Ooh this aged poorly

I'm loekey tired of the PEKKA BS meta, but I'm making it work with RG. Who knows, maybe Evo MK will be able to cook against PEKKA. We shall see

Thank you all for watching, I know it's a bit shorter than normal, however... It is under the promise of 10 minutes or less!

On a scale of 1-10 how bad are you? ;)

Nice glazing brah, enjoy your ratio 😆

boots are tastier and real compared to the digital garbage your spouting, stop gloating about a dev team that continues to ruin the game. you lot wont know it until they remove or nerf things you enjoy, you blind lot are just like the old poem. First they came for the [REDACTED] And I did not speak out Because I was not a [REDACTED] Then they came for the [REDACTED] And I did not speak out Because I was not a [REDACTED] Then they came for the trade [REDACTED] And I did not speak out Because I was not a trade [REDACTED] Then they came for the [REDACTED] And I did not speak out Because I was not a [REDACTED] Then they came for me And there was no one left To speak out for me you lot deserve nothing but apathy

The players' vision for the baseline effectiveness of primaries is just wildly different from the devs. That's why one side sees things as justified and the other doesn't. It is just a developer design vision that's incongruent to player expectation.

I feel like the idea of “the flamethrower had to be nerfed for build variety” is a bit unfounded. Ever since escalation of freedom, I’ve only seen much more rigid builds on the bug front. Rocket launchers have become basically required on the bug front on difficulty 7 and above, and where I formerly saw flamers and rockets, I now almost exclusively see rockets on the bug front because not taking them with charger spam being as high as it is, is basically suicide. No hate to you, I respect that you’re voicing your opinion, but I personally disagree

lol lmao even

Everyone bitching about how AH wants realism but so n so isn’t realistic. Helldivers 2 isn’t supposed to be a PTSD simulator. What AH wants is War thunder arcade. Realistic enough to keep you thinking but not to the point where you’re just playing Arma 3. In WT arcade, the game tells how far to lead or what angle of elevation you have to put your gun to hit the target. You still have to think about whether it’s worth dogfighting or if your shell can penetrate. The game does things for you but you still need to think.

I'm baffled people are defending the mobile game style 'pay for convenience' model of monetization in the current year. That should be the real outrage in the community. In regards to the main topic, I'm having plenty of fun on difficulty 8. I don't understand the desire for making the super mega hard difficulty any easier by overtuning weapons. Unfortunately this outrage is driving a ton of clicks, and it's basically slop content in order to farm more watchtime. Hopefully Arrowhead sticks to their guns and chooses their vision of the game.

Thank you for making this video especially since most people despise what you talked about. I think the a lot of players need to swallow their pride and play on the lower difficulties because they lean to much on Metas. I know arrowhead is working on buffing the underperforming weapons/stratagems (Arc Thrower) but players can't grasp how the gameplay will be once the Illuminate invade the galaxy. Keep it up Helldiver and switch your railgun to unsafe mode!

Boy if you don't get this 240p bullcrap outta here

Buff other weapons to be on par with the most used weapons/strategems < Nerf the most used weapons/strategems into the ground Not hard to see why people quit. When a game isn't fun anymore, it's just not fun. Arrowhead has repeatedly seen to it that the things that were fun are consistently nerfed into the ground and do fuck all else for the rest of the things that are weak. Gave em a chance after the PSN Fiasco to see if they could recover but it's clear to see they can't because they don't even know what they're doing or what they want to do. Can't blame Sony for your inability to listen to your playerbase, also trying to gaslight them won't work either. Listen and fix it or take the L, those are their options.

All I hear is guck guck guck as inhale the developers peen.

Nice argument...not buying the game. I've had my fair share of games that nerf themselves into obscurity.

I remember when i would get kicked because i wasn't using the meta.

I'm going to throw my two cents into this whole mess as an outsider looking in: Do the players know what's best in terms of the game being balanced? Perhaps not. Do the players know what's best in terms of the game being fun? Absolutely. It doesn't matter if a game is perfectly balanced; if your game isn't fun, then players won't continue to play and support your game. Plain and Simple. This applies to Helldivers 2 more than ever, being a live multiplayer game that depends on players coming back to continue onward, and if players are complaining, protesting, and ultimately leaving in numbers because of balance patches that they don't like, then Arrowhead aren't doing a good job of maintaining a good game.

the flamer absolutely needed to be nerfed. with the ship upgrade, you could take out like three chargers on a single tank along with the rest of the horde. It was so absurd that there was no reason to use any other support weapon.

focusing on the latest update and assuming that people are angry at the balance because of just this one specific update is missing the point, the latest update was just the straw that broke the camel's back for some people, between AH nerfing things that people liked, not fixing bugs for months, rather blatant lack of any QA and other out of game drama people got worn down below is me ranting about my personal experience and overall issues i see with the way AH handles things, TL:DR below TL;DR of the rant: -no testing of things (the ammo upgrade, anti tank mines, missions, weapons overall (a gun being literally wrong color and having the stats of a liberator pretty much despite in game description and numerous massive bugs with incredible influence on balance) -bugs persist for months with no end in sight (patrol spawns, armor not working, titan bodies having death fields around them, PS5 bug, flame/DOT dmg bug and so on) -inconsistent/hypocritical logic to balancing (if flamethrower is OP why is autocannon okay, overall autocannon being ridiculously strong for most if not all of the games lifetime but receiving no heavy nerfs despite that) -nonsensical buffs to enemies (headshots being prime example) -on the previous note, shadow changes to the game not listed in the patch notes, its not cute, its not funny, its just irritating that i have to watch youtube videos to understand why things feel different because someone at AH decided that big changes arent important enough to be listed ====================== personally I never experienced the OP railgun, it took 7-8 charged headshots to kill a bile titan, this was the actual railgun, working as intended, not the absurdly bugged version from PS5 bug, then they nerfed it because I guess nobody at the office took note of how odd it is that some people show videos of one shoting a titan and some have to headshot it half a dozen times, clearly since some people can instakill titans we have to nerf the gun for everyone, then they nerfed the arc thrower and then they nerfed the chargers because otherwise the community would be left with nothing effective, I wonder how the meta would be if instead of nerfing the railgun and arc thrower they fixed the PS5 bug first and changed the chargers and their "obvious" weak spot as they did later on, on the topic of balance i saw in one of the comments that the flamethrower had to be nerfed because it was the best option because it killed everything but titans, clearly this is the devs logic which brings up a question, why is autocannon allowed to exist in its current state then? it can kill every single enemy on the bot front in a reasonable timeframe without expending much overall ammo, its been that way forever, its irritating to see a thing you like nerfed because it was "OP", when its weak compared to the autocannon the patrol spawns bug was the last straw for me, I used to play with my brother in a duo but after that bug was introduced we played less and less because it just wasnt fun, we would go into a game and we would get overwhelmed when a patch before we could actually fight and not just play running away simulator, when i played with randoms in a 4-man team we would get the exact same number of enemies which felt bs, weeks passed and no fix on the horizon so we stopped granted this was just the last straw, all the small and big bugs along the way contributed to this, between titan's bodies leaving behind lethal invisible hitboxes, pelican ramp sides being invisible walls, shield devastators being able to shoot through their own shields or bodies, bots being able to shoot through terrain, gunship spawners being sometimes immune to hellbombs, bot side objectives having anti-strategem ball bouncy fields around them and bile titans heads becoming hyperarmored when spitting which apparently was not a bug but an intended change, on that note, all the enemy buffs didnt help either, i dont understand why AH figured that giving enemies the ability to headshot us would make the game better, especially with robots firing thousands of bullets at us and hunters having a very common attack that is jumping and attacking at head level, then they changed bot's spread making them in effect more accurate

This is the most melodramatic community in gaming. People need to touch some fucking grass and stop acting like making some mistakes while balancing a video game is end of the world.

A video with a thousand views but only 45 likes I can only imagine what the dislikes are, the game is bad rn we know AH is human we've given them multiple chances to rectify their past fuckups and they seem to ignore the solutions offered and do their own thing which clearly isn't working by all the players leaving the game and the reviews of the game going to shit nobody wants to support another live service dev team that laughs at its player bases genuine concerns and then ignores the feedback because it "isn't nice"

When the game is dead and you have no one to play with you’ll wish you had stood up alongside everyone else when it mattered instead of glazing

Their buffs are impotent womp womp

I can skip through a majority of this, stopping on random points, and you’re still spouting things that only defend the devs for no reason, they’ve Gypped you out of $40 on the low end, $60+ on the high end, and they’re showing you that they want to kill this game so much, they’re willing to take things that a majority of players use, and nerf them, “for balance reasons”. Like dude, what, are the bugs complaining about being killed? What is the purpose for nerfing weapons in a PVE game? There is no reason, you buff weapons that are lackluster, you don’t nerf everything to be shitty, it’s ridiculous

I loved the game when it launched but this shit just isnt fun anymore, and if you dont play 6 hours a day everyday youre never unlocking the new shit they constantly roll out with their battle pass system. and every primary weapon feels like a fuckin toy, utterly worthless.

Great video; you echo a lot of the things I've been telling my friends, most of which have stopped playing since Escalation of Freedom. A lot of players are blind to the small changes that have made the experience more fun and are unwilling to adapt to new playstyles/weapons. I do think difficulty 10, along with a lot of the new enemies, are unbalanced; but I just fall back on difficulty 9 and it is still, for the most part, really fun and mostly unchanged from what things were before. I think AH was justified in their nerfs, for the most part (excluding the changes to fire that makes flamer, one of my favorite weapons, near unusable). I do also appreciate them changing how some underused stratagems work. Since the update I have been using a lot of new strats that I had previously not used and I've seen a lot of others online doing the same. Overall, I think most players are being unfair with AH and I hope that patches in the next month or so are able to calm players down.

im confused, the balance is clearly based off low difficultly. our AT support weapons cant one shot hulks or chargers anymore(cuz urhrhmrmrm realism duh), our insanely long cooldown for a orbital railgun cant oneshot anything save for the fodder(realism duh AH is so realistic), flamethrowers no longer are actual flamethrowers and now resemble a blow torch(realism being stated as the reason again). AH keeps nerfing because they want us to play some hardcore tactical experience running low on ammo the entire time, which was directly stated by community leaders. almost every single weapon sucks, we are forced to use the meta in majority scenarios. not even a point in picking supports and strategems for the mission itself. bot mission on 10 ? two possible loadouts. bug mission on 10 ? maybe 2 load outs. even though there are hundreds of weapons only a handful work.

You have repeatedly said the devs are human as a response to the lack of care the devs have taken in response to criticism. However when looking at what they nerf it is in response to weapon popularity. I'd say that the dev team is taking an inverse approach to Hello Games No Man Sky. Which makes the dev team look some what malicious. While Hello Games had to push pass the horrible press of their game and live up to its stated goal, Arrowhead busted out on the scene with a great number of players but seems to actively push down/away its advertised goal of being a game that gives you an overpowered power fantasy; by continually taking away power from the players. Either way if they do not course correct in a proper manner that is appealing to players their game wont necessarily be known as a failed product but a failed example of a live service and the devs being misaligned with its audience.

I just played the Breaker for the first time today in over four months. It was fun, for ten seconds. Then I had to reload. This happened over and over, I would have fun and then be forced to reload. It feels awful, like it was not balanced around what it can do but to make sure you can’t have fun with it.

Players demanded new content so they dropped a patch when they were understaffed. Make mistakes and now those same players are screeching about the flamethrower. Ignoring all the beautiful stuff this game offers. AH isn't perfect but I'd rather take them over blizzard or any other AAA

Another clown defending... Sometimes I doubt if you guys even play on difficulty above 3 or so.

The devs arent bad people, they're just incompetent. When you balance, there needs to be a baseline and a vision. They kind of have the latter, but absolutely do not have the former. You can't tell me what AH wants the game to be because AH doesn't even know what they want the game to be, since if they did, they'd stop counteracting every comment they make about the game's design/

2:22 the eruptor went from being the best gun in the entire game to being complete trash even after its buffs it still fills absolutely no rolls the devs did not "fix" the eruptor they straight up murdered the gun first they removed its shrapnel when they could've just nerfed the damage and then they cut its ammo in half now tbh i do Think the eruptor deserves that ammo nerf but they should've kept the shrapnel as that was the only unique thing about the gun (and same with the cross bow but tbh i legit have no clue why the devs nerfed the crossbow it wasn't even a good weapon on release and it isn't even good now)

aight, less than 5 minutes in and I can already smell the bullshit. Are you seriously defending their balance updates with "look at how many weapons kept getting buffed so frequently!" as if people claimed they didn't, when the problem, very well acknowledged, is that most of the time those buffs were insignificant? sure, sometimes they'd make a weapon viable, but then the same patch would break a different weapon, like when the dominator got buffed from horrible to decent in the same patch that made the slugger go from overtuned to worthless. Are you seriously defending it by praising the stratagem buffs that gave many underused stratagems higher armor penetration? FFS, *we all praised that*! It was a great patch! We were all happy about it! That change coupled with spawns having more chaff and less elites made the game the most fun than it'd been since launch! The reason everyone is going to town on the game right now is because that patch seemed to be promising that things would finally improve, the first truly good patch since release, and then on the very next one they went back to their old bullshit! It's well documented by now that the first game had much better balance with the weapons being actually overpowered, *to face the overwhelming odds with*. And the game was sold with a promise of that being the experience this time around too. It's also well analyzed by now that most of the gear is designed to fall short of breakpoints to "need teamwork to take down enemies", except teamwork should be in role division, with specialized loadouts able to take out specific threats by themselves; the game balance feels like it was tested on difficulty 5. If it were so simple, you wouldn't have the active playerbase reduced to barely a tenth of what it used to be, and with most of those remaining unhappy with the changes.

Counter Point: I wanna have fun, I can’t have that here in HD2. I don’t wanna spend my time not having fun.

Here is my take, as a player that played at launch and stopped then came back a week ago. I feel WEAK, My weapons don't kill anything bigger than trash in a reasonable time, I have to spam grenades and Stratagems to survive waves and even then theyre so weak they dont wipe the whole group. I get ragdolled from EVERYTHING that even looks in my direction.

Good video, could have milked it and made a few smaller ones for easier consumption by the tiktok generation.

this dude is the biggest boot licker

“Am I out of touch? No, it’s the millions of disgruntled players that are wrong.” This is a bad take. I am tired of excuses being made for bad balancing in games because “the game needs to be challenging, we can’t just buff everything!” The game cannot be challenging at the expense of fun. The game’s number one objective always is to be FUN. Weapons that feel like crap to use are not fun. Do not make your game a chore for the sake of challenge.

Exactly. Arrowhead is human. I don't agree with these patches, and I think they have to fix them, but they said they are. Arrowhead isn't just a floating head like Ubisoft, Arrowhead actually cares. Sad people are so self centered that they expect Arrowhead, and indie team, to be perfect.

AH is right? Yeah, he was.

yeah nah this is straight Copium

"a game for no one is a game no one play" Senzu the art of bean

Ya stepped in some shit with this video. Arrowhead has destroyed any trust or good will with players due to blatant lies and rudeness to the community. Literally every patch has introduced. More cyberbugs than the meridia supercolony spawned terminids. I didn't pay for an alpha or beta game. Now the game has so many crashes I struggle to actually complete a level 4 mission without disconnects or crashes.

Yeah tour just ranting. Your opinion sucks, literally just trying to justify every nerf. crap content like this is why KZbin use to have a counter on the dislike button