Vanessa Center of Gravity Machine
10:19
Seymour Playing cat curling
1:32
14 жыл бұрын
Kingman Warbird Race 05/23/2009
1:05
15 жыл бұрын
Marty landing his NA-50
0:41
15 жыл бұрын
NA-50 second flight
0:25
15 жыл бұрын
USRA Giant Scale Racing Parker 2007
2:07
R/C Airplane Float Flying
7:37
17 жыл бұрын
P-51 Voodoo
4:14
18 жыл бұрын
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@brettpj3936
@brettpj3936 10 күн бұрын
It's tail heavy cause you have a level sitting on the tail 🤔
@poisonoverdose1
@poisonoverdose1 9 ай бұрын
So...what about the center of lift of the wing vs. center of gravity of the airplane? Do you know anything about the center of lift of a ram air wing? I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but I really want to know this stuff, since I plan to design and build a full-scale version of a wing-in-ground effect craft, that I can climb aboard and fly in person. I really don't want to die the first time I try fly it. Any knowledge you can share would be very appreciated.
@tsawyer148
@tsawyer148 9 ай бұрын
Those are two different things and is way beyond my expertise.... Sorry.
@JDspeedandFab.
@JDspeedandFab. Жыл бұрын
Hello Marty, Quis on your/my NA50 was wondering who Originally did the Glass work on it building of the Wing and Fuse? Would definitely like to find out, I purchased the bird a few years back from a guy out in palm Dale CA, would like to build a New wing for it , fuse is in great shape, any info would help and much appreciated, also what was the top Mph of that Bird? From the video it definitely looks like it’s capable of 200 . Thank you for the cool Videos of it 👍🏼🏁. Jeff.
@flooded3456
@flooded3456 Жыл бұрын
Over 200 yes maybe 215-220 Tim Foster had the NA 50 molds last I heard. He is in California. Not sure if it's the same mold but probably is.
@JDspeedandFab.
@JDspeedandFab. Жыл бұрын
Thank you Marty.
@joem5639
@joem5639 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like to try this but I’m still a little confused by it. Wouldn’t twisting the dowel influence your CG measurement?
@fireflourfur4559
@fireflourfur4559 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, and that's the point. Once the model is level, whatever you are using as a pointer will show the current CG. If the CG is in the wrong place or not where you want it, you add weight to either the nose or tail and then twist the dowel to level the model again. Continue to do this, (add weight, twist dowel), until the model is level and the pointer is showing the CG where you want it to be.
@josephkerkau2520
@josephkerkau2520 2 жыл бұрын
To protect the wings from the string scratching the wings. use round Styrofoam pipe insulation. Cut off 1" and stick it on the wing. Under the string.
@tsawyer148
@tsawyer148 2 жыл бұрын
That's great idea.
@josephkerkau2520
@josephkerkau2520 2 жыл бұрын
@@tsawyer148 Cool your welcome!! I hanger all my plans like that 👍
@fireflourfur4559
@fireflourfur4559 2 жыл бұрын
@@josephkerkau2520 👍
@flyerelite5153
@flyerelite5153 2 жыл бұрын
Can't you just balance the plane on the CG? Why do you need to make this big over analyzed way of checking the CG?
@tsawyer148
@tsawyer148 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, which is what this does if you know where the CG is supposed to be or where you want it to be. This is actually very simple and works great on bigger airframes since you aren't trying to balance it on your fingers or a flimsy post.
@redbaron1954100
@redbaron1954100 3 жыл бұрын
I tried this but the dowel pointed at the trailing edge of one wing and the leading edge of the other wing how did you keep the dowel parallel with the wing
@tsawyer148
@tsawyer148 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure what would cause that, never seen it happen. Make sure the cord loops are the same length and the number and direction of wraps are the same. You should be able to adjust the way the cords wrap around the wing to get the dowel parallel along each wing. Any chance you have a picture to show what you are seeing?
@redbaron1954100
@redbaron1954100 3 жыл бұрын
@@tsawyer148 i realized i had the dowels 90 degrees from support line. so i redid it like your video shows how important is it to have the loops that go around thw wings the s@me length and if it is important how did you tie them to the same length
@tsawyer148
@tsawyer148 3 жыл бұрын
The loops need to be the same length so the wings stay level horizontally. Just cut two pieces of whatever you are using for the cords and tie the knot the same way in the same place on the cords. You also need to make sure the wraps are going the same direction around the adjustment dowel like it says in the video.
@MarkRobinson555
@MarkRobinson555 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent, really well explained, thank you
@tsawyer148
@tsawyer148 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you and you are very welcome!
@michaelphillips-nxs
@michaelphillips-nxs 5 жыл бұрын
that method want work
@tsawyer148
@tsawyer148 5 жыл бұрын
Why not?
@WayneCook306
@WayneCook306 5 жыл бұрын
Woks well but a pain in the bum..
@Tallguysrc
@Tallguysrc 5 жыл бұрын
I use the 2 paper trick...
@mithrandir1313
@mithrandir1313 6 жыл бұрын
I am curious where this flight was...????
@tsawyer148
@tsawyer148 6 жыл бұрын
South of the Sevier dry lake.
@archiguitarchi
@archiguitarchi 6 жыл бұрын
Having a tailplane that has an airfoil shape complicates this a bit, but thanks for the video as it will apply to the other 90% of RC models that are provided with a GC location. it does tick me off that I was given "a range" of millimeters from the leading edge for the CG of my Wargo Yak. I still haven't got it flying reliably..
@clarencegreen3071
@clarencegreen3071 3 жыл бұрын
The plane does not have to be perfectly level for this to work, so, practically speaking, you can forget about the spirit level. Just eyeball it from the side and adjust the plane so it's close to the attitude it assumes in level flight, and you will be good to go.
@frankiejr99
@frankiejr99 7 жыл бұрын
you are the man
@richardjolley6648
@richardjolley6648 7 жыл бұрын
I made one of the machines and it works well. Thanks. The only problem I have found is determining the point to put the spirit level on. Most stabilizers are curved and finding the point where you are at zero degree incidence is a bit hit and miss unless you have an incidence machine. Using an incidence machine I generally can find a point on the plane which is the same, and this often is the battery/Rx tray. Any ideas?
@gailraby1722
@gailraby1722 7 жыл бұрын
as close to CG as possible would be the best place for it, some kind of foam holder will work great in case the aircraft is curved, a little messing about before hand so set the holder up, place the model on a soft cushion to complete this, once done you can keep the holder for future testing.
@Vdubin64bug
@Vdubin64bug 8 жыл бұрын
I have used this same set up.. It works great and works on many types of wings.. Great video..
@MrOildale
@MrOildale 8 жыл бұрын
showing how to find C.G. on an airplane with a busted up wing in the background lol, i'm out.
@tsawyer148
@tsawyer148 7 жыл бұрын
That's what happens when your plane is going between 110 and 120 mph around a couple of pvc pipes at around 20 feet off the ground and someone elses plane tries to occupy the same space you are in. A result of Warbird pylon racing, and, as a side note, the plane was balanced perfectly thanks to this little item and flying like a bat out of hell.. :)
@shelbyseelbach9568
@shelbyseelbach9568 6 жыл бұрын
MrOildale what a stupid comment.
@wanger0690
@wanger0690 8 жыл бұрын
Archimedes had nothing on you, pal!
@sieghardboke7216
@sieghardboke7216 8 жыл бұрын
Let's assume that the manufacturer of an RC plane provided the wrong CG. Does this rig allow one to find the correct CG on the plane ??
@tsawyer148
@tsawyer148 8 жыл бұрын
+Danger Dan What this method does is tell you where the current CG is. So, to answer your question, no, it doesn't. You would have to go through the process of measuring the wing chord, etc., to find where the correct CG should be then balance the model accordingly.
@sieghardboke7216
@sieghardboke7216 8 жыл бұрын
+tsawyer148 Thank you for responding.. That really helped.
@tsawyer148
@tsawyer148 8 жыл бұрын
+Danger Dan Very welcome.
@jimburkhart58
@jimburkhart58 9 жыл бұрын
just a follow up on your vanessa cg rig...built one..works great for most of my planes...only issue I want to touch on...level on the rear stab...before cg stuff...how do you establish what IS LEVEL when hanging plane...(most rear stabs are CURVED a bit) egs..P51.... so level varies on where ON the rear stab you put this level ...is it basically an eyeball thing??? ps..I hung a small weight on fishing line the same weight as the level (7grms} on the nose to equal out weight of the little level
@tsawyer148
@tsawyer148 9 жыл бұрын
An airfoiled surface like on bigger planes can be a bit tricky, but what you could do is find the center of the horizontal stab at the tip on the leading and trailing edge and mark a line along the center. Then find a way to put the level along that line and use that to level the plane. That's a great idea by hanging the weight on the nose, I'll have to try doing that.
@jimburkhart58
@jimburkhart58 9 жыл бұрын
if I read correctly..this gets rid of flipping plane up-side-down...I.should STILL retract gear..right....Im buildind this...(trying to flip a twin engine mosquito..gear up..battery installed..& using fingers..lol TRY THAT!!!).. this looks bang on bud
@tsawyer148
@tsawyer148 9 жыл бұрын
That is correct, plane right side up, gear retracted. It should still work even if the plane is upside down but there is not need for it. I have used it for several different planes, (high, mid and low wing; with and without retracts), and it works for them all with the plane right side up.
@jimburkhart58
@jimburkhart58 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks, very cool..very simple..got so frustrated trying to balance a fairly large plane on the machine I built out of pbs pipe...real gong show...got this built, just have to get a small plum bob..
@woodbine66
@woodbine66 10 жыл бұрын
That cat's a star and gorgeous!
@damien5999
@damien5999 10 жыл бұрын
Funny ! Cats are ridiculous !
@mamagjm
@mamagjm 12 жыл бұрын
GOOD!
@tsawyer148
@tsawyer148 12 жыл бұрын
I am not sure what brand it is. I found it on a now defunct web site. It's a good model but as far as where or who it cam from, I'm not sure. The instructions I'm sure were done by the same people that do the ones for World Models as they look and read exactly the same. As far as I know they don't make it anymore.
@TheKenwiesner
@TheKenwiesner 12 жыл бұрын
what is the brand name of the seller of this model?
@BMACK991
@BMACK991 14 жыл бұрын
@tsawyer148 Dude i hate all the haters out there on youtube with no life that waste everyones time but a good video the giant scale racers are fast even if you did zoom in farther
@tsawyer148
@tsawyer148 14 жыл бұрын
@straighttailpilot Yes, the hold 2 or 3 races a year. They try to do one in the east, one in the central part of the country and one in the west throughout the year. As a matter of fact, as of the date of this post, (June 26, 2010), they are holding a race in Texas. Not sure of the date for the one out west but it will more that likely be sometime in October or thereabouts.
@straighttailpilot
@straighttailpilot 14 жыл бұрын
is this a annual event?
@tsawyer148
@tsawyer148 15 жыл бұрын
Yes, they are. Unfortunately, Horizon is basically pricing us out of the class. The price of the plane went way up and they are not as appealing anymore to the racers.
@tsawyer148
@tsawyer148 16 жыл бұрын
This particular class is the formula 1, (Zenoah GT 80, 80 cc engine converted to glow fuel). The average speed for these planes is around 160 to 180 mph or there abouts. There is another class, (Unlimited), that races at these events that average over 220 mph.
@leadsolo2751
@leadsolo2751 16 жыл бұрын
Pardon me ignorance ... but what's e average race speed here ?
@tsawyer148
@tsawyer148 16 жыл бұрын
rcpro 17, is there a comment that is supposed to go here? Just curious...Chuck???
@tsawyer148
@tsawyer148 16 жыл бұрын
???
@tldixonjr
@tldixonjr 16 жыл бұрын
thank you, i have a os 75 ax on my sundowner 50, and i have a os 55 ax on my pylon racer nemises...thanks. i think that i will put a saito 36cc for my formula 1.
@tsawyer148
@tsawyer148 16 жыл бұрын
Currently we are running the Thunder Tiger Pro .46 with a 10X7 prop and the stock muffler, no modifications to the airframe and a minimum dry weight of 5 lbs. 12 oz. Since this is our first year racing, we went with this combo as a middle ground between our "sport" class and our quickie class. These planes can be easily flown by just about any novice flyer and even though they may not be the fastest things around, they make for some very competitive racing and are alot of fun.
@tldixonjr
@tldixonjr 16 жыл бұрын
what setup are you runing on the sundowner 50, what engine, and whats the prop, and what type exhast.
@islandbushpilot
@islandbushpilot 16 жыл бұрын
awsome flying good pilot
@GypsieSlayer
@GypsieSlayer 16 жыл бұрын
That is pretty cool to see, thanks for the link.
@seahonk2
@seahonk2 16 жыл бұрын
thats some very nice flying
@MechanicDan69
@MechanicDan69 17 жыл бұрын
Nice plane and awesome pilot. Very smooth.
@tsawyer148
@tsawyer148 17 жыл бұрын
They were there when I got the model. It is a different color scheme than the real Voodoo, other than it is purple and has the checkers along the side, (which have a white background rather than the chrome accent). All in all, it is a great flying model. The model came from China and they actually sell it as the Dago Red, but it did come with graphics that can be put on that say either Voodoo or Dago Red, with the tail numbers. I won't put them on, I like the clean look it has now.
@tsawyer148
@tsawyer148 17 жыл бұрын
Nothing modified per say, except for the hardware. The title is referencing the idea that the model is patterned after a full scale modified P-51 Reno racer.
@meathead005
@meathead005 17 жыл бұрын
i see you have changed your comment on the vid can i ask what you have modified on it
@growingupisoptional
@growingupisoptional 17 жыл бұрын
That last one was brilliant ;-) Has given me the push I needed to post some of my own clubs water antics. Keep an eye out for float plane madness Morgan Sth Aust. Cheers
@932v
@932v 17 жыл бұрын
COOL!!!
@meathead005
@meathead005 18 жыл бұрын
nice man very nice man