what do you mean 4RWS and 6RWS? 4 aim down sight rws and 6 when not ads, or acceleration?
@SuperTopmasterАй бұрын
Whoops, I guess I wasn't clear enough in the description. I meant 4-6 RWS. I use RawAccel for mouse acceleration.
@SuperTopmasterАй бұрын
That said, I bumped up my sens to 6-8 RWS
@Foodie882 ай бұрын
The demonstration is not very accurate. Tank is only better in this demonstration because of the mistakes made on the modern side. Modern is actually faster, but less precise - however, that level of precision is not required for the assault course. It speaks for itself that glitchless speedruns use modern controls while glitched speedruns use tank (you need the precision of tank to reliably execute some of the harder tricks).
@jackmurphy86962 ай бұрын
Are yall still playing?
@SuperTopmasterАй бұрын
not nowadays, sorry. But there's a thievery discord if you want to find people to play
@jackmurphy8696Ай бұрын
@@SuperTopmaster Send me that please
@SuperTopmasterАй бұрын
discord.gg/WP47EJeb
@leviathan-supersystem3 ай бұрын
Very impressive! How did you get that announcer in QL?
@SuperTopmasterАй бұрын
My friend made it! His user is tekgeekster on youtube.
@senritsujumpsuit60213 ай бұрын
The way you kept running around foes an somehow just living mood
@xenojiva773 ай бұрын
What is this
@SuperTopmaster3 ай бұрын
It's Quake Live my friend!
@Pyke_3 ай бұрын
Modern controls don't work properly because it will need a camera fix too.
@SuperTopmaster3 ай бұрын
I thought the camera got fixed in some recent update? (in context to small corridors)
@ravaszvorosroka3 ай бұрын
Impressive
@SuperTopmaster3 ай бұрын
hehe
@hakunamatata32144 ай бұрын
First playthrough I played with tank controls but remastered graphics, second playthrough old graphics but modern controls. Third playthrough imma play it with modern controls andremastered graphics 😎
@anunnacy4 ай бұрын
When new players wanna use the alternative modern controls, that's fine with me. But I just wanna say.. from what I've seen so far in Let's Plays, any time they get into fights against enemies, you can put on "Yakety Sax / Benny Hill Theme". Well, at least it's good entertainment I guess. 😂
@SuperTopmaster3 ай бұрын
I'd just chalk it up to modern controls not being modern enough, but a good middle ground for the old Tomb Raider games :D
@SBD2294 ай бұрын
The games were meant for tank controls, modern controls weren't necessary in the first place and basically show offs, look I can spin around
@thane14484 ай бұрын
This was so fun.
@Mogjiz5 ай бұрын
I think this is the closes you can get to M&K like precision on controllers and the future console FPS's should push for. Shame that many controller players are too stubborn to re-learn this input type.
@noonyabeezniss49115 ай бұрын
controller is fine if you turn off all the damn assists like aim assist, slowdown rotation, sticky aim etc i use a controller on PC exclusively and can regularly get to the top of leader boards on games that dont have lobby input segregation plus who the hell wants multiple controllers for different games? controller is perfect for many games as is and doesn't need changing at all, they push it they are gonna have a hard time, really hard time
@SuperTopmaster4 ай бұрын
@@noonyabeezniss4911 Unfortunately very few controller players would even consider stick-only aiming with no aim assist. So we'll really never know how well it would perform at its greatest potential like we are right now with mouse aiming. Aim assist truly is quite the poison, isn't it?
@senritsujumpsuit60213 ай бұрын
@@SuperTopmaster that is good for yull who use it easier clout
@juanRodriguez-ux3xb5 ай бұрын
We need more videos like this showing ppl that the controls are fine sad that the biggest TR channels all hated them and didn’t even give them a fair shake
@shawngreene4905 ай бұрын
Witnessed!
@senritsujumpsuit60213 ай бұрын
this game being played with this controller just feels so odd hehe
@rodgercross91445 ай бұрын
🌸 *promo sm*
@sandyclaws1015 ай бұрын
The camera on the modern controls is annoying especially in small rooms. Tank is superior for me. (Having played tomb raider in ps1 years ago).
@antoninogreco33245 ай бұрын
U losed time with modern control.... i with modern control did it in 1.14-1.16, with tank control 1.17-1.18 like u... with modern control u can do any jumps in better ways and u don't did it... u losed time when jumped before in many moments 🤷🏼
@MoonyTheBat5 ай бұрын
Nice snipes, dunno why I'm not subscribed to you lol
@SuperTopmaster5 ай бұрын
Oh shit hey moony lol
@Hunter-ib9ks5 ай бұрын
I would like to say I'm pretty good with the tank controls now, but the game is noticeably slower without modern controls, as turning around and making direction changes is much easier with modern. Tank controls are incredibly satisfying to pull off well though. Especially combat, and my favorite is fighting human enemies with the run past them and roll + Shotgun strat
@kevv955 ай бұрын
they really butchered the swimming with tank controls especially in TR1, Tomb1Main still holds strong
@cido6765 ай бұрын
Was unrealistic how fast she turned underwater now modern controls are here so u can turn even faster even do a full 360 in half a second 😂
@AdamDawson35 ай бұрын
Modern controls look awful
@overheatedeskim0545 ай бұрын
0:41 you clearly went for further reaching dive with tank controls giving you the advantage on the timer so it's kind of a pointless test.
@MGNKRN6 ай бұрын
Modern control is better, you lose time in the dive.
@Arrow_in_the_Knee6 ай бұрын
And of course you can hear good Winston and the clattering dishes (or are those his bones?) in the background.
@ricardolopes52816 ай бұрын
I only use modern controls, if you get used to it you can do it quicker than in tank controls. At the end of the day it's just a preference I guess.
@therunawaykid6523Ай бұрын
Yeah I also much prefer modern controls trying to play tomb raider chronicles on a ps1 emulator is painful as simple platforming becomes ridiculously difficult so glad the later tr games didn’t have them tomb raider legend controlled great - crash bandicoot and Mario 64 didn’t have tank controls 😐😐
@Nah-T-EBei6 ай бұрын
Tank controls are best, but switching to modern controls was helpful when avoiding traps.
@MakutaArty19876 ай бұрын
bait
@SuperTopmaster6 ай бұрын
bait
@ca75786 ай бұрын
Plz make a video on how to install the mod, everyone would greatly appreciate it!!!
@SuperTopmaster6 ай бұрын
OH sorry man. In retrospect, I should have left my installation guide in the description. I've updated it now for your perusal!
@mckennacarson5366 ай бұрын
I could never get Lara to run, jump, and grab a ledge with modern controls. Not sure why
@SuperTopmaster6 ай бұрын
Sounds like a timing issue. Lara requires a shorter run-up for the running jump compared to tank controls.
@saramystik32846 ай бұрын
Tank controls for jumping, Modern controls for chases/boulders
@VideoDiscThings6 ай бұрын
Interesting comparison video! I have not even tried the modern controls yet (I have completed the first Tomb Raider and Unfinished Business so far with original controls), I grew up with the tank controls and they are second nature to me (on a controller), although I don't think I could have ever learnt using the keyboard controls. I wonder which would take more time to learn - modern controls for the remaster or tank controls with a keyboard...
@SuperTopmaster6 ай бұрын
Probably tank controls with a keyboard, in your case. Modern controls took a bit of experimenting and researching to understand its benefits and quirks, because the developers don't explain or even tell you that they exist!
@bossboix69326 ай бұрын
Im actually really glad they implemented modern controls, I’ve gotten through the first and second game and now I’m halfway through the third with the modern controls, but I will have to give tank controls a go at some point, it’s gonna take some time to learn them 😅
@thetroll_gamer20044 ай бұрын
Bro, yo me acostumbre el primer día, tampoco es pa tanto... 😅
@EdwardAsens3 ай бұрын
I play since i was a kid the only option (tank controls) now with the remaster i learn moderns and yes they are so much better and guns draw a little bit faster
@bossboix69323 ай бұрын
@@EdwardAsens that’s awesome to hear! 😁
@04287336 ай бұрын
I like tank control better cause it makes the d pad viable
@SuperTopmaster6 ай бұрын
This is why we should have a hybrid where modern-style movement is on analog, and tank-style movement is on d-pad.
@DaxterMaster6 ай бұрын
While I was looking forward to modern controls as I love how LAU controls, I couldnt even get to the first jump in TR 2 without falling over and over. With Tank controls i could step back and jump with precision. But good to see some people got the hang of it
@SuperTopmaster6 ай бұрын
Yeah, the game's timing and physics seem to give tank controls a pretty good advantage when it comes to methodical platforming. Once you learn the timing of Lara's running jump, I suggest to switch back to modern controls and try it feel out the timing, especially when you jump from different angles.
@Hunter-ib9ks5 ай бұрын
Modern control long jumps are legitimately so annoying. I wish we had tank controls on dpad in modern mode.
@slowedvsbattle6 ай бұрын
sorry, but you trolled hard with modern, they are clearly more agile.
@SuperTopmaster6 ай бұрын
I'd agree more if the camera didn't freak out in small corridors 😅, TR1 on modern controls was fun, though!
@slowedvsbattle6 ай бұрын
@@SuperTopmaster they fixed it on the patch, didn't they?
@SuperTopmaster6 ай бұрын
@@slowedvsbattle I've been busy with other games so I didn't notice, but I did a brief test in Natla's Mines. They did a good job fixing the camera!
@pyrrhicvictory69786 ай бұрын
Modern controls are better now i just got a 1:16 time with the new update.
@SuperTopmaster6 ай бұрын
Very nice! I'll have to play TR2 and TR3 once I find some time. Have you had any issues with the camera freaking out in small spaces like corridors in the new update?
@pyrrhicvictory69786 ай бұрын
@@SuperTopmaster I had an issue sometimes with swimming in small/tight places. But apart from that I had no issues. Today I did speedrun on Tomb Raider 1 getting all collectibles, secrets, floor tiles, I managed it in just over 3 hours playing entire game with modern controls. Sometimes I do think tank controls are better for certain parts, but I felt like overall modern controls were better and far easier to speedrun with.
@ac-wu7jq6 ай бұрын
Tank control are better for one simple reason you need precision in this game
@SuperTopmaster6 ай бұрын
I'm not so sure about that. Maybe I'll get around to playing TR1's New Game+ to see how true this statement is.
@Konic_and_Snuckles6 ай бұрын
My god, the Modern Controls look so goofy underwater.
@tasoganedude6 ай бұрын
They should've implimented a hybrid; Modern control on analog stick, tank control on the D-pad.
@Mario-qq4in6 ай бұрын
That's a phenomenal idea 💡
@PassionataDance5 ай бұрын
I use tank controls on the running movement on the analog and walk steps on d-pad for fine walk control and strafe but a hybrid would be interesting.
@Andy_0L3 ай бұрын
That's exactly what I've been thinking all along, it would be awesome
@KamosSoul3 ай бұрын
Just like Resident Evil 1 and 0 does ❤
@MAMorenoАй бұрын
Yes, that would be ideal. There are spots where the tank controls are easily superior. Those times are not when you're just trying to walk around a corner without feeling like you're controlling a robot.
@Hi7M4n6 ай бұрын
It misses a button to change tank/modern on the run. Combat is better with modern, platforming is better with tank. Along with a button of quick save hahahaha
@HollywoodHornet6 ай бұрын
Tank controls or bust!
@guilhermecaiado53846 ай бұрын
No back and side flips makes the tank look inferior. When in reality you are not stuck in the unidimensioinal over the shoulder perspective.
@SuperTopmaster6 ай бұрын
Care to explain the advantage to using back/side flips outside of combat?
@guilhermecaiado53846 ай бұрын
@@SuperTopmaster The game is a 3d platformer, just like 2d you can jump forward or backwards, in 3d you can jump on 4 directions. There are alot of places that require you to make a combination of jumps on all directions on all games of the franchise.
@SuperTopmaster6 ай бұрын
@@guilhermecaiado5384 I haven't really encountered anything in TR1 that "require" me to use those jumps. I'd like an example of that. Perhaps there are good examples in TR2 and TR3, but I have yet to play those games.
@guilhermecaiado53846 ай бұрын
@@SuperTopmaster Never finished TR1. I was too young when it came out and though anniversary was the superior version, so i finished it several times on ps2, psp and ps3. Recently played lots of 2, and lots of secrets requires a combination of direcional jumps. Even tho the main game requires it on timed stuff and platforming. Some people just cant finish temple of xian because of a backwards flip and grab they cant perform.
@charg1nmalaz0r515 ай бұрын
@@SuperTopmaster well back and sideflips and get you to platforms quicker and easier in certain scenarios compared to turning and a forward jump. The side ones are great for quickly pulling a lever jumping sideways then running forwards through a door. Or sometimes you can jump to a ledge, backflip back to safety and unload into an enemy without turning or moving the camera. But the most important use of these jumps is to make lara look fancy, kind of like the handstand ledge climb, you can live without it but it looks cool lol
@ublenos1376 ай бұрын
I've been wondering if this was possible, great to see it in action lmfao
@Canal2ESE6 ай бұрын
Tank controls all the way
@runarvollan6 ай бұрын
When 1 step back to long jump is more complicated than spinning her around to get enough steps😛