I know this is an old video but the pain I felt when I first played P3R and had a Magic Mastery skill mutation and didn't know how valuable it was. UNTIL NOW.
@joaovictordaciodacosta7924 күн бұрын
@Ziroikabi tried to fight Margaret, but failed.
@bothdoorscares38784 күн бұрын
@@joaovictordaciodacosta792 It is considered to be a nearly improbable run to do for a good reason. This demonstration simply exists for anyone willing to try this type of restriction.
@joaovictordaciodacosta7923 күн бұрын
I tried to fight Margaret too but she went berserk mode!
@bothdoorscares38783 күн бұрын
@@joaovictordaciodacosta792 I'm not sure what you're getting at. If you want to simply fight and beat her, I have a guide written on Steam.
@joaovictordaciodacosta7923 күн бұрын
Maybe I used Armageddon too early.
@bothdoorscares38783 күн бұрын
@@joaovictordaciodacosta792 It should be a kill shot, yes. Get her below 10K damage first.
@randomnobody21458 күн бұрын
thank you for this reasonable cheese strat. last playthrough i beat him legit (newborn ng+, murakumo build, no mediarahan skip, hard) so this playthrough i wanted to cheese him to get his essence and start the preparations for godborn hard. took me a couple of tries because of my own stupidity and bad luck with the magatsuhi gauge but when i got him it was clean. so again thanks for posting this
@splodesvault19 күн бұрын
im guessing reflecting elizabeth's god's hand is necessary? if so, how come every time i reflect the god's hand, it never does a similar amount of damage it does in the video?
@bothdoorscares387819 күн бұрын
@@splodesvault depends, what difficulty? Did you debuff her? Little things like that.
@splodesvault18 күн бұрын
@@bothdoorscares3878 i tested on peaceful, and I tried using debilitate and marakunda, when it reflected it did around 270-300 damage to her. i wasn't sure if the difficulty mattered so i'll try changing the difficulty. thanks!
@bothdoorscares387818 күн бұрын
@@splodesvault more or less, damage dealt by enemies being weaker in lower difficulties translates to lower repel damages. Since repels are just calculated like the enemy casting the skill is hitting itself. It's pretty funny, in hindsight.
@Carrity19 күн бұрын
So i tried to get magic mastery for oberon and it keeps giving me magic ability. My rng must suck sooo bad
@bothdoorscares387819 күн бұрын
@@Carrity do you have a proper recipe? Certain combinations are required for that kind of thing.
@Carrity19 күн бұрын
@bothdoorscares3878 mmm so I fuse unicorn with thunder reign, spell master and God's hand (or other cases, megidolaon) with mokoi which are both from pack 6 (if I'm correct), to fuse Oberon.
@bothdoorscares387819 күн бұрын
@@Carrity I suppose it's just a matter of time, then. Just keep trying.
@Evol_Tendencies20 күн бұрын
this video saved my life, thanks for the builds and guide
@bothdoorscares387819 күн бұрын
For being really late compared to contemporary strategies, it's good that it was helpful for some.
@luccabritto256620 күн бұрын
I think some people play this game too much
@YurificationTrademark20 күн бұрын
Crazy D*mi-fiend Backshot Strategy (He shouldn't have dropped the soap)
@DoubleJ46625 күн бұрын
Demi fiend got flashbacks
@ultimate894825 күн бұрын
Amazing strat
@thedigitalfortress25 күн бұрын
Brother became fodder-fiend. 😭
@thecommondude25 күн бұрын
Bro is getting violated by a 1 hp demon tongue
@kaiserkreuz211028 күн бұрын
Now that's a strat possible for level 999 Satan.
@bothdoorscares387828 күн бұрын
@@kaiserkreuz2110 Problem is getting through Shiva. Although it might be kinda easy, just have to kill a Deity demon during Samael. I think Dagda's best for this. I'm not sure how much HP Satan has there either, so it might not be a single burst turn.
@kaiserkreuz211028 күн бұрын
@@bothdoorscares3878 Shiva is annoying but nothing too hard, Samael takes time too, but I can get to Satan in less than 10 minutes. Satan has 283210 HP, so it is possible if I get in with Savage and 5-6 PT.
@bothdoorscares387828 күн бұрын
@@kaiserkreuz2110 I believe you can really only have 5 for it if following this by the book. Hmmmm I don't think I can even do a Luminiscent Mirage for this. But it might still be possible. Although I'm not sure why you'd use Savage for it, Adversity's worth it for 3.4x damage I think.
@kaiserkreuz211028 күн бұрын
@@bothdoorscares3878 I wouldn't gamble on Adversity with the extra turn they have.
@bothdoorscares387828 күн бұрын
@@kaiserkreuz2110 I'm confused, since Titania's dead and all. After eating, he should just either gather magatsuhi or use Megidolaon. And if it's the latter, Arioch with Endure could take it. Although if I have to guess, the damage wouldn't be enough even with Adversity. So the play's killing Hariti instead, burst turn with Savage, try to recover and setup again, then do an Adversity burst turn. Or perhaps do the Adversity burst turn regardless first. Hmmmmm.....if he does do Megidolaon, that's a chance to use Mirage.
@thedigitalfortress29 күн бұрын
Arioch once again proving he is the goat.
@bothdoorscares387829 күн бұрын
More of a cat, really.
@ctrlaltredacted29 күн бұрын
beautiful execution! 🎉 out of curiosity, in your testing, did you find any major anomalies? (aside from potential alternatives/deviations listed in your description)
@bothdoorscares387829 күн бұрын
I'm not sure what you mean by anomaly in this case. Well there was an attempt where I died because of the fire weakness, but that's about it.
@ctrlaltredacted29 күн бұрын
@bothdoorscares3878 ah, I guess I meant more in the way of "random things that *could* occur but most likely won't" ← that said though, you're right; it was a bad question thanks again for the exhibition!
@JohnYakoozaАй бұрын
Is using every demon in their base level to oneshot Demi-Fiend some new speedrun category that I'm just now knowing
@bothdoorscares3878Ай бұрын
@@JohnYakooza It'd be kinda funny if it is, true.
@randomnobody2145Ай бұрын
demi-fiend: "who do you think you are, mot?" nahobino: "yes."
@Kimonia6Ай бұрын
Question, is Magic Mastery required for the strat to work? Can I just use Ice Amp and Ice Boost with Multi-Target Boost?
@bothdoorscares3878Ай бұрын
@@Kimonia6 for specifically 5 turns? Yeah. If you just want to beat it? No.
@Kimonia6Ай бұрын
@bothdoorscares3878 WDYM???
@bothdoorscares3878Ай бұрын
@@Kimonia6 you need to do roughly 3K damage and let an entire turn rotation happen so you can hit Surt with King and I. You'll just do around 5.5-6K damage with King and I without Magic Mastery. Assuming Concentrate, Tarukaja and Rakunda on. It should be the same moves wise afterwards.
@Kimonia6Ай бұрын
@@bothdoorscares3878 Can Magic Mastery be replaced with say, Magic Ability? Would that improve some of the odds? At least in terms of what I am saying thus far
@bothdoorscares3878Ай бұрын
@@Kimonia6 I do have Magic Ability in mind. The sword I'm using has it. And it'll just do 5.5-6K damage without Mastery from what I calculated. She doesn't really hit that hard, it'll work well. More than likely, you'll be rarely hit if you follow the equipment loadout I have.
@cappy7556Ай бұрын
This made me want to try this game out
@Syrahl696Ай бұрын
Imma call this the Sans gambit. You just decide your turn isnt going to end. And like the Sans battle, the greatest chance of failure lies in falling asleep halfway through your neverending turn.
@TheWagn156Ай бұрын
Is this fight more enjoyable on hard rather than heartlless since you can crit him? I think getting the "1 more" could help make a more consistent strategy maybe with using Yukari's buff Theurgy rather than relying on Fuuka RNG? Just a thought. On heartless mode this is definitely just an rng fest with absurd grind required to even attempt it.
@bothdoorscares3878Ай бұрын
@@TheWagn156 Define "enjoyable". Because you're going to just beat him within 1 set of turns in Hard Mode if you want a consistent strategy there. With criticals, you can just walk in with auto-charge and obliterate the guy (you go first) without him making a move. But you will still need St/Ma grinding on you and the members. Criticals allow you to skip engaging with the fight in general. It's really a grindy fight either way if going for consistency. The setup I do have here is consistent in beating the fight in Heartless if I wasn't aiming for 4 turns.
@superbosssavageАй бұрын
Bro is dedicated I love it.🔥
@olivierquintard8345Ай бұрын
arahabaki recupere des stats sur les démons sacrifié , ?
@bothdoorscares3878Ай бұрын
I'm just going to assume you're asking what Arahabaki does. Whatever effect is active on Arahabaki will be transferred to a demon the player switches in while he's in the party. This loop ensures that we can stack multiple Magatsuhi effects into Arahabaki. It is important that Arahabaki never leaves the party for this reason, the effects stacked on him will disappear. And the loop will stop, since Arahabaki will not transfer Strategize (And all the other effects) anymore. The demons being sacrificed constantly are there to build the Magatsuhi Gauge.
@olivierquintard8345Ай бұрын
@@bothdoorscares3878 EXELLENT THANK je jeux souffre de bad traduction on ne peut comprendre cela en fr
@MultiBugggsАй бұрын
Demi-Fiend be like oh no not another Mot
@thedigitalfortressАй бұрын
Base Preta using 1% of his power.
@tyboy158Ай бұрын
"Ikuyumi yo" intensifies
@HispachioZАй бұрын
You know the consequences of this action for our next mainline SMT Protagonist right? Why not out right give the entire turn to Enemy Nahobino in SMT VI on 2030
@phillemon7664Ай бұрын
Yeah, Nahobino’s going to make The Demi-Fiend in DDS look like a joke
@bothdoorscares3878Ай бұрын
The first mistake of a megaten protagonist being a boss fight is he isn't controlled by me.
@ZiroikabiАй бұрын
For the low low price of a few dollars YOU TOO dear viewer can bully Demifiend!
I'm so cooked dude I saw the 💢 and thought "bratty fiend needs correction 💢💢💢💢"
@fyiradz9744Ай бұрын
@@fishbones8698 im obliged to type this, pls dont hunt me "CNNUY FIEND 😭😭😭😭"
@thisimagelooksslightlybett1020Ай бұрын
Ohhh what’s the second song that plays in the video? The one that starts at around 0:45
@uiuiui212Ай бұрын
smt 3 staff roll
@thisimagelooksslightlybett1020Ай бұрын
@@uiuiui212 thanks a lot :)
@DeltalikesgamesАй бұрын
Wow, I'm quite impressed, I suppose that's what stacking buffs are like if even a level 3 demon can oneshot demi-fiend
@fyiradz9744Ай бұрын
what playing nocturne on hard does to someone:
@ivanbtjАй бұрын
can you explain how exactly is potential bugged with arahabaki?
@BlazingDiancieАй бұрын
@@ivanbtj Potential's effect, for some reason, is not tied to the Omagatoki status itself. The Omagatoki: Potential effect is literally just a symbol, the skill itself is what raises the Potential values, and this is why OmaPotential's effect cant be passed on via Arahabaki's passive.
@bothdoorscares3878Ай бұрын
@@ivanbtj As the person above mentions, its the only Omagatoki effect (that we know of at the moment) that only does its effect on its activation. Arahabaki passing it on by switching in and out wouldn't give the actual effect, although you'll see Potential in the list of activated skills for the demon that's just switched in and out.
@PikangsFutabaАй бұрын
It makes me laugh how we can deploy a very glacial slug strategy that can pretty much make the enemy say "hey, when is my turn?" and the thing is... it will never come.
@kaiserkreuz2110Ай бұрын
Very thorough guide, you love to see it. Potential can be overcome, so that's pretty nice as well. Gotta love bullying the Demi-Fiend again. If only this were possible on Masakado...
@BlazingDiancieАй бұрын
Whys it not possible vs Masa?
@ivanbtjАй бұрын
@@BlazingDiancieu cant get 8 press turns and abuse virus carrier magatsuhi farm on masakado
@bothdoorscares3878Ай бұрын
@@kaiserkreuz2110 well maybe if his skills aren't actual hax, it'd be a fairer fight. I get the idea of those skills in his base and godborn version, but on 999 EVT, the devs have completely lost me.
@kaiserkreuz2110Ай бұрын
@@bothdoorscares3878 ikr! It's still exploitable, but it's a huge damage check and a test of patience more than a battle in itself, which is a sign of bad design.
@guilhermeguimaraes1858Ай бұрын
Demi fiend having a stroke after hearing ''Debanda, IKE!" or ''Koi'' For the thousand time
@lilliegant73Ай бұрын
gotta love how each uploaded attempt of the infinite loop has been an hour longer than the last
@lilliegant73Ай бұрын
i'd cry trying to do smth like this
@lilliegant73Ай бұрын
also did you have estoma field up at the start because you misinputted trying to menu
@bothdoorscares3878Ай бұрын
@@lilliegant73 that's just attract pipe. Estoma Field's blue.
@lilliegant73Ай бұрын
@@bothdoorscares3878 ohhh i see
@lilliegant73Ай бұрын
i should use attract pipe more
@kaiserkreuz2110Ай бұрын
Peak chad voice Aramasa spamming 😩💦
@Megamitensei2-3Ай бұрын
Imagine getting owned by a guy with his peepee out
@bothdoorscares3878Ай бұрын
It's about how you use it, not its size.
@Megamitensei2-3Ай бұрын
@bothdoorscares3878 i never once mentioned the size tho
@fyiradz9744Ай бұрын
the real nocturne on hard experience
@HashBandicoot356Ай бұрын
Preta out here w it's little hog hangin out.
@ZiroikabiАй бұрын
Being the strongest demons in the game: Preta 🤝 Slime
@markkimuszer0Ай бұрын
Any particular logic behind the party you chose, why you used Mitsuru's Mabufudyne instead of her theurgy (when it was charged) in some cases and why you didn't use Oracle?
@bothdoorscares3878Ай бұрын
@@markkimuszer0 I was just trying to not use theurgia as much as I could at the start then I just gave up. This is one of the most unoptimized gameplay you'd see me doing.
@idonotmakevidsyetАй бұрын
Alternate title: *Dagda cosplays saitama and sends demifiend back to Nocturne*
@lucashuidobro5718Ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for the guide and the strategy, I was able to defeat him with this. Could this also be used with Satan? Just letting him absorb some demon with light weakness?
@bothdoorscares3878Ай бұрын
@@lucashuidobro5718 It would work, just that it'd be a bit harder and longer since Kaiwan is after killing 4 summoned demons. In practice though, an 8 press turn (7 full, 1 half) under 2 sets of turns kill is likely possible nowadays with the current knowledge and that'd be more consistent and easier to retry for. I guess I can show it at a later date.
@bothdoorscares387829 күн бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/qp-yqYWebZtpqNUfeature=shared Here's an idea for it. 3 turns but it works.
@SaShA6572Ай бұрын
Did that work for max Masakado as well?
@bothdoorscares3878Ай бұрын
@@SaShA6572 oh no, I am 100% sure it's impossible there.
@CarlosSilva-bh4biАй бұрын
Imagine fighting a boss and then the son of a gun does, THIS!
@filipower77628 күн бұрын
Mot moment
@PikangsFutabaАй бұрын
Wow... the fight feels like a glacial slug, buuuut taking a look to this, it's a genius move that Demi-Fiend and co. can only watch how they slowly get KO'ed, it was genius the idea of having your own party members get KO'ed (of course safeguard is requiered to only consume the normal turn icons or half of an icon with that Magatsuhi skill enabled, because otherwise it ends your own turn), also Dagda and Danu's combo Magatsuhi allowing you with Strategize to keep the loop going for as long as you want, and let's be honest, even if it feels slow, if you can win the fight, it's a totally valid strategy.
@bothdoorscares3878Ай бұрын
@@PikangsFutaba By all accounts, the 8 press turns is more than enough to kill in this. It's honestly more of a hilarious party trick, more than anything else. Although when you combine it with using the most LL demons possible is when it turns into a genuine necessity.
@CarlosMWАй бұрын
I love how fun this strat looks lol
@alexanderli8566Ай бұрын
After many years of his mothers wisdom dagda finally have a insane amount of omagatoki drugs he punch really hard