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@HB2K-h8m
@HB2K-h8m 5 сағат бұрын
I grew up playing 2nd ed. Got back into 40k in the last couple of years now my son is of age to play. Subconsciously I have come up with quite a similar system to play with him because full fat 10th ed 40k is a bit much, and combat patrol is great but a bit samey if you've only got a handful of patrols. Plus my son loves to use his tanks! Will definitely give this a go. Cheers!
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 5 сағат бұрын
Tanks are excellent! Stay tuned as I’ve got some coming up on the channel very soon! Let me know how you get on!
@chewinggumchicken
@chewinggumchicken 13 сағат бұрын
very nice. Hope you get some wyches for xmas and can do a video about them!
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 13 сағат бұрын
Thank you very much!
@BruderSenf
@BruderSenf 19 сағат бұрын
1: pain token (at least 1) 2: cp (2) 3: a raider at the rigth place at the right time 4: nightmare shroud if that occurs, something of really high value will just evaporate, there is nearly no way to screw it up...but getting to this point can be really finicky
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 14 сағат бұрын
You’ve got to have your wits about you!
@lordmalal
@lordmalal Күн бұрын
Does OPR send bots to comment on videos like this? There are multiple different accounts giving nearly identical comments promoting it.
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel Күн бұрын
It’s a bit odd! It’s a bit like they’ve not considered the point I’m making. If I wanted to play OPR I’d go play OPR. But I don’t. And considering I don’t get any responses either…. Either way, boosts my comment section engagement 😂😂
@Ironfrenzy217
@Ironfrenzy217 Күн бұрын
I like 40k just the secondary objective switching messes with me.
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel Күн бұрын
That’s cool! I agree with the secondary switching, it gets a bit much.
@Miniscape-wh40k
@Miniscape-wh40k Күн бұрын
Some great ideas here. Thank you for sharing.
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel Күн бұрын
Thank you!
@empeming
@empeming Күн бұрын
I think this is the weirdest thing about 40k, despite its insane success as a franchise there is such little support for making smaller games accessible. Like the idea!
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel Күн бұрын
Thank you very much!
@mrtacoeater47
@mrtacoeater47 Күн бұрын
I just play poorhammer’s horde mode with my friends or one page rules
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel Күн бұрын
Need to give it a look in. I know about tabletop tactics horde mode
@mrtacoeater47
@mrtacoeater47 Күн бұрын
@ it’s pretty fun it’s nice to just play cooperatively and have fun with your friends instead of fighting your friends
@grahamcrackergaming630
@grahamcrackergaming630 Күн бұрын
Great ideas - definitely a pain point for 40k
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel Күн бұрын
Thanks! Have a go and let me know how you get on!
@kippbeard5624
@kippbeard5624 Күн бұрын
Or u could try opr
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel Күн бұрын
I’m happy to! Other people with little time may just stick to one system.
@sirrathersplendid4825
@sirrathersplendid4825 Күн бұрын
As a historical gamer I don’t understand 40K’s obsession with Objective Points. I would bin them entirely and replace them with a Mission, which is the sole reason for your Space Marines, Slanesh or whatever to be on the battlefield. Two example missions: 1) Recover a data crystal lost in a crash. 2) Slaughter all the mutants in an infected colony.
@sirrathersplendid4825
@sirrathersplendid4825 Күн бұрын
Obviously, your opponent has the reverse missions, e.g. to protect the mutants which are an experiment conducted by your top scientists. As I understand it, 40K doesn’t use morale or shock: I would introduce these as a #1 priority.
@zarlus8
@zarlus8 Күн бұрын
​@@sirrathersplendid482540k has the mechanic of battleshock which uses a leadership profile to pass/fail.
@empeming
@empeming Күн бұрын
I think the last few years GW has really leaned into competitive/matched play which is why everything revolves around them. It's alot easier to sell models when you're cycling around their viability in the highly competitive game.
@sirrathersplendid4825
@sirrathersplendid4825 Күн бұрын
@@empeming - I guess there are plenty of competitive players out there. I enjoy winning too. But I prefer to just have fun :-) But I also want something that’s immersive and real. In a real life you’re not playing for points but rather to achieve a set goal. To have a scenario where all you’re after are abstracted circular Objective Markers worth abstracted nominal points seems like a total cop out.
@lordmalal
@lordmalal Күн бұрын
@sirrathersplendid4825 Narrative missions are by their nature asymmetrical which works against game balance. Both the game designers and the player base want a balanced game. That's the way it is.
@noocnik
@noocnik 2 күн бұрын
Just play OPR it's quicker than this video 😜
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 2 күн бұрын
Go! I’ll time you 😝
@Sa3vis
@Sa3vis 2 күн бұрын
I want to try this I think
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 2 күн бұрын
It’s good fun!
@RedemptiveChief
@RedemptiveChief 2 күн бұрын
graaaaant
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 2 күн бұрын
Not doxxxxxxing youuuuuuuuuuuu
@JeSuisYash
@JeSuisYash 2 күн бұрын
You guys should try Alternate 40k Rules, it's a good amalgamation of most editions ironed out
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 2 күн бұрын
Got a link?
@ThroatSore
@ThroatSore 2 күн бұрын
So people are telling yoy that the game lacks flavour. You don't agree. Fair enough. Why are they saying this?
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 2 күн бұрын
Largely depends on who you ask - you can find a number of YT channels with their own treatise on the subject, so I’ll not attempt to represent their opinions as I’ll end up butchering or misrepresenting them. I think from my perspective, it’s because the game has been overly formalised, to the point where things have become a bit too predictable and reliable - some of the RNG-iness is being removed by min/maxing units and armies to be super reliable, or playing the same missions and terrain set ups feels repetitive and dull after a number of games. This is an attempt to address the latter, which theoretically affects the former. I’m in a car (being driven!) and getting a bit motion sick so will pause there 😅😅
@micahdouglas2982
@micahdouglas2982 2 күн бұрын
This sounds fun. Until you have to play in a tournament and you haven’t practiced secondaries.
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 2 күн бұрын
Aha, well if you were doing a WTC tournament, I would suggest getting some practice with that format! If you were a tournament player and were learning a new army, I would suggest this to get to grips with the army rules, then move on to Tournie practice.
@jakepeat690
@jakepeat690 2 күн бұрын
Not everyone plays 40k so they can go to a tournament. I'd even suggest most players don't
@Jeff-ne1lh
@Jeff-ne1lh 2 күн бұрын
Or you could just play One Page Rules...
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 2 күн бұрын
They could! However, this is for people who don’t want to learn a new game system.
@noacier6666
@noacier6666 2 күн бұрын
​@@PluckeesChannel opr really isn't that hard to learn as a new system
@nanoid314
@nanoid314 3 күн бұрын
Another way to freshen things up: Play with alternating activations. My son and I have been doing this for about four months and have never been tempted to go back to the official way to do it. We just superimpose the two turns in each battle round, so first we determine who has the initiative (the winner of the turn one roll off). Then it's the command phase where we alternate doing orders (Guard), Oath of Moment, Waagh and so on. Then in the movement phase we alternate moving our units. We start by counting how many units we each have that could do something, then is one side has at least double the number of the other, that side will be activating two units a time. We then decided to change the order of the phases a little to give melee armies a chance, so after movement (and reinforcements) comes charges then fighting and then shooting. We mark activated units with little tokens and you are allowed to activate a unit to do nothing. This way of playing obviously alters the balance of the game, but it is still recognizably 40K, and we like it a lot.
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 3 күн бұрын
I LOVE alternating activations - I play Legions Imperialis & Adeptus Titanicus which both use it. I really rate AA but I think it’s probably outside of the scope of this. I personally think AA is the way forward for 40K, but I can’t see it changing for a while unfortunately!
@MrZauberelefant
@MrZauberelefant 2 күн бұрын
​@@PluckeesChannelquick to pick up, and free, and playtested, is one page rules
@HB2K-h8m
@HB2K-h8m 5 сағат бұрын
We also did this when using one of the highly sculpted boards at Warhammer World, a sort of 40k / Kill Team hybrid. It was fun but very brutal!
@Duppyman695
@Duppyman695 3 күн бұрын
I like this quick play idea! I don't like Detachments, it seems they are (in game marketing) to get people buying more models to fit a Detachment. We just use Faction Stratagems as a list and pick 4,5,6 Faction Stratagems each and it turns out more skill involved in choosing what Faction Stratagems will work with your list!
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 3 күн бұрын
I see that from a few people - unfortunately for me I have too many models for my armies because I’m a sucker for it 😅😅 I like that idea a lot! So you just pick like “a deck” from the codice’s stratagems? What about the detachment rules?
@Duppyman695
@Duppyman695 3 күн бұрын
@@PluckeesChannel we don't play the Detachment rules, just too much to remember. Choosing Faction Stratagems enables you to build what ever lists you want, not restricted to fit a Detachment and for example: pick 2 that work well with vehicles and 2 from another Detachment that work well with Infantry. I have never liked marketing bleeding into the rules!
@dontthinkjustcharge
@dontthinkjustcharge 3 күн бұрын
That Plz Stay moment got me ngl 😂 I've been making One Page Rules content for ages so I haven't had many games of 10th with any flavour of Aeldari, I am getting curious again though...
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 3 күн бұрын
🤣🤣
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 3 күн бұрын
Give it a go friend! I’ve tried OPR GDFF, need to give GDF a go, I had fun with GDFF!
@dontthinkjustcharge
@dontthinkjustcharge Күн бұрын
@PluckeesChannel I love GDF because it's less time investment to just get your minis on the table and start blasting, but sometimes I do miss the unhinged combos you can make. I love Wyches and the idea of Lelith and a squad just blending anything they look at seems really fun lol. Perhaps one day we can do a little cross channel thing and you can take me through a 10th edition Drukhari beat down!
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel Күн бұрын
That sounds like a fab idea!
@dontthinkjustcharge
@dontthinkjustcharge Күн бұрын
@PluckeesChannel awesome, well I'm on Instagram under the same name so if you did want to chat about it then send me a message over there and we could chat about it!
@leftistadvocate9718
@leftistadvocate9718 3 күн бұрын
nah just play an older edition
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 3 күн бұрын
For some that may be sound advice! Not all will be familiar with older editions though.
@leftistadvocate9718
@leftistadvocate9718 2 күн бұрын
@@PluckeesChannel than familiarise yourself with it. 8th is basically 10th but simpler
@davidring681
@davidring681 Сағат бұрын
@@leftistadvocate9718why would I go back a play an old version of a game? That makes no sense. I’d have to buy old books if I can find them and find other players who will also do the same thing. Plus they might not even have rules for the models now cus lots of new stuff has come out. So I guess you just can’t use those models? Seems like a crazy solution.
@thisiswatwedo1212
@thisiswatwedo1212 3 күн бұрын
I just tried learning 10th Ed recently on Table Top Simulator. Which Leaning TTS is exhausting in its self, but while also learning 40k it made my head like it was gonna explode with all the info i had to take in. I think if i wanted to learn 40k, id do it in chucks of first just learning how unites and models move, shoot and fight with no special abilities or tricks, and only having to do basic Primary missions with no Secondary's. then build up to have secondary's, and slowly using more of my army faction rules. Although it might a be a bit boring at first at least ill get the basics down and be able to have fun rolling more dice a bit later. im still new so idk if this would be reasonable but i think it would of helped me more to learn this way thank to info dump me with everything.
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 3 күн бұрын
I deffo think chunking and learning smaller bits at a time is the way forward when you’re just starting out. Learning how to use TTS is also a right pain in the craw. I think deffo learning smaller bits scale (less than 1k points) is the best way forward; if you go straight to 2k you’re gonna have a bad time
@Haplo699g
@Haplo699g 3 күн бұрын
The rulebook in the Ultimate Starter Set (Combat Patrol) does this. I haven't played the tutorial missions in a while, but I remember the first one. You put your Warlords in base to base contact and melee, first one to die loses.
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 3 күн бұрын
@@Haplo699g That’s cool! I’ve not had need to look at any of the starter set stuff, I’ll see if I can take a look - would be good to see what they’re suggesting.
@peters.9463
@peters.9463 3 күн бұрын
Hi, that is a really nice idea! I totally understand your point. I came back to the hobby since about a year or so and I only played two games in WH40K so far. First because I had to completely reorganize my army from the 90s. Then I have got really confused about the way 40K works today. All those stuff you have to add on the fly and remind yourself to. So many exceptions and trigger you have to be aware of. I have to admit, my last games before that were in 2nd and 3rd edition rule sets. Yes, there was also a lot to keep in mind, but it felt different. It was somewhat more clear what to expect from a unit and from enemies. Fortunately I found a gaming club near my place. Unfortunately they only play WTC rules. So any narrative plays do not happen and they are relatively strict regarding the terrain placement. Maybe I can convince someone to use the system you have introduced in the video? I will at least try :) Thanks for the idea! Have a merry Christmas and a happy new year!
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 3 күн бұрын
WTC rules can get a bit complicated. If you’re just starting out/returning to the game, I don’t think think 2k games of tournament play are the one. You need to go for basics before you’re going for skill mastery.
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 5 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching all! and have a very merry Christmas! I'll be back in the new year with Tanks and Gas Masks, and Shovels... Trenching Shovels!
@Russellmeine
@Russellmeine 5 күн бұрын
I’d rather just play one page rules.
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 5 күн бұрын
Fair - I've played GrimDark Future Firefight and had a good time. I think there are a number of folk though that won't want to move out of the 40k space to learn new army rules and such. This is aimed at them!
@Russellmeine
@Russellmeine 5 күн бұрын
@@PluckeesChannelbut youve articulated the issue I’ve had for along time. 40k and even AOS just are so exhausting. Just trying to keep all the units special rules and abilities in my head is even too much at times. Then add all the additional layers of rules and it’s just too much to be enjoyable.
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 5 күн бұрын
Appreciate that! I’m in a gaming community that doesn’t necessarily want to move to a different ruleset because you have to bring a lot of people with you in order to do that. For Most people I know, gaming isn’t the biggest thing in their life (most of my friends have Kids and such now!) so getting people to move game systems or pick up a new system is a huge task. This is why I think tweak what is available, and I think people are far more amenable to the table set up than changing armies or systems!
@HB2K-h8m
@HB2K-h8m 5 сағат бұрын
Boarding actions is also great for a game that is quick but still 40k. A much more curated experience obviously, and you need the terrain for it which isn't cheap.
@jaykubisanidiot8657
@jaykubisanidiot8657 5 күн бұрын
Ah yes, the ole Eldar Bullshittery strategy!
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 5 күн бұрын
heheheheh
@carldooley9344
@carldooley9344 6 күн бұрын
My Grav-cannons say, 'wassup!'
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 6 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@JamesOlverAR
@JamesOlverAR 6 күн бұрын
Any chance of Sexy Bird BOATS!?!
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 6 күн бұрын
Ha! Maybe!
@JamesOlverAR
@JamesOlverAR 6 күн бұрын
I'll settle for a GREAT Eagle? Maybe he pulls sexy Bird Boats on his days off?
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 6 күн бұрын
Let's see what I can do!
@Lothrean
@Lothrean 6 күн бұрын
I really think they are a noob trap. Sure, they do a little bit better into vehicles statistically, but they are way worse than dark lances against everything else.
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 6 күн бұрын
This comes from a video more aimed at a casual player base than a competitive one - this is covered in that!
@M1lza
@M1lza 6 күн бұрын
My favorite weapons. Too specific and if you face monsters is useless but still very good.
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 6 күн бұрын
Absolutely - they can really hurt but you have to put them into the right thing or you are screwed!
@spacedoutmatt7805
@spacedoutmatt7805 6 күн бұрын
Glad I found this channel. As someone who finds 40K a bit intimidating I would love to see more of these army review videos from you. Graphics or pictures to compare good and bad situations, positioning, etc would also be extremely helpful
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 6 күн бұрын
Thank you! I’ll keep it coming!
@foxtrot1232
@foxtrot1232 7 күн бұрын
Would love to see more videos like this for Drukhari
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 7 күн бұрын
Working on it! I’ve made a full length one, you can find it on my channel 😁😁
@deleted4664
@deleted4664 8 күн бұрын
if i remember correctly devastating only triggers on a natural 6
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 8 күн бұрын
Typically yes! But if you score a wound with a weapon that has Anti-vehicle/infantry or whatever, it triggers on the roll for that, so you actually score the dev wound on that. In this example, the Haywire has a anti-vehicle 4+ and dev wounds. If it shot an infantry, it would dev wound them on a 6, but if it goes into the vehicle, it triggers on a 4+.
@xXsirdevilXx
@xXsirdevilXx 6 күн бұрын
No, in this instance the anti vehicle is the important part. Devastating wounds are stated in 10th as activating on a "critical wound" NOT a 6. Weapons that have the "Anti X" ability score a "CRITICAL WOUND" on that specific unit type, on a X+ roll. So an anti-vehicle 4+ weapon scored a "critical wound" on a 4+ and therefore activates the devastating wounds ability
@M1lza
@M1lza 6 күн бұрын
The anti rule Say that every hit of the anti value (4+ in this) apply a crit (Is like you roll a 6)
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 6 күн бұрын
@@M1lza exactly!
@indrenav4610
@indrenav4610 8 күн бұрын
🙀🙀🙀
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 7 күн бұрын
😻😻
@grantchapman-clarke902
@grantchapman-clarke902 8 күн бұрын
Ha, love the cat
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 7 күн бұрын
😻😻😻
@kl6686
@kl6686 11 күн бұрын
Great video, I’m just starting to collect and paint these sato-pirates and appreciate the insights. Always wanted them and happy to get going
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 11 күн бұрын
Glad to have helped! Let me know how you’re getting on with them!
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 11 күн бұрын
I’ve seen that there’s a new Detachment for the drukhari - I’ll post a short review later next week!
@brendanrudd502
@brendanrudd502 12 күн бұрын
Great video. I always assume that if I leave anything outside of cover or within melee threat range, it isn’t going to be there next turn.
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 12 күн бұрын
Thank you! Yes, they do tend to get a bit squashed 😅😅
@Spanky-ui1gi
@Spanky-ui1gi 12 күн бұрын
Nice video and editing. I don't think I've seen a review done like this that gives examples of strat combos and that, very informative well done.
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 12 күн бұрын
Thank you very much!
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 12 күн бұрын
I’ve just come back from playing a game as imperial guard, so watch this space!
@Shardifier
@Shardifier 12 күн бұрын
Toasters made me think of Battlestar Galactica... but I love the stuff you've painted, and this was a nice summary for the Deldar (/aubergine space pirates)
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 12 күн бұрын
Thank you very much!
@PeterChicken-0
@PeterChicken-0 12 күн бұрын
Great stuff, keep it up! Are they THE hardest to play with?
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 12 күн бұрын
It's Feathers McGraw, from video to comment! The hardest I have played with - although I think it's probably between these guys and the Genestealer Cults... I'll have to give them a go in the future and make another video about it...
@Elonasful
@Elonasful 17 күн бұрын
Don't be afraid to call them Drukhari! Let those stuck in the past stay there. ;) Another great video my man, I really love the channel!
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 17 күн бұрын
Thanks so much! Aha I still will call them Drukhari! Next video should be out in the next week or so!
@cambakirel
@cambakirel 17 күн бұрын
Great video 🥳
@andy98114
@andy98114 27 күн бұрын
What about using clear perspex rods to mount your flyers?
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 27 күн бұрын
I'm trying to figure out the best way to get the magnets on the bases - If I did the Perspex, would I use the clear bases or get regular lipped ones?
@Elonasful
@Elonasful 29 күн бұрын
Great video again, really like the style of them and you're a fantastic painter. Makes me want to get myself an airbrush. :D I'd vote Scourges next! Also drukhari drukhari drukhari
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 29 күн бұрын
Thank's so much @Elonasful! I'm still unsure which video to put out next, so any input is valuable!
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 18 күн бұрын
Decided to go with the Incubi next in the end to round out the Combat Patty! Should be out early next week all things being well, scourges should not be far after.
@CrashHeadroom
@CrashHeadroom Ай бұрын
I beg you call them Dark Eldar..... I don't know, nor care who came up with this new name for them in GW but all I can think about is whose line isit anyway whenever I hear it. PLEASE STOP XD.
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel Ай бұрын
Drukhari Drukhari Drukhari Drukhari - I also grew up with Dark Eldar so I’m surprised at how I’ve grown accustomed to calling them that 😅😅
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel 18 күн бұрын
You have been zinged in the next video :P
@ciaranosullivan1454
@ciaranosullivan1454 Ай бұрын
Your forest spray painting has covered many of the trees! You should use more greens!
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel Ай бұрын
But no, we should look after the forests.
@Bodkin_Ye_Pointy
@Bodkin_Ye_Pointy Ай бұрын
Colour schemes and method are purely the purview of the creator and no criticism there. But I got to say that anyone who thinks a unit is table top ready when they have not defined the skin tone from the armour must really hate painting, your comment at 3.27 time stamp. But pushing on from that the job is a gooden.
@PluckeesChannel
@PluckeesChannel Ай бұрын
You’re right - and I love painting personally, but my point was more you’ve got to get 3 colours down for something to count as battle ready. So for someone who does dislike painting, this could be a quick way to get stuff to table. I should have made that point clearer but was aiming for brevity. I’ll do better next time!