David Arthur and GCN now pushing 40c road tires.......
@HughJaynus123Сағат бұрын
I really dislike the CADE MEDIA people and their condescending attitudes. A whole room of Keir Starmer types talking nonsense whilst working exclusively for their own best interests. The WOKENESS is infuriating. Sounding intelligent with a Geordie accent is an exercise in futility.
@HughJaynus123Сағат бұрын
I purchased TWO Bowman Palace frames on the basis of his infamous 10/10 review (on bike cc I think)... turns out they were death traps and the company went bust and left a lot of customers without refunds..... I did not know that Neil Bowman and Dave Arthur were MATES..............THANKS DAVE !
@HughJaynus1232 сағат бұрын
Do CADE MEDIA..... the cycling equivilant of Kier Starmer and the loonies in the Labour party....
@GunnzTT8 сағат бұрын
The watt life next please it is literally an ad channel and it's really painful to watch his content, some London rich guy trying to be an influencer
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST5 сағат бұрын
I have seen it. The guy is like the Jake Paul of cycling. Thinks anyone who questions anything is a hater and that you are jealous of his wealth and success etc... Thanks for reminding me. It was before I started this channel I had this experience with this pretentious 🤡. Great suggestion, I am on it👍👍
@GreenEverAfter14 сағат бұрын
Thought you had purchased a Ltwoo groupset to go with it? Changed your mind on that one? Anyway, i own few bikes in my lifetime and come to the conclusion that it is all about your fit in the bike what makes you faster and not the bike frame necessarily. The frame is a tiny % of that frontal aero drag. Tyres and tyre pressure make much more difference to speed than any frame out there.
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST13 сағат бұрын
I agree lol but also You are the thing that makes it go fast. So being comfortable on the bike is a big factor, but if that frame is uncomfortable and harsh, so matter how good you bike fit is it will be uncomfortable. All factors work together.. I still have the Ltwoo GROUPSET and may fit in the future but I am happy with Microshift and also the mechanical to hydraulic brakes for now. I have a new chainsets to go on to save a bit of weight and some wheels also, but getting the weight down on this strange Aero looking but Grand touring riding machine will be hard if price is a factor. Super comfortable though.
@GreenEverAfter12 сағат бұрын
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST what do you make up of the Ltwoo groupset so far? Your first impressions even without having it installed. Bought myself one last night as it is going as cheap as chips......
@OldDavo195017 сағат бұрын
These Industry mouthpieces to fund their channel. You get occasional word of wisdom but it is usually a Ad in its main content.
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST15 сағат бұрын
I really don't know why all these KZbin cycling Influencers want to go full time? It's an absolute joke. They just want to get presents, open boxes film it and stick it together ride it once and then flog it all on eBay .... They have the ad revenue, which is 🥜s and usually channel sponsors.. But in the process of selling their soles wanting to run away from their previous Jobs they hated, they fail to think about what happens if no one sends me any junk to punt?? To hedge this they say nice things about everything..... Put a string up their @$$ and pull and you get the picture...
@BrianAndTheBike19 сағат бұрын
At this point mainstream cycling is just that chapter of Malcom in The middle when hal uses that cringy skinsuit to run faster against his neightbor, same mindset and levels of cringe
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST15 сағат бұрын
Chinese cycling industry is fast becoming the same and it's a shame. It seems commonplace now in all industries. Look at the price of Dacia cars the other day and now to they have a good rep, same price as all the others in class
@whynotride327Күн бұрын
Honestly I have given up on watching any and all of these channels as a source of good info.
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST23 сағат бұрын
Good man 👌👍💪
@tootles74Күн бұрын
Brilliant been waiting for this one and so glad you didn't hold back.
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLISTКүн бұрын
I think Patrick Lieo will be also worth a revisit at some time.
@decoherence926Күн бұрын
Do Dave Arthur next.
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLISTКүн бұрын
Dunlop Dave has definitely hit 2025 with a Shilling Bang. The 🔔 end was flogging cheap AliExpress items 2 days ago with the sponsor and now channel long term collaborator, yes you guessed it, AliExpress. Expect to see him at kings cross station very soon... Video incoming on tongue 👅 twister Dave soon.😉
@robhamp9408Күн бұрын
If any of them go any lower they will almost be aero bikes locked up on the corner of a red light district. The one where the Offy Brasso off the sell by dates on the out of date pork pies and White lightning is a Zone two work out.
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLISTКүн бұрын
😅😅😅😅👌👍
@youarevictoria4981Күн бұрын
props on making it here Patrick.
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLISTКүн бұрын
Patrick Lieo was guaranteed a place with his BS shill for $$$$
@kovar2344Күн бұрын
Pushes Tavelo and Specialized. Magically gets parts from Chinese brands to review and went from budget bikes to top spec. Literal definition of a shill lmao.
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLISTКүн бұрын
You are 💯 right 👍👍👍👍
@pedrolahozКүн бұрын
These youtube commentators started sharing their positive experience with gear which is well priced, so much so, most would believe the products are no good, yet they are. As someone that has also experimented with chinese parts and have had excellent results, I cant disagree with them. I dont understand the rant against them.
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLISTКүн бұрын
If you don't understand and all has been explained in the video there is nothing I can do for you.... But.... Yes some Chinese products are good but some are complete garbage. I own and ride a Chinese Bike, (Trifox X10), (which is more than Patrick Lino), and like I said in the video it rides very smooth... But, it's not that fast, doesn't climb that well and it's internal engineering is very bad. But, it's a bike I want to ride all day on UK roads as it is so so smooth and forgiving.... Making broad comments that all Chinese brands are good is another one sided opinion that lacks balance. Now let's deal with the price of this Chinese branded stuff like the Tatvelo. The builds these KZbin influencers are making average $5k and there are so many good western brand bikes with great dealer back up and great warranty that buying these last generation old tech Chinese kit is worthless.... Buy Chinese, buy cheap... It has to stay cheap or it's another smoke and mirrors show by these no R&D cut & paste Chinese bike brands.... My Trifox cost under $500 so I could buy 3 + for the price of a 1 Tavelo. This is not value, performance or even progress, as it definitely isn't 3 times the Frameset... This answers all your questions and explains the situation fully..
@johnkasza2315Күн бұрын
because this channel is about hate..thats his thing..abused as a child is my guess
@pedrolahoz9 сағат бұрын
@@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST thanks, I get it and agree. I feel what you express towards Joe, from panda cicling, who tries to sell chinese stuff at a premium price. The fun of buying chinese is 1. Buying cheap 2. Not knowing what you are going to get 3. The joy of getting something good.
@Bry_Julio_ReyКүн бұрын
"Chris the Piss Miller" 🤣🤣
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLISTКүн бұрын
Or is itCry 😢 baby Chris the p!$$ Miller??? 😉
@icnd1Күн бұрын
This one was long overdue
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLISTКүн бұрын
Yeah I have been sleeping on the job again, blinded by Patrick lieo nice guy front... He has been C nutter and I think he will be C nutter again, as he is a monster shill ....
@ariffauКүн бұрын
He commented on Nero Show for a free Nero jersey. Or was it a skinsuit. I replied “pay full retail”. My reply got more likes than his comment.
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLISTКүн бұрын
Good man for calling Patrick on his @$$ licking, slime ball, grifting ways...👌👍💪
@petejohnКүн бұрын
Besides anything else, is he not just offering the same review type content that we've had for the last 5 years? Newsflash... Its 2025 and we're all bored of it. This guy shows a complete lack of imagination.
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLISTКүн бұрын
💯 agree. It's like they are all they want to be part of the human centipede that is alive in the cycling industry and will literally do anything for the 💰💰💰💰.
@Bry_Julio_ReyКүн бұрын
They all delete and shadow ban you from their comments
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLISTКүн бұрын
Most of the time.
@JoeyMills-y3vКүн бұрын
Manipulation of comment sections is a big part of a shills job, so of course they do lol. It's been going on for decades, I'm astounded most people aren't aware of it by now.
@MrAntiShillКүн бұрын
He seems desperate to be a big shill. Constantly worshipping Chris Shiller in his comments section. It’s shameless.
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLISTКүн бұрын
Well said 👌👍💪
@Livitt351Күн бұрын
One for the algorithm
@Livitt351Күн бұрын
They keep removing my comment
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLISTКүн бұрын
My channel is getting hammered by KZbin. They want to kill any conversation and outing of these shilling 🤡 s and every video I have to appeal for it to not limited. They really want this shill machine and the paid up supporter of YT the CCP to keep investing. Looks like we are bad for their businesses 😉👍
@musclelessfitness2045Күн бұрын
I tried to give him the benefit of a doubt, but then he started talking about how great the SL8 and Tavelo are ... Also, he was not answering questions directly, so I was getting annoyed by the minute. It was hard to listen to this interview.
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLISTКүн бұрын
A sign of a shill is someone who drops their 💩 and forks off. I can see that slime ball Lino the lier doing that. Thanks for the info mate as it helps people not just to have my perspective. Keep bringing those truth Bombs.
@_slowpokeКүн бұрын
Free stuff never seems too bad but when you pay for it…. 😬
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLISTКүн бұрын
Exactly 🤫😅😅😅
@lordkambing810Күн бұрын
never trust that guy, he told in his early days "rim brakes 4ever", then switched to dics, and now, a full blown 500% cnut shiller
@JoeyMills-y3vКүн бұрын
Marketing to the African-American demographic, obv.
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLISTКүн бұрын
Yes and all done through talking absolute BS to sell you absolute BS. It says it all when these influencers main goal is to test Chinese kit, live off the money but never own the kit as they sell it all and they own a Spez Tarmac SL8...
@JoeyMills-y3vКүн бұрын
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST he has similar energy to that Marcus brownlee guy, massive apple & tesla shill with millions of fake subs & comments.
@michaelclark3860Күн бұрын
I’ve been waiting for you to cover this guy. He’s barely able to hide it
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLISTКүн бұрын
The guy is an absolute shill. It proves also how much of a shill all these other channels are that make out they are against shilling.. Hambini/Scambini, Chris Miller the shiller, Peak Torque the dork and the list of sell out gang get longer & longer.... Paid Promoters who don't even have to follow KZbin's advertising policy, and they don't care what these scum bags do... Thank for calling out cue ball head Lino the 🤥 r ....
@JoeyMills-y3vКүн бұрын
Lol he took that Tavela & made everything about it worse, at great expense. These shills are utterly shameless 😂
@michaelclark3860Күн бұрын
Totally agree. I don’t think most of them have caught on yet that the more they protest against shilling, the more obvious it is that they’re doing it.
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLISTКүн бұрын
💯 agree 👍.
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLISTКүн бұрын
The Tatvelo he has pimped up is literally made up of over priced useless parts that will make you no faster even in a marginal way, but your wallet will be losing weight at a rapid rate... The complete build must have been closed to $5k. Could go and buy a Trek 2nd tier Madone on discount in the UK with SRAM Force axs, OK wheels and a life time warranty for that price... That's why he doesn't ride what he sells. I ride my Trifox X10 in the UK and my Van Rysel NCR when in Tenerife. I am willing to put my money where my mouth and Patrick Lieo isn't, but he makes a career out of selling Chinese products to others... He is an Absolute 🤥 ING 🔔 end..
@faderblock2 күн бұрын
The man in the video used to inspire me when I started cycling from scratch in June 2023. However, as I continued watching his videos, I lost interest because they seemed to lose substance over time. I just listened to this while cleaning the house and replayed it to comment this out.
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST2 күн бұрын
💯 agree 👍
@ThePaulKat2 күн бұрын
You seem to completely miss the 10t a 48t & 10t combination at 90 cadence gives you a speed of 34mph . Compare this to a standard crank 53t and a more conventional 11t at 90 cadence this gives you 34.1mph. So the 48/10 combo should satisfy everyone who isn’t on the juice.
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST2 күн бұрын
These gear ratios are not suitable for a pro, semi pro or high performance cyclist and these are supposed to be super high end & super high performance bikes... What about descents as well??? But as the only people going to buy them are over weight accounts best put Gravel Gear ratios on an alleged aero bike...
@ThePaulKat2 күн бұрын
@ You do realise that a Pro obviously doesn’t ride these ratios, no off the peg cycle will be fitted with gearing for a pro peloton. Even a “high Performance cyclist” can not propel a bicycle solo at 34mph for 50 or 100 miles. For descending gravity will get you to 60+ mph easily!!!!
@ThePaulKat3 күн бұрын
Pretty far off the mark and no new information tbh. The Colnago factory is still in Italy as it always was, for the past 20 years the Colnago monocoques have been designed in Italy but manufactured in Asia. The Colnago ‘C’ series is still entirely made in Italy as is the steel Master.
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST2 күн бұрын
This video is about the Y1RS and also the current bike ridden by Team UAE, all made in China. Everyone like yourself keeps saying made Asia in an attempt to find some form of value in the product for the price you pay. It's China that's making both these frames so let's stop using the Asia excuse.
@ThePaulKat2 күн бұрын
@ You made sweeping statements about Colnago as a company. For the past 20 years the monocoques which have been raced in the pro peloton have been made in Asia, initially Taiwan by Giant. Like it or not China and Taiwan are world leaders in medium to high volume carbon frame construction. The reason why so many bicycles were made in Italy up to the 90’s wasn’t this “artisan “ quality that people seem to bang on about it was the low cost of labour compared to other European countries. A one point a number of steel Colnago’s were thought to be fake due to poor quality , they weren’t and were made in Italy for Colnago by subcontractors. The value of the product comes from the quality not the origin of manufacture.
@aintnobodygottime4dat3 күн бұрын
Shame
@Raymond-Farts3 күн бұрын
I'm old enough to remember watching David Millar cry like a baby on camera when he got popped for doping. In never cared for the guy after that and certainly wouldn't support anything he is a part of, same with L. Armstrong. There needs to be consequences for cheating, lying, or stealing. So many celebrities get caught and sent to prison, get out, and move on to get even richer. What's the deterrent to crime anymore? To comment on the shoes, Adidas sell the same shoe for $160 US.
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST3 күн бұрын
💯 agree 👍
@nikolausschallhart86544 күн бұрын
While I also do not like asian mass production frames and certainly will not buy one, I also do not see much of a loss in these two brands folding. The reason is, that these brands were not the MANUFACTURERS of the bikes. The manufacturers very likely still exist and are producing the same or very similar bikes under their own brands, likely at an even at a smaller price point. In Italy alone, there are still dozens of small workshops making their frames made to measure at pricepoints competitive to the chinese carbon frames. And even in Great Britain such workshops still exist. You just have to search a little...
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST4 күн бұрын
Both of these brands were more bespoke and controlled more of the process than Chinello and the Bolloxnago bikes for half the money. Also they were more Italian than Bianchi and the other 2 brands above. I expect all the frame builders solely made in the UK that you are talking about here to be double the price or out of business in the next year... It's a sad time
@nikolausschallhart86544 күн бұрын
@@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST I don't dispute that spoon and wyndy milla were more bespoke than major brands, even major italian brands. What I say is, that they were not manufacturers which means that there is no loss in craftmanship (with the exception of their paintshop). Their frames are still build. Not under the name of spoon or wyndy milla but under the name of the brand that made these frames in the first place. Be it Sarto or Daccordi or Barco or Chesini or Casati or Tommasini or Dedacciai or.... If these brands have to close, you have a loss in craftmanship and this would be the real loss. Like it almost happened to Mercian. If Mercian would had to close, it would have been much worse in my oppinion. Or Reynolds, that would be a real loss!
@JSL66564 күн бұрын
Something unlikeable about baldylocks
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST4 күн бұрын
😅😅😅👌
@protocolsoftheridersofdurian4 күн бұрын
In that blurb, he didn't even mention his expertise with pigeons.
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST4 күн бұрын
Durian Ring Rider is also a great pigeon whisper and racer as well... Wow is there anything he can't talk absolute 💩 about???? 😅😅😅
@AG-el6vt5 күн бұрын
What happened? I guess it's a combination of things, but I think this has happened across other industries as well, and it's the natural consequence of the evolution of Capitalism in Western countries: - The search for increased profits is not based anymore on increased output, but on intensifying the profitability of a given product: either make production cheaper (China, cheaper materials, less material, etc.), or sell overpriced stuff through massive marketing and sales operations, about which this channel has spoken up extensively. - Related to the above: Planned obsolescence. Making things to last just isn't profitable enough anymore, when competitors are selling products that are better in the short term, but won't last long, they can cut corners on materials choice, mechanical strength, serviceability... the case of smartphones with batteries that aren't meant to be easily replaced is typical. - Also related to the above: fucking LEAN manufacturing philosophy: minimise costs, minimise stock, minimise time. When there's competition tightening everyone's margins, something has to give. In the case of bike industry, the usual victims are durability and quality assurance. - Indirectly also: the polarisation of wealth, with the richest people accumulating more and more wealth, the market for mid-level products is shrinking, so that only entry-level and top-level products sell well. This is why you can have at the same time the 2022 great inflation, the market overall shrinking since the end of the covid lockdowns, and yet top brands keep churning out the latest flagship models that aren't any better than last year's, but rich mamils will keep buying them.
@AG-el6vt5 күн бұрын
Hi, I have a question about the whole wide/narrower tyre story. If you go to bicyclerollingresistance, they have done entire batteries of tests on certain same model tyres with different width (e.g. for Conti GP5000 in 23/25/28/32mm). Their rolling resistance data show that all tyre widths show almost exactly the same results, as long as they're pumped up to what they called the 'same comfort level', that is, same tyre deflection in mm under the same load. Of course that means wider tyres must be run at lower pressures, which is what sane people will do. While not faster, wider tyres certainly don't look any slower than narrower ones, at least purely due to rolling resistance. So, are they not doing something right? It's never looked to me like they're not honest about their testing. Or am I missing something else here? Edit: this article in particular comes to mind: www.bicyclerollingresistance.com/specials/grand-prix-5000-comparison
@christianb.10285 күн бұрын
I actually don't get the hate against Cade Media. Like their format or their personalities or not, but they are putting out a lot of content with affordable bikes like Decathlon or recently Cube instead of overpriced super bikes. Of course they are sponsored, but they are very open and transparent about it. I'm not a big fan of "Bikefitjames" or their mechanics guy, but one can just skip that...
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST5 күн бұрын
Yes they did highlight the decathlon but that's about it.. They feed the boutique bike lifestyle chasing posers just as much as The Chris Millar cycling show, constantly turning their noses up at Chinese brands, when all of the kit is made in China... Emily reckons that all gyms are breeding grounds for steroid grooming gangs, but her and Jimmy haven't been to a gym in 10 years.. And Jimmy classifies alloy as a useless material for bikes and says they are all Rubbish next to carbon. This LV of incompetence from Emily, Jimmy, Bike fit James & tight as ducks chuff Campy romantic mechanic Nick the D!CK just says it all really. But each to his own...
@DiesUndDasOderDasDa4 күн бұрын
Just watch their exchange about aluminium frames or, much worse, doping in the pro peloton. The latter has been given the Controversial Cyclist Treatment (i.e., you can see the crater from space now...) I'm confident this will do the trick. :-)
@sazridesbikes6 күн бұрын
Cabewooting. Gralbike. OPEN YOUR MOUTH WHEN YOU SPEAK.
@sazridesbikes6 күн бұрын
The Beavis and Butthead of KZbin and cycling. Whiny nonsense, all they can talk about is aero this aero that and wheels. In stupidly changing ways of speaking. And those thumbnails …. Can’t be doing.
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST5 күн бұрын
I 💯 agree. Bevis & Butt head that is brilliant 😅👍
@daytch94856 күн бұрын
Well said, I think the bike manufacturers and some of the industry needs and deserves an ear full. Introducing high price, high tech that the average cyclist doesn't need and planning obsolescence for the products that serve them well in order to maybe make a buck but looks like it has backfired and is actually losing people their jobs
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST6 күн бұрын
💯 Agree 👍. Great comment 👌💪
@drooghead6 күн бұрын
I've always thought there was something off about Peak Torque. I wish I could unsee that dancing video. Durianrider is a funny guy but at least he lives a car free life and rescues birds.
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST6 күн бұрын
Peak Torque is a complete shill. Check out my video of him shilling carbon work $7k carbon Frameset with alloy couplings. Galvanic corrosion incoming 😉🤫. Durian Rider says he is an animal lover but his good friend OZ Cycles went to prison for torturing a dog for a week and then killed it 🤬🤬. Oz Cycle is sick in the head and doesn't deserve to have a platform on KZbin for this in my opinion and Durian Rider to have him as a friend says who he really is... Veganism and being an animal lover is all manipulated 🤥 to sell you his cult lifestyle and life coaching etc.. All shilling grifters out to rob you of your cash IMHO.
@danwentcycling79527 күн бұрын
Hilarious that you can accuse anyone of waffling. Never heard such ignorant drivel , empty ranting and supposition. UK’s own Durianrider - I glimpsed two of your videos; won’t be back.
@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST7 күн бұрын
Don't cry 😢 Dan went cycling... You have a weekly podcast from these 2 🤡 shows where they wax lyrical about what is frothy between 3 carbon wheelsets for 1.5hrs to look forward too.. Week in, week out, of their Narasist drivel whilst they think they are actual Pro cyclists 😂😂😂 They are that deluded they were begging for people like your self to get them to 100k subs in 3 weeks from 58k 😂😂 What a pair of deluded tards...... Next thing you are going to tell me is that you and them are the best cyclists ever and that you could of all made it pro if only it wasn't because of your twisted socks 🧦. I have many other videos about this potensious wannabe Aussy 🎛️ heads for you to 😢 over on my channel.. Check them out, you won't like them, but it will get you very upset 😭😉😂😂