@@Crossgolld vou tentar, tô sem tempo pra jogar no momento.

@@Infidel. who said that? I didn't get it

@DefinitelyNotCertain To be honest, that was back when Woosa Awakening got released

@kyleyu9543 I don't know what you're doing wrong, 'coz I never had problems with these combos. Except when I'm with slows debuffs, most classes can't perform their combos well due to slow debuffs, woosa's isn't different from them.

@kyleyu9543 I recommend to try to debuff the target's evasion from afar then, since you have problems linking the RMB before shift Z.

@siyahozmum6381 I don't actually recommend her for anyone besides the ones that truly like her. If you enjoy her playstyle, aethetics, you should play it then. The recents changes doesn't change anything about her flaws. She's solid. Perform well in large scale scenarios, her x1 is kinda of bad against some classes. Her pve is good on the end game, most spots or all of them she can grind well, not as well as some S+ Tier classes, but well enough. She's comfy, not too much apm, if you enjoy the class then you should play her.

@@DefinitelyNotCertain Thanks o/

@@350z35th hahaha' Glad you liked it

@@rundevil1234 Kzarka with elkars Nouver with corrupted Awake with olukas Gryff helmet with human dmg The pink armor with special evasion Bheg's with the critical rate crystal Urugon's with stamina+resist crystals Accessories ALL AP with 1 earring that helps the black spirit rage fills faster. 262 AP total.

@@DefinitelyNotCertain Thank you so much for the detailed response!

The real reason people say that she's bad, it's because they don't know how to properly use her. She's not a monster of a class in terms of power, or anything like that, but in the right scenario or right gameplay she can perform really well. About the summons, there's a huge problem with them in the end game. Because the summon damage doesn't get affected by special damage buffs such as critical damage crystals like corrupted for examples, which is kinda bad, because most of the damaging crystals or artifacts that u can use in a regular classe, you can't with awakening woosa, due to the fact that summon's don't get species and special damage buffs. Also they've a AP cap, i dunno exactly how much is it, but i think it's around 301~309. So basically, even if u have like around 330 AP, your damage will be capped at some level. There's the problem that summon's don't often have critical rate, so with Woosa's you NEED to have the critical rate buffs active when you wanna deal damage. Regardless of anything else, if she is a class that you wanna play with, if u love her, just play it, whatever, you'll manage to make her work. But if you are a meta player or something like that, just stick with Maegu then, it's easier, and probably "better" overall. There's another option as well that is, you can just tag another class and have the exact same gear, and play both classes at any time, for example you literally can have both sisters, Woosa and Maegu. Since you like her so much, play her, and if u wanna be effective or just easy gameplay in either pve ou pvp, just switch to maegu :)

Você até consegue jogar com a classe somente no awakening, mas eu não recomendo de forma alguma. Ao abdicar da pré dela, você ta givando MUITA coisa que ela tem a te oferecer. Proteções, CC's, e principalmente burst damage, já que a essência de dar dano com a classe consiste em você setar as flores no awakening, pegar os buffs de taxa crítica, e terminar o combo na pré utilizando um mini burst combo com as sklills de lá, já que elas não tem taxa critica é essencial que você buffe critico no awakening. Se você combar SOMENTE com awakening skills você não vai dar dano 90% das vezes suficiente pra conseguir matar um alvo, fato. As skills que dão dano no awakening são as flores, e elas tem dano atrasado, e precise que o alvo esteja PARADO, ou seja num CC pra você conseguir encaixaer todo o dano, então vc depende das skills da pré pra conseguir dar algum dano além das flores. Por isso a pré awakening é muito necessária, as skills do awk tirando as flores não tem dano suficiente pelo tempo de animação delas. Se você realmente gosta muito da classe, infelizmente vc terá de aprender a usar a pré dela também. No meu guia pvp eu mostro basicamente como se faz, dá uma olhada lá depois.

There’s a timestamp in the video showing exactly what you asked for

Just the “F” skill (the kick that buffs AP) Locking this one, can give you a quick swap to awakening directly from the pre awakening kit just pressing F.

They added -9% evasion debuff on the “RMB” skill. So, when you are fighting someone that is an evasion, u just add RMB after the W RMB in the regular combo.

CC > S RMB > S LMB > W RMB > RMB > Shift Z > pre awk burst.

@@DefinitelyNotCertain okay bcs in the video you said 90 not 9 :D was a bit confused there

@@DefinitelyNotCertain how is your experience vs high eva targets with her like gauntles, stiker, mystic and how do you feel about her with the recent dr changes ?

@@Zecct There’s not much to say, Striker, Mystic is the base counter of magic classes, unless you have a grab, you won’t kill them unless they’re really bad, and specially with awk woosa, it’s really difficult to cc them due to their excessive super armors, plus, she’s not that great to deal damage without a CC, because of the flowers being stationary. Regardless of the issues, she can deal lots of damage in evasion targets with these new buffs. She can deal with them, but there’s a problem, even after the balance, she’s still a squishy class, so compared to before, I indeed can tank more, the SF/Space +20 DR is a good thing they did, but at the of the day, she’s just a mage. she’s definitely better than before for sure.

np

Ela performa melhor que a sucessão em DKZONA, mas de fato, em questão de proteção ela peca em relação à suc por falta de guardas frontais durante o combo. O que você pode fazer é se mover de acordo com o combo pra tentar negar mais dano. Você pode usar o "combo pre-awk", esse combinho da mais dano que usar o Shift Esquerdo ou o Shift F do awakening, mas requer swaps pra pré, e aumenta um pouco o APM da classe, mas aí é questão do que você prefere, lembrando que assim você casta mais guardas frontais também, o que nega dano, e pode utilizar o shift Esquerdo do awakening sempre que necessário.

Haha thanks, you should check it out the Montage II, I think it's better than this one :P

No. Awakening Woosa do not benefit from a lot of special damage, and species damage, so offensive crystals are not worth it. But any other class can use whatever they want. If u play suc maegu, u probably should use human damage crystals and stuff like that. Suc Woosa uses a whole different crystals than awakening woosa's for example. I don't recommend this setup for another class.

@@DefinitelyNotCertain Suc meagu use all human damage and ATK right?

@@ennyb2820 Depends on your playstyle, but since she's ranged, generally ranged classes uses offensive crystals such as, 4 human damage, corrupted, olukas, vipers, elkars.. But you can play more defensive with her as well, you're the one who decides.

@@DefinitelyNotCertain OK thanks you very much!!

O casting dela permanece o mesmo, é que eu casto as skills em uma ordem específica que eu descobri que as skills fluem muito melhor umas com as outras. Em relação à sua contraparte sucessão, early game meio que as duas performam bem, com a sucessão sendo minimamente superior. Mid game, definitivamente a sucessão. End game, ambas performam bem, mas a sucessão no geral performa melhor, mas não é tão discrepante. Há Spots como Dkzona(Devoreka cinto) que a awakening performa melhor que a sucessão. Spots como Yzrahid, a awakening consegue dar 1 fase na perna, o que faz com que ela consiga bater 40k+. Olun Dekia, Gyffin underground ela é muito boa também. O contra da woosa awakening eu diria ser, spots onde precise de mais guarda frontal devido a muito dano, coisa que a sucessão tem melhor. E de Pros, ela é tão boa quanto a sucessão, é mais questão de preferência, principalmente no END GAME, é bem tanto faz qual das duas você decide escolher. Eu jogo com ambas, mas eu majoritariamente jogo de awakening, e opto por ela o tempo todo kk

Oh, would you mind saying your nickname? I’d like to know who are u. Gf anyways

@@DefinitelyNotCertain My family name is Mudrets idk If you remember me

@@frozn-mango I think I don’t, I play a lot of games, it’s difficult to remember names :x sry, it’s nice to see someone that I have fought tho

@@DefinitelyNotCertain hahaha np

I think she’s okay, nothing changed that much. She’s resisting more like everybody else, but at the of the day she’s a squishy class. But I think she’s dealing a bit more damage compared to before.

She’s great if you know how to properly use her

There’s the skills icons in the UI, in the exact order that I press them when i’m doing the combos in the training arena. Rewatch it and if you still don’t get it, I can make a youtube shorts for you.

@@DefinitelyNotCertain thanks i just know that theres some console people that want to make it work so i think the shorts or something similar will help out in the long run

​@@DefinitelyNotCertain yea can we get that short because I can't tell what skills they are

hahaha, send them to me, I’ll try to help everyone as I can.

I learned from both of you lol

Juubee já testou e amou, recomendo.

No. If u pay attention there’s 2 clips demonstrating that combo when I’m talking about it, in both clips all flowers already explodes, and the enemy is supposed to get up at the end of the shift lmb or shift f animation. Like I said, sometimes it’s not enough damage to kill, so in one of the clips, I kill the maegu in the Shift Q after the shift lmb from awakening.

​​@@DefinitelyNotCertainNo matter how many times I see it When the W RMB line effect (flower) appears and When S RMB flowers are exploding after disappearing The doll appears to be Stand up. I feel like these flower damage can be escaped after the combo ends.

@@rinkyou3277 sometimes they indeed can scape but, it doesn't matter anyway, the combo 2 is just an example of how to combo so the CC won't be wasted. The ideal scenario is to cc in awakening stance, so you can perform her best combo, or CC with ShiftQ. If u cc with ShiftQ u can dash cancel the skill, swap to awakening with Flow: Seocheon Field, then follow the combo 1 from S+RMB etc.

oohh, that’s perfect! I hope you like the class.

i’m glad you liked it!

It's in the PVP GUIDE in the description or at the end of the video.

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It's in the PVP GUIDE in the description or at the end of the video.

Hahahaha

It'll be done I guess until next monday.

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It's an option, but I personally don't like to use it, only because it's 100% unprotected. I've already got lots of kills with that catch, but it's really difficult to use it depends on the enemy class, specially if they have a ranged cc, like DOD from Sorceress'. The class is too flawed due to it's lack of protection, and most of the time I get CCed and die.

Eu estava entediado de jogar com a classe, e estava procurando uma nova experiência. Sempre gostei da Woosa no geral, desde seu lançamento, e sempre gostei da estética do awakening, devido ao livro, visualmente acho espetacular, e nunca entendia por quê ninguém a usava. Quando comecei a jogar com ela, entendi o porquê da classe não ser tão popular. No geral ela é bem medíocre em quase tudo que se propõe, e bem esquisita de se jogar. A classe é toda desengonçada, e travada, mas aprendendo a jogar com ela e seus "macetes", ela se torna perfeitamente jogável, apesar dos pesares. Em resumo é isso, gosto da classe, decidi jogar e aprende-la, independente de qualquer coisa!

@@DefinitelyNotCertain você recomendaria algum guia para ajudar a entender a classe? tenho o mesmo sentimento que você pela classe e pelo estilo (arte, visuais) e queria entender melhor esses "macetes"

​@@AkisameTojiNão conheço nenhum guia de fato bom. Tudo que aprendi foi sozinho jogando mesmo e testando. O que você pode fazer, é ver meu guia pve, e ler os comentários do meu vídeo pvp 1 e 2. Tem muitas explicações sobre a classe.

@@DefinitelyNotCertain muito obrigado

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER

@@DefinitelyNotCertain You get good fps with good graphics. How is it possible with 1660?

@@eneskonuk7621 With AMD Fidelity Activated ingame, I get around 100 stable FPS in combat. There's not much to say here, it's just a 1660 with a Ryzen 5 3600.

It's nice to see another awk woosa main and it's also rare. <3

Te entendo. Estou atualmente 'preso' na sorcerer, mas não posso linkar outra classe, pois meu atual main é a Woosa Awk(Linkada), sad

She's definitely not appreciated enough

Nope. The S+RMB doesn't even have a knockdown CC on it. I always extend my combos with Shift+Z (knockdown Rabam) or F (NetherStrike). The S+RMB > S+LMB + W+RMB part of the combo is just for the traps, bombs, addons, buffs, and debuffs. Since S+RMB and W+RMB are delayed damage (trap), I need to cast them immediately after I get an enemy CC. I cast them in this specific order because the skills cancel within themselves: S+RMB (trap + addon of -DP and Bleed) S+LMB (20 AP buff + ACC/-Eva addons) W+RMB (critical rate buff 50% + 30% critical rate and Human damage addons) After these three skills, I extend the combo with Shift+Z (if available) and finish the combo in pre-awakening, using Shift+F (down attack and crit damage addons) > Shift+E > S+LMB > Shift+LMB. If Shift+Z is on cooldown, I can extend the combo in awakening using NetherStrike (F) and fillers like Shift+LMB/Shift+F for additional damage (though this probably won't be enough to kill, as awakening skills don't deal enough damage besides the traps). So, the best scenario for awakening Woosa is to play around the Life Lure (Shift+RMB) and Flow: Seocheon Field (RMB after Life Lure) bombs as a zoning area. If you CC someone with these bombs or with another skill like S+E (pretty common), you can just follow the combo as I described earlier. By the way, the W+RMB delayed Knockdown is a "make sure" that the enemy will get extended as a second knockdown CC, right after Shift+Z or F if they resist it.

​@@DefinitelyNotCertainwow thanks for a detailed explanation! I was wondering why you cast W+RMB later than the usual W+RMB>RMB (S+RMB) for easier input. I'll considsr this situation too and work around her combo

you're welcome!?

Da uma olhada no vídeo 2, está na descrição. Nele mostra addons/artefatos/cristais e gear que uso.

It's difficult to exemplify combos with the Awakening Woosa, but I can try to explain how her damage works. You need to adapt to the CC/Cooldown time of her abilities and combos. As seen in the video, most "catch CC" occurs in S+E (Awakening). An example of a combo would be: CC > Bombs from W+RMB, S+RMB, and AP Buff from S+LMB, extension with knockdown (Shift Z, which also transitions to pre-awakening), and you finish the combo with Shift F > Shift E > S LMB > Shift LMB. The inputs are: SE > S RMB > S LMB Left > W RMB > Shift Z > Shift F > Shift E > S LMB > Shift LMB. If it's a pre-CC, like SE, Shift Z, E, WE, you can use some of these abilities like SF - Shift F - Shift E, and extend with F (kick), then use S RMB > S LMB > W RMB, and finish with Shift LMB or Shift F from Awakening. Finishing the combo in Awakening is not ideal, but you need to combine the bombs and get the critical rate buff so she can deal damage with the flowers and the pre-awakening kit, because those skills don't have a critical rate. Therefore, 50% critical rate from W+RMB, 30% from the Add-ons, and 18% from the passive result in a 98% critical rate. It's very important to maintain critical rate buffs during the combo. In general, what you always try to do is get a CC, combine the bombs/critical rate buff, extend with Shift Z, and finish in pre-awakening because the Awakening skills don't deal enough damage to kill. And i haven't done a guide yet, but I'll make one soon.

Damn, thanks for the insight​@@DefinitelyNotCertain

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It's difficult to exemplify combos with the Awakening Woosa, but I can try to explain how her damage works. You need to adapt to the CC/Cooldown time of her abilities and combos. As seen in the video, most "catch CC" occurs in S+E (Awakening). An example of a combo would be: CC > Bombs from W+RMB, S+RMB, and AP Buff from S+LMB, extension with knockdown (Shift Z, which also transitions to pre-awakening), and you finish the combo with Shift F > Shift E > S LMB > Shift LMB. The inputs are: SE > S RMB > S LMB Left > W RMB > Shift Z > Shift F > Shift E > S LMB > Shift LMB. If it's a pre-CC, like SE, Shift Z, E, WE, you can use some of these abilities like SF - Shift F - Shift E, and extend with F (kick), then use S RMB > S LMB > W RMB, and finish with Shift LMB or Shift F from Awakening. Finishing the combo in Awakening is not ideal, but you need to combine the bombs and get the critical rate buff so she can deal damage with the flowers and the pre-awakening kit, because those skills don't have a critical rate. Therefore, 50% critical rate from W+RMB, 30% from the Add-ons, and 18% from the passive result in a 98% critical rate. It's very important to maintain critical rate buffs during the combo. In general, what you always try to do is get a CC, combine the bombs/critical rate buff, extend with Shift Z, and finish in pre-awakening because the Awakening skills don't deal enough damage to kill. And i haven't done a guide yet, but I'll make one soon.

@@DefinitelyNotCertain this was really insightful, I look forward to the guide because I am getting my ass handed to me in GL but really don't want to swap to succession e.e

@@bobnorman3094 Technically, you don't need to wait for a guide, because everything I would say in a guide video is already here in the comments section of both videos, part 1 and part 2. In the PVE video guide, there's information on movement, swaps, and PVP videos. Plus, what I mentioned in the comments between these videos together already forms the guide. You can clearly see in the PVP videos the swaps I showed in the PVE guide, and the same movement. In the comment section, I already explain how I make the combo in every scenario and describe how I actually play with her

@@DefinitelyNotCertain cool beans, i'll have a look later on.

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When I have the time, I can manage to do one.

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