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@NC7491 11 күн бұрын

15 year grinder here, though mostly tournaments. I know it sucks if you are break even, but if you are making money, that's what matters at the end of the day. Money earned through rakeback is still money and what matters is effective win rate. These days i am grinding pokerstars zoom and I d be happy if I were able to get break even at 200NL and just get the rakeback. Tough game though. What's the discrepancy between your all in EV/100 and your actual EV/100? It seems huge to me over a large sample size. Is your standard dev more than 100BB? Good luck.

@NC7491 11 күн бұрын

BTW, get prepared mentally for the reverse run bad to happen over an equal amount of time. It's going to suck balls and you will have to withstand it.

@maciejzastawny88 15 күн бұрын

@HighEloPoker HI KRUZZZZ, I have a question. What is the tax and overall situation in Croatia regarding poker? THX in andvance!

@Johnny-cz2wv 23 күн бұрын

So that 85bi downswing is pre rb right? So net max downswing was maybe something like 40bi? That doesn't seem too bad

@Twinkieboy333 24 күн бұрын

🫡

@feaster8417 27 күн бұрын

I lost a hand on Ignition with the EXACT same positions, runout besides the river, and hands as your quads over boat hand. Luckily I only lost $200 haha. gg!

@philiphildebrand8019 29 күн бұрын

very weird, my graph for the year looks almost identical

@Tobi-pn2xs Ай бұрын

Did your rb graph include leaderboards, envelopes and the bbj share?

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

Leaderboards,2nd place BBJ x1 and BBJ on the table(where u get 5 buyins each) x3.

@SauronArg Ай бұрын

you play zoom in gg? short handed? thanks

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

Yes i play rush and cash......and no its never short handed because there is always enough people in the pool 24/7 to fill all 6 seats.

@LongNguyen-ho9qf Ай бұрын

Sad could literally work at Macdonald and make more poker is dead

@sunshinerain8191 Ай бұрын

good luck man❣

@thesoltrain1383 Ай бұрын

How to join discord?

@affiliateinfo1648 Ай бұрын

how many hands do you need to play per day to get $100 in the leaderboard?

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

I dont know never checked exactly,but maybe 4k+? Depends if u play on happy hour times too.

@lewiscpowell Ай бұрын

You didn’t speak much about studying. Do you not plan to study much in 2025?

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

I didnt set any study goals because its not a problem for me,i love studying sometimes more than playing even......so study is always there.

@jamiebury1807 Ай бұрын

Well done for getting through the year. Tough to experience. Sure you will grow stronger from jt

@ronk6405 Ай бұрын

Do you play tournaments or other games?

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

Nop i dont enjoy tournaments.

@MDA_Demon Ай бұрын

Nice video, good luck in 2025

@Staatsschuldenlüge Ай бұрын

GG is a scam, if you dont get in enough volume to get decent rake back, to make up your losses, you are xxx. You make yourself a slave "voluntary slave" :D i will never play there, even if it will be the last opportunity on earth to grind

@christianschneider1499 Ай бұрын

Thanks for the video. If the orange line is the ev I don't think that doubling your hand volume is your best way to go in order to create max. $ in 2025 Maybe try to analyse what your sweet spot is regarding number of tables/hands per hour compared to winrate in order to find the best hourly. And if you want to treat it like a job, it might be worth looking outside the box regarding your playing times, poker sites, stakes, table selection, poker days/theory days and holiday selection. The things you used to do don't seem to work that well anymore. So, it is probably time to change. Good luck

@phrog6073 Ай бұрын

hes playing on gg now bro, if you breakeven pre rb ur printing

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

Finding that sweet spot is easier said than done,u always think u can do better.

@christianschneider1499 Ай бұрын

@@phrog6073 He made 21k from rakeback in 350k hands. That is not bad at all of course. If we assume 750k hands in a year again at 0 ev-bb/100 he makes 45k over a year (all of it rakeback). That is 60$/h if he averages 1000 hands/h and plays 750 hours. That definitely is good money, but probably not what he is looking for. In the green graph at 13:38 we can see that he won ~6200bb which equals around 14,8k. So, his avg bb is ~2,4$. If f.e. he managed to focus better by playing let us say two thirds of the tables at once (so, now only 500k a year), but reaches 2bb/100 before rb as he assumed he makes 500k*2/100*2,4$=24000$ in winnings and 45000*2/3=30000$ in rb. That would put the hourly to 54000/750=72$ already. This is just an example, of course. Who knows if he was winning 2bb/100 pre rb by sacrificing a third of the volume. But, it is important to try and optimise those things. Otherwise, you do the same things you are comfortable with and get the same results. And again, 45k is not bad at all, but it doesn't seem to be enough for him

@christianschneider1499 Ай бұрын

@HighEloPoker That is true. It isn't necessarily easy. And, the mind plays this trick on us. But, we also know that there is a too much, f.e. 10 tables fastfold, and that there is a too little, f.e. 1 regular table. Finding the best spot is a key part. If you want to treat it just like a job don't change anything and earn 60$/h. Nothing wrong with that. If you want to treat it like a business, and make it the most profitable, optimise it

@christianschneider1499 Ай бұрын

@theryan244 Ай бұрын

Like other people have said, expecting to play 8 hours/day, 5 days per week is not reasonable imo. I think this is a lot even for people who can maintain high quality attention for long periods of time. Also, will you not take any intentional breaks? Vacation time? Emergency time off? I think having goals in mind with a little bit of buffer is more fair to yourself. Best luck to you.

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

Its 6 hrs a day not 8 but yeah i get your point....as for taking vacation time off i dont see a problem in playing mornings and then going to the beach afternoon to evening i imagine my summer going something like that.The reason i waste so many hrs doing stupid stuff is because i have tons of free time availible,so taking even more full days off from poker i would probably be bored as hell to be honest with u lol.

@NeviRPoker Ай бұрын

Good video and good results! As you said, MDA and deviation are key on GG. Glgl for 2025 :)

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

GL to u 2,found your channel not so long ago,good stuff i like how u play!

@ojoaomotta Ай бұрын

poker is nuts

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

Indeed it is.

@mattsmith9968 Ай бұрын

what is your rank in LOL?

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

Emerald

@mattsmith9968 Ай бұрын

@@HighEloPoker :( emerald i fking ELOHELL. Every game is flip, I dropped from d4 to P4

@Williy_Nilly Ай бұрын

I've been suffering this type of oscillating, fantastic gains, then the bottom completely falling out for over 10 years. I can't figure out what's wrong. I've tried everything 😢

@mikemcgovern8990 Ай бұрын

My pimative results orientated brain loves to see these videos haha. 6hours of 4 table zoom would be harder than many many 8 hour 9-5 jobs in terms of energy and focus required in my opinion, especially having to deviate so much, but you're the man for the job no doubt. Just a couple of questions: 1) last year you were saying about maybe only 2 tabling due to red line suffering a bit. Do you think you volume of 4 tabling zoom is more EV than 2 tabling and being able to focus on spots more? 2) you have a great schedule! But do you think you lose out on much EV by not playing weekends or evening when the pool might have more fish? Or do you feel the GG pool is soft enough overall that it doesn't matter either way? Good luck in the coming year!

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

Yeah the less tables the play,the more u can focus.On 1 hand your winrate is higher but on 2nd hand your volume is lower.....gotta find the right spot in between.My redline was suffering definately i missed a bunch of easier spots playing more tables,but also i wasnt really that studied at that time in some spots for example turn or river XR so i was definately too passive which makes redline go down obviously.And for the 2nd question yeah i lose some EV sure....ive seen bunch of graphs where people show time of the day winrate and evenings were the best.But honestly i personally didnt feel the difference,for what its worth i think i played worse i was often tired sleepy,or had more distractions in my house compared to mornings when i wake up fresh, no distractions,i can sit down and play well.

@BruceShee Ай бұрын

Absolutely loved the vid mate! Your generous, honest self-assesment and the conclusions were insightful and to the point - no bs content as usual. The fact that you handled the swing and came back stronger, despite the tought times, is a way to go indeed. Along with the results, it's a great motivator to start the new year with as well. Wish you, myself and your viewers happy Kruizzzering in the new next one! 🍹🎆 xD

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

Thx for the nice words Sky,Happy New Year!Hope u have really good 2025 aswell!

@emanueleco7363 Ай бұрын

Ipoker always makes you run insanely good when you start I guess. I had 3 iPoker accounts and in all 3 I crushed the games I was playing for 5-10k hands and then I got crushed lol

@mattbaxter926 Ай бұрын

Good results mate you've been very unlucky to not get a full bad beat in that sample size I've had 2 full bad beats and 5 bad beats just sitting at a table and my sample size is less than 100k hands i know I've ran above EV but in a 350k hand sample I would say mathematically you should expect atleast 2 full bad beats?

@jonathandesjardins1020 Ай бұрын

I've read somewhere that people calculated it and the odds of getting a bad beat are 1 out of 100 000 hands, and since only 1 out of the 6 people at the table get the full bad beat, the odds of getting the full bad beat is 1 out of 600 000 hands ...

@shayronen5370 Ай бұрын

Amazing vid. quick question - how much buyins you think you would lose if your mental game was the absolute best you instead of the 85? I'm curious about the answer cause for me it's so so connected, i truly believe that i would lose about at least half from how much i lost if i had the best mental game. I'm not talking about being on A game all the time, just have the best mental game you can archive. Happy new year, glgl

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

Happy new year! I dont know exactly cuz its impossible to calculate but i did say in the video atleast 30ish buyins out of those 85 if i had to guess.

@pkrelmo Ай бұрын

Hey mate, this is such a good video! On the volume side, one thing I’d say is I don’t think you can compare it to a “normal” job because this game is so intensive. You can’t play 8 hours per day at 700-800 hands an hour because you’re just going to melt your brain. And the people that do actually achieve this are the outliers and not the norm. They’re also not who I’d personally aspire to be 😂 I think be a bit easier on yourself in this regard and enjoy where your hard work has gotten you! ♥️

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

Yep,wise words mate....as i said its all theory talk whats doable whats not,its just something im trying to follow thro by going to next year.Knowing myself if i manage to follow this schedule for atleast 1 or 2 months i will be happy,and after that i can probably judge can i continue or not.

@HasNoName69 Ай бұрын

Gchaps is makin 4b/100 after 850k hands in nl200 rnc pool so theres still place to improve

@redraw0160 Ай бұрын

is that before rakeback or after?

@HasNoName69 Ай бұрын

@@redraw0160 before

@池德 Ай бұрын

太感谢你真诚的总结了，你激励了我，我有和你一样的问题我的收入大多来自poker，而我娱乐的时间甚至多过打牌。看了你的视频我想在2025年定一个目标70W手常规桌（我还有其他工作所以手牌数目标低一些）祝你2025年顺利！！！！！！！

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful and thank you,GL to u too in 2025!

@davidkeresztes2711 Ай бұрын

What is the reason for regs on Stars being so much stronger than on GG?

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

If i had to guess good players always played on stars and had no incentive to change sites and search for "better" games.

@SimonStaxPoker Ай бұрын

Great video man :) How did you input all your RB from GG?

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

Hey,everytime i got some kind of reward i added it manually in the HM3.

@_MMWWMM_ Ай бұрын

And people say online poker isn't dead!!! 🤡🤡🤡

@Wiffle_ Ай бұрын

Really appreciate the insight Kruzer, best of luck next year :)

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

Thanks, you too!

@rufuullah6877 Ай бұрын

Where can you find out your PVI on GG?

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

U can calculate it after each session.Check the ammount of rake you paid and you should get 100pts / dollar. So if you raked 10$ you should have 1000pts. If you have 500 your pvi is 0.5.

@jeegee-cx7ss Ай бұрын

It's not just you, everyone is showing bad results. And there are more coaches in poker than ever before. Basically the games become unbeatable due to rake, then people become coaches and coach people in the game they can no longer beat. Then it's sort of like everyone sits around and rubs each others backs, "It's all good, bro, just a downswing. Study harder." GTO bots can't even beat the rake on 200zoom, the skill is too high relative to rake.

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

Rake is really high and games get tougher over years i agree,but if there is someone out there winning that proves its beatable u just have to be better at the game,just fax.Played bad, happens, we go again 👊.

@jeegee-cx7ss Ай бұрын

@@HighEloPoker Are you aware of winner bias? In short it's as follows - 100 players play poker. All are equal still, and do the exact things in every spot. 10 of these players show graphs with an ev line pointing towards the sky, and appear to be crushing the games. The rest of these players now look to the '10 crushers' as evidence that the games are beatable. But we know that all players in said example are all of equal skill, so obviously it's a case of run good. The bias being that the winners think they're great, and the losers thinking they need to do what the winners are doing, then they'll win. But we know that the losers are doing the exact same thing the winners are doing, just not running good. Anyway, I'm not saying the games are unbeatable, just pointing out the fallacy in 'if there is someone out there winning that proves its beatable'.

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

@@jeegee-cx7ss Seing a great winning player is inspiring,atleast for me and i want to be like that player.I have infinite amount of leaks that needs fixing and thats why the journey of becoming better is motivating cuz u are also improving day in day out.Also i dont agree with all 10 people being equal in skill...poker maybe but theres a lot of life factors that affect how well u execute in game,the older i get the more i understand this my biggest life achieveing is probably being a winning player with a horrible mental game which again proves that games are beatable even if u are tilt lord like myself who spent 15 years of his life playing esport video games 10 hrs a day basically with non fixable mental game lmao.

@toaderionel6814 Ай бұрын

@HighEloPoker if the regs on GG are way softer than on stars at 200nl, can we assume that is the same at all stakes? 25nl,50nl? At rush&cash

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

I havent played those stakes but im sure thats correct.

@davidkeresztes2711 Ай бұрын

I experienced the same on every stakes NL50-200

@zeljkotokic100 Ай бұрын

realy interesting is why u dont invest ur money in moving up in stakes and start playing regular tables, u will never win enough playing RNC200, this time u ran over ev by alot, it will get even at some point and u will not get over 2bb/100 winrate if u get even that playing bigger volume so yea all in all u will waste ur time. Nadam se da se vidimo na vecim stejkovima, bar probaj sta ti preporucujem :D

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

Nema gejmova oko jutarnjih sati i neznam dal je uopce moguce igrat vise od 300-400k handova u godini reg table mid stakes.....a to je jako mali volume,bolji regovi, tako da mozes lagano imat godinu di si u minusu,barem ja tako mislim.....naravno u buducnosti cu se switchat samo kad,neznam 😅.

@zeljkotokic100 Ай бұрын

@@HighEloPoker igre ima dovoljno sigurno, regovi jesu bolji ali i ti postajesh bolji igrajuci protiv istih a i kao sto si reko, naviko si protiv boljih regova da igrash tako da te to nece zaustaviti, 500k+ ruku mozesh lagano da odigrash na 500+ stejku i to da birash stolove i racunaj sa tvojim volumeom cesh samo na dzek potove da dobijesh 40k+ tako da iako budesh breakeven cesh imati 100k godinu, igrao sam RNC i gubljenje je vremena, cist rejk trap

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

@@zeljkotokic100 Kuzim da,radio sam i ja neke kalkulacije sta je bolje sta je moguce,al neznas nista dok ne probas.....hvala na savjetu,razmislit cu.

@ComradeAndrej Ай бұрын

@@zeljkotokic100 Izvinjavam se sto se ubacujem ovako, odigrao sam ovu godinu na RNC (doduse nize 50 i 100) i osecao sam se kad da sam sto ti kazes u rejk trapu. Probacu definitivno reg stolove, a generalno GG pool mi je bio najcudniji od svih sajtova koje sam igrao tako da se poistovecujem s tvojim utiskom Kruzer. Morace puno da se radi na eksploataciji. Hvala puno na videu, dodje dobro posle prilicno bezveze godine. Idemo u '25 :)

@markusarpad5319 Ай бұрын

Life is not just poker… time to open for world!

@liosrgi3902 Ай бұрын

How he makes in 2024?

@MKitson Ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing, all the best for the goals in 2025!

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

Same to you!

@nickpopovicofficial Ай бұрын

Sir, just charge more for coaching would be the fix

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

Trueeeee

@Demondoink1 Ай бұрын

Nice video! I think that you are way too harsh on yourself when you said you 'only' played for 3.5 hours per day, then pointed out that most people work an average of 8 hours per day. Sure, the latter is true, but remember these people aren't spending literally every single second of that 8 hours working, being focused on making decisions that will win/lose them large amounts of money (like we do in poker). They have lunch breaks, they have coffee breaks, they chat with co workers, they are in meetings where they are listening to someone talk, they are calling clients etc. Maybe half of their day is spent doing work that requires a high degree of focus, and even then, most jobs do not require any real mental focus at all. I think you should compare playing poker to something like being an athlete instead of an average person working an 8 hour job. Most athletes, unless they are ultra marathon runners or something, will only train for 3-4 hours per day maximum. Anything more than this would lead to burn out and injuries. When you set your 1.5m hands goal for next year a part of be winced. That just sounds completely overwhelming. A big positive of being a poker professional is that we get a lot of freedom with our job, so forcing yourself to grind zoom for 6 hours per day, 5 days per week doesn't sound much better than working a regular job, if anything it sounds worse- cos we aren't getting any form of social connection while grinding and we are just staring at a screen for the entire time. Anyways I am not being negative, I think it's admirable that you would set such a goal, but I think it's kind of dangerous if we constantly need to better last years results- because then we will never be content unless we manage to achieve this goal. Your profit this year seems like a very nice return for your hard work, and you 'only' worked 3.5 hours per day- which stopped you from completely burning out and enabled you to do other, non poker related things away from the computer. Good luck in 2025, but I would urge you to stop comparing grinding poker online to working a regular job. This is much more mentally draining than the vast majority of jobs. We are essentially some form of 'athletes' instead of someone working in a store or something.

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

Yeah u are absolutely right,thx for your insight....its definately not the same as a normal job.

@chrisungoed8793 Ай бұрын

Great video, thanks for sharing. For people playing 100z and lower which always seems to run on Stars. Would you recommend still playing on Stars or switching to GG?

@MrFirFI Ай бұрын

Stars offer 2x lower rake than GG.Up to you.

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

From what ive seen on stars lobbies last few months before my country got restricted is there were insane amount of fish in 100z games for some reason so id stick to that.

@errornotgonatel7185 Ай бұрын

After watching this video I don’t think I want to play in poker games if my true winrate is less than 5bb/100. That variance is absolutely insane. Kudos for going through with it.

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

Yeah its tough.

@BenaBadBeatPoker Ай бұрын

really appreciate the honesty with your 2024 results mate - onto bigger and better things in 2025 <3

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

Thank you!Looking forward to see what u have in store for 2025 too on your channel!

@jimh396 Ай бұрын

What are your thoughts on playing $2/5 and/or $5/10 6-700k hands instead? Or do you hate reg tables that much?

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

I dont think that volume is achievable playing reg tables mid stakes,and id have to play at later times in the day when there is more action,whic i already said i mostly play in the mornings.

@jimh396 Ай бұрын

Yeah it’s a lot of volume but I think it’s comparable to 1,5M zoom hands. I think you can start at 8am and get 6 tables of 500&1k at GG. But it’s up to you ofc. It is definitely way more convenient with r&c. It will also be interesting to follow and see what sort of results a reg of your caliber can produce

@HighEloPoker Ай бұрын

@@jimh396 Ill consider it thx for the suggestion.

@jimh396 Ай бұрын

What are your thoughts on playing $2/5 and/or $5/10 6-700k hands instead? Or do you hate reg tables that much?

@adamba99 Ай бұрын

10:34 trust me if gg was unbeatable no one will play it , as long as regs play the games they’re making money

@taranuandrei991 Ай бұрын

He means beatable before rakeback

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