonder their empire collapsed. They were too full of themselves. I rather go around asking more questions about the reality of time.

Thank you, but it's probably not that type of dinghy. In terms of narrowing down the date, I think we need to look at 1959 or 1960. Someone on the UK rail forum points out that the type of diesel unit seen at the end of the clip was introduced in 1957 and the line closed to passengers in November 1960. The livery of some of the carriages suggests 1958. Now, it looks fairly summery in the film, so the latest possible date could be summer 1960. I am personally inclined towards 1960 as my late father in law's 13th birthday was in May that year and it occurs to me that as the 13th was a big birthday in those days, becoming a teenager, it would be more logical that this would have been when he was given a cine camera. Had he been using a borrowed camera, which is entirely possible for earlier dates, he probably would not have got away with shooting an entire reel in one go would he?

@@petermugridge27 Agreed - it's possible someone with more knowledge of dinghies might recognise the sail markings (Mirrors had a different logo above the number) and be able to find a closer date, although having read the comments properly I can see that you've already narrowed it down considerably. I had use of a 'Standard 8' cine camera in around 1972 but never really captured anything useful with it! We spent a few days staying on Alton Station earlier in the month and it's fascinating to see what used to be on that part of the line. Best of luck.

That's odd - are the rest of mine working for you?

@@petermugridge27 appears to be ok, now. Thanks anyway.

@@alanclarke4646 Good to hear; it must have just been one of those annoying internet glitches.

Sorry, what I have already published of Concorde on that day is all that I filmed on that day with the exception of a couple of minutes of a private party on the pub which only shows members of a Concorde group - there is no other aircraft footage from that day from me.

I have this video of the triple landing that day here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z6uokJ5_f5iJmqs but I am afraid that is all I filmed. The only bits I edited out were some scenes from a private function at The Green Man pub commemorating the occasion showing the people who were in attendance.

Thank you, yes - Fatima would make perfect sense when you consider that the vast majority of the rest of his archive is of pilgrimages to Lourdes and Walsingham - I'd certainly expect that they would have done Fatima at least once, so that's a very useful suggestion.

To travel to Alton towers by train could still be a possibility if the mothballed Stoke to Leekbrook junction line was reinstated then reinstate through Oakamoor tunnel and into Alton towers station, surely the amount of congestion from road traffic would make councils more popular if they funded the project and a discounted entry price to the theme park if they traveled by train, it isn't a far fetched idea.

Thank you; that is very helpful and it makes sense in the context of a visit to Walsingham shrine as well.

Thank you, so... July... we are now narrowed down to more or less one specific month. That's very helpful. :-)