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@justin10292000
@justin10292000 2 сағат бұрын
Wow. Alex has just begun, and his nasty, supercilious attitude is very off-putting 😮
@justin10292000
@justin10292000 2 сағат бұрын
atheists put blind faith in the belief that a non-programmed-by-a-Mind, unguided-by-a-Mind accident (the brain according to logically-applied atheism) can be "trusted." I don't have enough blind faith to be an atheist!
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 3 сағат бұрын
The big response to delusional and deeply indoctrinated 5-year-old Micheal and his nonsense. 1. **"Beliefs are important. But you would agree that the truth of your beliefs are also important?"** Beliefs are only as important as the evidence supporting them. Truth isn’t determined by sincerity; it’s determined by facts. Your implication that atheists don’t value truth is laughably ironic when theists consistently defend beliefs rooted in unverifiable claims and circular reasoning. 2. **"The atheist has asked the theist for evidence as to why they believe that: 1. God is real? 2. Why the Christian God? 3. Why is a Messiah needed?"** Yes, because extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Instead of answering these questions with substance, theists provide emotional appeals, cherry-picked scriptures, and assertions that fall apart under scrutiny. If you had convincing answers to these questions, you wouldn’t need to hide behind rhetoric and accusations of mockery. 3. **"The theist is happy to offer reasoning as to why 1-3 are true to him."** "True to him" is irrelevant. Personal feelings don’t count as evidence. What matters is whether your reasoning is universally valid and supported by empirical data, and it never is. Subjective "truth" is a weak excuse for the inability to prove anything objectively. 4. **"Even if God was real; he would not worship Him. At that point, no amount of evidence is going to get through his preconceived ideas about God."** This is nothing but a strawman fallacy. Atheists don’t reject worship out of stubbornness-they reject belief in a god due to a lack of evidence. Furthermore, the notion of worshiping a deity responsible for atrocities as described in your holy book isn’t an issue of stubbornness but moral integrity. Why should anyone worship a being who commands genocide, condones slavery, and threatens eternal torment? 5. **"The repeated asking for evidence is his way of mocking the theist."** Projection much? The repeated failure to provide evidence isn’t mockery; it’s an indictment of the weakness of your arguments. If you feel mocked, it’s because your inability to back up your claims has been laid bare, and rather than address the deficiencies, you attack those asking for evidence. 6. **"He thinks he has won, when in actuality he has lost everything!"** This is an appeal to consequences fallacy. Atheists don’t reject belief out of fear of losing something; they reject belief because there’s no reason to accept it. Claiming that atheists have "lost everything" is baseless and reeks of desperation. 7. **"He is not interested in the 'truth' of 1-3."** Another strawman fallacy. Atheists are deeply interested in truth-that’s why they ask for evidence. Theists, on the other hand, cling to dogma and avoid critical examination of their beliefs. If you’re so confident in your "truth," why is it never convincing outside your echo chamber? 8. **"He has placed himself above God in judging the actions of God."** Judging the actions of your god is entirely rational if you’re asking us to worship him. Any deity worthy of worship should be held to a higher standard than humans. Yet the god you defend repeatedly violates basic principles of morality. Refusing to ignore those contradictions isn’t arrogance; it’s common sense. 9. **"Never really considering the excess baggage that comes with his atheism."** What "baggage"? Atheism is simply the lack of belief in gods. It doesn’t require defending genocides, condoning slavery, or justifying eternal torture-all of which are burdens of your belief system. If you want to talk about "excess baggage," take a look at your own mythology.
@michaelreichwein3970
@michaelreichwein3970 7 сағат бұрын
I hear a lot of Skeptics speaking a lot about a complete lackof evidence from the theist.. ok! So i propose a thought experiment. What slam dunk argument/evidence/empirical data/drunk Irishman/etc would it take to convince you to the reality that God exists?
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 3 сағат бұрын
If you’re serious about a thought experiment, try this: what kind of *actual evidence* could you present for your god that doesn’t rely on personal anecdotes, emotional appeals, or vague claims that fall apart under scrutiny? It’s not about a "drunk Irishman" or arbitrary demands; it’s about holding your claims to the same standard as any other. Show a clear, testable phenomenon that points specifically to your god and not to one of the thousands of others humans have invented. Until then, don’t confuse skepticism with stubbornness-it’s just a refusal to accept baseless assertions.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 2 сағат бұрын
Wtch "BIG WIN for Julius! Honest deconstruction in real time" I gave you. It is exactly explained by the person who has a Master's in Biblical studies. What are you afraid of? Is it that if you still have any working brain cells you would actually see how you have been lied to all your life?
@citizenghosttown
@citizenghosttown Сағат бұрын
It's a fair question. The answer largely depends on what YOU mean by "God" (this being a claim made by theists, after all). And while "I don't know" is a perfectly acceptable answer, the question is at least worth thinking about if you are a skeptic. There's an atheist blogger named Greta Christina who writes well and addresses this in an interesting way. I"ll summarize her answer. Here are 5 things that would convince her that God was real: 1. An unambiguos message from God (noncontradictory and accesible to all) 2. Specific and accurate prophecies about the future. 3. Accurate Science in Religious Texts. 4. Evidence of one single successful religion (that couldn't be accounted for by social or economic or other natural factors). 5. Inexplicably Accurate Information Gained During Near-Death or Other Supposedly Psychic Experiences. To be clear none of these would demonstrate that God was good, or worth worshipping - but its arguably support that God or some supernatural power or being exists.
@michaelreichwein3970
@michaelreichwein3970 11 минут бұрын
@citizenghosttown Thank you! A very honest answer!
@filmeseverin
@filmeseverin 14 сағат бұрын
The fighters not only against the rationality / elementary logic from my simple, clear and undeniable demonstrations, but also against goodness, wisdom, justice... perfection, against God/Jesus, will keep trying to fool the superficial people, but *they will never be able to deceive the serious and honest readers who pay attention to the details.*
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 3 сағат бұрын
Your pompous drivel about “rationality,” “logic,” and “goodness” is as hollow as the nonsense you’re peddling. Claiming “undeniable demonstrations” while providing nothing but baseless, self-aggrandizing bluster doesn’t make you logical-it makes you a fraud. Painting anyone who calls out your garbage as “against goodness” or “against God” is a pathetic dodge, a cheap attempt to shield your fragile ego from scrutiny. Serious readers don’t buy your sanctimonious garbage; they see a delusional blowhard who’s more interested in sounding profound than actually being right. Your "details" are as empty as your claims.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 3 сағат бұрын
Hypocrisy runs deep. You cherry-pick things in the bible that you like and ignore or try to forget parts you don't like. Why did your god commit many genocides? Why did your god command Moses and David to commit genocides? Will you kill your own child when your god asks? Why do you worship this moral monster?
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 16 сағат бұрын
Our filmsenile proved that AI is much much much more powerful than his lozzer gOD. Ai runs circles around his gOD. Thank you for confirmation. The irony is astounding. He claims others lack valid counterarguments while offering none of your own beyond baseless accusations and poorly constructed nonsense. If anyone is "fooling superficial readers," it’s him, with your conspiracy-laden paranoia about AI "manipulation." His arguments are so flimsy that they don’t require counterarguments-they collapse under the weight of their own absurdity.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 16 сағат бұрын
Just so everyone can't be fooled by filmsenile. Oh, so life comes from non-life? Correct! Because that’s literally what the evidence shows. Life, at its most fundamental level, is made of atoms-non-living particles that assemble into molecules, which then organize into cells. Atoms don’t have to be “alive” for life to emerge from them; they just need to follow the laws of chemistry and physics. Think about it: you’re made of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, and a few other elements-all non-living atoms. These combine to form molecules like DNA, proteins, and lipids, which work together in complex systems. This isn’t magic; it’s chemistry. The process is so well-documented that scientists have replicated parts of it in labs, showing how organic molecules can spontaneously form under conditions similar to early Earth. Claiming that life coming from non-life is impossible just shows ignorance of basic science. If you’re comfortable using your phone or trusting medicine-both products of understanding atoms and molecules-then maybe consider applying that same reasoning to life’s origins. Atoms don’t need to be “alive” for life to exist; they just need to follow natural laws. No gods or supernatural explanations required.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 16 сағат бұрын
Just so everyone can't be fooled by filmsenile. You have now met our filmsenile who can't comprehend anything you tell him. He only knows how to copy and paste bullcrap and declare himself a winner. This is absolute garbage wrapped in a thin veneer of pseudo-intellectualism. You're throwing around cherry-picked quotes and trying to paint this as some grand "debunking," but all you're doing is grasping at straws and hoping no one notices how ridiculous your arguments are. 1. **"The serious and honest readers cannot be fooled by such deceivers (no matter their using of AI to manipulate) because the good people are not ignoring the details."** Seriously? What a pompous way to start a sentence. You’re claiming anyone who disagrees with you is either stupid or intentionally deceiving others. The reality is, you’re the one ignoring the details and hiding behind baseless accusations. It's easy to label people as "deceivers" when your own argument is so weak it collapses under scrutiny. 2. **Quoting the Scientific American article "Is Lawrence Krauss a Physicist, or Just a Bad Philosopher?"** You’ve managed to twist a critique of Krauss’s philosophy into some grand indictment of science. Guess what? Every field has its critics and skeptics, but cherry-picking a few lines from an article and calling it "proof" that science is fake is pathetic. Do you honestly think this means anything to anyone with a basic understanding of how science works? Disagreements are part of the process-not some smoking gun that disproves everything. 3. **"He [Lawrence Krauss] is presenting untested speculative theories...":** Welcome to the world of theoretical physics, where ideas are speculated and tested over time. So, what’s your alternative? Sit back and claim that nothing can be known until it’s all absolutely certain? Great plan. We’ll just put all scientific progress on hold until you decide it's "untested" enough for your comfort. You’re not making a critique-you’re showing your ignorance. 4. **The "Horgan vs. Krauss" dialogue:** You’ve somehow taken a back-and-forth between two intellectuals and turned it into some kind of "Gotcha!" moment. Newsflash: scientists disagree all the time. That doesn’t invalidate the entire field. It just means they’re discussing ideas. But I guess you’d rather point to this as proof that everything is wrong because you can’t comprehend the nuance of their discussion. Seriously, get a grip. 5. **"How indeed can you test what existed before the universe existed?":** You nailed it! It’s a question that doesn’t have a simple answer, but that doesn’t mean it’s an excuse to slap a "God did it" sticker on it and call it a day. The fact that we don’t have a definitive answer yet is a testament to how hard scientists are working to explore the unknown, not an admission of defeat. Meanwhile, your solution is just to pretend we have all the answers because your ancient book says so. Pathetic. 6. **The Dawkins jab:** This is the lowest of low blows. You try to use Dawkins as a cudgel to "discredit" Krauss, as if their disagreements somehow mean anything about the actual substance of their work. This is pure desperation. Disagreeing over details doesn’t mean science has failed. If you think it does, then you need to pull your head out of the sand. In the end, you’re throwing around a bunch of out-of-context, irrelevant, and downright stupid quotes to defend an indefensible position. Your argument amounts to nothing more than throwing shade at people who are actually trying to expand our understanding of the universe, while you cling to a fairy tale that has no evidence to back it up. Your "refutation" is a joke.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 16 сағат бұрын
Just so everyone can't be fooled by filmsenile. So once again. Here are the fallacies filmsenile committed. HE IS THE MOST DISHONEST CHRISTIAN AND GOD WILL PUNISH HIM. The argument presented contains multiple logical fallacies that undermine its credibility. Here are the main fallacies at play: 1. Appeal to Ignorance (Argument from Incredulity): The claim that those who disagree with the speaker must be ignoring "clear and undeniable demonstrations" is a form of this fallacy. The speaker assumes that because their arguments seem convincing to them, they must also be convincing to everyone else, and dismisses the possibility of valid skepticism. This also ties into shifting the burden of proof , where the burden of evidence is placed on the skeptics rather than the one making the extraordinary claim. 2. False Dilemma (Either/Or Fallacy): The speaker presents a binary choice between loving God and fighting against perfection . This simplistically divides the world into two camps without considering the complexity of human belief and morality. It ignores the possibility that people can live ethical, compassionate lives without adhering to a specific religious belief. 3. Ad Hominem (Abusive): There’s a blatant personal attack on those who don't agree with the speaker's views, calling them "ignorant" or "willfully ignorant." This distracts from the real issue-whether or not the argument itself holds merit-and instead focuses on disparaging the individuals who disagree. 4. Appeal to Emotion (Pathos): The speaker uses charged language to create fear and guilt ("escape responsibility," "suffering caused by fallen angels"), in an attempt to sway the audience emotionally rather than with logical evidence. This emotional manipulation is designed to distract from rational discourse and is a common tactic in religious apologetics. 5. Circular Reasoning (Begging the Question): The argument assumes that the Christian worldview is correct (i.e., that belief in Jesus leads to salvation and rejection results in eternal judgment) without offering any evidence to justify this claim. The entire argument relies on a presupposition of the truth of Christianity without supporting it logically. 6. False Authority: The speaker invokes 2 Corinthians 5:10 and other religious texts as if they are ultimate authorities without addressing the numerous interpretations of such texts or the fact that different belief systems reject them as authoritative. Simply quoting a religious text doesn’t make it true or objective evidence of the claims made. 7. Straw Man Fallacy: The speaker distorts the position of non-believers by claiming that they are rejecting belief in God to "escape judgment," when in reality, many atheists and skeptics reject religious claims for reasons grounded in critical thinking and evidence , not a fear of consequences. 8. Bandwagon Fallacy: The speaker suggests that because certain views are widespread (such as belief in a deity or in the need for salvation), they must be true. This fallacy relies on popularity or consensus as proof of correctness, when in fact, popularity is not a reliable indicator of truth. 9. Appeal to Consequences: There’s an underlying appeal to the negative consequences of rejecting the religious framework, implying that people only choose atheism to escape the moral consequences of their actions. The reasoning is that people would only reject a belief in God because they want to avoid judgment, which is an argument based on the fear of consequences rather than evidence or logical reasoning. These fallacies collectively undermine the argument and make it more about emotional manipulation and authoritarian assertions than about sound reasoning or evidence
@filmeseverin
@filmeseverin 17 сағат бұрын
Just as billions of cells are needed for us to live this earthly life, in a similar way are required billions of galaxies for the intelligent life to be hosted intentionally to have 100% freedom, like humans on Earth. *Think how wonderful the Creator is, the opposite of a dictator, to create this reality in this way, with 100% freedom. He has told us to live in freedom but to not use freedom as a cover-up for evil.* Unfortunately, Satan, the fallen angels, respectively their tools in this world - the evil=stupid humans - have used (are using) the freedom offered by God to do evil intentionally. However, all will be judged 100% correctly by God/Jesus and all will receive what they deserve. Evolution is not an argument against God's existence because the entire process until humans time proves the existence of God, *the results of a process proving the intelligence involved into that process* and because *from no intelligence involved, no intelligence comes.* Furthermore, the conventional biological evolution is hiding the facts about Satan and the other fallen angels who, according to the "Parable of the weeds", have altered this world, the DNA... (making the carnivores, the parasites, the viruses, bad bacteria etc....) to sustain the useless suffering while, initially, all insects, animals etc. were feeding only with plants (plants products, such as fruits, nectar, seeds etc.). The fallen angels, being sadistic, have altered the DNA of most living things (including us) to do as default both: reproduce uncontrollably (as much as they can) and fight (kill) each other. Unfortunately, they love to see living things suffering, especially human beings suffering. Because any child is a chance for a soul to escape hell, they want to destroy us since our physical body conception (all the time in any way possible). That is why they make us suffer, as much as possible, by using our stupidity and the stupidity of the other people around us.
@filmeseverin
@filmeseverin 17 сағат бұрын
The entire evolution of the Universe has nothing against the truth about/from God/Jesus (many parts from the Bible being told metaphorically, not literally, at those times people not having enough knowledge scientifically, but now we can fully understand the metaphors used). For example, the dust from which Adam and Eve have been created is representing their material bodies (parts of this material world), God giving spirit to those material bodies. Eve made from Adam's rib is referring to the X chromosome from the XY. Therefore, Adam and Eve are representing the first hominids species chosen by God to place *the immortal spirits* (cast out from Heaven) and that is why Abel killed by Cain are representing the Neanderthals (Abel) extinct by the Homo Sapiens (Cain). People from many thousands of years ago, when Genesis was written, could not understand exactly (scientifically) how God has created everything, including their ancestors. To not be deceived anymore, the serious and honest people can sort the comments and read as many of my posts (both answers and threads) as they can because I have proved not only God's existence, God's eternity and God's perfection, but also all the errors of the atheists and generally of all the unbelievers of the truth, who post on such videos (they never had valid counter arguments, their manipulation - including that done with AI - fooling only the superficial readers).
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 16 сағат бұрын
Oh, where to even begin with this absurd cosmic fan fiction? Your narrative is so packed with contradictions, bad science, and theological nonsense that it could be mistaken for satire-if only it were that self-aware. Let’s dissect this rambling mess piece by piece. First, billions of galaxies are necessary for human freedom? What kind of mental gymnastics led you to that conclusion? Freedom isn’t measured in light-years, and sprinkling stars across the void doesn’t explain human agency-it’s just a desperate attempt to make the universe’s vast indifference seem intentional. If your god needs cosmic window dressing to make a point, that’s a pretty pathetic deity. Then, we get to your claim that "fallen angels" are behind DNA alterations. Seriously? Do you even understand how DNA works? Evolutionary processes like mutation and natural selection have decades of empirical evidence behind them. But no, you throw all that out to blame your mythical bogeyman for carnivores and parasites, as if biology were some satanic prank. If Satan’s rewriting DNA, he must be a molecular biologist with tenure in your imaginary universe. Your take on evolution is even worse. You grudgingly accept it but then slap a "god did it" sticker on top. That’s not an argument-that’s intellectual laziness. And bringing Satan into the mix? That’s just embarrassing. Viruses and predators didn’t need supernatural tinkering to evolve; they’re products of the same natural processes that shaped all life. If your god allows Satan to "alter DNA" unchecked, maybe he’s not as omnipotent as you think-or maybe he’s just incompetent. Finally, your whole spiel about freedom and suffering is laughable. Your god supposedly gave us "100% freedom" but then lets us be manipulated by "fallen angels"? That’s not freedom; that’s divine negligence. And blaming humanity’s suffering on some celestial sadists is just a pathetic cop-out. Maybe instead of spinning fairy tales about DNA-altering demons, you should confront the fact that your theology is riddled with holes. Your rant reads like the fever dream of someone who’s too lazy to understand science and too dogmatic to admit it. Try harder next time-or better yet, don’t.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 16 сағат бұрын
We know only you upvote yourself. Nobody believes you anyway.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 16 сағат бұрын
@@filmeseverin "The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you" - Neil deGrasse Tyson It is only arrogant and ignorant humans who thinks that the universe cares about them. The universe cares about the human species as much as it cared for dinosaurs.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 16 сағат бұрын
@@filmeseverin This is beyond delusional-a Frankenstein’s mess of bad theology and pseudo-science. Claiming Adam and Eve were "hominids" with "immortal spirits" is pure fiction, not fact. Your rib-to-X chromosome nonsense? Laughable. Neanderthals weren’t "Abel" murdered by Homo sapiens "Cain"; they interbred, and we have the DNA to prove it. You haven’t "proved" anything except your own misunderstanding of science and mythology. Atheists don’t need counterarguments against this level of nonsense-your babble collapses under its own weight. Stop twisting ancient fairy tales into pseudo-scientific drivel and calling it truth. You’re not fooling anyone but yourself.
@theblessedone14
@theblessedone14 18 сағат бұрын
Praise the Lord 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿
@Narnian77
@Narnian77 23 сағат бұрын
This guy is exceptional at dancing around this subject
@Narnian77
@Narnian77 Күн бұрын
This should have been a debate, (and not with is moderator) not as useless Q & A.
@Narnian77
@Narnian77 Күн бұрын
Moderator says he’s an “Eniagram 9” Now that’s a red flag. Does he realize the origins of the Eniagram are evil???
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 Күн бұрын
Neil Degrasse Tyson put it very well: What is God? " God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that is getting smaller and smaller and smaller as time moves on".
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 Күн бұрын
Just so everyone can't be fooled by filmsenile and his delusional double Michael. So once again. Here are the fallacies filmsenile and Michael committed. THEY ARE THE MOST DISHONEST CHRISTIANS AND GOD WILL PUNISH THEM. The argument presented contains multiple logical fallacies that undermine its credibility. Here are the main fallacies at play: 1. Appeal to Ignorance (Argument from Incredulity): The claim that those who disagree with the speaker must be ignoring "clear and undeniable demonstrations" is a form of this fallacy. The speaker assumes that because their arguments seem convincing to them, they must also be convincing to everyone else, and dismisses the possibility of valid skepticism. This also ties into shifting the burden of proof , where the burden of evidence is placed on the skeptics rather than the one making the extraordinary claim. 2. False Dilemma (Either/Or Fallacy): The speaker presents a binary choice between loving God and fighting against perfection . This simplistically divides the world into two camps without considering the complexity of human belief and morality. It ignores the possibility that people can live ethical, compassionate lives without adhering to a specific religious belief. 3. Ad Hominem (Abusive): There’s a blatant personal attack on those who don't agree with the speaker's views, calling them "ignorant" or "willfully ignorant." This distracts from the real issue-whether or not the argument itself holds merit-and instead focuses on disparaging the individuals who disagree. 4. Appeal to Emotion (Pathos): The speaker uses charged language to create fear and guilt ("escape responsibility," "suffering caused by fallen angels"), in an attempt to sway the audience emotionally rather than with logical evidence. This emotional manipulation is designed to distract from rational discourse and is a common tactic in religious apologetics. 5. Circular Reasoning (Begging the Question): The argument assumes that the Christian worldview is correct (i.e., that belief in Jesus leads to salvation and rejection results in eternal judgment) without offering any evidence to justify this claim. The entire argument relies on a presupposition of the truth of Christianity without supporting it logically. 6. False Authority: The speaker invokes 2 Corinthians 5:10 and other religious texts as if they are ultimate authorities without addressing the numerous interpretations of such texts or the fact that different belief systems reject them as authoritative. Simply quoting a religious text doesn’t make it true or objective evidence of the claims made. 7. Straw Man Fallacy: The speaker distorts the position of non-believers by claiming that they are rejecting belief in God to "escape judgment," when in reality, many atheists and skeptics reject religious claims for reasons grounded in critical thinking and evidence , not a fear of consequences. 8. Bandwagon Fallacy: The speaker suggests that because certain views are widespread (such as belief in a deity or in the need for salvation), they must be true. This fallacy relies on popularity or consensus as proof of correctness, when in fact, popularity is not a reliable indicator of truth. 9. Appeal to Consequences: There’s an underlying appeal to the negative consequences of rejecting the religious framework, implying that people only choose atheism to escape the moral consequences of their actions. The reasoning is that people would only reject a belief in God because they want to avoid judgment, which is an argument based on the fear of consequences rather than evidence or logical reasoning. These fallacies collectively undermine the argument and make it more about emotional manipulation and authoritarian assertions than about sound reasoning or evidence
@filmeseverin
@filmeseverin Күн бұрын
I have proved God's existence by using only elementary logic. In brief, the Creator of this world (God/Divinity) exists because this reality, with us into it, is not the result of nothing, or the result of no intelligence, because *from no intelligence involved, no intelligence comes.* Also, the perfection of mathematics is enough proof for God's perfection. Anyone can sort the comments and read for real at least my simple demonstrations (posted over the last week). By the way, many people seem to not realize that for God, the Creator of everything, including time, not being bounded by what He has created, being _"the beginning and the end,"_ *this world has already ended* (all free human choices / deeds being recorded for what all will perceive as the Last Judgment). That is why God knows the using of our free will. That is why the Bible has exact prophecies, like the followings listed below: - The future will be like in the days of Sodom. Luke 17, 28 30 - People will deny that GOD has created the universe. 2 Peter 3:3-9 - The message of the Gospel will reach all the nations. Matthew 24,14 - The future will become frightening. Luke 21, 26 (just few examples: the global warming terrific effects, the third world war final preparations, Corona virus etc.) - Blasphemy and wicked behavior will be commonplace. 2 Timothy 3,1-9 - There will be money hungry preachers who deceive Christians and lead them away from the truth. 2 Peter 2,1-3 - Scoffers will mock also the Second Coming by claiming these signs have always been around. 2 Peter 3, 3 4
@filmeseverin
@filmeseverin Күн бұрын
The question is: Why so many were/are opposing to the main advice from Jesus Christ: to strive always for goodness, wisdom, justice... for perfection? *_"Be perfect therefore, as your Heavenly Father is perfect"_* Matthew 5, 48 The answer is: Because just as it is easier to destroy something useful than to make/build something useful, in the same way it is easier to be evil=stupid than to be good=wise. Here is not Heaven. This short earthly life is a school and exam for our immortal souls (us), for those who did not listen by the Creator to understand the value of "light" without experiencing the "darkness". This reality has been created intentionally so that freedom to be 100% offered, God rewarding accordingly the free choices/deeds *_"For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive his due for the things done in the body, whether good or bad."_* 2 Corinthians 5, 10 The problem is with those who have used (are using) their freedom for doing evil on purpose. That is why it is not easy to fight continuously with what Satan has done to this world (carnivores, parasites, viruses, bad bacteria... the so called _"weeds"_ in Matthew 13:24-43) and to ourselves ... because *until our physical death we fight with the works of the fallen angels and of their tools, the evil=stupid people, the consequences of evilness = stupidity.*
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 Күн бұрын
Your entire post is nothing but a desperate attempt to shield your baseless beliefs behind a wall of bad logic, empty rhetoric, and meaningless quotes from a book you’ve already decided is beyond question. Let’s rip apart this nonsense line by line: 1. **"From no intelligence, no intelligence comes":** This isn’t an argument; it’s a lazy, unsupported assertion. If you think intelligence must come from intelligence, then by your own logic, your god must have a creator. Who made him? And if your god doesn’t need a creator, then why can’t the universe exist without one? You’re playing a double standard because your fragile worldview can’t handle actual scrutiny. 2. **"The perfection of mathematics proves God's perfection":** Are you serious? Mathematics is a human invention used to describe patterns we observe in the universe. It doesn’t prove anything about a god, much less your specific god. If anything, the randomness and brutality of nature-extinction, disease, disasters-point to a universe that couldn’t care less about “perfection.” 3. **"Only Jesus Christ said...":** Wow, quoting your holy book to prove your holy book. That’s not just circular reasoning; it’s intellectual cowardice. Every religion has its "unique" claims, and none of them are proof of anything. The Quran, the Bhagavad Gita, and countless other texts make grand statements too, but I bet you dismiss those out of hand. Why? Because you’ve already chosen to believe your version of the truth without a shred of evidence. 4. **"God is beyond time, and this world has already ended":** What a convenient little escape hatch. When your god’s behavior doesn’t make sense, you just hand-wave it away by claiming he exists "beyond time" or operates in a way humans can't understand. That’s not an argument; it’s a cop-out. If you can’t even explain your god’s actions coherently, why should anyone take your claims seriously? 5. **"The Bible has exact prophecies":** Oh, please. The Bible’s "prophecies" are vague, self-fulfilling, or flat-out wrong. Let’s look at your examples: - "Like the days of Sodom"-every generation thinks society is going downhill. That’s not prophecy; that’s human pessimism. - "People will deny that God created the universe"-wow, predicting skepticism in a book meant to stop skepticism. Groundbreaking. - "The Gospel will reach all nations"-this isn’t prophecy; it’s the direct result of colonialism, genocide, and forced conversion. - Global warming, war, and pandemics? These are human-made problems and natural occurrences, not divine signs. Quit blaming god for our mess. 6. **"Blasphemy, wicked behavior, and money-hungry preachers":** Newsflash: These things have always existed and always will. They’re not predictions; they’re just observations about human nature. And if you want to talk about "money-hungry preachers," maybe start with the televangelists who exploit gullible believers for millions while laughing all the way to the bank. 7. **"Scoffers will mock the Second Coming":** Yeah, because it’s a ridiculous claim with zero evidence. People mock it for the same reason they mock flat-earthers and doomsday cults-it’s absurd. Your so-called prophecy amounts to saying, "People will disagree with me," which is hardly impressive. ### The real problem: Your entire argument is a pathetic mix of fearmongering, intellectual dishonesty, and blind faith. You dismiss critical thinking as "deception" because deep down, you know your beliefs can’t survive actual scrutiny. Instead of engaging with evidence or reason, you double down on tired clichés and vague threats about the "Last Judgment." It’s laughable. Religion like this isn’t just wrong-it’s harmful. It promotes ignorance, stifles progress, and divides people with its "us vs. them" mentality. Your inability to see the flaws in your argument is a testament to how deeply indoctrinated you are. You’ve traded curiosity and reason for dogma and submission, and that’s not just sad-it’s dangerous.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 Күн бұрын
@@filmeseverin Your rambling sermon is little more than sanctimonious nonsense dressed up as pseudo-philosophy. You want to lecture on perfection, but your argument reeks of intellectual laziness and self-righteous arrogance. Let’s break this down: 1. **"Be perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect"** : You parrot this verse like it’s some profound moral challenge, but perfection is a ridiculous standard for fallible beings, and it conveniently sets up your deity as judge, jury, and executioner. It’s nothing more than a divine guilt trap. 2. **Earth as a "school and exam"** : What a sadistic setup. Your god allegedly creates a rigged world filled with suffering, disease, and inequality, then blames the victims for not passing his twisted "test." That’s not justice-it’s cosmic tyranny. 3. **Satan’s works and "weeds"** : Your theology is nothing but fearmongering fairy tales. Carnivores, viruses, and bacteria are essential parts of ecosystems, not the handiwork of some cartoon villain with horns. Pretending otherwise shows how disconnected you are from reality. 4. **Judgment Day threats** : Using scare tactics like eternal judgment is the hallmark of cultish manipulation. If your god requires fear and submission to keep followers in line, he’s more akin to a dictator than a loving creator. 5. **Blaming evil on "stupid people"** : Your disdain for others reveals more about you than it does about the world. Labeling those who disagree as tools of Satan or inherently stupid doesn’t make you righteous; it makes you petty and delusional. In the end, your rant is little more than a self-serving diatribe to prop up your fragile worldview. If this is the best your religion has to offer, it’s no wonder people are turning away from it in droves.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 Күн бұрын
YOU ARE THE DISHONEST CHRISTIAN AND GOD WILL PUNISH YOU. How many horrible things you have done in your life that you need that much forgiveness. You believe in a killer god. During the Noah's Ark episode, not only did God kill all the human beings, but all the animals that lived on land too, except for the two on the Ark. So, why was that? What did God have for the animals? They had no original sin, considering that they had not eaten from the tree of Good/Evil when Yahweh told them not to, they couldn't be punished for not believing in Yahweh, simply because animals don't seem to need religion in their lives. (Have you ever heard of a penguin praying? No, the idea seems silly.) So, why did your God decide that he needed to murder all the animals as well as the humans? Why would you believe in this god?
@SokratisFreeman
@SokratisFreeman 2 сағат бұрын
​there is Auswitch and so there can't be any god 😂😂😂 So FU jesus FU allah FU god and FU 2 🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑🐑
@michaelreichwein3970
@michaelreichwein3970 Күн бұрын
As you get older. You start to realize just how important your time is. That being said. You have to wonder why atheist even come onto these threads arguing against something that they claim doesn't exist. The theist believes that he has a purpose on these threads defending whatever particular religion he is following. Yet, i have not figured out why the atheist is wasting his time. I heard someone say something about evil Christians and the evil that they spread. War around the world caused 234,000 deaths. Do you know how many people died from starvation in 2024? 5,400,000. Maybe before atheist complain about the so-called evil created by Christianity. Maybe they could start by raising awareness to help curve the mass starvation that is killing millions every year! 🤔..
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 Күн бұрын
As you get older you realize you are still in this 5 year-old indoctrinated mental state and still believe in fairy tale stories. You never grow up.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 Күн бұрын
Christianity is fake. It stole pretty much everything from other earlier religions and the same way Islam did with small modifications. The is no evidence of a global flood, there is no evidence that jesus as the son of god or Moses ever existed, and the resurrection was stolen from Julius Caesar's resurrection. No resurrection. Snakes and donkeys do not talk. Genesis is full of contradictions. Earth is not 6000 years old. ALL THOSE ARE LIES. People now know and leaving the religion for what it is CULT.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 Күн бұрын
The sheer arrogance of your argument is only matched by its ignorance. You accuse atheists of wasting time, yet you waste yours defending a religion that has actively contributed to the very suffering you pretend to care about. Let’s be clear: atheists engage in these discussions to challenge the absurd, harmful, and self-righteous nonsense that people like you spread. If you're too fragile to handle that, maybe you should stop broadcasting your unfounded beliefs in public spaces. Your starvation distraction is not only idiotic but also grotesquely disingenuous. How dare you invoke global hunger as if it somehow absolves Christianity of its historical atrocities and ongoing harm? Christianity’s wealth-hoarding institutions, like the Vatican, sit on billions of dollars while millions starve. Where’s that divine charity you’re so proud of? And let’s not even start on how religious dogma has perpetuated poverty, stifled birth control, and kept entire nations mired in suffering under the guise of “God’s will.” And spare me the laughable suggestion that atheists don’t care about global suffering. Secular organizations are leading the charge in addressing starvation, inequality, and education, often stepping in where religious groups have failed-or outright made things worse. Meanwhile, your religion has spent centuries exploiting the poor and waging wars, all while preaching about a loving god. You want to know why atheists are here? To call out hypocrites like you, who use irrelevant deflections and moral posturing to defend a system that has caused immeasurable harm. If you actually cared about starvation or human suffering, you’d spend less time on your keyboard and more time demanding accountability from your church. But I guess it’s easier to wag your finger at atheists than confront the failure of your faith to live up to its own supposed principles.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 Күн бұрын
This is your Christianity at best. Kenyan police have exhumed dozens of bodies from shallows graves in the east of the country amid an investigation into followers of a Christian cult who believed they would go to heaven if they starved themselves to death. Information provided by officials put the number of bodies exhumed so far as high as 47, according to media reports on Sunday. All genocides and crusades in the name of your god. Hitler was supported by the church. Church was celebrating his bday every year. Russian Church supports Putin. There is your Christianity at its best. Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.
@citizenghosttown
@citizenghosttown Күн бұрын
"You have to wonder why atheist even come onto these threads arguing against something that they claim doesn't exist" It's pretty obvious actually. Never mind, for the moment, that you still don't seem to understand what atheists believe about reality,.....but why does anyone waste time on social media comment boards? Of course some simply enjoy the give-and-take. Many nonbelievers like to expose bad arguments because they believe the world is a better place when people follow reason and evidence rather than logical fallacies and religious doctrine.
@A12dc3
@A12dc3 Күн бұрын
Imagine the level of mental illness in a society where there is debate about the existence or not of a mythological entity. Debating the existence of God is like debating the existence of Zeus, Poseidon or Superman.
@filmeseverin
@filmeseverin Күн бұрын
I have proved God's existence by using only elementary logic. In brief, the Creator of this world (God/Divinity) exists because this reality, with us into it, is not the result of nothing, or the result of no intelligence, because *from no intelligence involved, no intelligence comes.* Also, the perfection of mathematics is enough proof for God's perfection. You can sort the comments and read for real at least my simple demonstrations (posted over the last week). By the way, many people seem to not realize that for God, the Creator of everything, including time, not being bounded by what He has created, being _"the beginning and the end,"_ *this world has already ended* (all free human choices / deeds being recorded for what all will perceive as the Last Judgment). That is why God knows the using of our free will. That is why the Bible has exact prophecies, like the followings listed below: - The future will be like in the days of Sodom. Luke 17, 28 30 - People will deny that GOD has created the universe. 2 Peter 3:3-9 - The message of the Gospel will reach all the nations. Matthew 24,14 - The future will become frightening. Luke 21, 26 (just few examples: the global warming terrific effects, the third world war final preparations, Corona virus etc.) - Blasphemy and wicked behavior will be commonplace. 2 Timothy 3,1-9 - There will be money hungry preachers who deceive Christians and lead them away from the truth. 2 Peter 2,1-3 - Scoffers will mock also the Second Coming by claiming these signs have always been around. 2 Peter 3, 3 4 Humans, with very few exceptions, have lost their merit of direct communication with God because *each sin moves us away from God, from perfection.* That is why we have to learn our lesson here, to prove that we have understood that freedom must always be used only for good, never for evil. Not all who ever lived on Earth had knowledge about the truth from those who deserved to have it revealed by Divinity and *especially from Jesus Christ, the human form of Divinity.* It has always been easy for any human to know what the useless suffering is and to never produce it (no need for the Creator to tell us this). That is why *He expects us to strive to never do evil, especially to never do evil intentionally, to never cause useless suffering, any damage, to others and to ourselves.* Divinity keeps the 100% freedom here for us, the free will of any human even in our prayers, as Jesus has said: _"Therefore, I say to you, all things for which you pray and ask, _*_believe that you have received them,_*_ and they will be granted to you."_ Mark 11:24
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 Күн бұрын
@@filmeseverin Your word salad of pseudo-logic and cherry-picked scripture is as hollow as your understanding of both philosophy and science. Claiming you've "proved" god's existence through "elementary logic" is laughable at best and downright delusional at worst. Let’s dissect your nonsense piece by piece. First, your tired argument about "no intelligence from no intelligence" is a textbook argument from ignorance. Science has extensively studied and continues to explore natural processes, such as abiogenesis and evolution, that explain complexity arising without invoking your imaginary deity. Just because you can’t grasp these concepts doesn’t mean they’re false-it means you lack the intellectual capacity or willingness to understand them. Second, the "perfection of mathematics" as proof for god’s perfection is an absurd non-sequitur. Mathematics is a human construct used to describe the universe, not evidence of divine perfection. If your god is so "perfect," why is the natural world riddled with inefficiencies, suffering, and chaos? Why do parasitic organisms exist? Why does a "loving creator" allow for congenital diseases, natural disasters, and a universe that’s 99.99999% hostile to life? Your Bible prophecies? Don’t even start. These vague, self-fulfilling statements apply to virtually any period in human history. War, famine, disease, blasphemy, and greed are not "signs of the end times"; they’re constants of human existence. It’s astounding that you think generic predictions like “the future will become frightening” hold any evidentiary weight. The same logic could "prove" the existence of any doomsday scenario from any mythology. As for your moral high ground about "using freedom for good," let’s talk about the atrocities committed in the name of your god throughout history. The Crusades, the Inquisition, witch hunts, forced conversions, and institutionalized bigotry-all carried out by people "striving for good," according to their understanding of your god’s will. Spare us your sanctimonious lectures about morality when religion has a blood-soaked ledger of evil deeds. Finally, your incessant parroting of scripture only proves one thing: your inability to think critically or independently. Quoting Mark 11:24 about prayers being answered only underscores how utterly detached from reality you are. Billions of prayers go unanswered daily-prayers from starving children, abused individuals, and dying patients. Either your god is cruel, indifferent, or nonexistent. Pick one. In short, your arguments are stale, your reasoning is circular, and your reliance on ancient texts is pathetic. If you want to prove your god exists, bring evidence that doesn’t involve rehashed fallacies, vague prophecies, or appeals to authority. Until then, spare the world your pompous drivel.
@esraa-f9n
@esraa-f9n Күн бұрын
Im just girl have 14 years old , But lm really interested with psychology, So that lm studying it on youtube coz we dont take at school . The lecture was great . Im happy that something like that is free !!
@MRSomethin1
@MRSomethin1 2 күн бұрын
I have studied the question of the existence of God for over thirty years as a NASA scientist and my research team have concluded that the great pumpkin is the only God
@donthesitatebegin9283
@donthesitatebegin9283 2 күн бұрын
Nonsense. Odin created the Universe and has promised me a place in Valhalla.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 2 күн бұрын
I love pumpkin god, especially during Halloween.
@MRSomethin1
@MRSomethin1 Күн бұрын
@@LGpi314 may you find peace and joy in the great pumpkin patch with unlimited candy (and savouries on the side)
@filmeseverin
@filmeseverin Күн бұрын
_"In the last times there will be people who laugh about God, following their own evil desires, which are against God."_ By the way, those who sort the comments and read for real at least my simple demonstrations (posted over the last week) realise all the lies, errors and manipulation from the fighters against the truth.
@MRSomethin1
@MRSomethin1 Күн бұрын
@@filmeseverin The Great Pumpkin wishes you peace and if required gay love
@filmeseverin
@filmeseverin 2 күн бұрын
Atheists cannot answer seriously to the *Are you and this world the result of no intelligence?* question, otherwise, they would have to admit the existence of God, because *from no intelligence involved no intelligence comes.* That is why, for example, George Enescu has said: "In my humble opinion, you have to be really naive to seriously declare that God does not exist." To not be deceived anymore, the serious and honest people can sort the comments and read as many of my posts (both answers and threads) as they can because *I have proved not only God's existence, God's eternity and God's perfection, but also all the errors of the atheists and generally of all the unbelievers of the truth, who post on such videos (they never had valid counter arguments, their manipulation - including that done with AI - fooling only the superficial readers).*
@filmeseverin
@filmeseverin 2 күн бұрын
Those who choose to not read my demonstrations, at least, should keep in mind that we are here temporarily to prove to the Creator (God / Divinity) that we have understood that freedom must be used always only for good, never for evil, to not follow the fallen angels anymore. The goal is for the saint ones to become more saint and for the lost ones to improve themselves to become forgivable, to escape from (avoid) hell. All those who have truly loved goodness, wisdom, justice... perfection until the end of their earthly life, they actually loved (love) God/Jesus and it will be much more easier for them at the Judgment because they have sinned the least.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 2 күн бұрын
This is just a delusional mix of ignorance, arrogance, and bad philosophy wrapped in a self-congratulatory bow. Let’s dismantle it piece by piece: 1. **"Are you and this world the result of no intelligence?"** : Yes, intelligence can emerge from non-intelligence-just like complex systems, like galaxies, stars, and planets, arise naturally from basic physical laws. Intelligence is a product of evolved biological systems, not some magic sky wizard. Atoms aren’t intelligent, yet they form the neurons that allow you to think, though clearly not very critically. 2. **George Enescu’s opinion** : Quoting someone’s opinion-no matter how famous they are-does nothing to prove your case. Opinions aren’t evidence, and appealing to authority doesn’t make your point valid. Enescu was a composer, not a scientist or philosopher. 3. **"I have proved God’s existence, eternity, and perfection"** : This level of narcissism would be impressive if it weren’t so laughable. You’ve proven nothing but your inability to engage with logic. If your so-called "proofs" were compelling, they wouldn’t be confined to comment threads but published in peer-reviewed journals, winning Nobel Prizes, and changing the world. 4. **"Errors of atheists"** : Claiming that atheists have no valid counterarguments while waving off decades of philosophical and scientific literature is textbook delusion. The fact that you dismiss AI or counterpoints as "manipulation" shows your intellectual dishonesty. 5. **Superficial readers** : Projection much? The only thing fooling anyone here is your pretentious verbosity trying to cover up the fact that your arguments are regurgitated drivel devoid of substance. Your arrogance and lack of self-awareness are almost as infinite as the god you imagine. Come back when you’ve actually read something beyond your own comments.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 2 күн бұрын
@@filmeseverin This is just sanctimonious drivel masquerading as wisdom, and it reeks of self-righteous arrogance. Let’s break it down: 1. **"Prove to the Creator we’ve understood freedom"** : Prove to *whom*? Your supposed omniscient god would already know the outcome, making this “test” nothing more than a sadistic charade. Why would an all-powerful being need proof of anything? 2. **"Freedom must be used for good, not evil"** : If this were the point of existence, maybe your god shouldn’t have created “fallen angels” in the first place. You can’t claim to be omniscient and then act shocked when your creations fail your absurd expectations. 3. **"The goal is to become forgivable"** : How convenient that the burden of “forgiveness” is on us while this god sets impossible standards, creates evil, and demands worship under threat of eternal torture. That’s not justice; that’s tyranny. 4. **"Those who loved goodness, wisdom, justice loved God"** : No, loving goodness, wisdom, and justice doesn’t mean loving your deity. People can value those things without bending the knee to a cosmic dictator. 5. **"Much easier at Judgment"** : So even in your framework, it’s all about groveling to an insecure deity for leniency. What a pathetic notion of morality-fear-driven compliance isn’t virtue; it’s cowardice. Stop pretending that this moralizing nonsense is profound. It’s just recycled fearmongering designed to manipulate people into submission.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 2 күн бұрын
@@filmeseverin Same bullcrap on a different day. YOU ARE THE DISHONEST CHRISTIAN AND GOD WILL PUNISH YOU.
Күн бұрын
Here are the facts: You have NOT proved the existence of god, although it would be entertaining to me to watch you try. You have not proved that intelligence is not emergent. You have found no errors of atheists. Just out of curiosity based on the writing style of your comment, what is your educational background?
@cerealbowl7038
@cerealbowl7038 3 күн бұрын
I'm an agnostic, but Dr. Craig 100% won this debate.
@El_Bruno7510
@El_Bruno7510 3 күн бұрын
100% eh? You need to learn a little more critical thinking and then you will spot the obvious flaws in Low Bar Bill's arguments.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 3 күн бұрын
With what? WLC is full of fallacies and bullcrap.
@LmGpii
@LmGpii 3 күн бұрын
Can you show your logic? Please
@citizenghosttown
@citizenghosttown 3 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing your opinion. You found Craig's arguments persuasive?
@filmeseverin
@filmeseverin 2 күн бұрын
@cerealbowl7038 Those who sort the comments and read for real at least my simple demonstrations (posted over the last week) realise all the lies, errors and manipulation from the fighters against the truth. Just an example: Armageddon will come, unfortunately, as a result of the free will used for evil intentionally by too many. Most people seem to not realize that *this world has already ended for God* because He is outside of (not bounded by) time, which was created by Him (all free human choices / deeds being recorded for what all will perceive as the Last Judgment). That is why God knows the using of our free will.
@Petergrand371
@Petergrand371 3 күн бұрын
They wouldn't be the same as you can se the world and country's with out God how they function
@El_Bruno7510
@El_Bruno7510 3 күн бұрын
Yep. Godless nations function the best.
@LmGpii
@LmGpii 3 күн бұрын
Is English your primary language? It makes no sense what you wrote.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 3 күн бұрын
I don't know if it is sarcasm, satire, or word salad.
@filmeseverin
@filmeseverin 2 күн бұрын
​@@El_Bruno7510 There is no "Godless nation" but only countries ruled by godless people and such countries have the highest rates of suicide, drugs addiction, pedophilia and other evil deeds, too many from there being/becoming tools of *_"Satan, the one who deceives the whole world"_* Rev. 12, 9 Many seem to not know that not the labels that people put one another are important for the Creator of this reality (such as: Atheist, Christian, Jew, Muslim, Hindu...) but *our deeds* instead, how we use the freedom He has offered, our free will, to strive always to do only good, to never cause useless suffering (any damage) to others and to ourselves. *_"For it is God's will that by doing good you should silence the ignorance of foolish men. Live in freedom, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as servants of God."_* 1 Peter 2,15 - 16 That is why we have to be servants/lovers of perfection (100% goodness, wisdom, justice...), as Jesus Christ has said: *_"Be perfect therefore, as your Heavenly Father is perfect"_* Matthew 5, 48 *_"Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name? And then I will declare to them, I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness! "_* Matthew 7, 21-23 Those who want to use freedom for evil think that they will not be punished by Divinity after the leaving of this world, but they are in error because the evilness = stupidity to use freedom intentionally for evil causes useless suffering / damages to others and to ourselves, which is against God's will.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 2 күн бұрын
@@filmeseverin YOU AR DISHONEST CHRISTIAN. Data does not lie. What an absurdly ignorant and slanderous claim. You cherry-pick statistics and twist them into your self-righteous narrative without a shred of critical thought. Secular nations consistently rank highest in happiness, education, and quality of life, while many of your so-called "godly" nations are drowning in poverty, corruption, and violence. Take a look at the *World Happiness Report:* countries like Finland, Denmark, and Sweden - *all largely secular* - consistently top the rankings for happiness, life satisfaction, and overall well-being. Compare that to highly religious nations that often grapple with systemic corruption, poor healthcare, low literacy rates, and rampant inequality. Where’s your “godly utopia” in that equation? Your obsession with "Satan" is a lazy scapegoat for human complexities, and your desperate need to demonize those who don't share your beliefs reveals more about your insecurity than anything else. If secular societies are supposedly “tools of Satan,” why do they consistently outperform religious nations in metrics that actually matter - like healthcare, education, safety, and personal freedom? Blaming societal problems on the lack of your god is not only intellectually dishonest but also a pathetic attempt to shift focus away from the failings of religious governance throughout history. Grow up and accept that human progress thrives in environments free from oppressive religious dogma.
@AnthonyArmour
@AnthonyArmour 3 күн бұрын
There is plenty of logical reasoning that can be done that points to a creator. Not only a creator but this creator actually being the biblical God. The big bang was the beginning of time, space, matter, and energy. The law of causality describes that if the big bang was the effect there must be a cause required for that effect to take place. Now we can logically deduce this cause existed outside of time because time only existed after the big bang. This cause is an eternal being. We can also logically conclude this being is all-powerful as it is responsible for creating the observable universe. Now this being is also responsible for all of the laws of nature because our physical reality didn’t exist before the big bang. This implies this cause was all-knowing. So now we have a creator that is eternal, all-powerful, and all-knowing. The same God that's described in the biblical text. We can also infer based on moral objectivism that for our morality to be objective and not subjective it requires a single law giver to provide the moral framework for us. This law comes from the God of the Bible. We can also infer that this God is alive as it would provide a reasonable explanation for how life originated. As all life comes from life. Science can’t explain how life originated from non-life. Abiogenesis doesn’t have sufficient evidence to be proven true. With Occam’s razor we can also conclude it's more likely we have a God who assumes all of God’s qualities versus multiple God’s who have some of God’s qualities. We can also conclude the universe isn’t eternal as it would be assuming some of God’s qualities but also now required to be all-powerful and all-knowing to exist as a stand-in for God. Jesus Christ as well has plenty of real evidence that supports He was a real man that walked this earth. There are 24,000 historical documents written about Christ. Compared to another historical figure like Plato we have 7. We don’t have much evidence that supports the miracles other than the main miracle being the resurrection. We have the empty tomb, the Shroud of Turin, and the Sudarium of Oviedo. The tomb has been empty for 2,000 years and there are no bones of Jesus. The shroud being the most scientifically studied object in history. It provides powerful evidence that the resurrection occurred. The shroud and the sudarium have matching blood. As the Shroud has been dated back to 55-75AD. The photonegative image on the shroud is unexplainable by itself. This photonegative image shows us the wounds of Christ precisely how it's described in the synoptic gospels. For the Shroud to get a photonegative image imprinted on it as it is a non-photonegative substrate would require an immense amount of light energy. As the body of Christ would have had to illuminate so much light energy, in fact this light couldn’t have emitted from his body for more than 1/40 billionth of a second or it would have vaporized the shroud. All of the apostles who believed in Christ were willing to become martyrs for the faith. These men willingly died before renouncing faith in Christ. If it was a lie they would have no incentive to die for it as they didn’t gain anything for being apostles of Christ. Who created God? For this if we propose that God is not eternal and requires a creator. Let's call this God God 2 who created God 1. Now God 3 is also required to create God 2. If we continued this out to infinity. This would mean that the chain of creation is infinite and we have no origin point for creation. Mathematically we know this isn’t true as it would require an infinite amount of time to enter existence somewhere in the chain of infinity. It's ruled out because it’s impossible. How can the miracles be real? The God of the bible claims to be the creator of the universe. Any miracle in the bible that's an indescribable event is infinitely miniscule compared to the miracle of the creation of the universe. Reply
@donthesitatebegin9283
@donthesitatebegin9283 3 күн бұрын
Magical-thinking sucks.
@El_Bruno7510
@El_Bruno7510 3 күн бұрын
What an utter load of nonsensical BS.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 3 күн бұрын
That is a bunch of word salad and delusions.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 3 күн бұрын
Your argument is nothing but a pile of logical fallacies and ignorance dressed up as reasoning. 1. **Big Bang Causality** : Claiming the Big Bang needs a "cause" outside of time is laughable. You’re slapping “God” on what you don’t understand. That’s not logic; that’s intellectual cowardice. 2. **Morality** : Morality doesn’t need a sky daddy. It’s a product of social evolution, not some divine decree. Your claim assumes its conclusion-pure circular nonsense. 3. **Abiogenesis** : Science works to answer questions; you lazily throw up your hands and scream “God!” because you lack the patience or intellect to explore reality. 4. **Occam’s Razor** : Adding an eternal, all-powerful, all-knowing being is the *opposite* of simplicity. Learn what Occam’s Razor actually means before embarrassing yourself. 5. **Jesus Evidence** : Thousands of documents prove nothing-quantity isn’t quality. The Shroud? Proven fake. No bones? That’s not evidence of resurrection; it’s evidence of gullibility. 6. **Infinite Regression** : Dodging infinite causality by making God “special” is a cop-out. It solves nothing; it just shifts the goalposts. 7. **Miracles** : Extraordinary claims need extraordinary proof. You’ve got none. A collection of ancient myths doesn’t count. Your whole argument reeks of desperation, built on bad logic and zero evidence. It’s nothing but a fairy tale for those too scared to face reality.
Күн бұрын
Let’s take a look under the hood of your logical reasoning(NOTE: there will be carnage) Anthony: “This cause is an eternal being.” Fails. It doesn’t have to be a being at all. In fact, there are a dozen theories that show that cause to be a field or an inflaton. Experimental evidence support these. You have no experimental evidence for a being. Anthony: “We can also logically conclude this being is all-powerful as it is responsible for creating the observable universe. “ ONLY the observable universe? What about the whole universe that is 1000 times bigger than the observable part? Seriously though, there could be an all-powerful being and the universe emerged from something not of his doing. Prove that an all-powerful being, and not a quantum fluctuation, caused the origin of space-time. Anthony: “ Now this being is also responsible for all of the laws of nature because our physical reality didn’t exist before the big bang “ Doesn’t follow. If our physical reality didn’t exist, it doesn’t follow that the being was responsible for the laws of nature. It has been shown that the laws of nature EMERGE from the geometry of space-time. Different geometry yields different physical laws. They have a research study at Virginia Tech where they are going, one by one, through the various geometries and sorting out which geometries lead to a space-time like ours. As through the time of the colloquium I attended on this, they had found 1270 geometries that worked. Of course they have to go through 10E500 different configurations of space-time. That is a 10 followed by 500 zeros. Anthony: “ This implies this cause was all-knowing. So now we have a creator that is eternal, all-powerful, and all-knowing. “ No, we don’t. I am not even sure what “all-knowing “ implies. Anthony: “ The same God that's described in the biblical text. “ There are DOZENS of descriptions of different gods in the Christian Bible. None of them are the same. In the first century, there were 250 Christian cults, each had its own concept of god, each had its own scripture, each had its own collection of sayings and pronouncements. Why they even had different ideas about the NUMBER of GODS, for crying out loud. Anthony: “ We can also infer based on moral objectivism that for our morality to be objective and not subjective it requires a single law giver to provide the moral framework for us. “ History has shown us that morality is fluid and malleable. Morality is in the eyes of the beholder. In the first century CE, there were over 250 individual Christian cults. Regarding marriage, some believed that no one should marry, others believed that marriage must be monogamous, others believed that you should be polygamous, others believed you should be homosexual (The Secret Gospel of Mark has a story with Jesus as a homosexual). Each had a moral justification for their position. Anthony: “ This law comes from the God of the Bible “ Which god of the Bible? And don’t say the Christian one because there are dozens of Christian gods in the Bible. Anthony: “We can also infer that this God is alive as it would provide a reasonable explanation for how life originated. As all life comes from life “ That is decidedly untrue. Science actually has explanations for how life emerged. Religion does not. YOU do not. Anthony: “ Abiogenesis doesn’t have sufficient evidence to be proven true. “ Actually, in the, what I call “Trillion Step Journey from Hydrogen to Human”. Science has replicated most of the important steps in the lab. Anthony: “With Occam’s razor we can also conclude it's more likely we have a God who assumes all of God’s qualities versus multiple God’s who have some of God’s qualities. “ Ockham’s Razor is one of parsimony. And ANYTHING supernatural is going to be INFINITELY less parsimonious than a natural explanation. Anthony: “ Jesus Christ as well has plenty of real evidence that supports He was a real man that walked this earth. “ There is credible evidence that would lead to the LIKELIHOOD of Jesus walking the Earth, but the proof is OVERWHELMING that he was not a Christ. Anthony: “ There are 24,000 historical documents written about Christ. “ And yet, not a single person who saw Jesus, even from a remote distance, ever wrote anything about him that survived into the second century. AND…. Not one person who wrote an account that survived into the second century of Jesus ever saw Jesus, even from a remote distance. Now, here is a little thought experiment I like to use: Suppose you attended the funeral of someone you were close to. Then, a week later, you run into that same exact person buying scratchers at a convenience store. Wouldn’t you call up the newspaper? Wouldn’t you call the person’s parents, his siblings, even his employer? But in the case of Jeus, NO ONE EVER DID. I am going to take a break here from savaging your “logical reasoning”. Fear not, I will return soon to destroy the rest of it.
@griffini19
@griffini19 3 күн бұрын
Again more BS. Why do we think we know the facts about our existence? We don’t. Why would you think that human beings have the ability to understand such deep things? We don’t. And look at the history bog religions and science… how many times have they got it wrong? Why the hell do you think we are getting it right? We are not! Ding Dong!!
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 3 күн бұрын
"how many times have they got it wrong?" Are you comparing religion and science?
@filmeseverin
@filmeseverin 3 күн бұрын
@griffini19 The truth is only one and has been revealed already. I have proved the truth. Those who sort the comments and read enough from my posts (both answers and threads) can see that *I have proved that this reality has been created by an eternal perfect Intelligence (called God / the Creator) whose nature will never be really comprehended by humans (because of our proved limitations) except through Jesus Christ, the human form of God.*
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 3 күн бұрын
@@filmeseverinThe arrogance in your statement is staggering. You claim to have "proved the truth" yet fail to provide any solid evidence or logical reasoning behind your assertion. You’ve conveniently bypassed the need for rational argument and instead rely on blanket statements about an “eternal perfect Intelligence” and your personal belief in Jesus Christ as the only means of understanding this supposed creator. Let’s break it down: 1. **Proof and Evidence** : You claim to have "proved the truth," but where is this proof? All you've done is assert your belief. Proof isn’t about claiming something as truth; it’s about providing evidence that can be scrutinized and verified by others. Your belief in God and Jesus is a matter of faith, not evidence. You’re trying to pass off personal conviction as logical proof, which is nothing more than a delusion. 2. **Human Limitations** : Yes, humans have limitations, but your argument isn't acknowledging those limitations in a meaningful way. Just because we may never fully comprehend everything doesn’t mean we should resort to magical thinking and unverified assumptions to fill in the gaps. The fact that something might be beyond our understanding doesn’t justify claiming it’s divine or supernatural. 3. **Jesus as the Human Form of God** : This is where you leap from philosophical speculation to theological assertion without offering any real evidence. How can you claim that Jesus is the human form of God when the historical evidence for his life is questionable at best? You rely on circular reasoning: “Because I believe Jesus is God, everything he said must be true.” That’s not logic, it’s faith-based dogma. 4. **Intellectual Dishonesty** : The real issue here is the intellectual dishonesty involved. You claim to have proven something without providing any tangible proof, and you dismiss the need for rational evidence by appealing to divine mystery. If you're truly seeking truth, you should know that belief based solely on faith or personal conviction isn’t proof of anything. It’s merely wishful thinking masquerading as intellectual certainty. Your argument is nothing more than a fortress built on assumptions and faith. It’s easy to claim that your beliefs are the only truth when you ignore all opposing evidence, but that doesn’t make it any more credible. If you actually want to prove something, try engaging with the real world and providing solid, verifiable evidence. Until then, your claims are just another form of baseless assertion.
@El_Bruno7510
@El_Bruno7510 3 күн бұрын
I'm afraid this post just shows how little you know. Science does not aim to be right all the time, it aims to disprove itself.
@ronjackson3
@ronjackson3 3 күн бұрын
If God existed, Christians would, too. Until I see evidence of the latter, I am not even looking for the former!
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 3 күн бұрын
just wait for Filmsenile to come and tell yu how wrong you are. LOL
@filmeseverin
@filmeseverin 3 күн бұрын
@ronjackson3 To not be deceived anymore, the serious and honest people can sort the comments and read as many of my posts (both answers and threads) as they can because *I have proved* not only God's existence, God's eternity and God's perfection, but also all the errors of the atheists and generally of all the unbelievers of the truth, who post on such videos (they never had valid counter arguments, their manipulation - including that done with AI - fooling only the superficial readers).
@ronjackson3
@ronjackson3 3 күн бұрын
@@filmeseverin I stand corrected, I should have said that I do not believe in your god.
@filmeseverin
@filmeseverin 3 күн бұрын
@@ronjackson3 Only those too deceived and too superficial are not sorting the comments to read entirely and carefully all my demonstrations (which prove their errors) just to keep their deceiving. Furthermore, only those who renounce intentionally to elementary logic cannot understand my simple, clear and undeniable demonstrations.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 3 күн бұрын
@@ronjackson3 and now you have met this filmsenile.
@marybuford9591
@marybuford9591 4 күн бұрын
Christianity has become a scary punishing religion. It just must have hell where you can be beaten and punished until you beg for mercy. It's become blasphemy per se. I suppose the best that can be done is to help people escape from hell. Your identity is your soul. Your soul is recorded in your brain. In hell there are 1000s of people who steal and sell your identity. They harm you every time they do it. They want money. Drug addicts are true demons. Craig is an idiot simpleton and Hitchens not much better. Drug addicts will swarm him for money like maggots. Hitchens has millions of dollars. Stoopid debate. Judas was just one devil. He wanted money. 20 pieces of silver. Very bad plan. Btw, there are worlds without birth defects. If you have any money help people leave hell much the same as when Jewish people had to leave Europe.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 4 күн бұрын
"Christianity has become a scary punishing religion" It always was and will.
@jessewhite2879
@jessewhite2879 4 күн бұрын
The problem with the fine tuning argument is that you would have to be able to even conclude that the universe at all could possibly have different constants to begin with… which we can’t because we have nothing else to compare it to, thereby being no way to make measurements to see if different constants would even be possible to exist in a different hypothetical universe = Aka - No universe
@donthesitatebegin9283
@donthesitatebegin9283 4 күн бұрын
If any of the Universal Constants were different, we wouldn't be here to question them. On one hand, this makes fine-tuning seem like a trivial fact of existence. On the other, it feels uncanny and demands an explanation.
@jessewhite2879
@jessewhite2879 4 күн бұрын
@ right… it’s hard to conceptualise either way but the fine tuning argument would make sense only if we «knew» that the constants *could* have been different (ofc meaning we probably almost most definitaly wouldn’t exist if it is) to begin with. Meaning is the constants actually extraordinary or was it the only probable constants to exist for us in the first place. I mean it seems like a meaningless argument in that we don’t even know if any universe could be different = no universe at all. Ofc we wouldn’t be here to question them if it is, but *if* the constants we have in our universe is the only way it could have been, then the constants are not extraordinary at all. But even if a universe could have different constants and would collapse on itself immidiately, there’s still the theory of eternal inflation (the multiverse hypothesis) which the math suggests would indeed be possible, then the fine tuning argument fails there also if that is the case. So ultimately it seems like a pretty weak argument to me.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 4 күн бұрын
@@jessewhite2879 I think fine-tuning argument is another bullcrap that religion constantly trying to make up for their justification for god.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 4 күн бұрын
"The universe is under no obligation to make sense to you" - Neil deGrasse Tyson It is only arrogant and ignorant humans who thinks that the universe cares about them. The universe cares about the human species as much as it cared for dinosaurs.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 4 күн бұрын
I was watching Alex and Collins "debate" and the only thing I hear from Collins is "if something, something is so beautiful, something not boring, etc..." for his defence of fine-tuning argument. This is not something that should come from a scientist.
@bustedfender
@bustedfender 4 күн бұрын
Chris had a hole behind just like the rest of us, calm down fanboys.
@El_Bruno7510
@El_Bruno7510 4 күн бұрын
And that is a meaningful statement because?
@bustedfender
@bustedfender 4 күн бұрын
@ Because it contains meaning. Who are you trying to impress?
@El_Bruno7510
@El_Bruno7510 4 күн бұрын
@@bustedfender The 'meaning' it contains is a blatant fact that no one disputes. Who are you trying to impress? The sky daddy?
@bustedfender
@bustedfender 4 күн бұрын
@@El_Bruno7510 So you know it contains meaning. What was the point of your question?
@bustedfender
@bustedfender 4 күн бұрын
…and how dare you presume me to be religious.
@filmeseverin
@filmeseverin 4 күн бұрын
A n y w a r b e t w e e n h u m a n s is a victory of the fallen angels. _"The devil's finest trick is to persuade you that he does not exist."_ Charles Baudelaire Any atheist should try to answer seriously to the following questions: - Why the bad leaders have been so evil to cause/produce the killing of so many millions of people along history, as they would have been under the control of some very evil forces with hatred for humans? (named "fallen angels" in the Bible) - How can you explain the pure evil of some people able to torture to death other innocent beings, human beings, without any reason except the sadistic pleasure of the fallen angels? *All evil has been done because of stupidity and the main/worst stupidity has always been the not listening to God/Jesus.* In particular, for mankind, if ALL people (over history and nowadays) would have followed the main commandment from Jesus Christ, *besides to love / respect our Heavenly Father, to love / respect (care for) the other humans as we love / respect (care for) ourselves,* all the crimes and the tremendous useless suffering would have never happen. As Jesus has said: *_"Be perfect therefore, as your Heavenly Father is perfect"_* Matthew 5, 48 Unfortunately, too many people have refused over history, and too many still refuse nowadays, to follow this. From the first hominids species who have received the immortal spirits (cast out from Heaven to see here the stupidity of using freedom for evil intentionally, done by the fallen angels), the so called metaphorically Adam and Eve, until nowadays, humans have proved through their choices / deeds how evil, respectively how good they were by following or not anymore the fallen angels, in other words by using freedom for evil intentionally or not, by striving to use freedom only for good.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 3 күн бұрын
This entire argument is pure escapism-you're dodging responsibility and truth by wrapping everything in a convenient fairy tale about "fallen angels" and the need to "listen to God/Jesus." It’s laughable and pathetic. You’re basically trying to make the horrific history of human cruelty somehow the fault of invisible supernatural beings instead of confronting the very real human motivations that lead to atrocities-greed, power, hatred, and ignorance. The fact that you're blaming these evils on "fallen angels" is just a pathetic attempt to dodge the fact that human beings are more than capable of causing harm on their own. History is full of tyrants and dictators who murdered millions, not because of some demonic force, but because they were power-hungry psychopaths or ideologically twisted-no need for your magical scapegoats. And let’s address the absurdity of asking why evil leaders did what they did. It’s clear you're trying to push a narrative where evil comes from some external source, like "fallen angels." News flash: human beings are fully capable of cruelty without needing supernatural assistance. The millions who died under oppressive regimes were victims of human choices, not some unseen force whispering in the ears of these leaders. You want to play the blame game and claim that people only did evil because they didn’t “listen to God”? You’re completely ignoring the fact that the religious ideologies you defend have been used as tools to control and justify some of the worst atrocities in history. Your "fallen angels" aren't responsible for the pain and suffering caused by men-it’s the selfishness, hatred, and greed of actual human beings. And this ridiculous idea that all suffering could’ve been avoided if we just followed one vague commandment is beyond naïve. It’s a cop-out to avoid the messy reality of human nature and history. If people truly followed your simplistic version of love and respect, we wouldn’t be facing the countless injustices and suffering that persist today. Religion has failed time and again to prevent evil and suffering, and you’re just using it as a shield to deflect from the truth. People can live moral, compassionate lives without religion, and you can’t seem to grasp that. The root of human suffering isn’t some demonic plot; it’s the choices we make and the systems of power we create. If you’re going to keep hiding behind fairy tales to avoid confronting that, you’re never going to get anywhere.
@filmeseverin
@filmeseverin 4 күн бұрын
All those who have truly loved goodness, wisdom, justice... perfection until the end of their earthly life, they actually loved (love) God/Jesus and it will be much more easier for them at the Judgment because they have sinned the least. The question is: Why so many were/are opposing to the main advice from Jesus Christ: to strive always for goodness, wisdom, justice... for perfection? *_"Be perfect therefore, as your Heavenly Father is perfect"_* Matthew 5, 48 The answer is: Because just as it is easier to destroy something useful than to make/build something useful, in the same way it is easier to be evil=stupid than to be good=wise. Don't let you be fooled by the haters of the truth, by the liars (who use also AI to manipulate) because they can deceive only the superficial readers, not those who sort the comments with the newest first and pay attention to all the details from my simple, clear and undeniable demonstrations. They are ignoring intentionally all wisdom from the Bible and, also, the fact that the fallen angels (ruled by Satan) have corrupted lots of things in this world to sustain the useless suffering, stupidity=evilness in general. That is why, if there are parts from the Bible, which contradict God's perfection, they are Satan's alterations/lies. *_"Satan, the one who deceives the whole world"_* Rev. 12, 9 (should be seen, also, the "Parable of the weeds" and 2 Corinthians 4, 4). In brief, due to the 100% freedom offered intentionally here by the Creator, it is not easy to fight continuously with what Satan has done to this world (carnivores, parasites, viruses, bad bacteria... the so called _"weeds"_ in Matthew 13:24-43) and to ourselves ... because *until our physical death we fight with the works of the fallen angels and of their tools, the evil=stupid people, the consequences of evilness = stupidity.* Therefore, we live into an altered world by the fallen angels, *allowed as an exam for our immortal soul (for us) to prove to the Creator how good we really are, how much we love perfection and how much we detest evilness=stupidity,* to prove that we are not following the demons anymore. That is why, *the unbelievers of the truth should ask themselves why they choose to fight against our perfect Heavenly Father, when they see the huge suffering caused by the fallen angels and by their tools, the evil=stupid humans, who have used (and are using) for evil intentionally the freedom offered by God.*
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 4 күн бұрын
"All those who have truly loved goodness, wisdom, justice" your god is a moral monster. Your attempt to tie concepts like goodness, wisdom, and justice to belief in Jesus is laughable when the god of the Bible is anything but a beacon of morality. If we’re supposed to model our behavior after your god, let’s look at what that entails: - **Genocide:** The supposed "Heavenly Father" ordered entire populations to be wiped out, including women, children, and infants (1 Samuel 15:3). How exactly is that the "perfection" we're supposed to strive for? - **Slavery:** This god not only condoned slavery but gave instructions on how to treat slaves as property (Leviticus 25:44-46). Justice and wisdom? Hardly. - **Misogyny:** Women are consistently treated as inferior in biblical teachings, from Eve being blamed for original sin to New Testament verses commanding women to be silent in churches (1 Timothy 2:11-12). - **Petty Wrath:** This "perfect" deity killed every firstborn child in Egypt during the plagues (Exodus 12:29) and punished people for the "sins" of their ancestors (Exodus 20:5). You claim people oppose Jesus’s advice to strive for goodness, wisdom, and justice, but those aren’t unique to Christianity. They’re human values found in societies long before and beyond your religion. The real problem here is that the biblical god’s track record is the antithesis of those virtues. If striving to be "perfect" means emulating this genocidal, slave-condoning, misogynistic deity, I’ll pass. You end with the assertion that being "evil = stupid" and "good = wise." If we’re judging good and evil by the Bible’s standards, then your god falls squarely in the "stupid" camp. The question isn’t why people reject Jesus’s advice-it’s why anyone would accept moral guidance from such a deeply flawed and monstrous figure.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 4 күн бұрын
Problem of Evil Paradox - Epicurus 1. *If God is willing to prevent evil but not able, then He is not omnipotent (all-powerful).* 2. *If He is able but not willing, then He is malevolent (not all-good).* 3. *If He is both able and willing, then why does evil exist?* 4. *If He is neither able nor willing, then why call Him God?*
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 4 күн бұрын
This is how the delusional mind of a theist works. They would believe anything the church would tell them and this is why religion is recklessly dangerous. This is why we had nine-11 because extremists promised 72 virgins and an afterlife with god. Christianity is no different. The same bloody spread cult. " *idk.... probably because it's a testament to the events of their day. Face it... we all know from sources both from their testimonies and from historians at that time that events so powerful caused the birth of Christianity. Regardless of what you think of their narrative. These men were closer to those events than you or I were. They talked to people. They wrote about what they saw and heard. Now, you can accept or reject Christ as the Messiah. But other than your atheism... I see no reason for you to question what they wrote down. Do you have contrary sources?.."*
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 4 күн бұрын
News flash to Michael. *Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.* it's clear that Constantine's conversion had a profound impact on the spread and development of Christianity. Without it, Christianity might not have become the dominant religion in Europe and the Mediterranean as quickly or extensively as it did.
@michaelreichwein3970
@michaelreichwein3970 4 күн бұрын
​@LGpi314 then you went on to foolishly accuse me of circular reasoning... which i responded with, "You really need to learn what circular reasoning is... that's like saying I can not use an affidavit in a courtroom because the affidavit supports my position!!!!" It's strange... when you talk about the actions of false religions... I understand your confusion. But are you saying that because there are false religions out there that all religions are false? Or.. are you saying that because God doesn't act in a way that you wanted Him to act...He not allowed to be God? You do realize that you are placing yourself above as a demigod claiming to know better than God on how to run the universe?..
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 4 күн бұрын
@@michaelreichwein3970 Let’s break down the self-righteous nonsense you’re peddling here because it’s almost impressive how much arrogance and ignorance you managed to cram into one incoherent rant. First, your affidavit analogy? Completely asinine. Circular reasoning isn’t about “supporting your position”; it’s about using your conclusion as your premise, like saying, “The Bible is true because the Bible says so.” Affidavits rely on external evidence and scrutiny, not self-referential nonsense. If you actually knew what circular reasoning was, you wouldn’t embarrass yourself by making such an idiotic comparison. Second, the “false religions” excuse is beyond pathetic. Every religion conveniently claims the others are fake while insisting their own is the one true path. By that logic, yours is just as fake to everyone else. Religions have been responsible for countless wars, genocides, and oppression throughout history, all justified in the name of one god or another. Calling those “false religions” is just a desperate attempt to absolve your faith of the blood on its hands. Nice try, but no one’s buying it. Now, this bit about me being a “demigod” because I dare to question your god’s actions? Laughable. Criticizing the idea of an all-powerful, all-loving deity who sits back and lets atrocities like child abuse, genocides, and natural disasters happen isn’t claiming godhood; it’s pointing out the gaping holes in your theology. If your god exists and runs the universe this poorly, he deserves critique, not worship. Or are you so intellectually bankrupt that you think blind submission is a virtue? The real kicker is your implication that doubting your god makes someone foolish while you worship an entity whose existence you can’t even prove. The burden of proof isn’t on me to disprove your god-it’s on you to prove he exists. And no, your circular Bible arguments and vague emotional appeals don’t count. You’re the one claiming omnipotence and perfection for your deity, yet every scrap of evidence in the real world screams incompetence and indifference. That’s your problem, not mine. So here’s some advice: stop acting like your poorly thought-out beliefs are unassailable truths. Your argument isn’t compelling; it’s just another exercise in mental gymnastics to avoid facing the obvious-your religion is as flawed, contradictory, and human-made as the ones you so smugly dismiss.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 4 күн бұрын
@@michaelreichwein3970 Here’s the logical chain that shows the problem with relying on "witness testimony" (WT) from the Bible to prove God’s existence: 1. **Premise 1** : The New Testament is a collection of writings, including supposed "witness testimony," about events involving Jesus and the early Christian community. 2. **Premise 2** : The authors of these texts were believers in Jesus' divinity and had a vested interest in convincing others of their faith. 3. **Premise 3** : Testimony from individuals with a strong belief in a particular outcome (in this case, the divinity of Jesus) is inherently biased and cannot be considered impartial or objective. 4. **Premise 4** : The New Testament writings were passed down orally for years before being written down, and oral traditions are known to degrade over time, distorting the accuracy of the original events. 5. **Premise 5** : The "witness testimony" within the Bible is not corroborated by independent, contemporary sources, leaving the accounts open to questions of accuracy and reliability. 6. **Conclusion 1** : The "witness testimony" in the Bible is self-affirming and comes from authors who were already believers, making it unreliable as unbiased evidence. 7. **Conclusion 2** : By using the very testimony from the Bible to prove the Bible's divine authority, you are engaging in circular reasoning: you're assuming the text is divinely inspired because it says so within the text itself. In short: You are using biased, self-affirming testimony from a book that claims divine authority, which makes the argument circular and logically flawed. Without independent verification or external corroboration, the testimony is unreliable as evidence for God's existence.
@49045
@49045 5 күн бұрын
He just proved how perfect intellectually God is, knowing that man would come up with all kinds of excuses. In Christ, God now only offers redemption and eternal life, nothing else, other religious movements they had political, land conquer, slavery, women, looting motivation, etc...
@donthesitatebegin9283
@donthesitatebegin9283 5 күн бұрын
Wow. You list what "other religious movements" have done - "they had political, land conquer, slavery, women, looting motivation, etc..." - as if you are completely ignorant of the history of Christianity.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 5 күн бұрын
"other religious movements they had political, land conquer, slavery, women, looting motivation, etc..." You just described all religious cults. "In Christ, God now only offers redemption and eternal life," I call it a bullcrap. “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.” ― Christopher Hitchens There is no evidence of angels, satan or gods. Do better next time. What else do you have?
@El_Bruno7510
@El_Bruno7510 5 күн бұрын
Does that makes any sense? I missed the "proof" of anything you claim!
@filmeseverin
@filmeseverin 4 күн бұрын
The atheists with the wishful thinking / who don't want God to exist have always used (and still use) the deeds of the "wolves in sheepskin" (fake believers) to fool the superficial people to think that true Christians have done (do) evil. By the way, in order to understand one of the most important aspects of the sacrifice of Jesus Christ (the human form of Divinity), anyone can read the following parable: A very straight emperor has lost a battle because of a traitor. That traitor was proved to be even his mother, who was the being he loved the most. Known for his honesty and fairness, the king had to judge and punish his mother in the same way as on any other person, and the punishment for high treason consisted of 100 lashes. When soldiers went to his mother to take her to apply the punishment, the king came down from the throne and placed himself in his mother's place, suffering all the 100 lashes. Thus, in the sacrifice of Jesus, God is that righteous king, He, descended from the throne to bear the punishment, is Jesus, the traitor who had to be punished being us, humans. Sacrifice is the only way for perfection to turn the ignorant ones from their using of freedom for evil intentionally, because only dictators use force, but Divinity is the opposite of a dictator.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 4 күн бұрын
@@filmeseverin Oh, I see where this is going now. Atheists are just "wishful thinkers" who need to escape responsibility by rejecting your ridiculous god story, huh? Funny how you go straight to the same tired excuse every believer uses when they’re cornered - "we’re just ignorant, but here’s my emotional plea to ignore the glaring problems in my worldview." And this parable? Are you serious? A king replaces his mother to take 100 lashes to "save" her? What a perfect analogy for someone trying to dodge the point entirely. You’re out here spinning fairy tales to justify the idea of a man-god dying for human sins, all while ignoring the fact that the very story you’re peddling is nothing more than ancient mythology dressed up in a shiny Christian suit. "Divinity is the opposite of a dictator?" What a laugh. You’re asking us to worship a being who is simultaneously a dictator *and* a self-proclaimed savior. It's a mental gymnastics act that falls apart as soon as you think about it for more than two seconds. Atheists aren’t "wishful thinkers." We’re just not desperate enough to cling to Bronze Age stories to explain reality. Unlike you, we don’t need to twist ourselves into knots with a god who supposedly loves us but demands blind obedience and who makes no sense whatsoever. No, we’re actually *thinking* for ourselves and rejecting your nonsense, and we’re doing it because we value reason, evidence, and logic over feel-good religious narratives that fall apart under scrutiny. If you want to keep clinging to this myth, go ahead, but don’t fool yourself into thinking it makes you any smarter. It doesn’t. It just makes you more deluded.
@codehunter3044
@codehunter3044 5 күн бұрын
29:44 My guy, are you disputing your own old testiment 💀
@filmeseverin
@filmeseverin 4 күн бұрын
If you are really interested about the truth you should read first my threads posted over the last few days and, after that, write here if you still have something unanswered.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 4 күн бұрын
@@filmeseverin If your so-called "truth" is so self-evident, why would anyone need to wade through your endless threads of recycled arguments and hollow proclamations? Truth stands on its own; it doesn’t need a maze of mental gymnastics to remain compelling. This reeks of intellectual laziness and arrogance-demanding others sift through your ramblings as if they’re gospel while avoiding any real engagement. Here’s a newsflash: unanswered questions don’t automatically validate your position. They simply highlight the limits of current knowledge or the incoherence of your claims. Instead of playing gatekeeper to your "truth," try presenting actual evidence or logic, if you have any. Spoiler: you don’t.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 4 күн бұрын
@@filmeseverin Your god knows you self-upvote and this is the most of lying theists do.
@michaelreichwein3970
@michaelreichwein3970 4 күн бұрын
​​@@LGpi314You are correct! Truth does stand on its own... The truth of God! The truth of freewill and accountability! The truth of death and judgment! So... no amount of running away... false accusations... lying...deflecting.... etc. None of this will stop the "Truth" from playing out!..
@donthesitatebegin9283
@donthesitatebegin9283 4 күн бұрын
@@michaelreichwein3970 Wow. You've gone all Fire and Brimstone! Are you foaming at the mouth, speaking-in-tongues and handling snakes - at this very moment!?
@BarakaLemway
@BarakaLemway 5 күн бұрын
Someone must be the residential adress of the Holyspirit on Earth in Christ. It worthy to fully being comitted to Jesus Lets dedicate our lives to Jesus we have the Christ mind to overcome every situations ahead.
@francesweathers7497
@francesweathers7497 5 күн бұрын
Props to Biola, Hitchens legit crushed it. He made a much bigger case for those who know science and humanity is evolving versus those who aren't evolving at all.
@filmeseverin
@filmeseverin 4 күн бұрын
The truth is only one. Read at least my threads posted over the last few days because *I have proved that this reality has been created by an eternal perfect Intelligence (called God / the Creator) whose nature will never be really comprehended by humans (because of our proved limitations) except through Jesus Christ, the human form of God.* Most scientists, doctors, engineers... are quite ignorant in many areas (some even in their field of study, unfortunately) but those without God/Jesus are the most deceived because *all evil has been done due to stupidity and the main/worst stupidity has always been the not listening to God/Jesus.* In particular, for mankind, if ALL people (over history and nowadays) would have followed the main commandment from Jesus Christ, *besides to love / respect our Heavenly Father, to love / respect (care for) the other humans as we love / respect (care for) ourselves,* all the crimes and the tremendous useless suffering would have never happen. Without *true belief* in God/Jesus, the following evil facts have happened, are happening and will happen, unfortunately: - so many millions of people killed in wars and not only (following the killing of billions in the Third World War); - so many trillions of dollars, euros, etc. wasted on nuclear, chemical, biological and conventional weapons, on armies, etc. only for killing and destruction... not used for: free better education for ALL, suitable jobs for ALL (without exploitation / slavery), healthier food for ALL, renewable energy, science, eradication of all diseases, better housing (resistant to earthquakes...), financing of useful inventions, recycling, reforestation etc. - sadism, violence, dishonesty, vices, envy ... stupidity in general. We should never fight against each other but only against our lack of useful knowledge / wisdom (for decreasing our ignorance), while loving / respecting each other as we love / respect ourselves, these being the main requests of God/Jesus. Therefore, both true/useful science and proper education are very important to understand God's creation and what is better, regarding the human behavior, so that ALL of us can be not only happier in our ephemera life into this world (while we are still alive here) but also deserving, or at least allowable, for perpetual life in Heaven (after leaving this world). By the way, the problem with the deceived ones is that they do not know enough science, otherwise they would realize the fact that true/proven/useful science is used to gain the trust and after that the fake/unproven (because it is false) science, *on which are wasted the most resources,* is used to manipulate the superficial people, to keep them away from the truth about/from God/Jesus, the most important truth.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 4 күн бұрын
@@filmeseverin Your argument is a mess of delusion and arrogance. You talk as if you're the only one with access to "the truth," while dismissing centuries of intellectual progress as "deceived" or "ignorant." The fact that you equate your limited, unprovable beliefs with universal truth is not only laughable, it’s dangerous. You’re not enlightening anyone-you’re just parroting baseless claims with no evidence, all while claiming that every problem in the world is because people don’t follow your particular brand of nonsense. Real science and progress don't need your medieval fairy tales to flourish. Your ignorance of both the world and human nature is staggering. Keep hiding behind your delusions of superiority, but don’t expect anyone with a functioning brain to buy it.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 4 күн бұрын
@@filmeseverin 1. **"The truth is only one..."** The "truth" you're talking about isn't truth-it's just a product of your own delusion. You claim to have "proved" something with no evidence, and yet expect others to bow down to your baseless assertions. The fact that you believe your narrow view is the only "truth" shows how out of touch you are with reality. 2. **"Most scientists, doctors, engineers... are quite ignorant..."** You’re delusional if you think people who dedicate their lives to studying the world, solving complex problems, and advancing human knowledge are "ignorant." Your comments are an insult to decades of research, discovery, and progress in fields you clearly don't understand. Just because you don’t get it doesn’t mean it’s wrong. 3. **"Without true belief in God/Jesus, the following evil facts have happened..."** This is nothing more than the same tired blame-shifting that the religious have been using for centuries. Wars, violence, and suffering are caused by power, greed, and human nature-not by a lack of belief in your deity. Claiming that your god is the solution to all human problems is naive and unsubstantiated. The world would be a better place if people focused on real solutions, not ancient fairy tales. 4. **"If ALL people... would have followed the main commandment from Jesus Christ..."** The idea that following religious commandments would solve all of humanity's problems is laughable. If history has shown anything, it’s that blind adherence to dogma has caused just as much harm as good. Your solution isn’t practical or effective-it's just a way to impose your personal beliefs on others. 5. **"Without true belief in God/Jesus, the following evil facts have happened..."** Once again, you’re placing the blame for human suffering on the wrong things. The real issue is not a lack of belief in your deity, but human greed, inequality, and conflict. Your failure to understand the complexities of these issues is what makes your argument so absurd. 6. **"We should never fight against each other but only against our lack of useful knowledge..."** It’s easy to say we should fight ignorance when you're the one spreading it. You have no understanding of how knowledge, education, or science work. The real fight should be against superstition, close-mindedness, and the toxic influence of people like you who try to control others with irrational beliefs. 7. **"The problem with the deceived ones is that they do not know enough science..."** Here you are, accusing others of ignorance while clearly displaying your own lack of understanding. Science isn’t about blindly following something-it’s about questioning, testing, and refining our understanding of the world. What you call "fake science" is actually the product of rigorous investigation and critical thinking, while your beliefs are nothing more than superstition. 8. **"True/proven/useful science is used to gain the trust and after that the fake/unproven science..."** You can’t distinguish between science and pseudoscience, can you? Just because your faith in your beliefs is unshakable doesn’t make them true. Your insistence that the world’s problems stem from a lack of belief in your god is laughable. It’s not science that’s holding us back-it’s people like you, stuck in a centuries-old myth, unwilling to acknowledge reality.
@michaelreichwein3970
@michaelreichwein3970 4 күн бұрын
​​@@LGpi314your entire post is a word salad rant! From beginning to end it amounts to nothing more than outpouring of emotional complaints. Your opponent is arguing from within the framework of his own religious ideology. Where is your own in support of your religious ideologies. Yes.. I know... you're going to argue that atheism is not an ideology. But it is! Your opponents hold by faith that which they claim to be true! You also hold my faith that would you claim to be true! For you cannot argue that atheism is a non position. Unless you want to assert here now that you do not know or have knowledge that atheism is true! Your opponent has placed out there for discussion his views on reality to be either praised or trampled on. Where is this Pro atheistic philosophy? Where you can identify as whatever you want! Will morality rest in the foundations of your own desires and wants! Where identity is really an illusion! And emotions... what are emotions to a bag of biological processes? Try to understand.... you are real quick to critique... to criticize... to shout down with condescending language.. all those who parade before the world what they believe. Are you ashamed of your own lifestyle? Are you ashamed of the things you do behind locked doors? Is that why you argue against what you perceive as the injustice and immorality taking place within the scriptures? That by arguing against God you make your own actions less palpable? Maybe before you complain about the littlest splinter in God's character. You remove the board out of your own character first..!
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 4 күн бұрын
@@michaelreichwein3970 Word salad? That’s rich coming from you-a walking cliché factory churning out recycled dogma and strawmen so flimsy they’d blow over in a light breeze. Let’s dissect your rambling nonsense piece by piece. First, calling atheism an ideology is laughable. Atheism is simply the rejection of belief in gods, no more an ideology than not believing in unicorns. If you think that constitutes faith, then congratulations, your worldview is so elastic it’s rendered meaningless. You want to lump atheism in with your faith to give your arguments some borrowed legitimacy, but it doesn’t work that way. Not believing in your celestial tyrant isn’t faith-it’s sanity. Second, your opponent "arguing from within their framework" is the intellectual equivalent of shouting into a paper bag. Just because you repeat your indoctrinated talking points doesn’t make them valid-it just shows you’re incapable of stepping outside your own bubble. You want a “pro-atheistic philosophy”? Here it is: critical thinking, evidence-based reasoning, and not excusing atrocities because they’re divinely sanctioned. Meanwhile, your worldview is rooted in blind obedience and the fantasy of eternal rewards. As for morality, your tired claim that it must come from your god is pathetic. We don’t need your genocidal maniac in the sky to tell us it’s wrong to murder or steal. Morality predates your religion and thrives without it. And spare us the condescending drivel about identity and emotions-they’re rooted in science, not the whims of a deity. Unlike you, we don’t need a cosmic overlord to make sense of the human condition. Then there’s your pathetic dive into personal attacks. You assume atheists are ashamed of their lives or actions because your entire worldview hinges on guilt and fear. Projection much? Maybe you should ask yourself why you’re so obsessed with what others do “behind locked doors.” Newsflash: rejecting your god doesn’t mean living immorally-it means living authentically, without the need to appease a deity who, by your own scriptures, is more immoral than any human could ever be. And that bit about the “splinter in God’s character” versus the “board in ours”? Nice try, but the plank in your god’s eye is a forest of horrors: slavery, genocide, misogyny, and child murder, all cheerfully endorsed in your so-called holy book. Don’t lecture anyone on morality until you’ve cleaned up the bloodstains dripping from the pages of your scriptures. Your entire argument reeks of desperation and hypocrisy-typical of someone who knows deep down that their belief system is crumbling under the weight of its contradictions.
@AbdirisakyussufMaalim
@AbdirisakyussufMaalim 5 күн бұрын
Did you try the holy qur aan ,coz i guarantee you ,,you wont find any mistake
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 5 күн бұрын
"you wont find any mistake" Is this sarcasm?
@donthesitatebegin9283
@donthesitatebegin9283 5 күн бұрын
Rubber Dinghy Rapids, innit.
@El_Bruno7510
@El_Bruno7510 5 күн бұрын
You can't have read it then! How far in is it before it tells you how to beat your wife? I forget!
@michaelreichwein3970
@michaelreichwein3970 5 күн бұрын
The Atheist arguing from naturalism. Attempts to dissuade people from believing in God by arguing against the power, policies, or procedures of God. They argue that if God was real, he would not allow evil to exist. Since evil exist God cannot be real! They argue that for the theist, the truth of God's existence lies in disproving all other religions. They attempt to invalidate the scriptures by arguing against what they perceive as contradictions from within the scriptures. These are the core arguments presented by atheist. In keeping it real..... this is not a thought game.... religion is not a take it or leave it proposition.... the beliefs or conclusions you arrive at, while alive, will impact you in one way or another for all eternity. The grave... Heaven... Hell... Shakespeare once said.... "All the world’s a stage, And all the men and women merely players, They have their exits and their entrances.." As a theist, I am arguing for the validity of the scriptures. The historicity of Jesus Christ. The contextual relationship between man, freewill, and accountability. The problem of evil.... When bad things happen to people... When bad things happen to Society... When bad things happen in general... The atheist claims that the existence of evil disproves the existence of God. This is not simply wrong. This a misunderstanding of God's position. We were not created to ignore God. No, rather, we were created to be in a relationship with God. But because mankind chooses to use his freewill to sin (transgress the commands of God). We threw our relationship with God, right down the toilet! Because of this, sin entered into the world. The consequences... man's nature was tainted with sin. Man was made to leave the garden of Eden. Now.. it doesn't stop there. Later in history man wanted to be like God. To rule himself. To rule over others. So God... gave to mankind just 10 Commandments. And said, if man wants to be like God... have at it! Here is just 10.. be good! And yep! We threw the TOILET DOWN THE TOILET!!!! After all of this. God still wants us to come back to Him. To have a relationship with Him. In the Old Testament we were under the law.. The New Testament we are under grace. Remember that I said accountability? Well... with freewill also comes accountability! That's important to understand! Because there are many who reject God. There are some who worship God. There are many who worship false gods... There are some who reject the very idea of gods... All these positions! They all come with excess baggage! Here is what God said in Proverbs.... "25 because you neglected all my counsel, and would have none of my reproof, 26 I also will laugh at your calamity;" When bad things happen, do you go to God for help? No? So why do you blame God for allowing it in the first place? 🤔 Maybe as a person... as a people... as a nation... if we went to God daily. Bad things would not happen. Now, there will be many that will say what I wrote is nothing more than BS! That i am projecting, etc. But here is the thing! You cannot disqualify my philosophical ideology simply because you don't like my answer! I could reverse it... when you call God a moral monster. It is you who are projecting your own flaws about the Christian philosophy into the conversation. Besides... to even call God onto the carpet to call into question His morality. You would have to first demonstrate that your particular version of morality was the correct version of morality... with/having authority over God! Good luck with that!..
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 5 күн бұрын
This wall of self-righteous drivel is nothing but a desperate attempt to defend a deity who, by your own scriptures, is a petty, vengeful tyrant unworthy of even basic respect, let alone worship. You want to blame humanity for evil? Let’s be real-your god supposedly designed everything, including humanity. If the system failed, it’s on the designer. Giving people "free will" and then punishing them for using it is the move of a sadistic control freak, not an all-wise creator. Your fairy tale about commandments and humanity "throwing it down the toilet" is laughable. Expecting perfection from imperfect beings your god supposedly created broken is absurd. And let’s not forget the genocides, the global flood, and the endorsement of slavery and rape in your "holy" book. Your god’s behavior would make dictators blush. He’s not a loving parent; he’s an authoritarian monster who punishes dissent with eternal torture. Proverbs 1:26, where your god laughs at people’s suffering, only cements his status as a cosmic sociopath. Laughing at calamity? That’s not justice-that’s cruelty on a scale only your imaginary deity could aspire to. And your disgusting implication that bad things happen because people don’t worship enough? Tell that to children dying of starvation or innocents caught in natural disasters. Your god either caused it, allowed it, or was powerless to stop it-all of which make him an unworthy object of worship. And the audacity to claim atheists project their flaws onto your god? Give me a break. Your god is the embodiment of pettiness, vindictiveness, and cruelty-characteristics he supposedly instilled in humanity. Calling him moral requires abandoning any shred of decency or logic. Your god is a monster, plain and simple, and the only thing worse is people like you bending over backward to justify his atrocities.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 5 күн бұрын
We all know you and filmsenile will *murde*r your *own child* when your god commands. There is no 2nd thought. Oh, of course! A deity laughing at human suffering is *definitely* the pinnacle of divine morality. Nothing says "worship me" like kicking people when they’re down and then giggling about it. And blaming victims of war, famine, and disasters for not worshiping enough? Brilliant! Clearly, starving children and disaster victims should’ve just prayed harder to avoid their fate. Your god’s system is such a masterstroke of divine wisdom: create a flawed world, let chaos run rampant, and then blame the victims for not groveling enough. Truly inspiring. If that’s supposed to be a selling point for worship, your god needs a new PR team. Or maybe he’s just too busy laughing at calamity to care.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 5 күн бұрын
Oh, how convenient-a smug little shield to deflect any criticism of your grotesque ideology. “You can’t criticize my god unless you prove your morality is better”? Please. If your god’s morality includes genocides, slavery, eternal torture, and laughing at suffering, it doesn’t take a divine degree to call it out as the depraved, sadistic garbage that it is. Your attempt to reframe this as some kind of deep philosophical stance is laughable-it’s just an excuse to defend the indefensible. And the projection argument? Spare me. If anyone’s projecting, it’s you, trying to smear criticism of your moral monster of a god as a flaw in *us*. Your god’s actions wouldn’t pass as acceptable for the worst human dictator, but you want us to bow down and call it good. Keep your “philosophical ideology”; it’s nothing but a repackaging of cruelty and delusion.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 5 күн бұрын
Problem of Evil Paradox - Epicurus 1. *If God is willing to prevent evil but not able, then He is not omnipotent (all-powerful).* 2. *If He is able but not willing, then He is malevolent (not all-good).* 3. *If He is both able and willing, then why does evil exist?* 4. *If He is neither able nor willing, then why call Him God?*
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 5 күн бұрын
Neil Degrasse Tyson put it very well: What is God? " God is an ever receding pocket of scientific ignorance that is getting smaller and smaller and smaller as time moves on". *'The word God is for me nothing but the expression and product of human weaknesses,'* Einstein wrote to Gutkind, *'the Bible a collection of venerable but still rather primitive legends. No interpretation, no matter how subtle, can (for me) change anything about this.'* *The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.* -Albert Einstein You are the true product of evolution and natural selection. Some species evolve and some have no need for it. You are the latter one.
@Holmesson
@Holmesson 5 күн бұрын
"Atheism isn't true." 🤦‍♂️
@filmeseverin
@filmeseverin 5 күн бұрын
Yes, atheists' belief is wrong / false / not true. Generally, those from such videos, exposed to my clear and undeniable demonstrations but who still want to remain atheists, are ignoring intentionally the simple fact that *from no intelligence involved, no intelligence comes,* hoping that this reality is the result of no intelligence, in other words that God does not exist, only to escape the responsibility for their deeds, to not be Judged by God/Jesus after the leaving of this world, but they are in error. *_"For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive his due for the things done in the body, whether good or bad."_* 2 Corinthians 5, 10 My simple and undeniable demonstrations can be found quite easily after sorting the comments (including my threads posted over the last 3 days).
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 5 күн бұрын
@@filmeseverin Oh, so now we’re supposed to bow down to your “undeniable demonstrations” that somehow manage to prove all atheism is wrong? How convenient. Just because you slap some vague claims together doesn’t make them true. And the whole “intelligence doesn’t come from non-intelligence” spiel? Ridiculous. If we follow that reasoning, we’d be stuck in the dark ages with your nonsensical idea of everything needing a creator. So, tell me-does that mean everything that exists must have an “intelligent creator”? Stars? Planets? Black holes? I’m guessing your answer is “yes,” even though it’s an absurd position to hold. But then, of course, you pull out the Bible for a little fear-mongering, throwing in the threat of divine judgment like it's supposed to impress anyone. Newsflash: no one’s scared by that anymore. The notion that we should accept your version of reality out of fear of eternal damnation is a weak, manipulative tactic-and it’s as tired as your arguments. And don’t even get me started on your so-called “evidence.” You’re not demonstrating anything. You’re just repeating your personal beliefs and calling them facts. The burden of proof isn’t on everyone else to disprove your claims; it’s on *you* to back up your wild assertions. So, unless you can actually bring some concrete proof and not just parrot your biased opinions, it’s time to stop acting like you’ve “won” the argument. You haven’t. You’ve just wasted everyone’s time.
@claudiapalomares3013
@claudiapalomares3013 5 күн бұрын
Merry Christmas. Thank you for this videos
@formerfundienowfree4235
@formerfundienowfree4235 5 күн бұрын
Again, here is Christianity trying to remain relevant and keep up with the rest of the world and the progress. The secular disciplines are making.
@formerfundienowfree4235
@formerfundienowfree4235 5 күн бұрын
A little late to the party? Christian fundamentalists are historically hostile to psychology. They don’t teach self forgiveness, and self love is seen as inborn pride and it’s assumed that people naturally love themselves. I’m here to tell you they don’t. Self love is a skill!
@James-v1o
@James-v1o 6 күн бұрын
Rosenberg's disrespectful opening was appalling.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 6 күн бұрын
This is how DISHONEST FILMESENILE IS. He upvotes his OWN comments because nobody else believes him but his god can see it all and will send punishment onto FILMESEVERIN. The statement commits several fallacies: 1. **Begging the Question (Circular Reasoning)** : - **Example**: The claim that "all readers careful to the details from my demonstrations can recognize easily the weak attempts to deny from those without valid counter arguments" assumes that the author's arguments are already valid without providing independent evidence. It’s circular reasoning because the statement presupposes the truth of the conclusion (that the counterarguments are weak) just because it is the author's view. 2. **Appeal to Authority** : - **Example**: "More of my posts are read for real, back in time, better understanding is assured." This implies that simply reading more of the author's posts leads to better understanding, as if the sheer volume or past writings automatically make the arguments true. This is an appeal to authority, as it emphasizes the authority of the author’s posts over the strength of the arguments themselves, suggesting that increased exposure to the author's work inherently strengthens the understanding. 3. **Ad Hominem** : - **Example**: The statement that those who deny the author’s position are "without valid counter arguments" indirectly attacks the character or intellect of those opposing the author, implying that their objections aren’t worth considering. This diverts attention from the actual arguments of the critics, instead of addressing them directly. 4. **Overgeneralization** : - **Example**: "More of my posts are read for real, back in time, better understanding is assured." This is an overgeneralization, implying that simply reading more posts leads to understanding, which isn’t necessarily true. Understanding depends on critical thinking, engagement, and reasoning, not just the quantity of material read. 5. **False Dilemma** : - **Example**: The implication that those who disagree with the author must be without valid counterarguments presents a false dilemma. It simplifies the debate into two options: either agree with the author, or lack valid counterarguments. It ignores the possibility that one might have valid and well-reasoned objections that the author is not addressing.
@michaelreichwein3970
@michaelreichwein3970 5 күн бұрын
@LGpi314 1-5.. nice definitions... haven't demonstrated a single one as being true! 😢..
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 5 күн бұрын
@@michaelreichwein3970 "Nice definitions... haven’t demonstrated a single one as being true!" That’s nothing but empty words with no substance and sti BSing. You’re dodging the arguments entirely and instead throwing out vague dismissals to cover for your lack of an actual counterpoint. Meanwhile, you’re still worshiping a moral monster-a deity that condones genocide, slavery, and eternal torture-and pretending that somehow makes you the arbiter of truth. Spare me the self-righteous nonsense.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 5 күн бұрын
@@michaelreichwein3970 I know reading is hard for 5 years-old brain. Maybe elementary school is in your near future.
@filmeseverin
@filmeseverin 6 күн бұрын
All the readers careful to the details from my demonstrations can recognize easily the weak attempts to deny from those without valid counter arguments (more of my posts are read for real, back in time, better understanding is assured). I wish only well to everyone and as much wisdom as possible for everyone! To be saved!
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 6 күн бұрын
YOu continue LYING like there is no tomorrow. YOUR GOD WILL SEND YOU TO HEII The statement commits several fallacies: 1. **Begging the Question (Circular Reasoning)**: The claim that readers who carefully follow the author's demonstrations will easily recognize the weakness of counterarguments assumes that the author's arguments are already valid, without providing independent support for that assertion. It’s circular reasoning-claiming the argument is true simply because it has been presented in a particular way. 2. **Appeal to Authority**: The author seems to suggest that the sheer volume of posts read or their perceived superiority over others automatically establishes the truth of their arguments. This is an appeal to authority, where the focus shifts from the actual content of the argument to the supposed authority or experience of the writer. 3. **Ad Hominem**: The statement dismisses the opposing side by implying that their counterarguments are weak or invalid, without engaging with the actual substance of those arguments. This undermines the opponents based on their perceived lack of counterarguments rather than addressing their points directly. 4. **Overgeneralization**: The assertion that more posts read over time will lead to better understanding is a hasty generalization. Just because someone has read more doesn’t necessarily mean they have a better understanding-context, comprehension, and critical thinking matter far more than the quantity of reading. 5. **False Dilemma**: The statement implies that if someone disagrees with the author’s position, they must be without valid counterarguments. This presents a false dilemma by reducing the issue to a binary choice-either you agree and understand, or you're dismissing weak counterarguments. It ignores the possibility that others might have well-reasoned, valid objections.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 6 күн бұрын
"I wish only well to everyone and as much wisdom as possible for everyone! To be saved!" We don't need any from your moral monster imaginary god. Problem of Evil Paradox - Epicurus 1. *If God is willing to prevent evil but not able, then He is not omnipotent (all-powerful).* 2. *If He is able but not willing, then He is malevolent (not all-good).* 3. *If He is both able and willing, then why does evil exist?* 4. *If He is neither able nor willing, then why call Him God?*
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 6 күн бұрын
Counter my arguments. Your entire post is nothing but a desperate attempt to shield your baseless beliefs behind a wall of bad logic, empty rhetoric, and meaningless quotes from a book you’ve already decided is beyond question. Let’s rip apart this nonsense line by line: 1. **"From no intelligence, no intelligence comes":** This isn’t an argument; it’s a lazy, unsupported assertion. If you think intelligence must come from intelligence, then by your own logic, your god must have a creator. Who made him? And if your god doesn’t need a creator, then why can’t the universe exist without one? You’re playing a double standard because your fragile worldview can’t handle actual scrutiny. 2. **"The perfection of mathematics proves God's perfection":** Are you serious? Mathematics is a human invention used to describe patterns we observe in the universe. It doesn’t prove anything about a god, much less your specific god. If anything, the randomness and brutality of nature-extinction, disease, disasters-point to a universe that couldn’t care less about “perfection.” 3. **"Only Jesus Christ said...":** Wow, quoting your holy book to prove your holy book. That’s not just circular reasoning; it’s intellectual cowardice. Every religion has its "unique" claims, and none of them are proof of anything. The Quran, the Bhagavad Gita, and countless other texts make grand statements too, but I bet you dismiss those out of hand. Why? Because you’ve already chosen to believe your version of the truth without a shred of evidence. 4. **"God is beyond time, and this world has already ended":** What a convenient little escape hatch. When your god’s behavior doesn’t make sense, you just hand-wave it away by claiming he exists "beyond time" or operates in a way humans can't understand. That’s not an argument; it’s a cop-out. If you can’t even explain your god’s actions coherently, why should anyone take your claims seriously? 5. **"The Bible has exact prophecies":** Oh, please. The Bible’s "prophecies" are vague, self-fulfilling, or flat-out wrong. Let’s look at your examples: - "Like the days of Sodom"-every generation thinks society is going downhill. That’s not prophecy; that’s human pessimism. - "People will deny that God created the universe"-wow, predicting skepticism in a book meant to stop skepticism. Groundbreaking. - "The Gospel will reach all nations"-this isn’t prophecy; it’s the direct result of colonialism, genocide, and forced conversion. - Global warming, war, and pandemics? These are human-made problems and natural occurrences, not divine signs. Quit blaming god for our mess. 6. **"Blasphemy, wicked behavior, and money-hungry preachers":** Newsflash: These things have always existed and always will. They’re not predictions; they’re just observations about human nature. And if you want to talk about "money-hungry preachers," maybe start with the televangelists who exploit gullible believers for millions while laughing all the way to the bank. 7. **"Scoffers will mock the Second Coming":** Yeah, because it’s a ridiculous claim with zero evidence. People mock it for the same reason they mock flat-earthers and doomsday cults-it’s absurd. Your so-called prophecy amounts to saying, "People will disagree with me," which is hardly impressive. ### The real problem: Your entire argument is a pathetic mix of fearmongering, intellectual dishonesty, and blind faith. You dismiss critical thinking as "deception" because deep down, you know your beliefs can’t survive actual scrutiny. Instead of engaging with evidence or reason, you double down on tired clichés and vague threats about the "Last Judgment." It’s laughable. Religion like this isn’t just wrong-it’s harmful. It promotes ignorance, stifles progress, and divides people with its "us vs. them" mentality. Your inability to see the flaws in your argument is a testament to how deeply indoctrinated you are. You’ve traded curiosity and reason for dogma and submission, and that’s not just sad-it’s dangerous.
@michaelreichwein3970
@michaelreichwein3970 6 күн бұрын
​@LGpi314 I see that you are still blaming God for where you live... the choices you make! The evil in the world that you want God to prevent. God has given men "seatbelts." It is not His fault if we choose not to use them! And I am still willing to pray to God to take away your freewill!..
@citizenghosttown
@citizenghosttown 6 күн бұрын
To be saved? Then, you would do well to worry about your own salvation. Your reptitive posts and your inability to engage others with honesty are nothing more thans shallow exhibitions of your own ego and pride -- as all serious and honest readers can see quite clearly. To quote the famous theologian, Jonathan Edwards: "Remember that pride is the worst viper that is in the heart, the greatest disturber of the soul's peace and sweet communion with Christ; it was the first sin that ever was and lies lowest in the foundation of Lucifer's whole building and is the most difficultly rooted out and is the most hidden, secret and deceitful of all lusts and often creeps in, insensibly, into the midst of religion and sometimes under the disguise of humility." Take heed. You're welcome.
@davidmaldonado3129
@davidmaldonado3129 6 күн бұрын
I heard his testimony in another Chanel more in detail Wow God was with him when he was walking in china for 3 days he said he was so exhausted he fell out on the floor & was screaming to God don’t let me Die like this here and 20 minutes later the motorcycle stop and ask him if he was from North Korea after he told yea the guy put him on the motorcycle drove him for like 12 hours took him home, gave him food, clothes and medicine. Pretty much an angel send by God help him. Wow !! His testimony is amazing
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 6 күн бұрын
Filmsenile can't deceive anyone with his bullcrap and here is the proof. His refusal to rebut my counter-argument is the evidence that his moral monster god does not exist. This argument is riddled with logical fallacies and misunderstandings of both science and philosophy. Let’s break it down: 1. **Appeal to Ignorance** : The argument relies on the claim that the Bible's metaphors-like the creation of Adam and Eve-can now be "fully understood" due to modern scientific knowledge. This is a classic case of the appeal to ignorance fallacy. Just because someone suggests that new interpretations might fit modern understanding doesn’t make it valid. This is not an argument for truth; it’s an attempt to make ancient religious texts appear compatible with modern science when there’s no actual evidence to back up these claims. The mere fact that an explanation "sounds plausible" does not mean it’s correct. 2. **False Analogy** : The comparison between Eve being created from Adam’s rib and the X chromosome being a “scientific explanation” is a blatant and misleading analogy. The Bible’s creation story was never intended to be a scientific account of human biology, yet here it is being contorted to fit a modern scientific framework that doesn’t belong. This is not only historically and scientifically inaccurate, it’s a textbook example of trying to make a myth fit reality by force, something the scientific method warns against. 3. **Circular Reasoning** : The argument that “Adam and Eve are the first hominids chosen by God” relies entirely on the premise that Genesis is a literal account of human origins, and then goes on to present this as evidence for the claim. But this is circular reasoning: the Bible is taken as truth to prove that the Bible is true. This "evidence" doesn’t stand up to scrutiny-it assumes its conclusion from the start without offering any actual proof. 4. **Appeal to Authority** : Quoting personal testimonies like the “NDE-ATHEIST PROFESSOR” as proof of divine truth is an appeal to authority fallacy. Just because someone claims to have had a mystical experience doesn’t make it objective or universal. People from all walks of life, including atheists, have had experiences that are better explained by psychological or neurological factors, not divine intervention. Testimonies are not evidence-they’re personal anecdotes, and they certainly do not replace empirical data. 5. **False Dilemma** : The argument presents a binary choice: either you believe the Bible as a literal and metaphoric truth, or you’re simply ignorant and refusing to accept the divine truth. This oversimplifies the complexities of belief, science, and interpretation. People can be well-educated, moral, and kind without subscribing to this specific narrative. Not everyone who questions these religious claims is “willfully ignorant,” as suggested-it simply means that they’re not convinced by the arguments presented. 6. **Appeal to Consequences** : The underlying assumption here is that if you don’t accept the argument, you’re choosing to reject truth, and that comes with terrible consequences. This is a subtle form of the appeal to consequences fallacy. The speaker suggests that not accepting their worldview will lead to damnation, thus using fear to control belief. Fear doesn’t justify truth. The threat of punishment is not a rational argument. 7. **Straw Man** : The argument distorts the skeptic position by suggesting that non-believers just want to escape judgment. This is not the case for most atheists or agnostics, who reject belief based on the lack of evidence for divine claims, not out of a desire to avoid consequences. By misrepresenting their views, the speaker avoids confronting the actual arguments skeptics present. In conclusion, this argument is an amalgamation of logical fallacies, unsubstantiated claims, and personal anecdotes that only serve to reinforce an already held belief without offering any convincing evidence or rational analysis. It’s clear that the speaker is more interested in defending a dogma than in actually engaging with the critical points raised by skeptics. The reliance on fallacious reasoning only weakens the argument further.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 6 күн бұрын
Just so everyone can't be fooled by filmsenile. So once again. Here are the fallacies filmsenile committed. HE IS THE MOST DISHONEST CHRISTIAN AND GOD WILL PUNISH HIM. The argument being presented is riddled with logical fallacies, and it's so transparently flawed that it can only be taken seriously by those desperate to cling to comforting myths. Let’s break down why this is so nonsensical: 1. **Appeal to Ignorance (Argument from Incredulity)** : The speaker assumes that because their arguments seem "undeniable" to them, they must be beyond dispute. This is a classic case of assuming ignorance in others, dismissing skepticism as "willful ignorance," and essentially demanding blind agreement. This is nothing more than a weak attempt to avoid the burden of proof, assuming that just because they can't imagine how anyone might disagree, everyone else must simply be wrong. 2. **False Dilemma (Either/Or Fallacy)** : The speaker presents the issue as if there are only two options: either you love their god, or you're against perfection itself. This oversimplification ignores the fact that people can live morally, ethically, and compassionately without subscribing to any particular religious belief. It’s a childish, black-and-white view of the world that doesn’t hold up to reality. 3. **Ad Hominem (Abusive)** : Instead of addressing the argument, the speaker resorts to insulting those who disagree with them, calling them "ignorant" or "willfully ignorant." This is an attempt to discredit the person rather than the argument itself, and it’s a clear sign that they have no solid counterarguments. When the best you can do is attack the character of your opponents, it’s obvious that your position is weak. 4. **Appeal to Emotion (Pathos)** : The emotional manipulation here is blatant. The speaker uses guilt and fear tactics, implying that rejection of their beliefs leads to suffering and eternal damnation. This is a cheap way to sway weak-minded individuals, playing on their emotions rather than presenting rational arguments. It’s not a logical discourse; it’s emotional blackmail. 5. **Circular Reasoning (Begging the Question)** : The argument assumes the truth of Christianity without offering any real evidence to justify it. The claim that belief in Jesus leads to salvation and rejection leads to damnation is simply taken as fact without any logical or empirical support. This is nothing but circular reasoning, where the conclusion is hidden within the premise. 6. **False Authority** : Quoting religious texts as if they hold inherent, unquestionable truth is laughable. Just because something is written in a book doesn’t make it true. The speaker uses these texts as "evidence," but they’re only authoritative to those already committed to the belief system. Anyone outside that bubble sees them for what they are: stories that can't be proven and are open to countless interpretations. This is a blatant appeal to authority that can’t stand up to scrutiny. 7. **Straw Man Fallacy** : The speaker distorts the views of non-believers, implying that atheists reject belief in God just to "escape judgment" and avoid responsibility. This is a simplistic, dishonest misrepresentation of skepticism. Atheists reject religious claims not out of fear, but because they demand evidence and rational explanations-something that religion rarely provides. 8. **Bandwagon Fallacy** : Just because a belief is widespread doesn't mean it’s true. The speaker tries to imply that the popularity of their religious views somehow proves them correct. This is an appeal to the popularity fallacy, where they assume that because something is accepted by many, it must be valid. Popularity does not equal truth. 9. **Appeal to Consequences** : There’s an underlying insinuation that atheists only reject belief in God because they want to avoid punishment. This is a lazy and dismissive way to argue. The reality is that many atheists reject belief not out of fear of consequences, but because they believe that a rational approach to life is better than relying on ancient, unverifiable myths. In short, this entire argument is a jumble of emotional manipulation, circular reasoning, and a blatant disregard for logic and evidence. It's an appeal to the frightened and the gullible, and it's clear that the speaker is more interested in maintaining a narrative than in engaging with valid, rational skepticism.
@michaelreichwein3970
@michaelreichwein3970 6 күн бұрын
@LGpi314 The funny thing is... other than giving definitions... you have demonstrated that he committed any of these fallacies! 😢😢
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 6 күн бұрын
@michaelreichwein3970 the hilarious thing is that you are still BSing and can't demonstrate any absolute universal evidence for your god. I demonstrateed all your and filmsenile fallacies with actual examples. You lost all debates here.
@michaelreichwein3970
@michaelreichwein3970 6 күн бұрын
@LGpi314 Look at your post... absolutely no proof that anyone did anything! But I do understand your lying! It's all you have to justify your disobedience to God. That is, after all, what you are! A liar and a sinner who refuses to turn from your sins!....
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 6 күн бұрын
@@michaelreichwein3970 Your post is nothing but hollow insults and baseless accusations because you have no real argument. You demand proof while offering none for your god or his supposed authority. Calling me a liar and a sinner doesn’t make you righteous; it makes you desperate. I won’t bow to a deity who, according to your own Bible, endorses genocide, slavery, and eternal torture. If disobedience to such a tyrant makes me wrong, then I’ll proudly stay “wrong.” Your tantrums don’t prove your god-they just expose how weak your position really is.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 6 күн бұрын
@@michaelreichwein3970 What did I lie about? Be specific. You and filmsenile are both in a child mindset and have not grown up out of it. I know logic and critical thinking skills are not for you. Failure of the education system is real. You are the proof.
@filmeseverin
@filmeseverin 6 күн бұрын
The serious and honest readers of my demonstrations (at least those posted over the last two days) cannot be deceived by the deniers without valid counter arguments. The entire evolution of the Universe has nothing against the truth about/from God/Jesus (many parts from the Bible being told metaphorically, not literally, at those times people not having enough knowledge scientifically, but now we can fully understand the metaphors used). For example, the dust from which Adam and Eve have been created is representing their material bodies (parts of this material world), God giving spirit to those material bodies. Eve made from Adam's rib is referring to the X chromosome from the XY. Therefore, Adam and Eve are representing the first hominids species chosen by God to place *the immortal spirits* (cast out from Heaven) and that is why Abel killed by Cain are representing the Neanderthals (Abel) extinct by the Homo Sapiens (Cain). People from many thousands of years ago, when Genesis was written, could not understand exactly (scientifically) how God has created everything, including their ancestors. By the way, God does not want to prove Himself to humans more than He already did, through the real prophets and mainly through His human form Jesus Christ, wanting to see our free choices/deeds, how much we love perfection (100% goodness, justice, pure love....) and how much we detest evilness = stupidity, but He still does it to those who really want to know the truth, as that professor is suggesting closer to the end of his testimony, "NDE- ATHEIST PROFESSOR (Berkeley Grad) dies, sees HELL! Best testimony EVER! Howard Storm Interview", because it worked in my case, not even knowing about his video when I asked from all my heart, in the most serious way for a sign to believe, then receiving the vision, which turned me from an atheist into a Christian.
@filmeseverin
@filmeseverin 6 күн бұрын
We are not perfect but we can strive for perfection, improving ourselves continuously, to not sin by doing our best to not do evil in every situation, to become as good, wise, saint as we can. This daily effort, in all our deeds, is appreciated by Divinity. All those who have truly loved goodness, wisdom, justice... perfection until the end of their earthly life, they actually loved (love) God/Jesus and it will be much more easier for them at the Last Judgment because they have sinned the least.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 6 күн бұрын
This is an incoherent mess of pseudo-science, selective reinterpretation, and unprovable claims disguised as intellectual reasoning. Let’s dismantle this nonsense point by point. Your attempt to reconcile the Bible with science by claiming its metaphors were simply too advanced for ancient readers is laughable. If your god is omnipotent and wanted to convey truth, he could have done so without resorting to riddles that conveniently align with modern discoveries only after science figures them out. The "dust" metaphor? That’s you backpedaling to make your creation myth seem less absurd. And your ludicrous Adam’s rib/X chromosome analogy? Biology doesn’t work that way. It’s a desperate attempt to cram outdated dogma into modern science, hoping no one notices the glaring contradictions. Claiming Adam and Eve are "representing" hominids and their spirits were "cast out from Heaven" is pure fiction. There is zero evidence to support such a claim, and trying to shoehorn evolutionary biology into your fable is both dishonest and scientifically illiterate. Abel as Neanderthals and Cain as Homo sapiens? That’s not only unsupported but also ignores actual archaeological and genetic evidence about interbreeding between these species. Your argument reads like bad fan fiction trying to retrofit mythology into science. The appeal to Near-Death Experiences (NDEs) is equally pathetic. Anecdotes like Howard Storm's "vision of hell" are unscientific, subjective accounts often influenced by cultural conditioning and neurological factors. Claiming a personal vision as proof of god is nothing but confirmation bias. People from other religions and cultures report wildly different NDEs-does that mean their gods are equally real? No, it means your "evidence" is as flimsy as your theology. Finally, your assertion that god doesn’t want to prove himself because he’s testing us is nothing more than an excuse for a conspicuously absent deity. If this god cared about "truth" or "justice," he wouldn’t rely on vague metaphors, unverifiable visions, or contradictory texts to communicate. A perfect being wouldn’t need to play these sadistic guessing games with humanity, watching us stumble through conflicting religions and scientific progress while punishing those who don’t believe. This isn’t divine truth-it’s an elaborate exercise in mental gymnastics to justify ancient myths that don’t hold up under scrutiny. Your argument is nothing but a testament to how far believers will stretch logic to protect their faith from collapsing under the weight of evidence and reason.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 6 күн бұрын
@@filmeseverin Striving for "perfection" under a god who is a genocidal monster is not only deluded but deeply immoral. Your god, if real, has committed genocide repeatedly throughout the Bible. He drowned the entire world in a flood, killing everyone except a handful of people. He commanded the slaughter of entire nations, including women and children, in wars that he ordered. The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah involved the death of countless innocent lives, all in the name of "righteousness." Your god has sanctioned the destruction of entire people groups, such as the Amalekites, where every man, woman, child, and animal was to be killed-because, apparently, they were all guilty of some imagined sin. Let’s not forget the Egyptian plagues, where god killed countless innocents just to prove a point to Pharaoh. The sheer volume of death and suffering that your god directly caused throughout history is staggering. These genocides aren't metaphorical-they're real, violent acts carried out by the very being you claim to worship. And yet, you want to claim that we can "strive for perfection" while following the example of a being who has allowed, if not directly caused, massive atrocities throughout history? How is this striving for goodness and wisdom when your god's actions set a horrific standard for moral behavior? If we are to "improve ourselves" and "become perfect," we should start by rejecting the glorification of a god who has committed genocide, cruelty, and devastation on an unimaginable scale. It’s beyond hypocritical to call for moral perfection while holding up a genocidal monster as the ultimate example of goodness.
@LGpi314
@LGpi314 6 күн бұрын
Why did god lie that Adam and Eve would die if they ate from the Tree of Knowledge? Why does god not want humans to have knowledge? Is it because when humans become knowledgeable they will know that there is no god. LMAO
@michaelreichwein3970
@michaelreichwein3970 5 күн бұрын
​​@@LGpi314again with the baseless assertions! Are you completely unable to demonstrate anything that you claim is true..?