Congrats on the max! And agree, one of the worst grinds in the game. If I were to conjure up list of worst SADX grinds across all categories, I think this may actually be as high as 2nd for me. Sonic FE (RA)/Amy FE (RA)/Gamma HS (RA/SA) wouldn't be too far behind, but it's Hedgehog Hammer naturally taking the Gold.
@laladrona7342 ай бұрын
Huzzah! Nice one joining the 778 Club! I think between me, you and Ike6252, we've officially made this RA worse than Amy's Final Egg! Getting 40, 40, 40, 40, 20 now only puts you in 4th place, which is lethal!
@laladrona7343 ай бұрын
Just doing some investigation into this one atm to see what affects the score in this level - 1:14 - when you kill this green enemy on the bridge, it definitely counts (the 1 sec thing appears) but when you turn back around, he's reappeared? Wondering if this is why the extra 10 points appeared at the end - if so, I'm curious to see if that could be replicated...
@DreMinusSR3 ай бұрын
Wait... I didn't notice that. I have had the same enemy score on DX as well, so it is not JP Dreamcast only like I originally thought. Sonicspeedruner mentioned that there was a way to get unlimited score on most Gamma stages, the way in Hot Shelter is obvious but I'm not sure on the others. This might be how it's done on Windy Valley, if so I'm OK with only counting the enemy once.
@DreMinusSR3 ай бұрын
I don't want to submit anything with an infinite combo just because it really breaks the boards... it's better to allow the game to have even competition. It's good to self-govern while we can, as I am guessing at some point someone will go and do it anyway.... necessitating everyone else to do the infinite combos.
@laladrona7343 ай бұрын
@@DreMinusSR Yeah I was talking to DPN about this yesterday and he mentioned it can occur on DX, though I'm not sure what causes it to happen exactly - might do a few more tests when I can. Agree with you completely with the infinite scores, there's a way to get infinite scores on Sonic's ice cap as well, but the whole point of competition is to have fun and find creative ways to get the most score, not just show who has the most patience! I'd like to hope someone doesn't come around and start abusing any of the infinite score - I definitely can't see any of the currently active people abusing it :D
@DreMinusSR3 ай бұрын
@@laladrona734 I tried to do an infinite once, but realized that it really doesn’t make for fun competition and kinda just breaks the boards. Sonicspeedruner’s Gamma Final Egg high time goes for the same enemies a few times in the same life but that level requires backtracking which will cause the respawns anyway. I had a similar thing to the WV enemy respawn happen to me on Gamma’s Red Mountain score attack, but with the opposite result, I ended up getting a bit less score doing a similar route to DPN/Gpros. SA1/DX is just full of jank I think lol, I still have a lot of fun competing regardless
@laladrona7343 ай бұрын
@@DreMinusSR absolutely haha - there's so many things that happen that make absolutely no sense, but we love it for what it is - a broken mess xD
@laladrona7346 ай бұрын
Nice one! Good to see this one finally maxed! Going to gun for it myself - there's always one ring that gets me though xD
@DarkPolarNight6 ай бұрын
Congrats on maxing this. Very nicely done!
@Pokemonmaster8886 ай бұрын
Great job!
@andy1201956 ай бұрын
Yet another maximum reached. That makes 17/29 in this game.
@anicsr7 ай бұрын
13:59 where men cried
@prof.x38218 ай бұрын
Great score.
@SPVLaboratories8 ай бұрын
goddamn that was slick
@anicsr9 ай бұрын
clean
@Sonicspeedruner9 ай бұрын
Hey I’ve been watching some of the best egg hornet times and noticed egg man’s timer starts later. on this run it starts early loosing some time but if you watch some of the records the timer starts when eggmans name starts being typed rather then before any idea what could be causing this?
@DreMinusSR9 ай бұрын
The timer seems to start later with Egg Hornet on PAL50hz, which will save some time IGT. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJ67gmqJn86dZqM
@Spacebar_SR10 ай бұрын
I knew it was possible!!
@veritasDL11 ай бұрын
E
@DreMinusSR11 ай бұрын
e
@sebastiangudino937711 ай бұрын
Big story was ASTONISHINGLY shorter than what i had remember. I took more than a week to beat it back in the day. And all i had to do is catch a frog like 4 times and move a rock
@DreMinusSR11 ай бұрын
Someone had to guide me for my first playthrough... it's one of those games for sure
@veritasDL11 ай бұрын
BIG THE CAT
@Jesus_PK11 ай бұрын
Sick job! 👌
@AuriSR11 ай бұрын
Lets go! Good Run
@TheWingsofValmar Жыл бұрын
This world record speedrun is too sick!
@TailsDefo Жыл бұрын
cool job feel sad for you though
@Spacebar_SR Жыл бұрын
how is this possible!
@DreMinusSR Жыл бұрын
The sub-9 ZERO strategy is Dreamcast exclusive. Not sure what exactly makes it work differently over SADX, but it seems like if you hit ZERO with the right timing he won't get off of the electric fence at all. I can't tell if it's frame perfect but it feels incredibly difficult.
@TailsDefo Жыл бұрын
good job
@TailsDefo Жыл бұрын
is this possible on pc none japanese
@DreMinusSR Жыл бұрын
No. Dreamcast versions only.
@TailsDefo Жыл бұрын
Is ithis allowed for ils
@DreMinusSR Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately not on TSC, Speedrun.com, or Cyberscore.
@GoofyPoptart Жыл бұрын
How many emblems total does this stage give you?
@GoofyPoptart Жыл бұрын
Nvm im stupid bro forgot I can go to Sub game list lol
@jaydragoon2265 Жыл бұрын
This is my favourite horror movie
@jaydragoon2265 Жыл бұрын
You have 17 seconds
@Pokemonmaster888 Жыл бұрын
When was this glitch found? Does it work in other stages/parts of the characters?
@DreMinusSR Жыл бұрын
I think it may have been found at the beginning of 2022, and first utilized by Mimik in a "joke" pb www.speedrun.com/sadx/run/z0on4g9z. Haven't been able to find a paper trail past that, though. This glitch probably works because the same act is loaded twice while playing the level, this can be seen during a skipless playthrough of Sonic's Casinopolis where you can keep going into the sewer to collect rings, but that level doesn't have a leaderboard. In terms of getting the clipout, it happens because you're being pushed by two objects. There's a clip like this in Knuckles' Sky Deck that clips out using a cannon. I've only tested it on the PC Disk release, though I'd imagine it is possible everywhere except for Dreamcast possibly as layouts are shared between the SADX versions (as far as I know). Mimik also mentioned that it is possible to get into the beginning area of Twinkle Park, but I wasn't able to get it as a large invisible wall pushes Amy away from that area.
@jaydragoon2265 Жыл бұрын
Can you feel the sunshine?
@jaydragoon2265 Жыл бұрын
Tougher than leather
@jaydragoon2265 Жыл бұрын
This partnership is only temporary
@DreMinusSR Жыл бұрын
i wanna fly high
@DarkPolarNight Жыл бұрын
Tails WV has always been a rather interesting and somewhat unique RA and this didn't disappoint. Nice job on this and that ending was crazy. I never held the record here and recall rather well, spending a lot of time pushing to get it but sadly never did and came to the conclusion 360/370 in itself was insane enough so reaching 390+ is a shock to this competition list. I've reviewed your TSC file, and it is good to see another TSC competitor delivery high level RAs & SAs again. You are keeping competition in the more neglected categories alive which is refreshing to see. Keep it up!
@DreMinusSR Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I watched many of your videos to get an idea of how to play through them. I think this and Speed Highway had the longest grind for Tails's levels, each around 10 hrs or so. Back around when I started speedrunning this game in 2015 I put up some RA/SAs with an overall lower effort, so now I am going back around and putting some effort into those stats. My weak point is definitely the vehicle-centric levels...
@DarkPolarNight Жыл бұрын
@@DreMinusSR Nice to hear my videos being utilised. (I should add more YT links on TSC at some stage). Your Tails SH was well executed - you max'd that route out. I was a little too slow to consider adding more rings to the route as I recall running a test on it. You are faster however, so I reckon it's possible to pull off (but not something I could do). SADX being as varied as it is, everyone has stronger & weaker points for sure. My weakness being speedrunning side of things particularly with Sonic and Amy.
@DreMinusSR Жыл бұрын
@@DarkPolarNight I was thinking of trying for those 20-30 extra rings on SH, but it takes so long to grind for randoms there (1:30 for first random, 2:30 for second). Maybe in a LOTAD setting to see what's even possible. SADX being so varied is what I like about it. It has an almost limitless skill cap and has thousands of hours within it from a competitive standpoint, and many different playstyles. Not a lot of games are like that.
@jaydragoon2265 Жыл бұрын
I break em down wether they solid or frail
@jaydragoon2265 Жыл бұрын
I will be the one to set your heart free true
@jaydragoon2265 Жыл бұрын
Unlike sonic I don’t chuckle
@andy120195 Жыл бұрын
Yo, nice! Another max rings finally achieved.
@Pokemonmaster888 Жыл бұрын
Awesome. Is the amount of time that Sonic takes to touch the goal capsule in this game random at any point, in any way?
@DreMinusSR Жыл бұрын
I'm not 100% sure, but based on observations the AI opponent will eventually make a break to the end of the stage regardless of where you are in the level. Once you get to the end section the opponent heads towards the goal faster. In WV I am looking to hear some spindash pad sounds as that means you probably have 10ish seconds before Sonic jumps on the capsule. DarkPolarNight's RA/SA vids have some notes on what the hard time limit is for the stage. The opponent completing the stage seems to be a problem on all stages except for Sky Deck, though I haven't tried the Speed Highway RA/SA yet.
@GoldenBoyyy Жыл бұрын
mad lad
@anicsr Жыл бұрын
that was a fiiine run 👌
@deathray252 Жыл бұрын
Red mountain wasn’t very nice to you but looks like a strong early game made up for it
@deathray252 Жыл бұрын
Been on a bit of roll today, huh?
@Pokemonmaster888 Жыл бұрын
Good job. Nice to see another player playing Sonic games for rings and high score.
@DreMinusSR Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Ring and Score Attacks don't seem to be done as much these days due to speedrunning becoming much more prevalent. These have been intense in their own way and a fun, different way to play SADX.