Spoke with the Forest Service, they are aware there is a problem with people shooting there, but layers of gov't make it hard to get anything done. People are not supposed to be shooting within x distance of a trail, but there no signage to inform that there is a trail there. they can be issued a fine if caught but really no FS presence. gotta think as the weather gets nicer there will be more people shooting out there. maybe mtnbers need to post our own signs in the mean time?

Can you ride e-bikes like surrons?

Been riding Cliffrose for several months now. Love the trail system. Not so happy about folks continuing to shoot handguns, rifles, and shotguns within the trail system as little as 50 yards off the trail. Waiting to hear from the Forest Service to see if this practice is allowed.

I had some gnarly mountain bike crashes on this trail back when i rode. My worst was when i was going uphill, and completely worn out. I fell over, did not stick an arm out, and a rock sticking up broke my ribs. I never really got back on or back in shape after that.

EXCELLENT!

Great video, but God-awful music.

Cool Beans!

Where is the Church Rocks trail head?

We ran into you on Guacamole, you were mapping a new section. You even gave us a couple of your cd's. love them!

Thank you for the video. We’re going to check it out this weekend!

This looks awesome. Thanks for making this video. I've been looking for video of these trails. Thanks!

Sweet more riding out this way. I didn't even realize there was a new park out there. How did you even come across this info anyway of a new park? Keep doing what you do and keep posting new great stuff.

Great video! How easy is it to find the parking lot?

Fun trail! Not sure which direction is better. You missed the features BTW.

What’s the obsession with exploiting every last good thing?

Watch out for Moose. They will and are capable of Ending You. I seen one Stomp a Big Black Bear too death literally Popped it’s Skull open! They are wickedly Quick and Scary Power

You missed the features ;) redo

"You're on a black diamond, baby. You're gunna die."

What computer/GPS are you using on the bike?

are these trails also called Cliffrose Trails?

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Since it's a DH from 'upper Deer Valley', where would you park to link up these trails? Thanks for riding it, didn't hear a thing from DV about the newest trails!

Bruce's videos are a treasure trove of possible rides, I'd like to hear you narrate instead of music. Many new riders have NO clue where these trails are, even where to park. Your insight is gold after this many years. BST from Levitate toward Sensei is blocked from Sept 9, 2024 til spring for now, but the many trails within are amazing.

Some of that trail looks like it gets very little use. Skyline is a great road for a quite adventure. Very beautiful up there.

Love the song Bruce

Way to clear the techy rocky parts! You schooled that guy walking lol. Good job on these vids. Your talents are very under appreciated and rarely seen.

Good video, you captured the feel of riding the trail.

Looks fun...I'm heading there this weekend. Yopu went clockwise....How do you think it would be going counter-clockwise?

Thanks, Bruce. Excellent work!

Enjoy your parodies, Weird Bruce. Give the Yank a river run for his money.

I appreciate these so much! Fun to see you all and especially daughter Allyson and son-in-love Gary.

Lyrics for the songs on the video soundtrack... Learning to Row (based on Tom Petty's Learning to Fly) Well I started out Driving from my home Got a flattened tire But I'm not alone Rigging the raft Get it all tied down We're on our own Long way out of town I'm learning to row Pushing on the oars Shoulders tired And my hands are sore I'm rowing on Passing by the trees Got the oar Bumping past my knees CHORUS Well some say rafts Are a lot of work I do my part Cause I'm not a jerk So I'm on the oars Erwin tells me how Got my line Through the rapids now CHORUS ----- Dodging the Wasps (based on The Rolling Stones' Walking The Dog) Mercy me, what do I see A swarm of wasps, out in front of me Yellow stripes, circling in the heat Buzzing round, while I try to eat Dodge the wasps I'm just dodging the wasps If you're gonna do some rafting I'll show you how to dodge those wasps Slow down, and take a careful look These bugs have got me feelin shook No chance to just enjoy the view Been strung more than a time or two CHORUS Tell me honey, right on the money How's the raft trip goin You know you got no chance, wasps make you dance Now you're gonna take a sting CHORUS repeat 1st verse CHORUS, etc ----- Rafting Woman (based on Fleedwood Mac's Gold Dust Woman) Row on, rafting woman Grip your rowing oars, and hit the hole Raging rapids Better turn your raft into the spray Rafting in the morning Enter on the tongue and go on down Ride the Salmon, pick your line and you'll row til river's end Til the river ends The rapid's starting now Do you know how To dodge all the rocks to get home You'll read the water right Til you take flight Dropping with your raft in a hole Row on, rafting queen Dodging rocks and holes within the rapids Tired arms mess up rowing Better get that raft on down the flow down the flow CHORUS Vocal autro ad lib ----- Rafting on the Salmon (based on Neil Young's Rockin in the Free World) Rumble of the rapids Splashing water in the air Pulling on the oars hard We are rafting there There are rocks and holes in the way ahead But the views on the river are great they said Shoulders tired but I'm rowing on Raft on the water at the break of dawn Keep on rafting down the Salmon Keep on rafting down the Salmon Keep on rafting down the Salmon Keep on rafting down the Salmon White water rafting Not an easy thing Earning every mile For the joy it brings Eagles and osprey in the canyon here Ancient rock forms the gorge I hear Rafting on through the smoky air This is the way we can leave our cares CHORUS Mountain sheep are on the beaches There are chukkars calling out Ponderosa shades the camp site That's what it's all about Rafting on down on a river wild Got a big grin feeling like a child Got a few holes and some rocks to miss Dirty and wet but it's total bliss CHORUS CHORUS

You have a label of Coal Creek but the rapid being run is I believe Three Fords,, that follows right after Wire Fence,, 20 or so miles yet to go from Three fords to Coal Creek

I think the song is funny! Want to try this trail needed to know if it was worth the drive and the time! Thanks for the vid!

Where on the trail are those ruins?

Man the outhouse there is nicer than my house! Great trail system...

We love your Mountain Bike video 😂Similar thoughts in our Mountain bike video too 😂 kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaqcl2RrrL6Aatksi=h4HfWTwivxWzf0QX

That was good! Your version will be in my head now everytime I confront those pesky headwinds. It will replace what usually goes through my brain, “It’s just a tailwind. In my FACE!”.

Thanks for coming to town Bruce! There are other trails "old" and newer in the Southview Trail System to check out too...ranging from green to black. And another on the way this season! (also starting near the campground). The BLM, The Forest Service, IMBA, and Iron Trailcraft have all been working together for years to build a variety of trails in Iron County.

Momma Don't let your Baby Grow up to Run Rivers (Based on Mommas Don't let your Babies Grow up to be Cowboys by Waylon Jennings and Willie Nelson) Momma don't let your baby grow up to run rivers Don't let her sleep outside and poop in the trees Don't let her get bug bites and sunburn her knees Momma don't let your baby grow up to run rivers Just teach her to flirt and to serve cups of tea Your princess is what she must be Your darling will always be fragile You don't want a tough girl Confidence comes on the raft She'll come off too strong With big rafting muscles Won't act like she's helpless In life she will make her own way she likes river running And she likes to row She might move to Moab some day CHORUS You want her to marry a rich guy You dress her up slutty But she takes off the dresses and puts on the floatation vest To keep her your princess and keep her all girly Important you teach her to flirt It will take a rich man to pamper your princess Rafting will get in the way CHORUS Miles to Row (Based on Ohio by Neil Young) The river it flows a long way Many miles to camp I know I'm rowing the raft a long day So tired but miles to go Keep the raft moving Just keep rowing on down Should have hit camp long ago Desolation has Rocks and waves all around Still got miles and miles to go The river raft keeps on rolling Arms tired and and painful though We're late and the time is tolling Back hurts but miles to go CHORUS Rafting Obsession (Based on Manic Depression by Jimi Hendrix) Rafting obsession is leaving me broke I want a new raft but I, I just don't know how to go about buying it My own raft and trailer Get only the best, that's my goal Rafting obsession, corrupting my soul I spend all my money on rivers I run Though I can't afford it, my own raft would be fun Need a sweet cata-raft, wish I could address, could address Rafting obsession is a frustrating mess Borrow my friends raft, I'll row it on down Wanting my own raft, best to be found Need a sweet cata-raft, wish I could address, could address Rafting obsession is a frustrating mess Desolation (Based on La Grange by ZZ Top) Gonna raft on down, we're out of town And the cliffs are dry and warm (Desolation Canyon what I'm talkin bout) I'll row the raft, loaded fore and aft A little sun won't do no harm (Gonna float down Desolation) Ah mercy The rafting's fine, we'll take our time The desert river, great to be makin We'll raft all day, gonna splash and play On the beach the sun is bakin Repeat 2nd verse

Trails look great. I'll head up there to check out the system.

You make it look so easy…but I feel exhausted by the end… 🚴

Is a review of Lost Lad coming too Bruce?

😂 Brilliant!! My wife and I just moved to Cedar… learning the trails… great view of the 13th hole and LOL great parody song- so true

What a fun old video. I've ridden this loop several times. I actually prefer doing a 2nd Water out and back to avoid all the people. Kinda wish I had ridden this on my old Bridgestone MB2. There must have been more water crossings in the old days. Here is a 2nd Water video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3Smlp5vbcSsr5o

THAT was hilarious! and the riding was good too! I went on new years day, so i beat the snow, it was nice and grippy. Pierce's video is nuts, I was atop one of those lines they did and was like, NO WAY

Nice! Hope to check em out end of month before it gets too hot...although these have a bit of elevation

Looks like a sweet trail. So sorry to hear you had to have open heart! Glad you are feeling up to riding!

Congrats on getting back into it Bruce!!

This song is awesome! Is that you singing? Good to see another video on this stuff - some seriously steep climbs out there.