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@patthewoodboy
@patthewoodboy 2 күн бұрын
Drop some Avondale SE200 boards in the old NAP 250 and it will slaughter the new one
@cemsomaklar4165
@cemsomaklar4165 4 күн бұрын
In my opinion, instead of investing in a streamer, a quality DAC should be invested in. The source can be a phone or even a laptop.
@dougmurray7684
@dougmurray7684 6 күн бұрын
Good stuff
@TriAmpHiFi
@TriAmpHiFi 9 күн бұрын
An active crossover with no ability to vary the crossover point? Is today April 1st?
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 5 күн бұрын
I believe the Sigao crossover is optimised to the loudspeaker in question, however I will find out more as I am now curious. There are two main things happening, firstly, the Sigao is passive and requires no noisy mains power, so the crossover solution is near silent and well away from the speaker cabinet. Secondly, the impedance plugs are tuned to match any dual (in this case) power amplifier setup widening the opportunity to go active. Previously there were only limited active options;, Naim, Exposure, Linn, etc. Thank you for the comment.
@AdrianMortimer-du3gb
@AdrianMortimer-du3gb 9 күн бұрын
Thank you for the review. Really surprised how effective it is when I heard it at Bristol this year
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 5 күн бұрын
Yes, it was the moment of the year for me, thank you for the comment
@sunilm3181
@sunilm3181 15 күн бұрын
Serhans swift vs Kudos super 20 vs titan 505 vs 606, what’s your preference order irrespective of cost?
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 13 күн бұрын
Good question, thanks. It's a tough one. I've not heard the 606s in anger, so I'll ignore those. For me, I think 505, Serhan, Super 20. But any of them will do for me
@sunilm3181
@sunilm3181 13 күн бұрын
@@hifiandmusicsource thank you
@markboyle9941
@markboyle9941 17 күн бұрын
What made you change over to the classic stuff. I have and 82/250 with 2*hicaps driving 10 inch Tannoy Monitor Gold HPD's and it sounds fantastic fed by an Orbe SE or Naim CDI. I tried the newer gear and just couldn't get on with it. Would be interested in your take on it...
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 13 күн бұрын
I have not made the switch personally; I just reviewed them. My upgrades with Chord Co and the recent MBS Audio experience (see articles on the website) have made me realise what I have with the old gear is perfectly fine, and I should just sit back and enjoy. However, I'm looking at the power supply side after the Synergistic experience (MBS Audio article). Thanks for the comment
@ianreid4811
@ianreid4811 26 күн бұрын
This was a really disappointing show. Not many exhibitors and only a few of the rooms held anything interesting. My friends and I will not be going to this show again !
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 22 күн бұрын
Yes agreed but Stereonet is taking the reins going forward, let’s see what happens going forward
@joeythedime1838
@joeythedime1838 Ай бұрын
Wonder how to choose the file system? What's the difference, for a 4TB SSD, in choosing NTFS or exFAT?
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 28 күн бұрын
Good comment, thanks. Audio Emotion, who sent me the Eversolo, advised me to use NFTS, I'm not so clear why, but it still works.
@JohnLake-qp1xr
@JohnLake-qp1xr Ай бұрын
try the PS Audio Air Lens
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 28 күн бұрын
Yes, I know this unit, I'd like to if I can one from PS Audio
@faysalriaz1312
@faysalriaz1312 Ай бұрын
Thank you very much. Sadly I'm away and missed it. What speakers did you think performed very well. How did the Marten sound with the Gryphon reference system. I have never heard Marten but want to soon. Appreciate your thoughts on the leading speakers at the show.
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 28 күн бұрын
It was a great room, I was rather taken by the air suspended turntable and so lost my focus but the Martens were sounding good to me.
@Antibackgroundnoise
@Antibackgroundnoise Ай бұрын
Quality video, and I love the little comparison chart towards the end 🎉
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource Ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@Trebor2024
@Trebor2024 Ай бұрын
I have a pair on order and can’t wait until they get here from Australia!
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource Ай бұрын
Oooh, lucky you, lovely loudspeakers, congratulations
@CarlVanDoren61
@CarlVanDoren61 Ай бұрын
Modded BS Node N130 LHY filter board DC5v 😊 ifi ipower elite 5v power supply Aardvark Classic Ethernet Isolator DH Labs Toslink Glass Master
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource Ай бұрын
Nice, I've just received a Nuprime 5V power supply so will be looking into that soon, power supply upgrades are always worth investigating
@faysalriaz1312
@faysalriaz1312 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I found putting my 7 units on Custom Design Quadraphonic iRaps was a huge upgrade. Give them 3 days to settle in. Easily the best value upgrades I ever did. I added reviews to the Audio Affair page. I use big stands Norstone Esse so can fit the Quadraphonic iRaps. The normal iRaps will also be a great upgrade. I urge you to give these a go for a huge upgrade for no money at all. All the best, Faysal
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 2 ай бұрын
Hi there, thanks for the comment. Yes, I agree. I recently bought a SolidSteel rack for my review equipment; it is a proper upgrade.
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 2 ай бұрын
Just been looking at those iRaps, I might see if I can get them for a review, they look amazing.
@faysalriaz1312
@faysalriaz1312 2 ай бұрын
@@hifiandmusicsource great - let us know how it goes 👍🏽
@autonomous-hm5yf
@autonomous-hm5yf 2 ай бұрын
Naim equipment is a complete system and you either buy into it or not. Its nice equipment but it's really made to work with its own components.
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 2 ай бұрын
Nice comment, I agree with you, once you are on the Naim train it is hard to get off!
@autonomous-hm5yf
@autonomous-hm5yf 2 ай бұрын
​Naim did appear to dominate the market once and for good reason. There does appear to be a lot of brands to choose from nowadays and in the end most people have to be discerning about how much and what products to choose to build a system. ​@@hifiandmusicsource
@gges1605
@gges1605 2 ай бұрын
The upgrade bug can effect everyone and instead of listening to music we land up listening to the system the issue however is that when your system gets too good it starts to show up bad recordings and instead of enjoying the music we start thinking about how to fix the sound. So many people have been through the upgrade path that naim has and arrived at a really exceptional sound quality only to realise they enjoyed the journey more than the end result and actually for day to day listening they are content listening to a far lesser system. I have several friends that actually downgraded the system after reaching the high end as they realised they were actually listening to the music more with a less revealing system. For me it was switching to really good headphones with a good headphone amp that got me back to actually listening to the music instead of the system.
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 2 ай бұрын
Yes, good comment! I have always been music-led, I believe, and of course, headphones are a really good value way to access high-end HiFi. Thanks for the comment
@yulaswift2439
@yulaswift2439 14 күн бұрын
Ah-Ha! There it is, the sickening truth….Spending £10’s of Thousands (as I did ), only to end up listening to equipment rather than music. Smashed it! 🤜🏼
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 13 күн бұрын
@@yulaswift2439 Yes, music first, always.
@gges1605
@gges1605 13 күн бұрын
@@yulaswift2439 Sadly as we get older our hearing isn't as good either which is ironic as its usually not till were a bit older we can afford better hifi
@gges1605
@gges1605 13 күн бұрын
@@hifiandmusicsource Not so sure that headphones and headphone amps are that much cheaper you can still get really silly with those as well I have what is for me a fairly modest set of Focal Clear Mgs with a Focal Arche headphone amp the cost being £1399 and £2500 respectively so not that far away from £4k which is a whole lot less than i spent on main system however the issue is that i'm looking at the Utopia headphones wondering if spending the extra is worth it i'm also wondering if I should have spent the money on the Naim Unity Atom headphone edition instead of the Focal Arche they are comparable in cost so you can see the hifi upgrade bug can be every bit as bad listening to headphones. There are so many different headphones with different sound signatures to explore and a whole lot of brilliant headphone amps that i'm not sure headphones are not going to turn out to be more expensive.
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 2 ай бұрын
For the record, the EE1 is actually £250, widely (Sept 2024). I think I said £300 in the video
@dangeorgecommunications
@dangeorgecommunications 2 ай бұрын
This is a brilliant money-saving performance-enhancing hack for users of older Naim gear. Bravo!
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 2 ай бұрын
Agreed, and I have abated my desire for the New Classic equipment, for now at least! It has also greatly helped things, taking it all apart and putting it back together... neatly! Thanks for the comment.
@keithwaring1642
@keithwaring1642 2 ай бұрын
The mains cable could be another option, have tried various types, from Naims own to Chord and Viborg with success in each case. Speaker cables have also been tried again with success, these options are more a tuning affect to correct anything that's lacking or taming thing that's over bearing.
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 2 ай бұрын
Yes, I put this in the article itself. I have Atlas' mains conditioners and power leads in the XPS and the 250. I agree with you about loudspeaker cables as well.
@philb4031
@philb4031 2 ай бұрын
what would your speaker of choice be to match both your and the newer nap250?
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 2 ай бұрын
Nice question, thank you. With my own (Old Classic) NAP 250 I have an old saggy pair of KEF R700s that still sound great to me in my lounge. If I had the money I'd be looking at the Kudos Titan 505s that I have in the review room and they sounded just perfect with the new 250 (if you go to the review you'll see why). I'm also a big fan of the PMC Twenty5i series, the 26s (Editor's Pick Award) are sumptuous
@stever7732
@stever7732 2 ай бұрын
Looks a nice setup. What furniture have you got those Naim units on?
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 2 ай бұрын
That is an a cheap old Target rack that I bought years and years ago from eBay, it does a job. This is my lounge in this video. HF&MS has in fact recently bought an Italian SolidSteel rack from Mian Distribution which has certainly made a difference on the reviewing side offering a firmer delivery and plenty of space to work around. Thanks for the comment and look out for the next video we're doing in the next week on how to upgrade the old Naim Classic if you can't afford the new stuff!
@vvmaster2010
@vvmaster2010 2 ай бұрын
The naim nac n-272 and the nap 250 dr are still sounding good today? I have a pair of triangle borea br03 and would like to pair them with the old classic 200.
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 2 ай бұрын
Yes, thanks for the comment. I still love my NAC-N 272 and the 250. I've just reviewed the Triangle BR10s with the New NAP 250. Triangle is doing really good things at this moment so good luck with that.
@Linux_Lucy
@Linux_Lucy 3 ай бұрын
So, Long Story Short - I Down Sized from a '10 'Box Naim System about a year ago. Now using a Hegel H390. WOW! ! ... And included is an excellent Streamer & DAC. ( Still have my Denafrips & RME DAC"S and the Innuos Pulse Mini Streamer ) Naim gear always was 'Over-Priced' ... 🤑 I bought all mine Used. I have however kept the '02' FM Tuner and I have a Unity Atom in the Bedroom. Oh, and anyone thinking of starting on the Naim 'Ladder' with the Nait 5 Amp.... STOP ... Listen to the ( Cheaper ) Hegel H95 first.Yep, It 'Blows Away' the Over-Priced' Nait. And yes again, it has the Streamer / DAC Inside. As commented below ... ATC Speakers. I was using the Amazing ( Passive ) SCM 40's. Part of the Mega 'Down-Size' was to a smaller listening space. I'm now using SCM 11's with a REL T Zero Mk3 SUB. Again, WOW ... If U listen to a lot of Female Vocal / Simple Instruments Music ( Agnes Obel / Dianna Krall etc ) then U have to hear ATC Speakers. They just 'Do' Mid's .... Soooooo Well. Oh, and finally, all the SCM Speakers are not just ''Another'' Super Boring 'Square Box' ! ! They have nice 'Curved Sides' ..... Today’s ‘Band’ Recommendation … ‘Tiny Ruins’ ...( Jaw Dropped ! ) What a Voice. Check out the albums … ‘Ceremony’ … and … ‘Brightly Coloured One’ … Hope Y’all Enjoy. 🥰
@Paulo.Durano
@Paulo.Durano 3 ай бұрын
Wiim Ultra as a beginner. Rated 8 in streaming & 8 in DAC. I wonder how to differentiate the sound of 9 out of 10 or 10/10?
@gerlachsieders4578
@gerlachsieders4578 3 ай бұрын
Excellent! An affordable alternative may be the 6000N play by Audiolab, that has a no-nonsense front but with 6 presets. Now with the introduction of both the 7000 and 9000 range, retailers are cleaning up their inventory as it were, so the 6000N now often retails for ridiculous discount prices. It hasa high quality circuitry, its own solid transformer and an excellent sabre 9018-dac for the money. It is truly excellent with many review awards. Its only downside is the Play Fi app, but the 6 presets do ease the pain somewhat…atb, Gerlach Sven
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for your comment. The Audio lab 6000N is indeed a good piece of equipment. We tend not to review items that we haven't had a good chance to listen to. Looking forward to seeing if we can get our hand on one of the 8000 or 9000 ranges.
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 3 ай бұрын
Oops - finger trouble. I meant the 7000!
@carlitosgomez71
@carlitosgomez71 Ай бұрын
I've got had the 6000a it's a good streamer but playfi is frustrating and let's the system down, can be mitigated with other software and the required stream platform quoboz tidal using upnp software, but has no Chromecast, apple airplay or roon or usb but has native Amazon music which is not common on other streamers. User software is important in a streamer if it's buggy it frustrates and ruins the experience. 6000a Sounds good though vfm
@asianskywalker
@asianskywalker 4 ай бұрын
The kind of music they play is never tough on the speakers. They should be playing something fast, with a lot going on!
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource Ай бұрын
At the Ascot Show I quite shocked to hear no Pink Floyd, All day! Thanks for the comment!
@johnbarleycornmustdie
@johnbarleycornmustdie 4 ай бұрын
I just couldn’t summon up the enthusiasm to go this year after attending in 2022 and 2023. A lot of the equipment is out of my personal price budget but even the stuff that exceeds it can sound rough and edgy in those tiny hotel rooms (and some of the larger ones). A lot of shuffling into tiny rooms, feeling awkward, confined and disappointed then looking for the moment to escape. I enjoyed the video but it merely confirmed I made the right decision to skip it this year.
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 4 ай бұрын
Yes, I understand. The bar and food area were a relief in the excellent weather. Many of the rooms were a lot bigger and better than Bristol, so that was excellent
@SaltwoodSounds
@SaltwoodSounds 4 ай бұрын
Hi team, many thanks for the fantastic feedback. It was great to meet you and we're so glad you liked our speakers!
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 4 ай бұрын
No problem, what a great room, congratulations
@frederickrodger7249
@frederickrodger7249 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video, much appreciated.
@pcsekaran2995
@pcsekaran2995 4 ай бұрын
Appreciate your efforts to cover the show! It was very interesting.
@familyvideos1808
@familyvideos1808 4 ай бұрын
Looks like a great show again this year - good to see what was on show for those of us who couldn't get there in person. Thanks for a great video. Lots of Billie Eilish!
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 4 ай бұрын
Love Billie Eilish! Thanks for the comment!
@marklydon435
@marklydon435 4 ай бұрын
All you talk about is looks. You have a speaker wedged into a corner right against the back wall. 😂
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 4 ай бұрын
Hi, thanks for the comment, the full reviews are on the website for the 250 and the 222. The Titans are at the back as I was listening to the white ones at the time of shooting the video.
@sztruharrobert
@sztruharrobert 5 ай бұрын
Which one is your favourite sounding? Moojo2 or new Diablo or Hugo ?
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource Ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment, Hugo 2; really, every time, it's still the desktop GOAT. Sorry for the delay; lots going on here at HF&MS! Can't go wrong with the MoJo 2 on price though.
@PhilMcDonald-qt9df
@PhilMcDonald-qt9df 5 ай бұрын
Why would you compare a 5,000.00 dollar pice of equipment to a eversolo 800.00 dollar pice, keep it to fair run, not a pice that cost 4× it's MSRP come on
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 5 ай бұрын
Yes, fair comment, but really we were trying to highlight the options across the range, from very affordable to high priced. Interestingly the new Auralic 'Entry-Level' S1 would work well in this video at £2,000, the review is coming shortly. It is a stripped-back piece of Auralic kit that is seriously of great value in the context of your comment. Thanks for the comment.
@tigertiger1699
@tigertiger1699 5 ай бұрын
🙏🙏
@hawkmoon369
@hawkmoon369 6 ай бұрын
Do i put the hi level from the amp to the output or input with bassline blue
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 5 ай бұрын
Hey there, just use this guide (or Google REL Hi-Level) from REL, you can't go wrong! Good Luck. relsupport.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/115004486467-Connecting-a-Single-REL-via-High-Level#:~:text=The%20standard%20high%2Dlevel%20hook,%C2%AE%20connector%20into%20the%20Sub%2D
@briancampbell7712
@briancampbell7712 6 ай бұрын
I think the Aqua linQ is the absolute best streamer on the market- and I haven't even tried it yet😂😜... because I demoed both the aqua La Scala and Formula DAC's at my home in my system and wow 🎶now to connect the linQ with the Formula🧨🎉🎶 or simply compromise on the lower end products...😮
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 5 ай бұрын
Hi there, thanks for the comment. I'm not familiar with Aqua but I'll see what I can do. The linQ reads well, thanks for the heads up.
@iwcpilot1151
@iwcpilot1151 6 ай бұрын
Nice kit but way overpriced.
@Antoshka007
@Antoshka007 4 ай бұрын
Depends what you want… and how long you want the kit for. Naim is known for supporting even their earlier models. Not discarding technology and the sound quality as well as the way the power is handled (not just for the cleanliness but on the delivery to the speakers).
@alisonjackson6982
@alisonjackson6982 6 ай бұрын
Nice video giving us a good selection of headphone amplifiers to choose from - depending on our budget. Thanks 👍🏻👍🏻
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 6 ай бұрын
Thanks, enjoyed putting it together. The key thing to think about is your budget! Good point.
@flood2157
@flood2157 6 ай бұрын
A nice review but tell something about your speaker and interconnect cables you use with naim. Have you ever used ATC speakers with naim?
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 5 ай бұрын
Hey, see the comment below, I've not had ATC with the Naim kit I have as yet, despite my best endeavours
@mrpmj00
@mrpmj00 6 ай бұрын
I love my Eversolo DMP-A6 that plays native APPLE MUSIC LOSSLESS. And I upgraded the powersupply to linear LPS by Beatechnik.
@MrButuz
@MrButuz 7 ай бұрын
I am very sorry to say I don't rate Naim at all - I had a demo of PMC Twenty5 26i last month on an expensive all naim system and it sounded much, much worse than the same speakers with an Audiolab/Bryston system. Do yourself a favour and try some other kit you might well be suprised.
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the comment, yes it is all in the ears. I've personally owned Naim equipment for many years now, my views are quite clear in the many reviews I've done with Naim and if you have read any of my MOON reviews. I love PMC and reviewed the Twenty5 26i a while ago with Moor Amps amplification, they received an Editor's Pick at the time, our highest award.
@familyvideos1808
@familyvideos1808 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for this interesting video Simon. What Loudspeakers would you match with the new Naim setup - those Titans or something else?
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 7 ай бұрын
Hi there, great question, thanks for that. The Titans are terrific speakers, detailed, and dynamic and they'd be my choice, as I said in the review, with a modest lottery win. There is a video on them on this channel. The QR3 SEs are also very responsive to this new NAP 250 and very well priced. In the middle, price-wise, I'm always going to say PMC, I love their loudspeakers, and the Twenty5 24i won an Editor's Pick if I recall correctly.
@Mithros69
@Mithros69 7 ай бұрын
Good vid. Thank you!
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 6 ай бұрын
Thank you, great to hear
@ronlysons6750
@ronlysons6750 7 ай бұрын
Very good.
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 7 ай бұрын
@ronlysons6750 - Thankyou for your kind comment. We enjoyed putting it together and hoped it was useful.
@BestKiteboardingOfficial
@BestKiteboardingOfficial 7 ай бұрын
Thought the Boyer room was just a big PA, everything they played 1000 miles wide because of the speaker placement. The Muons sounded worse than Blade 2s, and the WB Cardinals were soon strident off axis. Best of show was the blackwood audio active pyramid speakers, think they had sb acoustics driver and hypex amps with Dirac room eq. Loads of stupid cables on show.
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 7 ай бұрын
Agreed, there were some nice rooms there, but several poorly setup rooms too. The Muons were mad, I'd like a pair of Blades! Thanks for the comment.
@leswolstenholme617
@leswolstenholme617 7 ай бұрын
So then, where were the punters.?
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 7 ай бұрын
Yes, though I thought there were a few more there this year. Thanks for the comment.
@Thomas-ij7ki
@Thomas-ij7ki 7 ай бұрын
What's the name of this cool turntable at 2:30 in room Hockenheim?
@stevebenstead4786
@stevebenstead4786 7 ай бұрын
Luphonic H1 or H2. About £4000
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 7 ай бұрын
Yes, thanks Luphonic H2. Imagine if you lose that puck for changing the speed or one of your kids walks off with it!
@SteveN-x1t
@SteveN-x1t 7 ай бұрын
Nice to hear a nice selection of music
@hifiandmusicsource
@hifiandmusicsource 6 ай бұрын
Always Pink Floyd though, thanks for the comment!