if you get into KH here what you need to know IT IS confusing Go and release order no exceptions different games are cutscene compilation movies easier to go through There is a card game called chain of Memories watch the cutscenes on KZbin do not play the game whatsoever Play the games in release order. KH2FM and Days are in the wrong order in the collection. Play them as I've listed them. KH 1.5+2.5 Collection: KH Final Mix (2002) KH Re:Chain of Memories (2004) KH2 Final Mix (2006) KH 358/2 Days (2009) [Cutscene movie] KH Birth by Sleep Final Mix (2010) KH Re:Coded (2011) [Cutscene movie] KH 2.8 Collection: KH Dream Drop Distance HD (2012) KH X Back Cover (2017) [Movie] KH 0.2 A Fragmentary Passage (2017) KH3 + ReMind DLC (2019-2020) KH Union X (2016-2021) (Shutdown mobile game, cutscenes only) [KHUX Cutscene Playlist] / [Fandub of KHUX Part 1] [Fandub of KHUX Part 2] KH Melody of Memory (2020) (Rhythm game) [KHMoM Cutscenes] KH Dark Road (2020-2022) (Mobile game) [KHDR Cutscene Playlist] Upcoming Unreleased Games: KH Missing-Link (Mobile game) KH4 goodnight and good bye

Man, nobody told me Tingle was a pimp. 😳

This “Ride cloning” glitch has so much meme potential, I love it! Awesome documentation by the way!

The four sword trilogy should really be rejected as canon. It ruins everything, especially the ending of Twilight Princess.

just started a new playthrough and was wondering how someones first run might be glad it was your vid

It is easy to explain why the time line splits in those instances because a thing that is in the future went to the password does not belong causing problems

But if Link defeated Demise in a self-correcting timeline, wouldn't the godess statue go back to the sky in the present? The statue only falls to the ground in timelines where the Imprisoned is still alive in the present. It is pretty clear that time travel in Skyward Sword doesn't make any sense, so why is it so hard to believe that the gate of time can cause all three; loops, self-corrections and timeline splits.

one interesting extra variable between them all are that most of them are physical time travel, whereas ocarina's is specifically MENTAL time travel, the only thing that really moves is his mind/consciousness, (and or items) and are put into the body of their past/future self. However, in other instances like totk and skyward sword, the time traveller is PHYSICALLY traveling (their age stays the same and they aren't taking the place of their past self)

One easy way to prove that this isn’t the same timeline as every other game is the fact that there are so many species and sub species that seem to be missing from the game whether that be enemies are monsters or just regular people

What If Akkala Citadel is the Eastern Palace or Great Palace from the LOZ 2 and 🔗 to the past

Realising there’s a 10k time gap between all the other games and breath of the wild really fixes everything by giving us an excuse to go ‘eh, it just moved’

I know that I'm a bit late to this video but I feel the need to mention that there is a fourth optional use of the time gate in skyward sword, I'm not quite sure what time travel it fits under. After travelling back in time for the last fight with Girahim and subsequent showdown with demise, before initiating the final fight while demise is waiting you can go back to the future to finish up any quests or prepare for the battle. Again not quite sure how that fits in, but I thought I'd mention it.

There's actually a crenel peak in the East of Hyrule Field and if you put hyrule Castle around The castle in BOTWTOTK or hyrule field, the picori woods line up pretty nicely with the entrance to the lost woods. Lake hylia sits where it should.

honestly theories are just for fun, idc how consistent they are, hell idec if they line up w known canon understandings, it’s just ppl having fun brain storming about their fav lil franchise, whatever it may be, i don’t have to agree w a theory I don’t like but i still enjoy them, sometimes they’re utter nonsense to me but click perfectly for someone else, sometimes they’re full of holes that can’t just be skimmed over for the die hards, sometimes they’re as close to ironclad as you get, but who really cares how correct it is as long as ppl are having fun 😎

This didn't make sense when i first watched it. Now that I'm watching it again. It makes sense.

My head cannon for time travel towards the end of SS (which might have been the intention but got worded wrongly or something else) is that Ghirahim take Zelda back to the past (with Link and Groose following) always happens (bootstrap theory) because when Link defeats Demise, his consciousness is sealed in the MS, but his power is still present, creating the Imprisoned, and Zelda still needs to be present in the past to hold the seal long enough for Link to destroy the Imprisoned in the future (or Zelda’s present timeline). Then Zelda doesn’t need to hold the seal, but Ghirahim still takes Zelda to the past to resurrect Demise, and Link and Groose follow, thus creating a loop (which also means that Ghirahim is also stuck in time loop where he keeps dying in the past). The MS being left in the past and appearing back in the present can also be easily explained. In the past, the pedestal is brought up by Impa, (while Link was outside) who presumably brought it back down after the three head back to the present. Present Impa then brought it back after Link went to go the past to follow Ghirahim. I’m chopping Zelda not being kept in stasis at the end to be a developer oversight that wasn’t noticed. For the case of Link planting the tree (as stated by someone else in the comments) it’s because we are seeing the event from Links perspective. Also the Gate of Time disappears at the end, showing that it’s purpose has been fulfilled and that Link planting the tree to grow the fruit and defeating/separating Demise was always supposed to happen and now that it’s over, it isn’t needed. At the same time this happened (which would be when Groose, Zelda, and Link go back to the present) the Gate of Time in the past becomes inactive (waiting for it to be activated by the MS). With MM, no matter how many times Link goes back in time, Termina is always destroyed and Link (and possibly the Heros Spirit) will always disappear from the timeline. Honestly every instance of Link going back in time in MM feels like a better explanation to the creation of the downfall timeline instead of how it currently is. Termina is said to be a dream or alternate world but isn’t by the end which is whole other case of worms. Had this all typed out before but it didn’t show up for some reason so I had to retype it.

having me on the rules for 8 minutes is a great job, gg

Still waiting for map theory part 3 for echo of wisdom

Hopefully we do get a timeline where the Hero of Time doesn't go back 7 years.

I love this metaphor

I always thought that the Imprisoned that you fight in the present in Skyward Sword was a lingering remnant of Demise that took form after Demise’s death in the past and had to be sealed, and what the present day Imprisoned was actually after in the temple of time wasn’t Zelda, but the Master Sword that had Demise’s consciousness sealed inside it. A lot of the inconsistencies in SS could be fixed if the developers would simply rewrite a few lines and had the Tree of Life in the present temple from the start of the game. A remake or an anime adaptation could fix all this.

Ok while I do think you have some valid points, If Ganondorf was sealed underneath the castle for thousands of years, he could not have been reborn. As seen with Wind Waker Ganondorf, who is Ocarina of Time Ganondorf after being sealed in the sacred realm. So, it COULD NOT have been prior to any of the other games as a prequel, because then Ganondorf would not have been reborn in any title until after ToTK. Which only further points to the theory that it's a coalesced timeline. AND, I will remind you of the events of Wind Waker, Phantom Hourglass, and Spirit Tracks. They found a new continent and set up hyrule (which was relatively empty in that timeframe) on that new continent, which would explain why hyrule was being founded by Rauru the Zonai, after it was likely Destroyed by Malladus. And why the springs aren't in their proper positions or why the forgotten temple was "Remade" in the same shape of the old temple.

I don't think sand sharks are weird... the sea becomes a desert and life finds a way this is a fantasy game. I do think the lake should be further to the west than that though closer to where that low area is in gerudo desert. If only there were a real world phenomenon to explain where the water went. Its also possible that the ground literally moves around little by little because plate technonics or abattle between gods could have pushed a land mass further away up into the sky or into another dimension.

My personal theory on the other maps is that lowrule, termina, and the world of the ocean king take place in the alternate time lines of the same more unstable kingdom. Each of the game do take place in different hyrulian time lines a link between world is in the fallen timeline majoras mask is in the child timeline and phantom hourglass could have been floded just like it is in its hyrulian counterpart.

Great video but I will not forgive you for this * business

I honestly love the theory that the Hytopians dye their hair before going into battle, it's both appropriately silly and would be fun flavor text. Also wheres that map video?!

46:18 this would be so funny out of context

The solution to it all is that both Hyrule Warriors games are canon and reset the timeline, merging it all into incoherent timeline instead of three incoherent timelines.

i will say the issue with time travel in ooc is that when link travels back and forth its a constant 7 year loop. when he goes back or forward in time via the master sword he doesnt go back to the same day he pulled the master sword he goes back 7 years exactly. the key component isnt the ocarina its the master sword. but when zelda uses her powers mixed with the ocarina of time to send link back to the past the timeline splits there because of a mixture of 1 link didnt go back to the past via the master sword it stays with him and he doesnt go back specifically 7 years he goes back to before things happened effectively breaking the timeline into 2. the adult timeline where everything had already happened and now there is no longer the master sword in said timeline as well as the triforce of courage breaks due to link no longer existing in that timeline and the child timeline where now the master sword does exist and because link magically has the triforce of courage with him it causes the divine prank where the triforces of power and wisdom are automatically given to their respective holders ganondorf and zelda. the only questions i ever have that arent really explained but its up to i guess player assumption is what happened to the master sword in the child timeline why isnt it there in the temple of time why arent there 2 swords in said timeline and my assumption is ooc came out before the concepts or ideas for ww and tp were even thought of so the notion of there being 2 master swords was never a thing but i feel like the notion of the master sword no longer existing in ww was thought of because you have to empower the master sword so it can stop ww's ganondorf. side note while i love ooc as a game it holds a special place in my heart i have to say i absolutely abhor time travel in any form of media. its never used in a way that is wholely satisfying and it always serve to create more questions than it ever answers. ooc does it well for the most part but even they leave room for questions in the end, especially when you bring up the downfall timeline i despise that timeline because it makes no sense its a what if timeline thats considered canon either make it non canon or make the timeline split make sense dont just leave it as a what if it doesnt work.

Wow!

why so condescending in this video opposed to the last one?...

44:08 I hate to break it to you, but plenty of even the very movie you used as a reference, Back To The Future, even saw risk of the timeline completely changing. Because as you said, it's a closed loop. So yeah, it corrects changes that happen primarily IN THAT TIMELINE, however, since we DON'T see the drastic changes that would've resulted in Demise getting sealed, this contradicts your "the timeline doesn't care" argument. The change was so drastic that it possibly results in a time anomaly rather than a closed loop. The changes made were only to keep THAT timeline intact, the HERO OF THE SKY'S timeline intact. So in a way, you'd be right, the timeline DOESN'T care, just that it doesn't care about the timeline split created here, especially if it creates a timeline where Demise is already defeated.

I have a different theory: the other two Links are from the other two timelines. All three of them are from Hyrule, but they're actually from parallel Hyrules.

Echoes of Wisdom kinda messes with the A Link To The Past placement, since the desert from ALTTP is indeed the gerudo desert

I grew up with lego star wars 2 on ps2 and i love it i cherish it

So the bee gun can shoot fireballs but what are the parameters that must be met for fire rather than bees? Is this based on intent? Do you need to douse the bees in gasoline in order to produce fireballs?

Didn’t ganondorf destroy hyrule castle at the end of twilight princess? Wouldn’t that explain the move?

so... what you're telling me it that skyward sword does indeed lead to a timeline split, nice!

Conclusion time travel is really really stupid

a zelda video made by a mad schizophrenic talking about bees for the first 2 minutes of the video. 10/10

Love your intro theme. Pitfall the mayan adventure is an awesome game. Also all your zelda videos have excellent points. Keep up the good work.

Ngl I was felt in lover with her

I know I'm late to this video, but with all time travel, a new timeline is made; there are just no games on those timelines.

Aww, just missed it