LNWR Crook Street

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@cyborgbadger1015 4 күн бұрын

I would love to see a layout like this in N gauge or 2mm scale.

@dibsyardshuntinglayout 8 күн бұрын

Very, very informative. Thank you for sharing.

@railwaymechanicalengineer4587 10 күн бұрын

ABSOLUTE BLOCK OR PERMISSIVE BLOCK ??? If "Subsiduary" signals are provided at a Station to allow various shunting or "Calling on" procedures, then the "Absolute Block" method, is replaced by what is known as "Permissive Block" Within Station limits. Which can allow the fundamental "Absolute Block" rule of ONE train per running line in the whole area covered by a Signalbox to be modified. A subsiduary "Calling On" signal allows a second train to enter an already occupied platform, so breaks the fundamental "Absolute Block" rule. Hence "Permissive Block" rules now apply. The condition for more than one train in a platform is that Passenger & Freight are NOT allowed to be mixed. Only Light Engines" may enter an occupied platform, or a second passenger train. A freight train held in a platform, can be joined by a second freight or a light loco". So the fundamental rule here is to keep passenger and freight apart. Ringed arms incidentally, like shunting signals CANNOT be accepted by loaded passenger trains as an authority to move. Ringed arms give access to NON passenger lines or yards.

@lnwrcrookstreet9954 10 күн бұрын

Yep, that's my understanding too. Crook Street operates under the permissive block. To that end I've added a tiny rod to the recieving block instrument in the signal box to represent the plunger that allowed the signalman to accept (and provide line clear for) up to 10 trains into his station yard.

@railwaymechanicalengineer4587 9 күн бұрын

@@lnwrcrookstreet9954 Nice to know I'm not the last modeller to understand Block signalling rules and interlocking requirements. And that's a very nice layout you have there. Keep up the good work. Happy Modelling 😀

@PondersEndModelRailway 12 күн бұрын

lovely video, Happy new Year

@rawstonemodelrailway 13 күн бұрын

Great channel and videos only popped up on my homepage yesterday and hooked after only 2 videos. All the best for 2025 and look forward to catching up with your content ☺️ 👍

@JerseyBill-x9r 13 күн бұрын

Great little narrated shunting day in the yard at Crook Street. Jersey Bill

@MrVorpalsword 14 күн бұрын

masterful

@davidevans3070 14 күн бұрын

Can you do a layout tour with measurements please? I'm just starting out in o gauge it would be great help, cheers

@lnwrcrookstreet9954 13 күн бұрын

It's on my to do list. If you can get hold of a copy of the Gauge 0 Guild Small Layouts 3 book, it's in there with a dimensioned track plan.

@rodericfindlay4147 14 күн бұрын

Everything about the North Western had such character: locomotives, carriages, wagons, signal box, everything, and you have captured it beautifully. The station is reminiscent of the arrival side at Euston. My favourite locomotive is the Special 0-6-0T. I wonder what the crew thought. They were tough men in those days.

@lnwrcrookstreet9954 13 күн бұрын

Thanks a lot. I'd read somewhere that when cabs were first introduced, they were resisted by enginemen who regarded it as a matter of pride to withstand the elements - might have been ok at 30mph, not so much at 50 or 60!

@rodericfindlay4147 13 күн бұрын

@lnwrcrookstreet9954 When Kirtley introduced spectacle plates with a top slightly bent back to give a bit more protection, a deputation of enginemen came to see him to ask for the old design back because the North Western men were calling them sissies. Of course the only other methods of transport were horses and shank's pony, neither of which had cabs.

@davegower6919 14 күн бұрын

Very enjoyable to watch. Wishing you and yours all the very best for 2025.

@lnwrcrookstreet9954 13 күн бұрын

Thanks and a happy New year to you too!

@andyknott8148 14 күн бұрын

Interesting "Monks Ferry Steam Coal" wagons. I assume the "tubs" were designed to be hoisted direct. Almost a first containerisation. A quick Google "The boxes were lifted off wagons by the hooks with the door chains taut, and brought over a ship’s bunker. The door chains were then released, emptying the coal into the bunker beneath. Some nine companies are known to have used such wagons around the time of the Great War. With the change in ship’s fuel from coal to oil these wagons gradually became surplus to requirements. Some were converted or broken up. However it is known that many survived and joined the National Coal Board fleet, running into the 1950s.". Every day is a learning day.

@SDE1994 14 күн бұрын

they were for loading coal into steam ships in Birkenhead, its odd that they would be at Crook Street, they only worked between Monks Ferry wharf in Birkenhead and the collieries in Chester/Wrexham area

@lnwrcrookstreet9954 13 күн бұрын

Yes, that's right. Monks Ferry was the 'other' Birkenhead station, closed to passengers really early and used as a maritime coaling dock. Bit of a stretch to find them at Crook Street but I couldn't resist!

@robertbate5790 12 күн бұрын

Thank you for that, I was going to comment myself. I was wondering what happened if the got the tubs in the wrong order, would mess up the wording a bit. Lol 😂

@andyknott8148 12 күн бұрын

@@robertbate5790 Although tinged with Spike M. humour, it is an interesting thought. The photos I found all have the tubs in the right order. What happened if one needed a repair, did they have spares with the correct writing or did they take the entire wagon out of service?

@robertbate5790 12 күн бұрын

@@andyknott8148 We will never know, lol 🤣

@dibsyardshuntinglayout 14 күн бұрын

Nice, smooth operation, and relaxing to watch. Have you ever done a layout tour video?

@lnwrcrookstreet9954 13 күн бұрын

It's on my to do list, mind you my to do list is about 10 years long...!

@dibsyardshuntinglayout 13 күн бұрын

@lnwrcrookstreet9954 Ha ha! I fully understand. Just a thought though.... Well, maybe rather than a full, well-produced and edited video, like your normal ones, how about using your phone and take a quick (less than 60 seconds) Portrait orientation walk through clip, and post it as a KZbin "Short" instead? Requires no editing, or maybe just a little trim off either end at the most? Done and dusted in under 5 minutes. Also shorts might increase your audience as it is a different demographic that watch KZbin shorts.

@Avondaleandhalshawmoor 14 күн бұрын

All the best for 2025! Its always a pleasure to see and very inspiring that I'll never get bored of 😁

@johnmboon 14 күн бұрын

Love the tidbits of railway lore.

@Porschedude8 14 күн бұрын

Well done! 👏😊

@Shelfandtabletoplayouts00gauge 14 күн бұрын

Great to watch 👍

@marksmith3489 14 күн бұрын

Excellent as always, thank you 👍👍👍

@davidjones3758 14 күн бұрын

Brilliant layout,great video

@portrail3305 15 күн бұрын

Hay a North Staffs 5 plank, nice to see

@lnwrcrookstreet9954 13 күн бұрын

A bit sneaky really, it's a paint job on a Slater's Chas Roberts wagon.

@johnlewsey4458 15 күн бұрын

Is that a DX in the video?

@lnwrcrookstreet9954 13 күн бұрын

Yes, it's an SDX, a Gladiator kit. I've modelled it as the oldest loco at Plodder Lane and it's a bit shabby - soon to be scrapped.

@johnlewsey4458 15 күн бұрын

My A class is now running, my next project will probably be a Lady of the lake.

@lnwrcrookstreet9954 13 күн бұрын

That sounds good, Lady of the Lake sounds a good project.

@johnlewsey4458 15 күн бұрын

Brilliant

@darrenhillman8396 26 күн бұрын

What a fine locomotive! On a wonderfully atmospheric model. Believe it or not, watching your back catalogue of videos inspired me to join the LNWR Society to find out more about The Premier Line. Early days yet but highly interesting and informative. Your model has brought history to life. Bravo, Sir! 👏🏻👏🏻

@lnwrcrookstreet9954 25 күн бұрын

Brilliant! It's a fascinating railway. The problem I have is that they're all fascinating so which one do you choose! ATB

@davidjennings5380 Ай бұрын

Beautiful. The locos move with a real sense of weight, momentum and inertia. What scale is it please ?

@lnwrcrookstreet9954 Ай бұрын

Thanks David, it's 7mm 0 gauge. I think it's that plus DCC that produces the smooth running. ATB

@davidjennings5380 Ай бұрын

@ thank you 😊

@simonmoore7039 Ай бұрын

Absolutely superb. The compactness of the layout for 7mm is great, especially when you've captured Patricroft shed & the essence of Bolton great moor street whilst naming it off the adjacent goods yard superbly well. I'm just getting back into the hobby & building a coal tank in 4mm EM. I'm hoping to do something minories related whilst capturing great moor street.

@lnwrcrookstreet9954 Ай бұрын

Thanks Simon, you've seen through my deception! Minories is such a good design, good luck with your new layout. ATB

@JerseyBill-x9r Ай бұрын

I enjoyed the shunting and commentary plus the detail of the layout. This is my first visit to your site from a link from Hylton at "Proper Chuffed" and I subscribed. Well done, Jersey Bill

@lnwrcrookstreet9954 Ай бұрын

Brilliant! Thanks for the sub!

@DavidLawson1218 Ай бұрын

This is the very best. Simply marvellous.

@marksmith3489 Ай бұрын

Brilliant as always, the most realistic model railway.

@johnlewsey4458 Ай бұрын

Hi, how did you get the paving effect on the platforms ?

@lnwrcrookstreet9954 Ай бұрын

They're scribed artist's mount board, painted with household emulsion of a sort of buff colour then washed with dilute dark grey. Finally drybrushed with dark grey in mucky areas.

@johnlewsey4458 Ай бұрын

@lnwrcrookstreet9954 excellent, thanks

@darrenhillman8396 Ай бұрын

This model is truly magnificent. A glorious chapter of our railway history brought to life, with a succinct but warm narrative in combination with simply exquisite model-making. I am a huge fan of the L&NWR, along with the Wirral Railway and Mersey Railway, these were my local lines. In the civil engineering and signal box design, I can see elements of various Edge Hill locations, too. I could watch your videos all day! Bravo, Sir, for capturing the essence of the LNWR in 7mm finescale! 👏🏻👏🏻

@lnwrcrookstreet9954 Ай бұрын

Thanks very much Darren.

@garyspencer-salt4336 Ай бұрын

Outstanding

@davegower6919 Ай бұрын

You're right, the Puddle Lane Goods did depart at 8:55 , well by my clock it did anyway. LOL. Always enjoyable to watch. Any chance of a layout tour at some point please?

@lnwrcrookstreet9954 Ай бұрын

Thanks Dave, yeah I'm going to have to get round to that.

@kenattwood8060 Ай бұрын

Just a couple of questions regarding wagons seen on the layout... Please do not take them as being critical of your fantastic layout. (1) The use of Private Owner wagons to deliver coal to an LNWR steam shed. I have always been led to believe that this did not happen and that this was always carried out using railway owned stock - or is this a misconception on my part? (2) I thought that this was a pre-grouping layout yet I noticed an open wagon lettered N E in large letters, which I thought was a style not introduced until after grouping and the formation of the LNER - all pictures of North Eastern Railway goods wagons that I have seen being labeled N.E.R. in small letters. Sorry to be a pain - I am not a rivet-counter, just curious as I use your videos as a source for the lettering of some of the rolling stock on my own OO scale pre-grouping LNWR/GWR/MR layout.

@lnwrcrookstreet9954 Ай бұрын

Thanks Ken, no problem with the questions. Yeah, I'm not entirely sure about PO wagons supplying coal in their own wagons. I know Plodder Lane shed was supplied by Manchester Collieries in the '40s so 'I reckon...!' The NE came from the kit instructions, apparently the change occured pre-WW1 but as usual these things happened very gradually. ATB

@kenattwood8060 Ай бұрын

@@lnwrcrookstreet9954 Thanks for you answers, particularly the NE livery, I'll apply that one to my own layout as it will save me from having to buy some NER transfers for one or two wagons.

@stretchedits Ай бұрын

Hi, another great video as always and always a pleasure to watch. I was thinking watching this that if you went to an exhibition and shunting was done so realistically you'd soon get bored, yet weatching your video is just so relaxing and never boring..........I wonder why that is..............All the very best Dave.

@lnwrcrookstreet9954 Ай бұрын

Thanks Dave, yeah I often wonder if there's too much shunting in the videos. There's a lot more that I don't show! ATB

@stretchedits Ай бұрын

@@lnwrcrookstreet9954 Hi, funny, but in your videos it doesn't seem like too much shunting. You tell the story of what is happening which I think is great, I really enjoy your content.

@tompetty1880 Ай бұрын

I was wondering whether you would ever consider a ‘layout tour’ and outline of the construction methods, DCC. System that you use and the kind of room/shop where this wonderful model railroad is housed? I only ask as I too model in British O Scale for my own model railroad and am truly in awe of ‘Crook Street’. Those, I think you call them, ‘Stroudley’ cars/coaches, are so characterful. Thank you kindly for taking the time and trouble to record, post and edit such wonderful content, it really is appreciated.

@lnwrcrookstreet9954 Ай бұрын

@@tompetty1880Hi Tom, yes I've thought about doing 'how to' type videos, it's the usual problem of lack of time but it's definitely on the radar. A little info on the peculiarities of British railway practice, pre-1923 the railways were a multitude of private companies. Post-1923 they were grouped into 'the big four' LNER, LMS, GWR & SR. Crook Street is set in 1920 and the coaches are LNWR designs. William Stroudly was the chief mechanical engineer for the London Brighton and South Coast Railway, so their coaches would be designed by him. Apologies if you already know this but for someone on the big side of the pond, our little island's railways could be fiendishly complicated. ATB.

@simonmitchell4800 Ай бұрын

Great to see, thank you!

@MichealRandall-q2x Ай бұрын

You could just be stood there watching,with your jam cob and pop 😂

@roberthuron9160 Ай бұрын

Organized chaos,yet,the ballet of the freight and passenger services,never ceases to amaze! Noticed,that the Wigan train had an LNWR carrige added,didn't know rolling stock also got into interchange! Breaks up the consist,adds variety,and keeps the observer on his/her toes!! Thanks for an early Thanksgiving present! Thank you 😇 😊!

@lnwrcrookstreet9954 Ай бұрын

Thanks Robert, that coach is actually an old Manchester Sheffield and Lincolnshire Railway coach in GCR livery. The MS&L was the main constituent of the GCR. I think the original is in the Quainton Road museum. ATB

@petergeorgew6208 Ай бұрын

This surely has to be the best train layout ever ! … Great attention to detail and each vlog is so well narrated … Absolute perfection… 👏👏😊😊

@MU-2 Ай бұрын

Wonderfully realistic. Your editing and sound effects add so much to the storyline.👍

@Avondaleandhalshawmoor Ай бұрын

It's what Sundays are for....crook street on while keeping warm in the loft building on my layout......bliss!

@rodericfindlay4147 Ай бұрын

Magnificent. So good to see locos buffering up to wagons and coaches properly. Deansgate is superb. A very interesting and enjoyable sequence. Good to see all three platforms occupied by passenger trains. Thank you.

@lnwrcrookstreet9954 Ай бұрын

Thanks Roderic, yeah it's interesting to see how it pans out throughout the day, sometimes it quietens right down. ATB

@johnlewsey4458 Ай бұрын

Brilliant as always

@Porschedude8 Ай бұрын

Excellent! 👏😊