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@plsniper
@plsniper 2 ай бұрын
Where would you land if you had an engine failure? :) This is like a single engine pilot's dream.
@LJDRVR
@LJDRVR 3 ай бұрын
Nice patter, but there's no reason not to reduce power all the way to idle when abeam. Your pattern is twice as far away from the runways as need be. If you had lost your motor during a good portion of that, you'd not have made the runway. And instead of practicing a power off turning and descending approach every landing, he or she will get to attempt in for the first time when it counts for real. Lastly, your turbojet-sized traffic pattern needlessly clogs up the flow of things. Not a good use of your student's time or that of the other airplanes who are attempting to use that airport but can't efficiently because of your giant patterns.
@ethansteele5246
@ethansteele5246 3 ай бұрын
Watching this while in the pattern 👍
@tonemag0516
@tonemag0516 4 ай бұрын
Buttery!
@adamr8628
@adamr8628 4 ай бұрын
It would be a good video if I could hear a single thing you're saying. Lol. Maybe need to find a way to isolate your microphone from the sound of the airplane
@donalddepew9605
@donalddepew9605 5 ай бұрын
I’m just a guidance system with 15000 hours total with 5000 hours of instruction given. I don’t know why instructors like this one make things like landing an airplane more complicated than it should be. Except for looking at the airspeed and the tachometer. All eyeballs should be looking outside at the runway numbers and the touchdown zone. Landing a Cherokee is no different than landing any other airplane. They’re all about the same.
@RoscoeMcGillicuddy
@RoscoeMcGillicuddy 10 ай бұрын
This is so helpful. Forgetting how to land is a thing, but videos like this help with that. Thank you!
@BenjaminGatti
@BenjaminGatti 10 ай бұрын
I love me a how to. With engine rpm, but no airspeed. How to this is not.
@Hillman1967
@Hillman1967 Жыл бұрын
Very well instructed.
@JamesSheppard-wk3qb
@JamesSheppard-wk3qb 10 ай бұрын
PHEW! I'm planning on taking flying lessons soon and this vid was very interesting and makes me realize that I really have to concentrate and PAY ATTENTION!! I know one thing already-gonna be more difficult than learning how to drive a motorcycle, ha!! To all fly and drive safe! Pray for me; I'll pray for you!! God bless and thanks!! Oh yea, maybe It'll help if I get and start using president!!! (:
@JamesSheppard-wk3qb
@JamesSheppard-wk3qb 10 ай бұрын
Already replied...the last thing I mentioned was using president; I meant PREVIDENT. Sigh, looks like the instructor has his/her work cut out , ha!!
@TomCook1993
@TomCook1993 Жыл бұрын
the good old Crookston Warrior
@SuperGemma2010
@SuperGemma2010 Жыл бұрын
what about carb heat
@Dwarfeus
@Dwarfeus Жыл бұрын
As far as I've been taught so far, it's less vital in a piper than it is in say a Skyhawk. But then again I'm in Houston. I'd have to review to POH to make sure it's not a deviation in what my various CFIs have told me but in the 161 anyway carb heat is as needed by temp rather than a standard use in landing procedure.
@איתיגיא-ח3ע
@איתיגיא-ח3ע Жыл бұрын
Final speed too slow for my taste, I wouldn't go below 70 until I know that I can reach the runway without power. it U had a small wind sheer , you would have been in a bad spot.
@BobbyBattista
@BobbyBattista Жыл бұрын
This is a great video, could someone add subtitles? It's a little hard to hear, but the instruction is really great
@adamstenning4895
@adamstenning4895 2 жыл бұрын
Im a flight instructor now and I recall watching this video just about every night when learning how to land.
@arnelandrada5089
@arnelandrada5089 2 жыл бұрын
The same technique works perfectly for the Archer! Actually, even for the Skyhawks. 😊
@lukaritchie973
@lukaritchie973 2 жыл бұрын
Only problem is flaps are powerful so you need a lot of trim on landing flaps
@UrPilotNatt
@UrPilotNatt 2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to fly this plane for my training! I don't agree with cutting to idle though. I prefer flying the plane into the runway and cutting power after touchdown. It's a good habit to get into and the landings are smooth 😗
@kgraebes88
@kgraebes88 2 жыл бұрын
im curious on your thoughts, I Always idle in the warrior, but of course it all depends on your W&B. perhaps you may feel differently when the CFI isnt there to weigh you down? ;) Stay safe!
@taxiviaalfa
@taxiviaalfa 2 жыл бұрын
As a student pilot on the Warrior, my CFI always drills it into me to always cut the power to idle on touchdown and just let the plane kiss the ground when it's ready.
@kgraebes88
@kgraebes88 2 жыл бұрын
@@taxiviaalfa same here as well.
@IslandSimPilot
@IslandSimPilot 2 жыл бұрын
That's definitely a minority viewpoint.The whole point of landing is to stop flying. Keeping the power in has no obvious advantage, so I'm not sure what the point is.
@jaimesy27
@jaimesy27 Жыл бұрын
Was so bumpy, my last lesson. We needed to land with full power!! Definite improvisation. Otherwise go for idle!
@alqumran5379
@alqumran5379 2 жыл бұрын
By gee your making hard work off it. The PA28 Cherokee is a very smooth aircraft to fly and especially to land. The approach is 75kts all the way in at 1500 rpm. You as a pilot. Remember the name pilot, gentle put the aircraft into the left base leg position and the rest is all rudder and yoke. 65kts is what we are looking for. The PA28 has enormous amounts of elevator power right don't to 45 kts. Do remember that the trim wheel settings must be set for each part of the procedure. The PA28 also has great elevator power at 45 to 50kts, which allows you to put the main wheels on and slowly let the nose wheel settle to the tarmac. Do learn the formula. It's vital to understand for private and commercial pilots i.e.., CLHALFEROWVSQUAREDS
@apprentice_pleb
@apprentice_pleb 2 жыл бұрын
Have you drilled holes in your exhaust pipe
@tw175
@tw175 2 жыл бұрын
No I have not. Let me know how that works for you. 😁
@stephanfiebich1561
@stephanfiebich1561 3 жыл бұрын
Still flying my 1969 140 and have always maintained 80 mph until crossing the fence .
@AV4Life
@AV4Life 3 жыл бұрын
Normal civilian patterns look like luxury compared to the tight military patterns they have us doing at KAFF. Awesome landing though!!
@daveblevins3322
@daveblevins3322 3 жыл бұрын
Well done 👍🇺🇸
@justicegusting2476
@justicegusting2476 3 жыл бұрын
I drove a Piper to the Grand Canyon airport once. Worst landing of my life. I was porpoising down the runway so bad, when I finally got it on the ground for good, the guy in the tower came over the radio and asked me if everything was alright. Embarrassing. I think low-wing ground effect and a too-fast landing speed contributed to that PIO.
@martinleicht5911
@martinleicht5911 3 жыл бұрын
Never flew a Warrior,thanx for the info !! 🍺 😎 👍
@dieselteen0770
@dieselteen0770 3 жыл бұрын
If there were little chains for this type of terrain for RC cars
@scoobydooo4390
@scoobydooo4390 3 жыл бұрын
65 knots on approach is hell of a slow. When training, (OK in the 1980s) in Warriors, Cruisers, Cherokees etc. We were taught to reduce RPM to 1700/1800 and apply carb heat, as the speed decayed to 80 Knots, drop 1st stage of flap an let the nose drop to begin the decent at hopefully 3 Degrees, on turning final, Trim, Full flap, final trim, holding 80 Knots using power and as you cross the threshold start reducing power and raise the nose and let the speed decay to touch down (hopefully) on the numbers at about 40-45 Knots with the stall warning peeping.....I wouldn't want to reduce speed to 65 K at 1000 ft...
@evankirkpatrick8741
@evankirkpatrick8741 2 жыл бұрын
I keep the Archer at 80 mph all the to the runway lol. Couldn’t imagine going down to 65 mph like some do
@mrcolincox
@mrcolincox 2 жыл бұрын
I've been learning circuit patterns in a PA28, all throughout I've been told it's 65kts for landing. That's the problem with learning to fly, just no consistency from CFI to CFI.
@ronnieandpatriciamackinnon4958
@ronnieandpatriciamackinnon4958 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrcolincox it is 65 kts.. which is 75 mph... 65 mph only short field,calm air conditions...
@taxiviaalfa
@taxiviaalfa 2 жыл бұрын
I am a student in the Warrior and my CFI tells me to look for 63 kts as the final approach speed and 70 as the initial approach speed 🤷
@joaquinlixo5608
@joaquinlixo5608 2 жыл бұрын
For me is 80kias no flap, 75 first notch, 70 second notch and 65 for full flap
@owenjc9132
@owenjc9132 3 жыл бұрын
The PA 28 is my favourite light aircraft.
@imnorookiecowboypt2347
@imnorookiecowboypt2347 3 жыл бұрын
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@billdill6715
@billdill6715 3 жыл бұрын
It’s simple, a little back pressure on the yoke, cut the power, flair, and drop the last 10 feet. Send your spine through the top of your head. Goooood times!!! Landing is nothing more than a controlled crash.
@lefthandedfenceguy4924
@lefthandedfenceguy4924 3 жыл бұрын
I train in a Warrior. In fact, I'm meeting up with my instructor this evening to go again! Good stuff!
@tw175
@tw175 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you had a great time.
@Piggypongtheavgeek
@Piggypongtheavgeek 2 ай бұрын
Same
@bigtaxrefund
@bigtaxrefund 3 жыл бұрын
landed a little to the right but it was a perfect flair.
@vrendus522
@vrendus522 3 жыл бұрын
Took a lesson in a low wing Brave, once. Thanks for the take along.
@tw175
@tw175 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@joenenninger971
@joenenninger971 3 жыл бұрын
Love me some ground effect!!
@chikokishi7030
@chikokishi7030 3 жыл бұрын
To everyone saying the audio is bad... I can hear it just fine. If you cant hear it, likely you dont know what to expect to hear. This is a good refresher
@MabrysDad
@MabrysDad 3 жыл бұрын
Look at my acorn, look at my acorn, look at my airspeed. Look at my acorn, look at my acorn, look at my airspeed.
@MabrysDad
@MabrysDad 3 жыл бұрын
Wish I knew what you were saying.......
@bmatt2626
@bmatt2626 3 жыл бұрын
@@MabrysDad I believe he's saying "aim point"
@MabrysDad
@MabrysDad 3 жыл бұрын
I’m doing a discovery flight in a Warrior tomorrow. Wish I could hear what all you were saying. Sure would have been helpful. 😠
@tw175
@tw175 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you enjoy your Discovery flight!
@lordcraycray2921
@lordcraycray2921 3 жыл бұрын
How did it go??
@alir3953
@alir3953 3 жыл бұрын
i love it.
@richsarchet9762
@richsarchet9762 3 жыл бұрын
My narration includes a gear check over the fence, even when it is welded down. Otherwise it sounds very similar.
@csn6234
@csn6234 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. You took a dump and returned to your seat, where your wife was sitting next to you. You must be very proud of yourself.
@anthony989utube
@anthony989utube 3 жыл бұрын
nice one. no carb heat or trim?
@tw175
@tw175 3 жыл бұрын
No need
@lordcraycray2921
@lordcraycray2921 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. While Cessnas use the same engine and require carb heat, the Piper does not require it except pretty much at extended idle (short field)
@taxiviaalfa
@taxiviaalfa 2 жыл бұрын
The Warrior doesn't require carb heat
@crypton7800
@crypton7800 3 жыл бұрын
Why did u even film that?
@pubgprince5618
@pubgprince5618 3 жыл бұрын
Fr
@tw175
@tw175 3 жыл бұрын
filmed this to try out a new camera at the time... glad you enjoyed it.
@RandyBroderick
@RandyBroderick 3 жыл бұрын
Did you make any radio calls? I couldn't hear them if you did
@tw175
@tw175 3 жыл бұрын
No we did not but should have. This video was quickly made using the mic from the iPhone11 so the audio is not the greatest.
@Docinaplane
@Docinaplane 3 жыл бұрын
Flying is the second greatest thrill known! Landing is the first!!
@uscplaya69
@uscplaya69 3 жыл бұрын
I flared too high. Hard landing. First time.
@abdalabinladen
@abdalabinladen 3 жыл бұрын
Second only to crushing your enemies, have them driven before you and to hear the lamentations of their women...
@justicegusting2476
@justicegusting2476 3 жыл бұрын
One is like threading a needle and the other is like pulling that thread out.
@taxiviaalfa
@taxiviaalfa 2 жыл бұрын
@@uscplaya69 I have landed twice and both of mine were hard landings lol
@uscplaya69
@uscplaya69 2 жыл бұрын
@@taxiviaalfa keep at it! Last time I trained I nailed every landing in every config. W slight crosswind. If I can get there anyone can!
@thierrysulser1879
@thierrysulser1879 3 жыл бұрын
Why no carb heat? Should be pulled off in short final.
@Chrisovideos
@Chrisovideos 3 жыл бұрын
Unlike in a Cessna, the carb heat in a Piper low wing is listed in the POH as "Only when needed". Piper figures (in the POH) that the risk of icing is less than the risk of leaving it on and not having full power on a missed approach. The intake air in a Piper is purposely routed through the oil system so it already gets warmed prior to the carburetor. On warm humid summer days (best opportunity for carb icing) I often turn the carb heat on on the downwind but turn it off before turning base. In the winter the only time it gets turned on is during the runup. My two cents worth...
@arturo468
@arturo468 3 жыл бұрын
Why would you not use QFE in the circuit to show zero feet upon landing?
@paulwilliams5296
@paulwilliams5296 3 жыл бұрын
When I was learning back in 2003 I was always told to use QFE in the circuit, our airfield was around 350 ft above sea level.
@GuardedDragon
@GuardedDragon 2 жыл бұрын
The States don't do QFE, neither does Canada.
@bikeguy3034
@bikeguy3034 2 жыл бұрын
Why would you not just land using QNH like you would at any other airport you would be flying to and just keep the whole process standard.
@Flyboyed
@Flyboyed 3 жыл бұрын
Niiice landing!
@spitfirekid1
@spitfirekid1 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Warrior!
@bwagenberg
@bwagenberg 3 жыл бұрын
Please do a video on making videos where you can clearly hear the naration. Terrible!
@canconservative8976
@canconservative8976 3 жыл бұрын
Too low.... if you lost power you would not have made the runway...
@seanbornschlegl
@seanbornschlegl 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know how I stumbled on this video but I got a lot of fun memories in the plane. I’m a student at UND but I take up 416RP with friends for fun. Just this summer we took her to moose lake to pickup a puppy my friend bought and got my first $100 hamburger. Love this plane!