What Was Ping Pong Diplomacy?
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Fred Perry's Table Tennis Career
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@GhanaTableTennis
@GhanaTableTennis 3 күн бұрын
You could not have said it any better
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 2 күн бұрын
@@GhanaTableTennis thank you! There's always room for improvement though 😁
@krissalkond
@krissalkond 5 күн бұрын
I wonder how much of their retire reasons are from the ghoulish training regiment that is forced on them.
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 5 күн бұрын
Yup, professional sports are pretty brutal and I imagine some players just want a break (hopefully without getting fined!)
@krissalkond
@krissalkond 5 күн бұрын
@@TableTenniswithAsh Some people have even suggested bullying.
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 5 күн бұрын
@@krissalkond interesting. I hope that's not the case
@dongiovanni8899
@dongiovanni8899 5 күн бұрын
They don't mind ranking points deductions but don't agree with money fines.
@G82Watts
@G82Watts 5 күн бұрын
Theres no way people dont throw matches 😂 theres a reason hard rock always gives bonuses to mainly table tennis. Its a way to hook someone winning to much on their site
@Yamagata-borealis
@Yamagata-borealis 5 күн бұрын
The Champ should always get a chance (wild card if needed) to defend the title. Fix it to the next og please!
@KrazyKanucker
@KrazyKanucker 5 күн бұрын
In the Chess world, they recently bent the rules to accommodate Magnus Carlson. They should adjust the TT rules. You can't lose the best player FZD.
@mrmr1964
@mrmr1964 5 күн бұрын
That's OK, Chinese Super League, German League, and probably the UK or French League will be beneficiaries of FZD playing for money, and good on him.
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 5 күн бұрын
The power of the leagues could grow out of this. Yup, all the best to FZD
@dongiovanni8899
@dongiovanni8899 5 күн бұрын
Lin Gaoyuan recently joined a German club in the league
@ministryofvoiddeckttsgp
@ministryofvoiddeckttsgp 6 күн бұрын
Wtt is started by Chinese. Why the nonsense now..
@Carsrus007
@Carsrus007 6 күн бұрын
I just went 0-12 in live table tennis 😂😂😂fixed for sure
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 6 күн бұрын
@@Carsrus007 yup, rigged!
@Roamuopia
@Roamuopia 8 күн бұрын
But i think blame has also be put on the ctta for blocking chen meng, fzd, ma long for benefit of ln shidong and wang chuzqin
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 8 күн бұрын
Could be! What goes on behind the scenes within CTTA is a mystery to me
@ncrean66
@ncrean66 6 күн бұрын
Blocking from ctta is the main reason, of course). Recall that Liu Guoliang is the wtt chairman also.
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 6 күн бұрын
@@ncrean66 interesting. I guess we will just have to wait and see how this all develops
@dongiovanni8899
@dongiovanni8899 5 күн бұрын
actually for the benefits of other countries' associations to diminish chinese winning rate and also WTT business to attract more participants and viewers from other countries😁
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 5 күн бұрын
@dongiovanni8899 maybe there's some silver linings from this. However, I think this is not the end of the story!
@manasg.a.202
@manasg.a.202 8 күн бұрын
Players are not salaried employees of the WTT. WTT is powered, solely, by the talent and hard work of the players. At the moment, Steve Dainton and his cabal at WTT are treating international Table Tennis as their personal fiefdom, and the players as their serfs. This needs to stop. I hope the players get together and form a union and fight for their rights. Also, it's a shame that hardly anyone batted an eyelid when Quadri Aruna was fined. Thanks a lot for speaking about him! And of course, kudos to both Chen Meng and Fan Zhendong for taking this bold, bold step. They made sure everyone knew what a pathetic bunch those at the top of WTT are. Anyway, it would be a real shame if we never get to see Fan Zhendong and Chen Meng in international events again. While I am at it, might as well say the side camera angle utterly sucks. Rant over.
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 8 күн бұрын
@@manasg.a.202 some pretty fair points there! I like your line that "WTT is powered, solely, by the talent and hard work of the players". It's so true, particularly when it comes to players like Quadri. The man has carried a continent!
@payanshonim
@payanshonim 3 күн бұрын
I had to stop watching TT when side angle was introduced
@sentrao1829
@sentrao1829 13 күн бұрын
I have seen a lot of matches where the better player lets the worse player win 2 sets and 6 points, and then he starts to win point after point, humiliating him until he wins the match. I don't know how betting companies like Bet365 still work with these leagues. It's not all about the money
@sentrao1829
@sentrao1829 13 күн бұрын
Nowadays, those polaks and russian leagues are all fixed... maybe 7 years ago you could find any fixed match... now you can find 1 in 10 which is not fixed
@barrycroucher602
@barrycroucher602 26 күн бұрын
in my honest opinion I feel that long pips give any player a tremendous advantage . That's why I have just changed my bat to long pips
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 26 күн бұрын
@@barrycroucher602 it certainly throws opponents off who aren't used to it. I speak from experience, losing to old guys who can barely move who use pips. Best of luck with the switch!
@ievastrolyte1057
@ievastrolyte1057 Ай бұрын
I am reading Ping-pong diplomacy right now and it is so interesting. I will be looking into Klaus Fusch next.
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh Ай бұрын
@@ievastrolyte1057 Ping-Pong Diplomacy was a big part of my inspiration/researchfor this video. So many interesting little stories that run parallel to Ivor's life
@chosett
@chosett Ай бұрын
They are indeed a force to be reckoned with. You mentioned Kim Hyok Bong who won the Mixed Doubles title with Kim Jong in 2013. He also beat Joo Sae Hyuk at the 2012 London Olympics. I believe he's now the head coach for the current North Korean team. He was at both the Paris Olympics and Asian Championships as coach. As for Kim Kum Yong, she has the potential to become the next world champ. True, she hasn't met Chen Meng or Wang Manyu who as somebody mentioned here, are known to eat long pips players for lunch. We'll just have to wait and see. But for now, I'll go with KKY.
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh Ай бұрын
@@chosett it does appear Kim Hyok Bong is the head coach (or a man who is the spitting image). That definitely gives them some experience on the sidelines that the players themselves lack. No doubt Team China will be studying KKY's game very closely. They are good at that! Yep, we'll just have to wait and see
@benthekeeshond545
@benthekeeshond545 Ай бұрын
Long pips players have the initial advantage. After a few more encounters, a long pips player won't be much a threat. Besides, Kim Kum Yong has not encountered Chen Meng or Wang Manyu yet. Both Chen and Wang are known to eat long pips players for lunch.
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh Ай бұрын
@@benthekeeshond545 it could well be the case that Chen Meng and Wang Manyu will have no issue with KKY, so the draw in draw could play a big part
@thinzarkhine9513
@thinzarkhine9513 Ай бұрын
Very informative, great work!👍👍
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@pansarbobo7477
@pansarbobo7477 Ай бұрын
Welcome back Ash!!!!!
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh Ай бұрын
@@pansarbobo7477 thank you Pansar! Its good to hear from you too
@boonebeasley9622
@boonebeasley9622 Ай бұрын
Yes it’s clearly rigged
@ouechmaggle992
@ouechmaggle992 2 ай бұрын
All the people who saud Félix can't beat the Chinese, where are you now that he crushed 4-0 the world number 2 ?
@jonnexmuchiri
@jonnexmuchiri 2 ай бұрын
I thought it was not real on fixings ohh a good video
@Sid-uu8of
@Sid-uu8of 2 ай бұрын
Here after tomokazu won the asian championship
@starking1187
@starking1187 3 ай бұрын
Hi Ash, hope you're doing well. Your channel has a lot of potential so I do hope you upload more. It's been a month since your last upload and I'm starting to miss your content 😢
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 3 ай бұрын
@@starking1187 Hi! I am well thank you Don't worry, there will be more videos coming! (Although I am not sure when) Life has got in the way recently and I have just been too busy. I really appreciate the support
@4775willy
@4775willy 3 ай бұрын
Cheaters are disgusting 🤮
@macdre2412
@macdre2412 3 ай бұрын
It’s 100,000,000 percent rigged
@ncrean66
@ncrean66 4 ай бұрын
Chen Meng for sure.
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 4 ай бұрын
@@ncrean66 she's in the conversation now!
@Abgamer45117
@Abgamer45117 4 ай бұрын
I mostly trade in Czech liga pro I see stats before placing trade but good information
@katadromeasgr
@katadromeasgr 4 ай бұрын
The most rigged sport in any sport. 1v1, keeps it simple, simple is the nature of the sport too, hell I used to play locally and was decent. It isnt the same to rig an 11v11 football match as it is to rig a 1v1 hitting a small ball around. Fonbet supports it all, has a 1k bet limit. Fonbet is Russian. 😂
@PraisePrayPeace
@PraisePrayPeace 4 ай бұрын
good
@kennethrodriguez8895
@kennethrodriguez8895 4 ай бұрын
My first time finding out about this i lost like $600 then turned mt last 250 ish dollars to like 13k in one night live betting on table tennis. I got lucky and quit - i still bet with $10 here n there, but they took out the main bet i did winning 13k which was betting on even/odd points and even was almost always hitting
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 4 ай бұрын
@@kennethrodriguez8895 very interesting and a nice win! Did you have any other strategy like any knowledge of the players?
@kennethrodriguez8895
@kennethrodriguez8895 4 ай бұрын
@TableTenniswithAsh I didn't know a thing didn't even watch the lives just got lucky for like 8 hours straight was up til 6am just so lucky I couldn't even believe it
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 4 ай бұрын
@@kennethrodriguez8895 haha sounds like a fun night!
@munnabhai1496
@munnabhai1496 3 ай бұрын
in which table tennis league you pleases bet please answer 🙏
@3dprintworld503
@3dprintworld503 4 ай бұрын
Can you please talk about the potential match-fixing considering how disappointed the coaches looked when Chen Meng won?
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 4 ай бұрын
@@3dprintworld503 China certainly has a past on things like this. However, I don't think there was anything funny going on this case. I think the disappointment from some of team China is that they are fully behind project Sun Yingsha and Chen Meng upset the party. It seems that Chinese fans too just aren't as warm to Chen Meng as they are with Sun Yingsha
@3dprintworld503
@3dprintworld503 4 ай бұрын
@@TableTenniswithAsh Even so, that's just so sad. Imagine winning gold and your entire team doesn't even congratulate you.
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 4 ай бұрын
@@3dprintworld503 yeah, it was a little sad. Chen Meng deserves a lot of respect!
@youwaiyap2708
@youwaiyap2708 4 ай бұрын
@@TableTenniswithAsh [1] Re "match-fixing"? Nawwww; [2] Re "SYS's fans"? SYS's fans are 1/2 decade apart from ChMeng's fans and due to socio-econ devt in China, those fans are relatively wealthier and can spend more time & money idolizing the deemed superstar; [3] Re "sombre mood": SYS's sponsors were ready with their narrative in their pre-planned A&Ps but ChMeng disrupted their proceeeding? 🤭🤭🤣🤣
@arshiachidambaram7764
@arshiachidambaram7764 4 ай бұрын
Well this didn't age well
@jackyjackson604
@jackyjackson604 5 ай бұрын
Zhang, followed by Deng..... it's more than stats or win numbers, it's how the players get those stats and wins. Zhang just put fear in her opponents, destroy everything.....
@ATReaves
@ATReaves 5 ай бұрын
After winning the gold in the men's singles at the Paris Olympic Games, Fan Zhendong completed his career Grand Slam, becoming the sixth male table tennis player in the history of table tennis to achieve the Grand Slam (Olympic Games, World Table Tennis Championships, World Cup). In addition, Fan Zhendong has won the World Table Tennis Championships, the World Cup, the National Games, the National Championships, the Tour Finals, the Asian Games, the Asian Championships and the Asian Cup in his career. He has completed the "Super Grand Slam" and became the third table tennis player to complete the "Super Grand Slam" after Deng Yaping and Ma Long!
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 5 ай бұрын
@@ATReaves not a bad career! (So far)
@Albert_lm
@Albert_lm 5 ай бұрын
I just found out your channel and I must say it's great, I'm looking forward to watch every video of it. Keep up the good work!
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 5 ай бұрын
@@Albert_lm thanks!
@abhishekdutta144
@abhishekdutta144 5 ай бұрын
Frances mens team is very strong this time. With the home support its gonna be a treat. Rooting for alexi he is a beast in team game. Remember the time he was close to defeat fan in ittf worlds. Anyways hope for an upset .
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 5 ай бұрын
@@abhishekdutta144 I would love to see it. At the Busan Team World Champs earlier this year, China was too strong for them but as you say, they have the home support this time!
@lucoyoung3285
@lucoyoung3285 5 ай бұрын
This was a great game I didn’t see the Chen meng win coming, can put it down to experience and mentality maybe? Can you make a video on S.G. Pyong of North Korea? I find it insane that she was able to take hiyata (the clear 3rd best female in the world) all the way to seven sets and gave her an even better fight than Shin Yu Bin in the bronze medal match. If this happened in any other sport people would be losing their minds lol
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 5 ай бұрын
@@lucoyoung3285 it was a great game. Regarding S. G. Pyong, she was very impressive throughout! I don't know if I will make a video about her specifically but I'd love to make a video about North Korean table tennis because it's very intriguing
@mautachuma2998
@mautachuma2998 5 ай бұрын
Back after Chen Meng defends her title 🙏🏾💪🏾
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 5 ай бұрын
@@mautachuma2998 haha yes! A great achievement for Chen Meng but I have to admit I was surprised she won
@olissime01
@olissime01 5 ай бұрын
Shen Meng entered History.
@UUSER142
@UUSER142 5 ай бұрын
She is a true legend
@olissime01
@olissime01 5 ай бұрын
@@UUSER142 she is indeed, I really like her.
@DannyWeinbaum
@DannyWeinbaum 5 ай бұрын
Really appreciate you doing these videos! Our sport has so little coverage or discussion.
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 5 ай бұрын
@@DannyWeinbaum really appreciate your comment! Here in the UK, there's been very little table tennis discussion in the media
@stormvillians
@stormvillians 5 ай бұрын
They sell the picks
@FixedTableTennis
@FixedTableTennis Ай бұрын
Check my page if you wanna see real fixed matches for free
@sparkxz154
@sparkxz154 5 ай бұрын
well we now know they shoulda sent Ma Long. the GOAT would NEVER lose in the round of 32
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 5 ай бұрын
@@sparkxz154 hindsight is a wonderful thing but would have been great to see the GOAT in singles action
@minnchi5125
@minnchi5125 5 ай бұрын
N Korea got silver in women's synchronized diving too (China got gold). Crazy!
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 5 ай бұрын
@@minnchi5125 North Korean sport is fascinating
@minnchi5125
@minnchi5125 5 ай бұрын
@TableTenniswithAsh Yeah I mean they're very competent in the few Olympic sports they do compete in. My friend was like "North Korea has sports?" 😆 I was like ikr?
@Roamuopia
@Roamuopia 5 ай бұрын
20 year tradition has been broken, really amazing. In my eyes the broken bat isnt an excuse for wangs lost. Pros usually have 2 or 3 copies of the exact same racket for those szenarios. Also they change cobstantly changing their rubbers 3-5 days. So the argument that he had to addept to his new racket is just false. Pros should be used to changing their racket, people are reacting like he change fron zlc carbon racket with dignics rubbers to a beginner racket. I morely think wang lost because of his mentality and moregardhs playing style. Wang didnt looked well in his game and missed a lot of his forehand top spins and backhand flick. The chinese also have a weakness for non-conventional play. When wang chuqin was playing wang yang he had big problems in the first set and he needed to adapt later on. Or when the chinese women team nearly list to india at wttc busan. Moregardh playing style is very different involving a lot of chop blocks and his super special serve, something players are usually not used to fight against. I think those factors combined explain why in the end wang chuqin lost. (Also moregardh mentality today was on top today, like this man went on killer mode 💀)
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 5 ай бұрын
@@RoamuopiaDefinitely, WCQ shouldn't have let a broken bat affect him but he was so mad after that final! A wild over reaction. Watching Truls play is always a delight PS: thanks for your comments as always!
@TrystwithTableTennis
@TrystwithTableTennis 5 ай бұрын
Also, after his loss, WCQ clarified that it wasnt the broken bat that led to his loss... he blamed himself only. Another thing to note: after his loss, WCQ warmly shook hands with Truls and said "Good Match", and that i think is such a huge display of humility and grace coming from a chinese player who has just lost. My respect for him just multiplied manifold 🙏🙌❤
@Roamuopia
@Roamuopia 5 ай бұрын
@@TableTenniswithAsh 🤩🤩🤩
@Roamuopia
@Roamuopia 5 ай бұрын
@@TrystwithTableTennis 😘
@shanelawson5072
@shanelawson5072 5 ай бұрын
I think he succumbed to the pressure. Anything other than a win is not acceptable to China.
@noah7477
@noah7477 5 ай бұрын
#thecameramandidit
@rangersfan8499
@rangersfan8499 5 ай бұрын
Great guess on the doubles table tennis. Big upset for men's singles!!!!
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 5 ай бұрын
@@rangersfan8499 a massive upset, it's wide open now!
@chosett
@chosett 5 ай бұрын
I was cheering for the North Korean team in the mixed doubles gold medal match against China's Wang and Sun. They were the underdogs and although they lost 4-2, they put up a good fight. What a pity, North Korea is ruled by a ruthless dictator. They didn't compete in the Tokyo Olympics, but they did in the Rio 2016 Games. Their outstanding player then was Kim Song I and she won a bronze medal in the Women's single event. At that time she was one of the world's best choppers/defenders.
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 5 ай бұрын
@@chosett it is a shame we don't get to see more of their wonderful players but I guess there are things bigger than sport
@flaviosouza4449
@flaviosouza4449 5 ай бұрын
I found our channel right now and i already can see it's good stuff. Friendly greetings from Brazil🎉
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 5 ай бұрын
@@flaviosouza4449 thank you! I find it amazing that anyone watches and appreciate your comments
@flaviosouza4449
@flaviosouza4449 5 ай бұрын
Very deep reflexion, my friend. Really good video. Greetings from Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.
@TableTenniswithAsh
@TableTenniswithAsh 5 ай бұрын
@@flaviosouza4449 thank you!