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@Tmw2861 4 күн бұрын
This is a total rip-off estimate. People please do your homework. I guess some people have more money than brains. It does not take that much to educate yourself. I live out in the country. I purchased A 22K and stalled it myself, which is very easy to do. I know everybody can't do it themselves. I'm not an electrician, And it only took me 10 hours to install it, transfer and Everything except the extra 500 gallon propane tank that I had buried. And the cost for that was $400. This was last year. Sad so many getting ripped off.
@MooGary1 3 күн бұрын
How much was your material?
@MichaelOKeefe2009 Ай бұрын
Over $7000 for a Generac???? No thanks!
@MooGary1 Ай бұрын
Thats what we ended up saying.
@thegolflife7565 Ай бұрын
Think I’m going to the liquid cooled 1800rpm Cummins.
@MooGary1 Ай бұрын
What's the cost on those?
@williamray8000 Ай бұрын
Very informative and helpful for comparison to quoting my installation. Thank you!
@MooGary1 Ай бұрын
Welcome!
@Crooked_Clown 2 ай бұрын
How big is your house? Do you really need a 26KW unit? You could save a couple thousand if you get a 20KW unit
@MooGary1 2 ай бұрын
I would yes (almost everything electric), but you are right, some can get by with smaller depending on size and if they have gas heat or appliances.
@garyponder7139 2 ай бұрын
Does the propane tank come with the Generac? I would need a tank
@MooGary1 2 ай бұрын
No. This one was quoted for me as a natural gas Hookup since I had natural at the house. But you can get a propane run generator. Either way, they would quote without the gas supply. They would want you to get the tank and/or the line ran then they would make the connection. So that would be an additional cost.
@oldtimer3180 2 ай бұрын
A rip off home owner supplies gas install hookup should be included.
@MooGary1 2 ай бұрын
Typically, you work with the utility to get a meter installed to make a connection to their system for your service. The quote I received did include the installers making the pipe connection on my side of the meter, but yes, ended up too salty for me.
@jmb-cm7mr 2 ай бұрын
I have a 18k Generac. The nice thing about it is you can shut it off if you don't want it running continuously to save on NG. My husband and I had it installed mostly because when we are not heating with wood we heat with electric and we needed something to come on Automatically when we travel in the winter months, we live in Upstate NY.
@MooGary1 2 ай бұрын
Sounds like a good use case.
@Beard1787 2 ай бұрын
I just got a quote also for the same size as yours 26kw. They quoted me over $18,000 but their quote did not breakdown the pricing as yours did for each line item.. 😮🤦♂️
@MooGary1 2 ай бұрын
I would ask for a detailed breakdown. At least you could see labor vs material.
@09X19 2 ай бұрын
That is ballpark of what I spent last year in mid-Michigan. Only other add was $700 for a larger gas meter. Nearly a year later, it has ran a total of 56 hours over 3 separate outages. If your individual circumstances can justify the cost...it is a nice luxury. As you would expect with a generator of this size...a power outage is a non-event, power to spare for EVERYTHING. If not for the 'lawn mower' noise outside ...you wouldn't know utilities were down. But yes...very expensive.
@MooGary1 2 ай бұрын
56 hours in a year is a lot so sounds like you definitely needed it!
@fritzprints7182 2 ай бұрын
I’m sorry to say this, but imho the backup generator business is dead, but just doesn’t know it yet… I just finished doing a complete diy hybrid inverter with 30kw battery and a pallet of solar panels. Total cost of equipment was approximately $18k. Subtract a 30% tax credit and it’s considerably less than my neighbors paid for their noisy, inefficient generators. I’m using zero grid power! I now consider it my backup power source…
@MooGary1 2 ай бұрын
Nice! Where did you get the system from?
@fritzprints7182 2 ай бұрын
@@MooGary1signature solar
@fritzprints7182 2 ай бұрын
I’ve learned A LOT in the process. I’m not a professional by any means, but I am retired, so I had plenty of time to work it out on my own with a little help from the tech and sales people…
@oldtimer3180 2 ай бұрын
When the power goes out in a snow storm you may be surprised. That battery will not charge and will drain faster than you think. I install these systems and they are not ready for outages yet.
@motorman1710 2 ай бұрын
Its worth cost. But whatever floats your boat
@MooGary1 2 ай бұрын
Especially in an emergency
@Asidebar 2 ай бұрын
General generators are junk. They have the biggest amount of failures of all brands.
@MooGary1 2 ай бұрын
Thats interesting. Where can you go to look at the failure rates of each brand? That would be helpful for folks.
@davejohns1456 3 ай бұрын
I would like to see the generator further away from the house, especially having to leave the door cracked for the cable...
@MooGary1 3 ай бұрын
You can get a longer cable for the connection between the generator and your plug. The door that is cracked is from the uninsulated garage to the back porch. I put mine on the back porch so it's covered, but you also hear it from inside which is a drawback (although that's a small price to pay for backup power when needed).
@mongo1982 3 ай бұрын
We put in a 26 kW Generac about a year and a half ago. It was a fairly complex installation given that we already had a number of underground utilities in the area (french drain, power, cable, well, irrigation line) and wanted everything perfect. Generator, ATS, a dedicated 1000-gallon propane tank, heat pump soft-start, backup propane lines (in case we wanted to run anything from the house off the big propane tank), trenching, underground and above-ground propane lines and tie-ins), permits, inspections, a big, beautiful cedar fence to hide the big propane tank from my wife’s disapproving eye…and fixing the landscaping to make it look as if none of the installation side-effects had ever occurred). I would’ve buried the big propane tank, but I didn’t want to deal with the excavation. $43,000. I shit you not. But it is perfect. Absolutely perfect. And if it ever goes TU and I want to move to a Kohler or Cummins or whatever I can just swap in the new generator easy-peasy.
@MooGary1 3 ай бұрын
Wow, yeah yall put in a lot of additional work to really make it nice. That's definitely some things to consider on top of what they quote you! Have yall used the generator since then?
@mongo1982 3 ай бұрын
@@MooGary1 I think we lost power three times in the past 18 months for more than 15 seconds, the longest of which was about 5 hours. We also have a 6,500W portable that we use as a backup now. But I’m in my 60s now and schlepping it out of storage when the power goes out isn’t getting any easier. And my wife wouldn’t want to deal with that once I’ve passed. Buy once, cry once. If I had another $20,000 to throw on it, I would’ve gotten a higher-quality liquid-cooled version…but I was pushing the budget as it was. And we could not have used the increased capacity, as the 26 kW version supplies more power than we ever could use, even with everything turned on. We tried it… the most we could get running and on time was about 16 kW. As is, we could easily run a 50 amp cable over to my neighbor and never notice the loss. After I’m gone I just want things to work for my wife. I guess it’s an investment of sorts.
@DJL0455 3 ай бұрын
I thought about one of there when we moved into our house 27 years ago. Then I came to my senses.
@MooGary1 3 ай бұрын
I bet it would have been cheaper then!
@Danielle-m3i 3 ай бұрын
First name is Danielle thats all you need to know thanks
@MooGary1 3 ай бұрын
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@larrymorris7569 3 ай бұрын
Our company sells, installs and services generators in KC. Do your research. There are options other than Generac. Some built in the US. As far as cost, like most things, you get what you pay for. It seems fair to expect a competent, trained and licensed person/company to get paid for their work. Older persons and ones with medical needs are usually pretty pretty glad they have their system when the power goes out.
@MooGary1 3 ай бұрын
Agreed with the elderly for sure. What other bran of generators would yall recommend?
@Asidebar 2 ай бұрын
@@MooGary1 Anything brand is better than Gererac.
@jmb-cm7mr 2 ай бұрын
@@Asidebar I have a Generac and know others who have had them for years and have never had problems with them starting in an outage or any other issues.
@patentexperts1675 3 ай бұрын
This price does not include the cost of the 500 gallon propane tank???????
@MooGary1 3 ай бұрын
I have natural gas already so it was quoted for that connection. If you were going with the propane route you'd need to add the tank!
@nctrailcam81 3 ай бұрын
I was wondering how prices had changed. I got my 20kw unit installed about 10 years ago for just under 10k. But that did not include the LP run which for me was ~80ft and cost around 2k because I had the propane people do it. If you have a long LP run you should keep that in mind and if possible get the trench done yourself. Perfect excuse to rent and play with a Ditch Witch.
@MooGary1 3 ай бұрын
Always like renting machinery myself... Wish those prices had hung around...
@keytothegate68 4 ай бұрын
Sickening ripoff
@MooGary1 4 ай бұрын
Can feel like that
@NyMari8700 4 ай бұрын
Yup in 2024 $13k+ and up seems to be the going rate. Then on top of all this you have to maintain it monthly, do the changes, and you must have Generac service it annually or your warranty is void. Then when you actually need it the cost of running it daily is crazy. Watching what others have gone through made me run fast.
@MooGary1 4 ай бұрын
Yeah we ultimately got turned off due to the cost of something you hope you never use...
@jmb-cm7mr 2 ай бұрын
I have one there is no monthly maintenance only yearly maint of changing oil and filter.
@rudbeckia885 4 ай бұрын
Overpriced junk
@MooGary1 4 ай бұрын
Feels overpriced for sure!
@jko1578 4 ай бұрын
What you can expect is a 50% up charge on equipment compared to buying it online plus absurdly ridiculous installation costs essentially doubling what you should pay.
@MooGary1 4 ай бұрын
Yup, it's a hard pill to swallow.
@thomasjacques5286 4 ай бұрын
I have asked neighbors who had generators installed here in southern IL and they were all over $18K.
@MooGary1 4 ай бұрын
Yeah it's a little different across the country. Also depends on the size of your load.
@andrewsquire9892 4 ай бұрын
15 grand is steep. My tolerance is capping at 10.
@MooGary1 4 ай бұрын
Yup. Tough
@PeteNice29 4 ай бұрын
$2200 for installation materials is excessive. Wire and pipe doesn't cost that much. In my experience in low voltage (30+ years), installation materials are typically at most 10% of the total pre-tax estimate. And generally, this is only for the purposes of the bid. The final bill will reflect the true cost of materials.
@MooGary1 4 ай бұрын
I know... I don't know that they would have taken anything off at the end...
@REVNUMANEWBERN 5 ай бұрын
Worked 40+ years for a lawn Mower MFG that was bought out by B&S, one day we got a shipment in our Ga. warehouse straight from the Savannah port, we opened the trailer door and there was OVER 5 well known U.S. brand names on the boxes of ALL generators, and the kicker was they ALL came out of the same MFG plant in CHINA
@MooGary1 5 ай бұрын
Wow!
@rudbeckia885 4 ай бұрын
@@REVNUMANEWBERN any hondas
@rupe53 3 ай бұрын
@@rudbeckia885 Honda does NOT make an automatic standby unit.
@rudbeckia885 3 ай бұрын
@@rupe53 there are kits that enable the electric start models to remote start
@rupe53 3 ай бұрын
@@rudbeckia885 remote start from 100 feet away is not the same as AutoStart on a power failure, nor does that make it a standby set.
@magooracing 5 ай бұрын
10 years ago we had a 22kw Generac with ATS installed in Houston for $9500. Our neighborhood experiences random power outages a few times a month. After hurricane Harvey we decided to get a whole house generator. We had a small Yamaha 3k watt inverter generator, but setting it up and refueling it was a bit of a hassle. We never thought we would need the generator for winter, but the ice storm a few years ago with a 2 week power outage, proved that wrong.
@MooGary1 5 ай бұрын
You never know
@tc1739 5 ай бұрын
Your quote is better than mine 5 years ago the generator I selected was 6k the installation was 13k so 19k total
@MooGary1 5 ай бұрын
Wow!
@anfernee576 5 ай бұрын
Absolute rip off. They are quoting you based on fear of losing electricity. Just get a generator and a window unit $6000 be done with it Generac.
@MooGary1 5 ай бұрын
I thought it was a tough pill to swallow
@anfernee576 5 ай бұрын
Absolute rip off. They are quoting you based on fear of losing electricity. Just get a generator and a window unit $6000 be done with it Generac.
@MooGary1 5 ай бұрын
It felt like a lot to me.
@rudbeckia885 5 ай бұрын
Generac is junk , ridiculously expensive, very loud . Honda is much quieter, Bluetooth starting , and propane conversion. In my opinion a much better option.
@MooGary1 5 ай бұрын
👍
@rudbeckia885 5 ай бұрын
Very loud, expensive, junk
@MooGary1 5 ай бұрын
I think the dBs are listened in the quote 😅
@TexasEngineer 5 ай бұрын
How do you handle the adequate natural gas supply. Does someone check out the meter to see if the supply is large enough? Also can the gas company supply the gas? I am all electric with 150 amp service and electric strip heat and I have a natural gas line in my easement. I can’t justify the cost savings to convert to gas based on electric cost savings. There is about a $40 minimum charge for gas per month. Is propane a viable option? Gasoline goes bad and hard to purchase during a power outage. Diesel, how long will it last in storage? Are there any diesel generators available?
@MooGary1 5 ай бұрын
The guys coming out to do the install will look at the size of your gas meter. I believe in the quote it spells out the flow rate required. With a 150 amp circuit, your generator is going to be smaller than the one I had quoted. Yes they have propane versions and those are very popular. You'll need a tank, but if you are not using natural now (or don't have that available in the first place) then many folks go propane. Diseal is usually used in industrial applications.
@TexasEngineer 5 ай бұрын
@@MooGary1 Thanks for the good information. The Texas winter storm, Uri, put a kink in my generator plans. You see my electric heater is on a 100 amp breaker and can pull 82 or 42 amps (high or low speed). Every thing was good to go with my new 5 ton variable speed ac that draws only 16 amps on high. Then I found out I had to compensate for heating too. Plus 4500 w electric water heater, I think I may need a bigger generator. I also need to upgrade my breaker box because of age and the obsolete brand of breakers. The whole thing is in a permanent dilemma over the propane tank. How big, rent or buy, and how to get it refilled especially during a natural disaster. The propane companies are picky on refilling anything but their own tanks. And when you have very low usage during a typical year, things get awkward on refills. Now the unknown question, will propane work in the 20’s F? It is looking like a dual fuel generator, propane and gasoline is the best option. Propane for long term storage and gasoline for refill-ability during an outage. Does Generac come in dual fuel?
@jptrade8575 5 ай бұрын
One more cost. we had a power outage here in Houston area due to a small Hurricane. Four days. The natural gas usage came out to $110 a day . $ 450.00 . Our average gas bill is $ 40 a month. We have a gas stove and a water heater. I figured out for Gasoline it would have been $151.00 max. Something to think about.
@MooGary1 5 ай бұрын
Yeah thats right. Are you saying gasoline would have spent $151 on gasoline per day max or for that 4 day duration?
@PeteNice29 4 ай бұрын
Only catch is gasoline availability if SHTF. NG usually isn't affected, although the recent Texas freeze did. However, that seems to be the exception rather than the rule.
@marsflee3815 5 ай бұрын
Generac hates you for putting the total cost. But it's better to be upfront with the total. You might not be able to afford all that money. Thank you for making the video.
@MooGary1 5 ай бұрын
Prolly so. Thanks! I figured others would be curious to get some ball parks.
@The_Critical_Critic 5 ай бұрын
Generac... is over-rated.....
@MooGary1 5 ай бұрын
Who would you say has the best system?
@Asidebar 2 ай бұрын
@@MooGary1 Cummings or Kohler. General is junk
@j.mccarthy3008 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for the information!! We live in Texas where if there’s any kind of natural disaster our elected officials run 🏃🏼 out of the country!! That way they don’t get blamed for (more) deaths and mismanagement of a crisis. We are currently using a portable generator (gas/propane). The biggest problem most folks, who have generators face is 1. Hoping it starts, 2. Enough fuel for said generator, and 3. Finding fuel after power goes out for days! I wondered about the fuel, LPG or natural gas. I looked at adding a line a few years ago and it was in the $5,000 range. Sounds like a lot but if you can’t get gas or propane you are sunk!!! I will revisit that and a large LPG tank. Getting too old to wag 5 gallon LP/gas containers around. Sigh!
@MooGary1 6 ай бұрын
Yeah that's a good point. If/when I buy another portable generator it will have trifuel capability so that I can use natural gas (which we have at the house) in scenarios where you can't get gasoline or propane.
@mabelgambarelli8273 5 ай бұрын
Just clarification: the only politicians to run out of Texas were democrats. Don’t make a single case the norm on the rest of those who did not.
@ricktrogdon2332 4 ай бұрын
if you don't have propane or nat gas i would only buy a portable gen. gas or diesel setting in tank for long periods probably not good.
@rudbeckia885 4 ай бұрын
@@j.mccarthy3008 propane doesn't go bad like gas...get it delivered
@petepyeatt6909 6 ай бұрын
Can you finance the installation fees?
@MooGary1 6 ай бұрын
No idea there.
@SPARKYTX 5 ай бұрын
Yes the entire job can be financed. Texas electrician here
@margiecasado9310 6 ай бұрын
I would be in heaven if I saw this beautiful sight 💕
@MooGary1 6 ай бұрын
They were
@ithacacomments4811 6 ай бұрын
Good mommas those bison! Protect those babies.
@MooGary1 6 ай бұрын
Yup, very sweet.
@mattc4153 6 ай бұрын
Estimated Costs Generac 26KW Generator: $5,000 - $6,000 200 Amp ATS: $500 - $800 Concrete Pad: $200 - $400 Wiring and Conduit: $400 - $700 Connectors and Fittings: $50 - $100 Flexible Conduit: $50 - $100 Grounding Rods and Wire: $50 - $100 Generator Battery: $100 - $150 Fuel Supply Components: $200 - $400 Total Estimated Cost Low End: $6,550 High End: $8,750
@MooGary1 6 ай бұрын
Good thoughts. Mine did have 2 ATSs due to having 2 panels home run fed from the meter.
@ricktrogdon2332 4 ай бұрын
how bout labor cost?
@-Primer- 2 ай бұрын
Just paid $6400 for my 26KW with the 200 AMP ATS. 10% Military discount from Lowes.
@jmb-cm7mr 2 ай бұрын
I paid $9,300 with install for a 18k in NY Sate in April 2024
@Tmw2861 4 күн бұрын
That is a fair price
@mattc4153 6 ай бұрын
2261.10 for basic install materials? Really? That's BS. The labor is 4K with his quote. The price of the generator is has another 1K added. You can get both the ATS and Generator for under 7K.
@MooGary1 6 ай бұрын
Man I know it.
@robinbabcock4620 6 ай бұрын
Red dogs. Nice to see Park Police keeping dumb tourists away from the bison 🦬
@bostonphotographer20 6 ай бұрын
We were in Yellowstone end of May, early June this year and the baby bison were everywhere. The best.
@MooGary1 6 ай бұрын
Nice! This was last week.
@TheRobWay1 6 ай бұрын
Were there two breakers in the generator ?
@MooGary1 6 ай бұрын
Not in the generator
@TheRobWay1 6 ай бұрын
@@MooGary1 why two transfer switches ?
@MooGary1 4 ай бұрын
My panels are separated on two different feeds from the meter.
@ThePilotbuzz 6 ай бұрын
Generac recently quoted us $28K, main reason was distance from generator to service panel, size of generator, and gas plumbing. Hill Country Texas. For $40K (after tax credit) we can get a solar system with battery backup that will power the entire house, and no more electric bill ($350/mo). Solar prices and batteries are dropping fast this Spring, finally getting to where they make sense financially - especially if you take of $28K that it would cost for a generator. I did get 2 other quotes, cheapest was $26K.
@MooGary1 6 ай бұрын
Wow! For what size load?
@Buzz-ep6iu 6 ай бұрын
32kw, actually needed a bit more but that was the smallest that they said they could install due to our loads. That or rewire house with backup circuits separated.
@6-Iron 5 ай бұрын
How long do the solar panels last? My experience with solar landscape lighting has not been very impressive.
@Buzz-ep6iu 5 ай бұрын
@@6-Ironthey come with a warranty that has them at 92% of new output at 25 years, at my age I won’t know when they fail.
@jc8247 6 ай бұрын
We live in Florida and my wife and I are both 79 years old, we decided that we needed a backup generator. Like you say the price is outrageous, but living in florida everything is way way over priced, but what can you do, you either pay or go without. At our age going without was not an option. I wish we did this years ago. I agree with this guy.
@ronpecinajr 6 ай бұрын
Price is outrageous? You must not have a clue what labor and materials, not to mention training to get these generators up and running.
@MooGary1 6 ай бұрын
Sounds like a perfect use case for a system like this for sure.
@Asidebar 2 ай бұрын
@@ronpecinajrThere is no doubt about it, Price is outrageous. General is junk.
@noeltomas 6 ай бұрын
Well I had this bright idea that I was going to get a home back up generator like this Generac here, since most of my neighbors have it and the last time we had a hurricane outage, it lasted 21 days. But then my wife has a brighter idea. She says why not go for solar panels instead. So I did. For a net cost of $16,500 I now have a 12 kilowatt system that generates power every day. There are at least four months of the year where my electric bill is negative (I pay zero) and the utility saves the KWHrs for me. I love it. We haven't had a power outage since I got the panels so I'm way ahead. Ha.
@MooGary1 6 ай бұрын
Nice! What part of the country are you in?