This video has a great deal of content. I have watched it more than once. Great summary of what is in here at mark 35.00. Thanks Jimmie, keep making great Boxmaster and DWay tools.
@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin2220Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Would also add that unlike when you use a light touch to sharpen your bowl gouges, when sharpening your Neg Rake Scrapers - don't be afraid to push in harder to create a good burr. A coarser grit is also optimum if you have the option
@laurieaardal54393 ай бұрын
I made my first one today. Super easy. I want more!
@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin22203 ай бұрын
Thanks Laurie. I’m looking forward to seeing your handle. Now you have a tool handle for your tools that you can not buy!!!
@larryweinberg11914 ай бұрын
Way to go in displaying your quality tools. D-Way steel is quality.
@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin2220Ай бұрын
Whoo-Hoo, couldn't agree more.
@donnorton73044 ай бұрын
I recently purchased one of these and made a handle. It is extremely easy to do holds the tool well and I really want more of them I only purchased one size. There is just something about a wooden Handle That I like better .
@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin2220Ай бұрын
Great way of making something you can use every day! Thanks for the comment.
@ericlofstrom88584 ай бұрын
Nice video Jimmie! Great project for ANY woodturner, beginner to expert! Thanks for creating the hardware to make this possible.
@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin2220Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful! I try to put out there things that I would like to use.
@michaelluksich70134 ай бұрын
Great video....nice that you address all level of turners. Alway the best products!!!!
@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin2220Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@trueaperture19294 ай бұрын
Thank you Jimmie...good seeing you; wonderful product!
@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin2220Ай бұрын
Thanks for the note. Have fun making them.
@CarlJacobson4 ай бұрын
Very cool!
@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin22204 ай бұрын
Thanks Carl. Coming from you - that means a lot!
@NillWill4 ай бұрын
Thanks Jimmie!
@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin22204 ай бұрын
Appreciate the support. Happy Turning...Jimmie
@lorriebuxton20416 ай бұрын
Thanx for the idea bought a shop smith recently hated the rest had a broken mac 3/8 extension cut off female end and jb welded it love the rest now
@jimmieallen49656 ай бұрын
Thanks for the note Lorrie - glad it worked out. Feel free to contact us if you have any other woodturning questions.
@Treesapped11 ай бұрын
Off topic question: I have the long black lathe handles from Simple Woodturning, what is the round tightener for the set screw called, if you want to order some, that you have one yours? Thanks.
@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin222011 ай бұрын
Sounds like you are referring to the Quick Change Knobs sold on our d-waytools.com website (d-waytools.com/quick-change-knob/) - they allow you to position the tool to your desired length of reveal, and allow for quick removal for sharpening.
@Treesapped11 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@klausalan Жыл бұрын
I finally bought the 5/8” double-sided flat bottom boxmaster tool. It’s much more beafy than it looks online. Works so much better than anything I’ve used in the past. Holds an edge well even in rock maple.
@randalcarter3386 Жыл бұрын
I have a Craftsman lathe from the 70's, and the tool rests have a 7/8" shaft, so I have very little options to replace them, in fact none that I know of. I decided to try this, and it is a great concept, and quality product, BUT . . . there is one important aspect that is overlooked in this method: How your hand rests up to the tool rest from the bottom side of the tool. My hand used to rest in a curved area comfortably, and now it is up against a the top corner of the rest, and is very uncomfortable. A much better solution would have been a flat bar that provides a comfortable resting point for your hand. I am ditching this idea after spending $30+ on it, and having a local machine shop add a new top edge that allows your guide hand a comfortable resting place for about the same cost. I believe the D-Way Upgrade is a good choice for certain tool rests, but certainly it wasn't for mine. Something that should have been thought out better. Good luck all!
@johnreplinger4627 Жыл бұрын
I bought a D-Way steel rod in March 2023 and installed it on my Powermatic tool rest following the directions on this video. It was not hard to do and I am happy with the results. I recommend this product.
@salesaccount1989 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much John, appreciate the feedback. Glad to hear it is working out so well for you. ~ Jimmie
@user-ot4mk3hd6j Жыл бұрын
I picked one up at the Oregon symposium, took it home and followed the simple instructions. I'm very happy with the results. My tools don't catch anymore, and I can drop the tool handle lower for a better shearing angle. Best inexpensive upgrade I've made to my lathe.
@jimmieallen5962 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Pat - appreciate your input.
@CarlJacobson Жыл бұрын
Great video guys, I would love to see more of these videos :)
@fishhuntadventure Жыл бұрын
3:20 doesn't the tape just burn when you weld it?
@jimmieallen5962 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment. There is no welding involved in the tool rest top bar installation - it would ruin the heat treating. JB Weld is an epoxy for metal and provides the adhesion needed to securely attach the rod to your existing tool rest. - Jimmie
@crackerjack3359 Жыл бұрын
Instead of using popsicle sticks I found that a couple of small magnets worked great
@jimmieallen5962 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. Always have appreciated how the woodturning community reaches out and does what they can to help each other out.
@deyyoung42 Жыл бұрын
Using isopropyl (or rubbing) alcohol for cleanup of epoxy works just fine. It is not as concentrated as denatured, and it does contain water, but for cleanup that doesn't really matter much. Since these rods are hardened, it seems like you could also make custom scraping tools out them? Sounds like something worth trying out 🤔
@VincesWoodNWonders Жыл бұрын
That's my screw driver!!!
@russprior783 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Guys! Always nice to review your sharpening techniques--I learn something new every time.
@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin2220 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Russ - appreciate your comments. HAPPY TURNING1
@tailher12 жыл бұрын
Green wood. Try that for the same amount of time on seasoned wood
@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin22202 жыл бұрын
Kent, thanks for watching the video. To your point, all wood used (in this video) was bone dry eastern maple. The burr on the tool was created using our 80 grit CBN wheel. If you have any of these tools and need assistance in usage or fine tuning your sharpening, feel free to contact us. Jimmie / D-Way & Boxmaster Tools / 360 689-4541
@Ethan-pb3jq2 жыл бұрын
I did this some six months ago. I’m not an every day turner but among the turnings I’ve done were some very large, rough and bumpy pieces. No failures and the problem of my tools hanging up on the stock rest are gone. In fact this upgrade is smoother than my aftermarket Robust rests. Very happy with the upgrade.
@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin22202 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input Ethan.
@pjseiber27742 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible for a very experienced welder to spot weld it without it warping?
@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin22202 жыл бұрын
Possibly, but you could end up with the steel being softer in that area. The welding process may damage the heat treating in that spot.
@pizzawarlord92322 жыл бұрын
Well I know what I will be ordering
@jaysimmons23192 жыл бұрын
Suggest that folks wear nitrile gloves when contacting epoxies as allergies to the parts are not uncommon
@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin22202 жыл бұрын
Good point - PPE should always be a consideration.
@barrykeller63452 жыл бұрын
If I took it to a welder, could they attach it more solidly? Or are the metals too different for that to work?
@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin22202 жыл бұрын
No, not if you want to retain the steel's hardness. At every point you weld it, it will ruin the heat treating and potentially warp the rod.
@HodgePodgeWoodWorks2 жыл бұрын
Well, that seems easy enough...Might as well give it a shot since I don't use my PM tool rest at the moment.
@staynavytom29632 жыл бұрын
Robohippie's comment is reassuring regarding epoxy glueing the bar to the rest. I was wondering if there were other buyers of the rod who could add their endorsements/comments. I have a rod sitting in my cart on D-Way tools shopping center but still a touch reluctant about the epoxy attachment.
@Ethan-pb3jq2 жыл бұрын
Did you see my reply above? I’ve done it with excellent results.
@robertcornelius35142 жыл бұрын
By the way, can anyone tell me what that small hole if for on those Powermatic toolrests?
@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin22202 жыл бұрын
It is for hanging by wire during heat treating to prevent warping.
@user-ot4mk3hd6j Жыл бұрын
The hole in the Powermatic rest is for painting at the factory. D-Way/Boxmaster tool holes is for hanging during the heat-treating process.
@robohippy2 жыл бұрын
The first Robust tool rests were epoxied on. If you dropped one on the floor, and it landed on the hardened drill rod, the rod would pop off. I only did that once. Easy to epoxy back on.
@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin22202 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info Reed. Hope you are having fun doing your thing!
@hammertimewoodworks2 жыл бұрын
Awesome! These will be so much better than cast iron toolrests tops and much more cost effective than pre-made hardened steel rests.
@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin22202 жыл бұрын
Absolutely!
@staynavytom29632 жыл бұрын
How does it connect to the original tool rest? Is there a groove in your tool steel that sets over the edge of the original tool rest?
@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin22202 жыл бұрын
The video steps through the installation using JB Weld for adhesion - there is no physical connection between the rod and the tool rest. Thank you for your note - we have added a side view image (after application) to the product description area on the website. It gives a better view of how the epoxy is applied.
@markb89542 жыл бұрын
Agree. They didn’t quite show the bottom of the new rest & how it’s shaped to sit on the old rest. Given this is an instructional “how to” video, i think they missed Step No 1. I’m guessing there’s a groove cut into the new bar.
@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin22202 жыл бұрын
@@markb8954 Thanks for checking this out Mark. There is no groove in either bar. The process is basically adhering the two together with JB Weld (long set) on each side.
@markb89542 жыл бұрын
@@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin2220 Interesting. I would have thought that machining a slight v groove along the length of the new bar would provide a firm position to lock the JB epoxy in. I see now why you first lock it place with a few dabs of epoxy before working on it. Thanks for the info.
@robertcornelius35142 жыл бұрын
@@markb8954 , I agree. It needs a v groove.
@tomcoker98823 жыл бұрын
Well I’m sold! I’ve been lookin for some scrapers to add to my tool rack and I’ve tried to repurpose some standard scrapers. They’ve worked sort of OK, but sharpening proved to be a pain as the handles keep getting in the way. So the double ended tool with the quick release handle is extremely appealing. Jimmy is it best to call you directly to place an order, or should I go to D-way? I’ll probably be placing my order Monday or Tuesday. Thanks for the informative video, it was very timely. Cheers, Tom
@jimmieallen59623 жыл бұрын
Tom - feel free to give us a call, happy to go over what's available and would work best for you. Jimmie
@Gatorbuc73 жыл бұрын
How do the wooden platforms attach to Wolverine metal platform? I don’t want to drill through the metal platform. Thanks!
@JimGriec03 жыл бұрын
Great video! I do not have a neg rake yet. Which design and size do you recommend to start off with? My max diameter pieces are 12". I do both end grain and spindle work. Thx
@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin22203 жыл бұрын
In the Boxmaster line I would recommend the 5/8 Double Curved. For 12 inch stuff in the D-Way line I would recommend the small or medium Round Nose negative rake scraper. They will become your favorite tool. D-Way Tools & Boxmaster Tools Jimmie Allen 360 689-4541
@jamesapplegate43194 жыл бұрын
Very nice video! I especially liked how comprehensive it was. It starts with how you grind scraper to how you can work with it and the different options of burrs. The pace was perfect and gave me a chance to digest what was said and done!
@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin22202 жыл бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@staynavytom29634 жыл бұрын
Is there anything important in creating the plywood raised platforms? Do you have any diagrams for making the platforms?
@jimmieallen49654 жыл бұрын
There are no plans or drawings. I make them 100 at a time. They are only $5 apiece and come with mounting screws and directions for mounting. We make them simplify the process and make sharpening easier for people. They are available on the D-WayTools.com site. Feel free to contact me if you have any questions or concerns. Jimmie D-Way tools
@johnhankel74325 жыл бұрын
Great video
@vpofpublicrelations84066 жыл бұрын
Whether hogging out or making a final pass, I enjoy the heck outa my Boxmaster negative rake scrapers. I especially like the Big-A** 1-1/4 or 1-1/2 that I bought from you in Portland. The heft of the thing keeps the vibration down and makes a better cut. Thanks for showing how to change the cutting edge of the NR scrapers. That was very helpful and looks easy to do.
@wetterwashington6 жыл бұрын
Actually I machined a new mild-steel tool post with these tools
@wetterwashington6 жыл бұрын
I love the boar-spear NRS....
@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin22206 жыл бұрын
Great! Glad to hear it is working for you. Would love to see some pictures of what you have going on. [email protected]
@wetterwashington6 жыл бұрын
Nice work Jimmie and Eric!
@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin22206 жыл бұрын
Takes some of the mystery out of negative rake scrapers, what they can be used for and how to sharpen them according to the material you are using. Boxmaster Tools is here to improve the user's experience and be a partner in your woodturning journey.
@d-waytoolsboxmastertoollin22206 жыл бұрын
Have been contacted requesting availability of set-up gauge and wooden platforms used within video. They are constructed by Jimmie Allen to be used with One-Way Sharpening platforms. Email [email protected] for details.