@@16sondra Ah, c'mon. He wasn't that bad. I've been behind WAAAAAAY worse. 😂

@@anthonycardona3141 just headers and exhaust. Other than that, it's a stock 2008 GT

@@robertbenefiel2781 best road East of the Mississippi. Where are you from?

@@robertbenefiel2781 I'll be up at the Dragon March 26-28 and weekend of April 4-6.

@@robertbenefiel2781 if you look at some of my other videos, I'm running through the hills in a Porsche Cayman S, Porsche Boxster, and a 718 Cayman. They're great cars. Also see track days. Fun stuff! Thanks for watching

@@petelanzone484 Maybe. 😂

@@edjeep maybe. 😂

@@kuma8293 Thank you very much for the compliments. The Cayman S is indeed a tremendously great platform. But every advantage Porsche put in the Cayman.... Mid-engine, incredible brakes, impeccable steering, amazing balance are all present in the McLaren. And the McLaren has twice the torque and power. It's a much finer automobile. And you're right. I didn't think the driver would be willing to throw the car around like I was willing to throw mine. But he was. And he was good. Neither of us made a touch of mustard except to safely pass. To date, this is still one of my favorite memories of the Dragon, and I have dozens. Thanks for watching. Happy New Year

@@BandDirector Both valid points. However, if you notice the direction we're going, it's towards the state line. We had come from there earlier and saw no police and no police entered from the north while we were at the overlook. So there could not be any police on the road. And as for the second point, we were talking at the overlook and on our trip up I was in front of him and he couldn't keep up and he asked if I'd go behind him and take a video of him driving down because he knew I'd be able to stay right behind him And I agreed. So, he knew I was behind him and needed to stay close to keep him squarely in the video. But without that knowledge, I could understand your concerns.

@@caymanchronicles4753 I was wondering the same as @bandDirector, I was thinking that it might have been your exclamation. Road was a little wet to get too crazy. Looks like a lot of fun!

​@@caymanchronicles4753He couldn't keep up? What you got in that Stang?

@@sugerhitman1295 Nothing. Just an exhaust. What was in the Mustang that helped was the driver. 😂

@@caymanchronicles4753 😂

Looks boring through the video but definitely not boring in person

@@Iceforfree he was moving ok and for the most part, stayed between the lines also. Really nice guy. Met him at the overlook and he was driving from Illinois to Florida. He doesn't use the car in winter and it was the second week of November and he was driving it to give to his dad in Florida. Not fair to say I was held up. I'm pretty quick up there. Most people hold me up.

@ sounds like a nice guy. I’m just kidding anyways, he’s going at least 2x the speed of most vettes up there lol Not sure if you’re local, but look for me in a black integra type s up there. I usually go on weeknights

​​@@IceforfreeI'm not a local. But an honorary one with all the time I spend there. 😂 I'm blessed for all the friends I've made in the area. Very blessed. The car I'm in was loaned to me by a friend while my car was being wrapped by other friends who own 129 Wraps. Took me a bit to get used to the size and weight of the GT compared to a Porsche Cayman S. While I was there I saw a beautiful new Integra. Black. Maybe it was you! Great cars!

@@Iceforfreethe mustang has 100-130 hp less then the base c6 so the fixed or repaired daily ride really has no chance to keep up with the vette

@@tombrown9246 wow man I can tell you’ve never driven the dragon before. Horsepower doesn’t mean as much as you think it does

I'm not sure about the C6. He is a great guy. Met him at the overlook and he was from Illinois. He couldn't use the Vette during winter, so he was driving it to Florida for his dad to use. The Mustang GT has a race exhaust with Roush X-Pipe. Basically no muffler. 😂. It's rowdy. Also upgraded headers. Thanks for the compliment. It's my friend's car that he let me borrow while my car was getting wrapped by 129 Wraps in the area.

Speed limit ? What speed limit ? When I was there a little over a month ago someone had spray painted all the speed limit signs :) Car sounds great!

Ha! I saw that. Been there way since early November. And thanks for the compliment!

I'll never talk over a sports car singing. Hope you had a great Thanksgiving

Let’s see your faster car

GT500, GT350, Darkhorse all would like a word. I'm a Viper and Giulia QV owner and I think there are tons of badass Mustangs. Appreciate the fact they exist rather than looking for reasons to talk shit.

The torque is at a higher rpm which negatively contributes to the excessive wheel spin for an inexperienced driver.

This guy does realize that I'm chasing a local who's driving a 500hp Porsche GT car, right??

I'll say this.... Usually driving a Porsche up here, it took a bit to get used to size and weight of the Mustang GT. But once I got acclimated to it, it was very easy to guide through even Tail of the Dragon at speed. They're very underrated cars and I look forward to driving a 2015 in April up here.

Prolly new brake pads that arent worn in yet.

They are Hawk Performance Race Pads. They'll always sound like that. But you'll stop

What a blast and great video! Thank you!

@@J.F.-it4vt Always a blast on the hill. Especially following a great guy with a great machine.

They repaved since I went!! So it won't eat your tires as badly! Enjoy!

Thanks my man!! Was a blast!

They do have them for the 982. And yes they make a difference. Not as great a difference as with the flat 6 NA, but it makes the Flat 4 Turbo sound much better

It's a Fabspeed Supercup

@@caymanchronicles4753 sounds great, looking at installing a Soul Performance Exhaust on my 2014 Cayman Base. Any droning?

@@williamjackson5357 at about 3k rpm all modified exhausts have some drone. It's worth it tho

True it is. Thank you!

Thank you!! Gotta keep momentum up in this car. It's not very fast. Only 230HP to the wheels. Also gotta stay safe and keep others safe.

This was Wednesday. Before the event started

@@caymanchronicles4753 ah, gotcha. it definitely looked pretty empty

It's a great time. Lots of great people!!

Same to you!! Hope you're well!

@@caymanchronicles4753 I am forsure! Thank you! Glad to see ya still rippin! Take care buddy!

It's a drawback for sure. But everything else the Cayman offers far outweighs the gear ratios

I'm on dying Federal 595 RSRRs. 245/35/19 front and 275/35/19 rear. The only mod other than GT4 front fascia and wing and color change wrap is a Fabspeed Valvetronic exhaust. The only mod I concentrate on is driver mod. The rest of the car is stock Cayman S

That was a random moron driving a truck. 😂. We were fortunate he didn't hurt anyone and got out of our way.

As it should be!! And thank you for the comment and compliment!

No small feat. Well done!!!! I don't drive anything near this. Would I be wrong to wonder what a gear lower would have been like. I've come to learn that lugging is NOT a good thing ever. That guy with the surfboard cut more lanes than you boys.

​@@autonomousindividual7780I have to be in 2nd gear on almost all turns. The Cayman is a great car but it lacks torque and there must be 4000rpm or more to hit the power band. Always a gear down

The speed was off, as it was kept track by GPS on my phone. And right turns on public roads will always be higher G forces as the turn goes away from the oncoming lane

@@caymanchronicles4753 huh, you mean bc of the crown of the road? I thought the g sensor was rotated off kilter or something bc you dont look slower on the left handers. Never thought about the roads being off camber for left hand turns. And you prolly dont need accurate speeds posted for us to see haha

@@justwannasharevideo1058 actually, what I'm saying is since the right hand turns, regardless of camber (although most are positive camber), turn away from oncoming traffic rather than towards it and you can also cut the mayo (shoulder) and keep speed, your right hand turns will carry more speed and produce higher G forces. It's a "safer" environment than a left on a public road where there's oncoming traffic on your left.

I am always aware of the dangers this and other roads like it present. A cruiser in my lane is among them. I never push the car harder on a public road than I can safely drive it and stop it. But sometimes others do, and that's the risk we take when we use public roads to fill our itch for driving spiritedly. There are no trophies given on Tail of the Dragon, so my hope is that while the two drivers in this video were certainly driving more aggressively than most, the viewers come away knowing neither driver was concerned more with speed than safety. Thanks so much for the comment and Happy Easter.

@@caymanchronicles4753 - yep 10/10ths is a bad idea on public roads. Sometimes even 9/10th maybe too thin a margin.

@@caymanchronicles4753 - started driving the dragon in 2005. I’ve seen it go bad for cars & bikes but usually bikes. The worst was when emergency personnel were holding up sheets on the side of the road to block the view of something/someone. That’s was about 5 miles past Fontana Village on SR 28 towards Deals Gap. They had the road closed due to that accident. It was bad. I presume a fatality(s). Be safe & enjoy.

@@motorgearhead I try to keep it to 7/10ths. Even on track, I won't go 10/10. There's no room for error and that's my car. No sponsors. 😂

@@caymanchronicles4753 - same here….

It's pretty good. Neither the spring or fall TougeFest is scheduled during peak season, so the traffic is manageable

Always!! Driving is happiness

@@caymanchronicles4753 agreed! Stay safe my friend!

Thank you!! The Cayman S had Federal 595 RS-RRs on it. 245/35/19 on the front and 275/35/19 on the rear and they were about 3/4ths used up

Thank you very much!!

Likely good. Those S5s are beasts. They might understeer a bit, but they're Ali Quick

As a regular to TOTD, I'm aware that people commute through US129. When it was safe, the McLaren passed a slow vehicle, and where it wasn't, we patiently waited for the truck to pull over. Thanks for the compliment, and I'll tell ya that the McLaren's driver was amazing as was his car. Very few get 2 to 3 corners ahead of me on this road, and he sorta dusted me in areas. Also without crossing the center double yellow.

The driver of the McLaren is extremely talented. He also didn't cross the double yellow (mustard) at all. That car is amazing. I loved this Porsche, but that McLaren has a lot of the same advantages (mid-engine, phenomenal steering and braking, great balance) as well as twice the horsepower and torque and an equally talented driver. I can hang with almost any car and driver combo on this road. Not this one. Thank you for the comments and enjoy driving safely and with spirit

First week in November you can catch a ride with me up there!!

I'll be up there again from November 2-6. Ride alongs encouraged