Wait... I didn't notice that. I have had the same enemy score on DX as well, so it is not JP Dreamcast only like I originally thought. Sonicspeedruner mentioned that there was a way to get unlimited score on most Gamma stages, the way in Hot Shelter is obvious but I'm not sure on the others. This might be how it's done on Windy Valley, if so I'm OK with only counting the enemy once.

I don't want to submit anything with an infinite combo just because it really breaks the boards... it's better to allow the game to have even competition. It's good to self-govern while we can, as I am guessing at some point someone will go and do it anyway.... necessitating everyone else to do the infinite combos.

@@DreMinusSR Yeah I was talking to DPN about this yesterday and he mentioned it can occur on DX, though I'm not sure what causes it to happen exactly - might do a few more tests when I can. Agree with you completely with the infinite scores, there's a way to get infinite scores on Sonic's ice cap as well, but the whole point of competition is to have fun and find creative ways to get the most score, not just show who has the most patience! I'd like to hope someone doesn't come around and start abusing any of the infinite score - I definitely can't see any of the currently active people abusing it :D

@@laladrona734 I tried to do an infinite once, but realized that it really doesn’t make for fun competition and kinda just breaks the boards. Sonicspeedruner’s Gamma Final Egg high time goes for the same enemies a few times in the same life but that level requires backtracking which will cause the respawns anyway. I had a similar thing to the WV enemy respawn happen to me on Gamma’s Red Mountain score attack, but with the opposite result, I ended up getting a bit less score doing a similar route to DPN/Gpros. SA1/DX is just full of jank I think lol, I still have a lot of fun competing regardless

@@DreMinusSR absolutely haha - there's so many things that happen that make absolutely no sense, but we love it for what it is - a broken mess xD

The timer seems to start later with Egg Hornet on PAL50hz, which will save some time IGT. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJ67gmqJn86dZqM

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Someone had to guide me for my first playthrough... it's one of those games for sure

The sub-9 ZERO strategy is Dreamcast exclusive. Not sure what exactly makes it work differently over SADX, but it seems like if you hit ZERO with the right timing he won't get off of the electric fence at all. I can't tell if it's frame perfect but it feels incredibly difficult.

No. Dreamcast versions only.

Unfortunately not on TSC, Speedrun.com, or Cyberscore.

Nvm im stupid bro forgot I can go to Sub game list lol

I think it may have been found at the beginning of 2022, and first utilized by Mimik in a "joke" pb www.speedrun.com/sadx/run/z0on4g9z. Haven't been able to find a paper trail past that, though. This glitch probably works because the same act is loaded twice while playing the level, this can be seen during a skipless playthrough of Sonic's Casinopolis where you can keep going into the sewer to collect rings, but that level doesn't have a leaderboard. In terms of getting the clipout, it happens because you're being pushed by two objects. There's a clip like this in Knuckles' Sky Deck that clips out using a cannon. I've only tested it on the PC Disk release, though I'd imagine it is possible everywhere except for Dreamcast possibly as layouts are shared between the SADX versions (as far as I know). Mimik also mentioned that it is possible to get into the beginning area of Twinkle Park, but I wasn't able to get it as a large invisible wall pushes Amy away from that area.

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Thanks! I watched many of your videos to get an idea of how to play through them. I think this and Speed Highway had the longest grind for Tails's levels, each around 10 hrs or so. Back around when I started speedrunning this game in 2015 I put up some RA/SAs with an overall lower effort, so now I am going back around and putting some effort into those stats. My weak point is definitely the vehicle-centric levels...

@@DreMinusSR Nice to hear my videos being utilised. (I should add more YT links on TSC at some stage). Your Tails SH was well executed - you max'd that route out. I was a little too slow to consider adding more rings to the route as I recall running a test on it. You are faster however, so I reckon it's possible to pull off (but not something I could do). SADX being as varied as it is, everyone has stronger & weaker points for sure. My weakness being speedrunning side of things particularly with Sonic and Amy.

@@DarkPolarNight I was thinking of trying for those 20-30 extra rings on SH, but it takes so long to grind for randoms there (1:30 for first random, 2:30 for second). Maybe in a LOTAD setting to see what's even possible. SADX being so varied is what I like about it. It has an almost limitless skill cap and has thousands of hours within it from a competitive standpoint, and many different playstyles. Not a lot of games are like that.

I'm not 100% sure, but based on observations the AI opponent will eventually make a break to the end of the stage regardless of where you are in the level. Once you get to the end section the opponent heads towards the goal faster. In WV I am looking to hear some spindash pad sounds as that means you probably have 10ish seconds before Sonic jumps on the capsule. DarkPolarNight's RA/SA vids have some notes on what the hard time limit is for the stage. The opponent completing the stage seems to be a problem on all stages except for Sky Deck, though I haven't tried the Speed Highway RA/SA yet.

Thanks! Ring and Score Attacks don't seem to be done as much these days due to speedrunning becoming much more prevalent. These have been intense in their own way and a fun, different way to play SADX.