Doom8088 CGA Different color modes
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Doom8088 CGA running on 286 12 Mhz
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IBM PC 5150 Restoration
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@Mr.KnuckolasCage
@Mr.KnuckolasCage 19 сағат бұрын
Capability is one way to put it LOL Just kidding this is kind of cool
@DookNookim
@DookNookim 2 күн бұрын
Looks playable to me. BTW press [ and ] to switch weapons 😉
@greenscreen5994
@greenscreen5994 Күн бұрын
For a 12 mhz cpu it is very playable:) BTW there are two executable files in the game folder(d286cga and d8088cga), I checked both and I don't see any difference(game looks the same and runs also the same), what is the difference between them?
@DookNookim
@DookNookim Күн бұрын
@@greenscreen5994 d8088cga is optimized for 8088 processors and d286cga is optimized for 286 processors. d286cga is smaller, so there's more memory left for the game. In theory, it should be faster. In practice, benchmarking (D286CGA.EXE/D8088CGA.EXE -timedemo demo3) show little difference.
@coffee115
@coffee115 10 сағат бұрын
I wonder if an -Os build would do any good?
@DookNookim
@DookNookim 8 сағат бұрын
@@coffee115 The functions that are executed multiple times per frame are compiled with -Ofast, all the other functions with -Os. Compiling everything with -Os decreases performance by 10%.
@ralfrosenberger666
@ralfrosenberger666 2 күн бұрын
That is all you need...
@beerbaron9802
@beerbaron9802 3 күн бұрын
La musica de introduccion de las mejores que escuche en un juego.
@greenscreen5994
@greenscreen5994 3 күн бұрын
The entire soundtrack of this game is amazing🙂
@DookNookim
@DookNookim 5 күн бұрын
Hi! Can you try Doom8088? 😉
@greenscreen5994
@greenscreen5994 5 күн бұрын
Hi, I'll definitely try it, I'm currently having some issues with my 386. Will this port work on a 286 with only 1mb of ram? Anyway, great job!
@DookNookim
@DookNookim 5 күн бұрын
@@greenscreen5994 It will definitely run on a 286 with 1 MB of RAM, but for a good experience 1.5 MB of XMS memory and 64 kB of EMS memory are recommended.
@Kostromaful
@Kostromaful 27 күн бұрын
у статуи задом надо прыгать
@Aurochhunter
@Aurochhunter Ай бұрын
Damn, the version I remember was a a step up from this with CGA graphics.
@jackmercer4244
@jackmercer4244 Ай бұрын
gimme gimme gimme
@JuanRoosterbeard
@JuanRoosterbeard Ай бұрын
#pierregilhodes #murialtramis
@mikegonzalez2012
@mikegonzalez2012 Ай бұрын
You are using the wrong GPU for this game. Get a Voodoo Banshee and it will run beautifully. I know cuz back in 1998 when I was in college that's what I used. Also why are you using software rendering and not OpenGL? Software rendering sucked back then.
@greenscreen5994
@greenscreen5994 Ай бұрын
Back then software renderer may not be impressive but now I really enjoy the look of those big pixels. I remember when shortly after Unreal's premiere I played it on S3Trio 64 card, what an experience it was 😆and Unreal in the 3Dfx version will be in one of the next videos😃
@De-M-oN
@De-M-oN Ай бұрын
Thats really goddamn slow. My father had a MMX 233mhz. I dont remember the GPU, but I could play it in a at least 640x480 res and a quite good framerate But we used OpenGL
@greenscreen5994
@greenscreen5994 Ай бұрын
And this is exactly the difference between software and hardware mode. On the one hand, big pixels and low frame rate, and on the other, smooth textures and high frame rate.I will upload "Unreal" with 3Dfx support soon.
@De-M-oN
@De-M-oN Ай бұрын
Is it only the video or is for real your right loudspeaker not working?
@greenscreen5994
@greenscreen5994 Ай бұрын
I probably messed something up in the camera settings, besides I mess something up with almost every video 😔My speakers work just fine
@De-M-oN
@De-M-oN 2 ай бұрын
Quake 2's music OFF? are you sure? o.o
@ಓಟ್ಗಾನ್ಡೊಲ್ಗೊರ್ಸುರೆನ್
@ಓಟ್ಗಾನ್ಡೊಲ್ಗೊರ್ಸುರೆನ್ 2 ай бұрын
wow good old memories 🥰🥰🥰
@F2bnp
@F2bnp 2 ай бұрын
Nice setup! Depending on your motherboard and chipset, lowering your RAM to 64MB will actually improve performance, as most Intel socket 7 chipsets cannot cache more than 64MB of RAM. i430HX can do it, but needs enough cache to be able to do so. As for performance on Quake 2, I think you're in the ballpark of where the system should land. MMX 200 is not especially fast for Quake 2 and Voodoo 1's 4MB VRAM is very limiting. You should see a nice jump in performance by dropping texture quality by one or two factors especially. Give it a try.
@greenscreen5994
@greenscreen5994 2 ай бұрын
I will definitely do something about it (when I have some free time) I also suspect another reason for the low performance, namely the processor cooling. I use some unbranded low speed fan and maybe that is why the processor overheats and does not work with full efficiency(but i'm guessing here)
@F2bnp
@F2bnp 2 ай бұрын
@@greenscreen5994 No that can't be the case because neither the CPU or chipset have any such functionality. I think it's only with the Pentium 4 that Intel added such functionality. Not to mention, the MMX 200 barely consumes 12-15 watts, it doesn't really require much beyond the most basic of heatsinks and fans.
@greenscreen5994
@greenscreen5994 2 ай бұрын
@@F2bnp Today I changed the RAM as you recommended I started with 32MB,then 64MB and even 256MB. The result in Quake 2 (512x384) in each of the above configurations is exactly the same as before, 15.9fps.256mb helped in Unreal, still low frame rate but now there are much less stutters.It is possible that there is something wrong with the 3dfx card, both in Q2 and Unreal there are glitches.
@3dfxvoodoocards6
@3dfxvoodoocards6 2 ай бұрын
With this configuration it should get 35-40 fps in Quake 2 512x384. Just 15 fps is waaay too low. Try to disable vsync.
@greenscreen5994
@greenscreen5994 2 ай бұрын
Vsync in the game and in the control panel under the 3dfx graphics card tab is disabled. I have the drivers for the card from Philscomputerlab.com so I have no idea why the fps result is so low. Btw you got great channel:)
@De-M-oN
@De-M-oN Ай бұрын
its because he has the music off. The game has no motivation to render faster like that 😛
@greenscreen5994
@greenscreen5994 Ай бұрын
@@De-M-oN It looks like I managed to find the cause of the low frame rate. After removing the Belkin N10117 PCI 5-Port USB Card from the system the frame rate in Quake 2 jumped from 15.9 to 22.3. Other games that previously stuttered (Croc 1, NFS 2SE or Unreal) now run noticeably smoother!
@Mandy-Lane
@Mandy-Lane 2 ай бұрын
this game scared me so much.. that monsters.. this was quite scary back in the days
@vittosphonecollection57289
@vittosphonecollection57289 2 ай бұрын
COOL! Looks and sounds so good!!!!
@greenscreen5994
@greenscreen5994 2 ай бұрын
In person it looks way better,recording CRT-s is a pain😐
@vittosphonecollection57289
@vittosphonecollection57289 2 ай бұрын
@@greenscreen5994 Nice, because it already looked pretty cool! Also thanks for the heart =)
@광동아재廣東大叔
@광동아재廣東大叔 2 ай бұрын
It is because of this game that I bought a Voodoo2 then... my 2D card was a Matrox Millenium 2. Now I'm playing the RTX Remake of this game using a 4090.
@greenscreen5994
@greenscreen5994 2 ай бұрын
I first played Quake 2 in software mode on an S3 Trio 64UV+ card, shortly afterwards I became the proud owner of a 3Dfx VooDoo 1 and that was a completely new experience. Good memories:)
@광동아재廣東大叔
@광동아재廣東大叔 2 ай бұрын
@@greenscreen5994 "PROUD OWNER"... Considering the whopping price for the VooDoo cards...You're absolutely right🤣🤣
@Aceiolix
@Aceiolix 2 ай бұрын
early variants of realplayer might be an option for win9x - there is a realplayer in windows/system (32?)
@greenscreen5994
@greenscreen5994 2 ай бұрын
I've never used RealPlayer but I'll check it out of curiosity.
@YabguMukan
@YabguMukan 2 ай бұрын
I just watched a trailer like a stalker
@piotryczywek845
@piotryczywek845 2 ай бұрын
hello i have a question about your video with xdc player: did you convert these animations as jim leonard showed in his tutorial, meaning: video to frames, frames to bitmaps and only then compiled them, is there any converter that does all this automatically?
@greenscreen5994
@greenscreen5994 2 ай бұрын
Unfortunately you have to do everything yourself as in the tutorial video.I used eight different tools to make those videos: DosBox,VirtualDub,InfranView 64,Freemake Audio Converter,Photoshop CSS,Sled,XDC_COMP and some software to convert video files to avi format which is required by VirtualDub.It is a bit time-consuming process.There is no easy way around:\
@riitasointu4050
@riitasointu4050 2 ай бұрын
I remember this game and Quake1 when my bigbrothers played this in lan :D they put their computers against each other and kept fun I was 8 year old
@Irractor
@Irractor 2 ай бұрын
good video, but this is still kinda slow frame rate; you should have put texture detail to low in settings
@greenscreen5994
@greenscreen5994 2 ай бұрын
It could help a little but today I changed the card to Geforce 3Ti200 and in software mode it works almost exactly as slowly:\
@De-M-oN
@De-M-oN Ай бұрын
@@greenscreen5994 at this point everybody knew games require now 3D Cards. If there wasnt a financial reason to buy a 3D card, nobody used software anymore. And the most had by now 3D Cards. This game looks the best on the OpenGL Renderer.
@ncrvako
@ncrvako 2 ай бұрын
Αλλες εποχες.
@PROSTO4Tabal
@PROSTO4Tabal 2 ай бұрын
It looks like Doom have bad flu or something
@PROSTO4Tabal
@PROSTO4Tabal 2 ай бұрын
Omg 1fps per light year
@PROSTO4Tabal
@PROSTO4Tabal 2 ай бұрын
Fraps steal fps quake 2 even in software looking good
@tenminutetokyo2643
@tenminutetokyo2643 2 ай бұрын
I was 29 and it was a very good year.
@vitobelflores6510
@vitobelflores6510 3 ай бұрын
Ey i have this game from my 386sx
@vitobelflores6510
@vitobelflores6510 3 ай бұрын
Do you have sometheng like a mdacard modified to gain a few graphic attribs? Ia says it can do it
@vitobelflores6510
@vitobelflores6510 3 ай бұрын
Cmf format audio? Or what is that
@vitobelflores6510
@vitobelflores6510 3 ай бұрын
Uses a Windows 3.0 cga driver?
@SteliosLiapis
@SteliosLiapis 3 ай бұрын
Probably, although I don't believe it.
@mitchelljermaine
@mitchelljermaine 3 ай бұрын
I would love to know the compression method for the video file
@greenscreen5994
@greenscreen5994 3 ай бұрын
Everything is explained in this tutorial video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKelp3hjesSBi7c You can find more information on this site: x86dc.wordpress.com/documentation/xdc-player/
@Dysturbed-00
@Dysturbed-00 3 ай бұрын
I enjoyed the music from Laura Bow II: The Dagger of Amon Ra.
@delphicdescant
@delphicdescant 4 ай бұрын
I think it's neat that, when compressed down to the level of CGA graphics, that video of Unreal is indistinguishable from a video of real life similarly compressed. Oddly, this gives it a sort of hyper-realism to me.
@makiskapa8291
@makiskapa8291 4 ай бұрын
Cga graphics...what not to like!
@Quiver333_real
@Quiver333_real 4 ай бұрын
Chat, is this real or unreal
@greenscreen5994
@greenscreen5994 4 ай бұрын
It's a real animated GIF🙃
@pollock8000
@pollock8000 4 ай бұрын
to this day, graphics and playability still standing. This is a marvel of programmings. No libraries, no GPT, absolute human coding marvel.
@PlumGurly
@PlumGurly 5 ай бұрын
If you can find an NEC V20 CPU, you can pull out the Intel 8088 and put that in its place for a little more performance. The V20 also had an 8080 or maybe Z80 mode. I never installed one for that reason, just the fact that it ran 8088 code faster than an 8088 could.
@greenscreen5994
@greenscreen5994 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the suggestions I will definitely do some upgrade in the future, but the first thing will be to add more RAM. 256kb is not much, in this case the easiest solution would be to add a PicoMEM card
@PlumGurly
@PlumGurly 4 ай бұрын
@@greenscreen5994 -- The V20 is a drop-in replacement. It may cause minor side-effects like a faster starting beep (though not most other sounds since they are routed through the system timer and not bit-banged as in the ROM beep) and possibly video artifacts. There is a malformed loop in the ROM to prevent the snow, and the original CPU and graphics boards mask that. Someone can rewrite the ROM to rework that loop and do some general speedup hacks such as removing stray NOPs that serve no purpose. In addition, if one intends on only using the V20 as the CPU and not swap it (or they want to add detection code and separate code paths for 8088 vs. V20), they can edit code that can benefit from the 186, 286, or V20/V30 instructions that it has and the 8088 doesn't have. An example is the block memory copy opcode.
@PlumGurly
@PlumGurly 5 ай бұрын
So there were mud dobber's nests in there. Wow. It probably sat in a garage or maybe a basement.
@nanddoribeiro5677
@nanddoribeiro5677 5 ай бұрын
Hello to Old PC Lovers
@greenscreen5994
@greenscreen5994 5 ай бұрын
Hello to Old PC Lover:)
@Florentina-ox9xq
@Florentina-ox9xq 5 ай бұрын
At least it's faster than an HDD...
@stephenpearce8341
@stephenpearce8341 5 ай бұрын
That 5151 display looks practically mint condition, great find
@jjohnson71958
@jjohnson71958 5 ай бұрын
nice
@tenminutetokyo2643
@tenminutetokyo2643 5 ай бұрын
What a score!
@ATLAS8821
@ATLAS8821 5 ай бұрын
how to install windows in that PC?
@silentbloodyslayer98
@silentbloodyslayer98 5 ай бұрын
💀
@PlumGurly
@PlumGurly 5 ай бұрын
You don't. LOL! Install good ole MS-DOS.
@digitalarchaeologist5102
@digitalarchaeologist5102 5 ай бұрын
Just recently restored and repaired my own 5150 (16 - 64K model) that I rescued from a skip, complete with 5151 and hard disk with controller and RAM card
@techstormster
@techstormster 5 ай бұрын
Did these old monitors really have persistence issues like the first cheap lcd screens in laptops?
@greenscreen5994
@greenscreen5994 5 ай бұрын
Honestly, these old monitors will outlive many new monitors -like seriously