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@user-qh9cz5xo7jkeithkucera
@user-qh9cz5xo7jkeithkucera 4 күн бұрын
I now believe that billy the kid , killed the man that murdered garrett . Period . Because pat and billy were practically family and that they were with the gutierrez sisters , is why you will not find celsa gutierrez after july 14 1881 , they probably ran off together but she died from some unknown reason in the 1880s and is rumored to be buried in los cruces where billy lived in the late 1890s
@TexanUSMC8089
@TexanUSMC8089 5 күн бұрын
I have no way to say for a fact that Brushy Bill is or is not Billy the Kid. BIlly was born William Henry Roberts. His father was killed in the Civil War, and then his mother died when he was three. He was then adopted by Catherine Bonney. That's why he was called Billy Bonney. It's interesting that Brushy BIll's name was also William Henry Roberts. The two deputies that were with Pat Garrett said years later that Pat did not shoot Billy. They said he shot a man who looked nothing like Billy. They said the man shot by Pat had black hair, a mustache, and was possibly Hispanic. They said it wasn't the first time Pat shot a man in the dark. That was how he also shot Dave.
@4TruthsSake
@4TruthsSake 15 күн бұрын
I believe Brushy Bill…
@user-qh9cz5xo7jkeithkucera
@user-qh9cz5xo7jkeithkucera 20 күн бұрын
I have enough evidence now , that it's too overwhelming , brushy bill roberts was indeed Billy the kid . I found all the key evidence on my own , nobody told me , I know he was the kid .
@Pete-if2lz
@Pete-if2lz Ай бұрын
D.N.A bone test brushy bill and cathrine mccartys living relatives and prove it then
@Louis76-z3i
@Louis76-z3i Ай бұрын
Young Guns 3 coming soon
@paddingtonlaw2491
@paddingtonlaw2491 Ай бұрын
Love the video, thanks for the post! However, I find it difficult to believe as bold and well known as Billy was that he would voluntarily vanish into obscurity. But, anything is possible.
@BossHossStudios
@BossHossStudios Ай бұрын
DNA don’t lie though. Your 1990 facial recognition doesn’t hold water to today’s facial recognition. Bill could have read Pat Garrett’s book and learned details about Pete Maxwells house and other details.
@heathersmith5420
@heathersmith5420 2 ай бұрын
I don’t think that as Billy the Kid aged, he developed a dimple in his chin and his earlobes become attached to his head. Not much faith in those who analyzed the results of that fancy software.
@matthewortiz7223
@matthewortiz7223 2 ай бұрын
I agree with you 1000 percent they won't admit it cause history would be wrong...
@michaelhowley9996
@michaelhowley9996 2 ай бұрын
This is the first I've heard about a positive facial match between Bushy Bill and The Kid. There was a televised attempt to match them that failed on all points
@888FreshwaterJesusdeChrist
@888FreshwaterJesusdeChrist 3 ай бұрын
Jesse James, was not killed either. He too lived inder another alias.
@genelandry5785
@genelandry5785 3 ай бұрын
Without digging up the body to do dna, nobody will ever know, hell nobody knows were Billys body is anyway,
@brockmitchell3989
@brockmitchell3989 3 ай бұрын
0:45 I agree that Brushy Bill Roberts was telling the truth about being Billy the Kid. From everything I have read when researching Brushy Bill Roberts knew too many details about different circumstances as well as the original setup of the jailhouse he was kept in that no one else was even aware of. The facial recognition also seems very accurate. He lived an interesting life. I have the "Pat Garrett" book about Billy the Kid and from what I have read it seems obvious the book embellishes a lot and is a total fabrication. Pat Garrett's behavior also seems to indicate he knew he had not actually killed Billy the Kid. Billy had a Hispanic friend close to his own age who could pass as a Hispanic version of Billy. In fact one newspaper report from the Pat Garrett shooting of "Billy" said the body looked like Billy was disguised as a Mexican when the body was looked at by those present. They even said he had darkened his skin from the looks of it. Funny how Billy's Hispanic friend fits the description. I believe Pat Garrett lied to cover up his mistake and was too prideful to admit it, so to save face he just claimed Billy's Hispanic friend that Pat Shot was Billy and is why they did not take any pictures of the body after the killing. Brushy Bill Roberts had knowledge about Billy that only Billy could have had from first hand experience. Billy the Kid was done dirty by the New Mexico governor back in the late 1800's when the governor did not fulfill his word of giving Billy a pardon. They wanted to make an example of him plain and simple. That is why he tried again as an old man to get the then current New Mexico governor to give him his pardon he was promised, but instead they used it as a way to humiliate an old man. They did him wrong both times about his pardon. I am convinced Brushy Bill Roberts was Billy the Kid and not a fake.
@yionnecantu
@yionnecantu 3 ай бұрын
Pat Garrett was a big liar, he was known for it. Pat and Billy knew one another, but they weren't close whatsoever. Just know associates.
@bradbradshaw-i4n
@bradbradshaw-i4n 3 ай бұрын
this is all a bunch of crap.
@user-sb1vz9pv5y
@user-sb1vz9pv5y 3 ай бұрын
Comiskey wasn't cheap. The White Sox had one of the highest team salaries in the league. The gamnblers didn't go to the the players. The players went to the gamblers. The players were just greedy. We want to blame everyone else but it was without a doubt the players own fault. Too many people rely on the book Eight Men Out. The author only had the information available at the time and made some things up. Lefty Williams was never threatened with the death of his wife.
@michaelwurm5288
@michaelwurm5288 3 ай бұрын
None of what you are saying is true. Brushy Bill was discredited and the guys who did the photo review said that they never at any point said it was Bill the Kid. Also, read the book about the death of Billy the Kid. You are taking the comment of "you killed the wrong man" out of context. You also are not speaking of the jury of residents who confirmed it was Billy. Maxwell also maintained it was Billy. This is VERY poorly researched. Do better!
@gregrickard-x7r
@gregrickard-x7r 3 ай бұрын
It doesn't require much research to shoot down (pardon the pun) the Brushy Bill nonsense. Serious researchers and scholars have put the matter to rest. There has been so much misinformation circulating about Roberts and his absurd claim to be the Kid, thanks to the film Young Guns 2, and videos such as this one. For example, the 93% DNA result mentioned in the video has somehow been mistaken with the 93% chance of Roberts and Billy the Kid's faces matching in a wildly inaccurate and biased facial recognition procedure---one of several undertaken in the last few decades. Too many gullible people continue to fall for incoherent ramblings that Roberts, coached by Morrison, uttered into a tape recorder---the latter editing (correcting) the "recollections" before committing them to written form. And wouldn't you know it, Morrison refused to make the recordings public. Go figure. As I said earlier, finding out the real story of Billy the Kid isn't a laborious chore: do a little searching. There are plenty of books on the famous outlaw's life and a few by authors who painstakingly researched the Brushy Bill hoax, publishing their factual and well-documented results.
@stevemitchell238
@stevemitchell238 4 ай бұрын
billy the kid was not killed by pat he was William best friend they has a closed casket billy moved to California and lived a quit life
@downside1237
@downside1237 4 ай бұрын
Billy, the kid died. Billy the kid survived back in 1881. Fast forward 2024. Billy the Kid is as dead as Julius Ceaser. What's up with all the fuss?
@DarkwaveDave
@DarkwaveDave 4 ай бұрын
Black Sox 💸
@SmokeyGarrett
@SmokeyGarrett 4 ай бұрын
Garrett's don't kill friends
@richardpierce7819
@richardpierce7819 5 ай бұрын
I believed that Brushy Bill was Billy the kid. He just knew to much that was never published in any book or paper .
@ziggyblue782
@ziggyblue782 5 ай бұрын
As unfortunate as it is, Billy the Kid was absolutely killed by Pat. Bad as I hate to admit it. I live in his old stomping grounds and have been a fan since I was a kid. I wish he escaped but it didn’t happen. Also, even the slightest amount of research, you’d see that Brushy Bill Robert’s was and had always been a pathological liar. Long before he “came out” as BTK. Him trying to assume somebody else’s identity was not rare.
@stronkie
@stronkie 5 ай бұрын
A lot of blablablabla not enough pictures , only see you talking... this is not helpfull , need proof , not you only talking mate
@CherokeeBird
@CherokeeBird 5 ай бұрын
Brushy Bill could not speak Spanish, nor read or write. Billy could.
@roadhog-so8en
@roadhog-so8en 3 ай бұрын
He could speak fluent spanish.
@FrankyTempels
@FrankyTempels 5 ай бұрын
Pat garrett ,killid the kid ,to make his name .
@houdennyhoudenny6777
@houdennyhoudenny6777 5 ай бұрын
This is old old garbage. Keep up people. Brushy Bill has been scientifically proven to be a fraud long ago. People sure do want this Bill story to be true. ITS BEEN PROVEN A HOAX. NOW GET OVER IT!
@EvanWhite-xq6ht
@EvanWhite-xq6ht 5 ай бұрын
Grant was a drunk & a Butcher A horrible president as well
@EvanWhite-xq6ht
@EvanWhite-xq6ht 5 ай бұрын
Bill Roberts was fraud I absolutely believe that Garrett lied about killing Billy the Kid.
@randallcampbell510
@randallcampbell510 5 ай бұрын
No! He did not. You fucking people just aggravate the shit out of me. There are trained historians that have tracked this for 50 years. And you come along to generate a few clicks. OH MT God, Billy is alive and he's hanging out with Elvis at the slurpy shop. Grow up bitch. This should get you a few of your precious clicks, then go jack off in your momma basement. Because we all know thats where you real satisfaction in life lives. Moron.
@alexistrebexis3195
@alexistrebexis3195 5 ай бұрын
Wow, when people wanna believe something, they REALLY set aside all logic huh? This is so ridiculous.
@alexistrebexis3195
@alexistrebexis3195 5 ай бұрын
Proof huh? Will you guys give it up? This is seriously nonsense. Anyone can tell brushy bill was NOT Billy the kid. Watch the videos proving he’s not. They’re a lot more convincing than this crap. No facial recognition technology ever even came close to confirming they were the same. That’s such a lie. Find actual proof of that. Not just people like this guy saying it. You people just want to believe!
@morganspector5161
@morganspector5161 5 ай бұрын
Truly an event which can only be reconstructed by "circumstantial evidence", i.e., we have to use reasonable inference to figure out what most likely happened. It's no accident that most of the discussion swirls around Joe Jackson, an unsophisticated and illiterate player who was around the edges of the circle of players who were actually involved but by all testimony was never involved in any of the planning nor met any of the gamblers. I believe Jackson did get an envelope with $5,000 but also believe he was probably not clear what it meant; to him he was getting a piece of some money that was being handed around. His performance in the Series compellingly weighs against his having any part of "throwing" the Series. After being found "not guilty" at trial (meaning only that the prosecution had not proved "guilt beyond a reasonable doubt", not that any were truly "innocent". So Landis stepped in with the opportunity to assert his authority and his standards, and banned Jackson because "he knew about the scheme but did not tell anybody about it." I think Landis overreached, though under the circumstances I can understand it. Nonetheless, in an era when MLB is including stats of Negro League players in overall MLB stats, and the NCAA has returned Reggie Bush's Heisman in view of all the changes in paying college football players, there is clearly room to go back and correct the overreach. And no, it has nothing to do with whether Pete Rose should be in the HOF. This is about Joe Jackson. Period.
@Aging2day
@Aging2day 5 ай бұрын
Facial recognition convinced me.
@WyattEarp-dd9oh
@WyattEarp-dd9oh 6 ай бұрын
Your definitely not American if you cant see dead gunslingers from the old frontier
@gmweaver2417
@gmweaver2417 6 ай бұрын
your headlines says "proof"...sounds like more "hearsay"...however...we'll never really know for certain...sorry it wasn't even entertaining but...to each his own beliefs.
@ShaneSkaalerud-nk2jk
@ShaneSkaalerud-nk2jk 6 ай бұрын
What if he was helping Billy the kid by lying in the book?
@patriciabeller64
@patriciabeller64 6 ай бұрын
I'm with you on this!
@MikePetett
@MikePetett 6 ай бұрын
My family knew Brushy Bill and I'd like to thank you for keeping this story alive
@EattheApple666
@EattheApple666 6 ай бұрын
Found this 4yrs late but great video. You got my interest to know burning. Thanks.
@stevesanders3958
@stevesanders3958 6 ай бұрын
He cannot have 71yrs old in 1950, He must have been 91......The photo isnt of a 90yr old man...
@TheRoswellKid
@TheRoswellKid 6 ай бұрын
Th 14 July 1881: French Independence Day; The Kid high-tailed it out of there that night, after Pat Garrett ambushed Billy Barlow; The Kid rode out of it, to who knows where; anywhere but there😳👀😬🌎🇺🇸💯.
@BoydHeath-fu3fi
@BoydHeath-fu3fi 6 ай бұрын
Did Pat Garrett really shoot Billy? Beats me. Well, there's a 99.9998 % chance that he DID. But that's not A HUNDRED. However, if Billy did live past July 14,1881, he was NOT 'Brushy Bill' Roberts.
@MrRaymond1021
@MrRaymond1021 6 ай бұрын
It's like the lie how they want us to believe that Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK. It's bullshit, and they're still teaching that in school's across America. Those that really studied it knows who really did it. In fact , the person who killed JFK is in video at the time it happened. I've always believed that brushy bill Roberts was the person he said he was. I'm not one that can be convinced easily but he definitely got my attention. Thanks for sharing 👍👍👍
@robertwilliamson2596
@robertwilliamson2596 6 ай бұрын
I really believe he did not kill Billy the kid
@kevinpurcell7452
@kevinpurcell7452 6 ай бұрын
Brushy bill was BS...he was con man and snake oil salesman that would spin a tale for anyone that would listen. Billy died an old man on a place near Cache Creek west of Fort Sill. After years of working on a big ranch along Rainy Mountain Creek about 40 miles north.
@larrybridges4545
@larrybridges4545 6 ай бұрын
The slant of the eyes, the ears, the chin, close but no cigar
@SerialAnkleBiter
@SerialAnkleBiter 6 ай бұрын
Wonderful video, great sentiment and good research!