This was a great video ,very truthful and hit on some important points, I don’t think any of these modelers , Helix , Fractal FM 9 Quad Cortex , Fender Mustang Pro can really hold up to heavy gigging , but I think they have their place , and I don’t think pedals / pedalboards will ever go out of style , There’s just something nerdy cool about pedals and finding your own sound, it’s very personal,and although I think modelers have come a long way,I still find the overdrives a little fizzy like you mentioned their 95% there, but I can hear the 5% difference , anyway I love Helix but i also have always had a minimalistic pedalboard 5 pedals at the moment, it’s all I need , so anyway thanks again for a wonderful review , and subscribed ! 👍

Great review! Subscribed and definitely going to check out your other content. What’s the name of the tune you’re playing-I’ve definitely heard it and know it but am drawing a blank. Thanks

$500 final offer. take or leave bro

Where did you purchase the Suhr

Had mine for 6 years now and still love it. I use it 4CM with my custom Anderson 20/45 amp and it replaced a $3000 pedalboard. 4CM is the only way to go live. And the newest 3.70 update sounds as good as anything ever released.

Your comment reminds me about Matthew 13:44 ESV “The kingdom of heaven is like treasure hidden in a field, which a man found and covered up. Then in his joy he goes and sells all that he has and buys that field. GOD BLESS You brother

I think Teles sound better than Strats....at 62 (playing off/on since 9)....I rediscovered the Tele last year and have acquired or reacquired 7 of them. My dream is the Suhr you have...need to sell a few humbucking beauties that I seldom play thanks to my Tele fetish.

NICE!

I have a helix and gigged with it and I’m in the same boat. I’m rebuying traditional pedals, and I’m obsessed with my toneking amp. I won’t get rid of my helix though.

I had have a Helix Floor and played with L2 wedges. I'm really understanding the function and all that stuff around, the routing, midi and so on. I've got never a really satisfying sound near to my miced amp sound in my head. For the knob things and the danger of fluid issues on a gig, I've changed to the rack version with the foot controller and gave the Helix a new chance. I've used the Helix only for effects and as switcher in my rack with rack preamps and a stereo power amp. After a while I've changed only to rack preamps plus power amps and the UAD Stomp for direct to the FOH. My thoughts about the Helix: A very good idea, some good stuff inside but for me not really practicable or not necessary... I'm back to my old stuff.

Thanks for the honest review they're hard to come by

A most interesting and informative video, and beautifully done. Congratulations, and thanks.

I bought boss gt1000 as soon as it came to India. The Indian version has no Bluetooth and I did not like any preset. I have to make my patch. Should I buy helix

Oh my Grosh

Both tube and solid state amps +real guitar cabs beat modeling all day long

Very thoughtful advice from a gigging musician on the Line 6 Helix. I am surprised to hear of the durability issues--gives me a LOT of pause. Thank you for sharing.

Great video

PS. Ofc you have your own sound. Stand tall and kick more ass. Thinking too much regarding certain things is contra productive. Merry Christmas!

Really enjoyed this video. I am old now, so have seen the evolution. Amazing times to be a guitar player. I still have a bunch of tube amps, but also a few cheapo digital boxes of magic. Never settle for less than what you hear in your head :)

You think a lot, brother. I can dig it. Subbed!

Cool post! Thanks for the share!

how much do u wanting for it ??

My amazing wife found what was probably the very last one in the US for sale the week before Christmas in 2016, and put it under the tree for me. So I’ve been an amazed Helix user for many years now. It is hands down the best piece of gear I’ve ever used and I’ve not touched my pedalboard since. Each update has made it better and better, and every single one has been FREE. How ridiculous is that? Every time they update the firmware it’s like Christmas again as you get all these new features and sounds to test and incorporate into your rig. Can your pedalboard do snapshots, where you can alter the settings of all your pedals several times in the course of one song all without having to take your hands off your guitar? No, it can’t, only the Helix can. Can you control any aspect of any pedal on your board with your expression pedal? No, but you can with a Helix. If you use a large and complex pedalboard you know the issues that can create (mystery hum, capacitance buildup that can cause tone suck, pedal failure causing your whole rig to go silent until you find and fix the problem, etc) the Helix fixes or eliminates all these issues. In the rare event that you have a problem with your Helix, as a backup, you can easily deploy a laptop running Helix native with all your patches and sounds loaded and ready to go. That’s for a very casual gigging musician. If, like this gentleman, playing music is your main way of making a living, then investing in a backup Helix rig is a VERY LOW COST way of making sure that your rig doesn’t cause a problem during a gig. Compare the cost of a used Helix with the cost of a backup amp and pedalboard. It’s not even close. And if you think you can hear a difference in your tone in a live setting, you’re lying to yourself. One day (maybe soon) they will announce a replacement for the Helix, but until that day there’s nothing better for a gigging guitarist than owning and playing a Helix.

If something drops on the Helix and turns a knob, all you need to do is change the preset and back again, the accidental change is gone. On the contrary, the traditional pedalboard is a nightmare for accidental changes. Even if you write down all your settings, or even take pictures, it seems like you never can get back to where you were

I went hybrid. Got an HX Stomp to go onto my board. I have a lot of amp-less gigs (worship mainly) and a few not ampless gigs (cover band stuff) so I still needed some core functions with amps/cabs/IR’s and if I needed a specific effect I could add it. If the effect didn’t sound great then I would look to pedals. I’ve had essentially the same configuration for years minus a few swaps. A few good OD pedals and comp in the front, dedicated tuner, delay/reverb in the loop. I have settings for playing with my amp, settings for going amp-less and anything in between.

Super helpful review. Thanks!

Tryina watch some guitartube and I got a history lesson lmao. But I find the "wrangling the note out" thing to be the greatest part about a tele- not that any suhr is hard to play, but that a tele is just inconvenient enough to make playing more deliberate than something more intentionally designed to be comfortable, and therein lies the charm. Both sick guitars congrats, my modern satin flame is my #1, its never been safer for me to go to a guitar store, since for years I've been more happy to come home and play my own.

Have you spent much time with the Suhr modern models? Curious about your thoughts if so

Wow....not what I expected!

Wow. Awesome! Thank you!

I understand exactly what you’re talking about. I keep mine for the practicality mostly. My biggest complaint is about the footswitches, I have mine for 5 years now and I had several switches replaced twice, and I need to have done it again. I spoke with Line 6 over the phone and they are aware of the problem, but nothing has changed….I’ll keep my for now, but my eyes and ears are open for something more reliable.

Thank you for the review ! Love the wood knowledge nuggets !!

No lock setting to keep a sound? Hmm, that would suck, like fighting your computer when you have a project due. Great vid, very informative! I think the “modeling”, since synthetic, just doesn’t have to unknown, the ghost notes, the “magic notes, tones or sounds” that come out magically…I wonder?

I'd prefer the portability but the issue is most multi effects processors aren't as robust as the old pedals. Honestly, I'd bare with processors

You sound like a car guy who enjoys points and carbs with a manual vs a tesla. The tesla blows the doors off of any old carb car in every way, but it lacks soul and HMI that really connects you with the machine. Ive always enjoyed multifx unit, back in the late 90s. Those were so hard to program, omg you wanna invest time to tweak, try those. Good introspection. Nice to hear your subjective view and actually know why you may feel that way. Ive gone back and forth thru the decades with all tube and analog to digital. The helix is like getting a smart phone after carrying an old slr, flip phone, audio recorder, etc.

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When you digitize your tone it's going to remove your natural tone with your fingers, attack, dynamics everything. Analog pedals with either solid state or tube amps pulls more of of your natural ability into your playing. Basically to point digital is a crutch in the fact it can make a mediocre player sound more advanced if you will. Pro players just shine no matter what they play through, Joe Satriani sounds like Satriani wither he plays on a AXE FXIII or a little $50 solid state room amp. I've been playing guitar since 1979 toured professionally and hung out with many a cool musicians, yea I know I'm an old fart boomer. Live music is always going to sound better to the human ear with pedals, analog, solid state and tube. This goes back to the debate I've had with some musicians who don't want to mic amps and use large front monitors, they want ear monitors and have moved studio digital to a "live" play setting. I've always maintained why would fans and audience want to hear the music like you're in the studio? It's not natural old school "live" play where you feel the pressure of the sonic waves pushing into you on stage and projecting that power outwards.

I'm surprised the T has a thicker neck than your S. I have both a Paulownia T (same color) and S and the T is definitely thinner. And thanks for the history/info of the Paulownia tree, very cool :)

I just made the switch to helix. I got tired of lugging my mesa boogie fillmore to gigs running my pedalboard, mic it up....plus I setup the pa & run the FOH sound....helix I can setup in 5 minutes and it helps cut our stage volume.... I really love a tube amp but most gigs I play are small/medium sized and volume control is an issue....we actually get a ton of gigs because we don't play super loud

I bought a trans white class T a few weeks ago....my 1st Suhr....I loved it so much I bought a flame maple top in trans black😂😂😂 I looooove telecasters but these Suhr guitars are on a whole new level! I played my 1st gig with it last weekend and it's definitely an amazing sounding guitar! Great video btw....I really enjoyed the info about the paulowina tree, very cool

I went back to amps. Inside my head I felt like like I was in the Hells Angels riding a Honda with the modeler. Sounded good but didn't have that inspiring feeling to it. Even if it's just a mental thing it still hinders the inspired artist in me.

Love the review!

Hola, domador de peces. Me encanta la música. ¿Podrías enseñarle a KZbin cómo tocar la rueda del vagón?

Nice tone

i don't gig anymore but i used the line6 floorpod. we needed to achieve a very small footprint for many gigs and our variety of music really required something like a floor pod. But... one gig something broke on my floor pod at a very important gig. because i was the only guitar player it shut down the gig right there since we were all direct and i didn't run an amp. it ment buying and extra one and making sure it was programmed identical to the main one they are affordable so no big deal but the helix....holy crap 3200 for 2 just so i have a backup. Nothing i will be doing unless i win the lotto.

Agree brother. Great at Church and perhaps some inside venues but after dragging this thing around for about a year doing some outside festivals and other shows it became obvious this wasn't going to last. Get a decent pedal board, set it up and rock on......

I’m like 100% the opposite of this. The Helix has been an absolute beast, and I’ve found I’m spending a ton more time just experimenting with different effects. It’s unbelievably easy to swap around the order of the pedals and flip back and forth to see how things fit. Sounds to me like you just don’t take care of your stuff because my Helix has been used and lugged around everyday, hours a day, for years, and it’s as good as the day I bought it. I suspect you were also thinking you were at 95% of the tone you wanted when you had pedals, and you thus kept buying pedals to get that extra 5%. I think it’s just in your head and you’re blaming your equipment for your own shortcomings as a player.

I’m not moving on. I love using it. Plus I just deal with what I got, I don’t gas. It’s not worth throw continuous money at guitar gear

Ehh ,, keep this song pure