Thanks! I believe I also had that shudder in the beginning, but a few hundreds kilometers in this was gone (and replaced by a clunk, that was recently fixed during a service). Have you tried cleaning the brake discs ? Maybe that would be helpful too. Keeping my fingers crossed for a solution. Cheers!

Hey mate and thank you for the comment. Interestingly, I am considering some sort of 501/701 once again... it is truly an awesome machine. One reflection: if I was to do the build for me once more, I would strongly consider Adventure Spec fairing instead of my rally tower. It is much simpler and lighter solution for a bit of wind protection and having navigation in the sight area. Just a thought to share :) Best!

and it makes perfect sense! Cheers mate.

Hey there, to be honest I was considering T7 for a very long time. Finally I gave up after a few longer test drives - it was far too top heavy for me (I actually dropped the bike at the dealership....), the way the exhaust is mounted to the frame is basically a total mistake and yes... I need a good cruise control for those long highway miles... T7 has some positive sides like engine and reliability, but besides that the rest is already not so cool in 2024... Cheers!

+1 I have stock exhausts on both of my bikes exactly for that reason. I do not want to create any unnecessary noise when I ride in the countryside... even with the stock pipe on 890 I recently scared off the horses and that didn't feel right... Cheers!

Thanks for your comment! 701/690 is a great platform, I absolutely loved my Husky! If you can keep your Aprilia for some time as a second bike, that might be a good idea if you also like to have longer road rides. I finally moved from 701 to 890 platform for exactly that reason. But if most of your riding is off the beaten track, you'd love it :) Cheers!

Hey there and thank you for your comment and questions. 100% agree with the aftermarket parts, some of them are simply required to go off-road. Manufacturer is selling a bike with many parts being approved by the accountants, not riders... In regards to luggage - yes, I have tried a few solutions and my observations are: 21 brothers 40L (21brothers.pl/produkt/rogal-40l/) this is bulletproof bag, very good quality material and because of that quite heavy compared to Kriega OS. I was using that bag on my CRF250 Rally and during my trips I was not taking this bag off my bike, as this was either easy or fast to to. Because of that one morning I found out that some robber was going through my bag during the night (I didn't leave anything important in the bag and the parking space was on a closed parking, but still there was someone interested what is inside...) Kriega OS (my bags are 2x18l) - a bit less space (-4l vs 21 brothers), but very easy to mount and take off too - literally it takes 30 seconds.. And now I am taking bags with me into the room. My only concern is that the base is quite sharp on edges and will scratch your frame or plastics (you need to protect the whole surface with something). And my tower was not Rade Garage - it is Adventure Bike from Belgium. And yes, I was working on it with my good friend and we did it ourselves. I believe it is doable in one weekend if you are not even experienced with mechanics. Cheers!

Hey there and thank your the comment. Fun fact, the fuel consumption is very different on this bike: I was able to get down to 3,4 l/100km in Morroco where it was a very slow kind of easy riding. 4,3-4,5 is my everyday consumption. 5,5 in on highway with 130km/h set on cruse on regular fuel (and regular is 95 octanes here in Poland, premium is 98) - it is working a bit north of 5k rpm on 6th gear (red line is at 9k rpm, so you still have plenty of space for acceleration). No issues with high fender whatsoever at highway speeds. No worries. Cheers!

That is interesting - as I see in the 2023 Manual (23_3214754_en_OM.pdf), page 97, 13.9 Checking the chain tension, point #1: Raise motorcycle with rear lifting gear (page 94). So as per User Manual to my bike - it it not on the side stand. Best!

Thank you very much for all of your hints - very useful! I will test 'attach to roads' feature this weekend - most of my time using the app is following .gpx tracks off-road, so I wonder how will it work ("attach to roads _off-road_ ;) ). And this is super interesting - do you know what are the default differenced between car profile and motorcycle profile? Best regards!

@CykloGamonie welcome ... the profile differences are things like vehicle parameters which is taken into account by the routing engine. Best to do a side by side profile comparison of each of the standard profiles.

@CykloGamonie the attach to Roads definitely works even on single tracks in the mountains

Thanks for sharing! That is comforting to know, especially with the cam-shaft-gate rising in social media so quickly. I really hope KTM will address this problem as a responsible company should. Best!

this is a 2023 model. Cheers!

@@CykloGamonie thanks for clarification. Title says 2025. Haven’t seen any literature on 2025 models yet.

Hey there and thank you for the comment. Surprisingly, the Norden 901 Expedition I tested had a more noticeable heating issue than the 890 Adv R. Both bikes generate a lot of heat due to the Euro 5 emissions standard and large catalytic converter, especially when riding slowly or at stops. So yes, heat is an issue, but with current emission regulations it will probably be something we need to get used to... :/

Thank you so much for your comment :) in regards to heat I just wrote this reply for one of the comments: Surprisingly, the Norden 901 Expedition I tested had a more noticeable heating issue than the 890 Adv R. Both bikes generate a lot of heat due to the Euro 5 emissions standard and large catalytic converter, especially when riding slowly or at stops. So yes, heat is an issue, but with current emission regulations it will probably be something we need to get used to... :/ But honestly, even with such a ultra hot summer like the last one - I was noticing the heat, but it never reached a level of being a problem. I was in Morocco, I was riding when there was 36 degrees C on the highway and still it was business as usual.

@@CykloGamonieThank you so much for the reply. And I havent ridden any 890 yet, but I guess that the heat felt is the airflow directed by the radiator fans. That is what I see and guess diving into the design. So, unless the fans run, no heat is felt.

that could be true. I can surely say - heat is noticeable, but (at least for me) not an issue. It was much worse on Norden 901 - practically same bike, but heat management very different. Best! :)

that is a super cool hint, thank you! I didn't know that :)

Hey there, thank you for the comment and your hint on reducing handlebar vibrations. Sounds good!

Thanks 👍

2K sounds like really heavy use :) And now I also understand some manufactures producing a much harder tyres too (like Mitas). Thank you for the comment and best regards from Poland :)

Hey there, thank you for the comment and the question. I am not aware if OsmAnd can create a route (+navigation) along already exiting trails that are on the map... I assume that if you would choose 'walking' as a profile and select your destination that is on the other end of the trail... that might work, but I have no idea if there is a toggle to "follow that trail" in the options. Best!

Right, thanks! I have already checked the bolts on the steering dumper (as this was suggested before), head bolt is next. Best!

+1 When driving a car from point A to point B I still prefer Google Maps navigation, but for off-road + offline + .gpx following I haven't found anything better than OsmAnd+. Cheers!

Thank you for the tip. I will try to tighten it up and see the result. Cheers!

a to dobre pytanie! Jeśli jechałbym z całym sprzętem do campingu, to pewnie chętniej zrobiłbym polski TET na 890. W tym tygodniu jadę na krótki wypad z namiotem i całym szpejem do biwakowania i cieszę się, że pojadę 890tką. Jeśli to byłaby jedno-, dwudniowa wycieczka w wersji light ze spaniem na kwaterach -> chętniej na 701. Ale już na Nordkapp tylko i wyłącznie 890. Jechałem do Rumunii i z powrtotem na 701 - da radę to zrobić, ale... można wygodniej. Ja już dobiegam do 50tki, więc pewne aspekty związane z wygodą zaczynają nabierać znaczenia. Ważne jest też to, czy jedziesz sam czy w towarzystwie. A jeśli w towarzystwie, to jakie towarzystwo ma moto. Bo jeśli oni są też na siglach, to nikt nie będzie cisnął zbyt szybko na możliwości 701, ale jak już mają twiny, to będąc na 701 zwalniasz grupę (tak, ja wiem, można na tym moto pojechać szybko, ale po pierwsze to będzie strach w oczach, dojedziesz roztrzęsiony i tankowanie będzie co 150km). Myślę, że jazdy testowe dużo Ci wyjaśnią. Jeśli mogę podpowiedzieć, to też też 690 na autostradę i zobacz, czy przy 120-130 km/h nie ma dla Ciebie za dużo wibracji (mi od nich drętwiały ręce, więc zakładałem PHDS i było trochę lepiej). No i kanapa - w 690/701 to jest duży temat przy dłuższych wyprawach. Na 890 spędziłem 2 tyg w Maroko i ani razu nie było problemu z siedzeniem...

Dziękuję Ci bardzo. To mi bardzo dużo mówi. Szerokości

dzisiaj wpadł mi w oko artykuł na jednej ze stron opisujących platformę 690/701 i zgadzam się ze stwierdzeniem: "motocykl został stworzony z myślą o jednodniowych wycieczkach, więc jeśli przerobisz go na motocykl turystyczny ADV i okaże się niewygodny, możesz winić tylko siebie..." - tak dokładnie, nic dodać nic ująć :)

Jestem Tobie niezmiernie wdzięczny za pamięć i dodatkowe informacje. Wykorzystam Twoją cierpliwość i zadam jeszcze jedno pytanie. O Hondzie. Znam jej ograniczenia, ale chciałbym je pominąć. Wielu ludzi na Hondzie jeździ po świecie, pewnie ze względu na zaufanie i możliwość napraw. Jednak w pewnych aspektach jest podobna do 701 ( wąska kanapa, wielkość) . Czy można zatem wysnuć wniosek, że gdybym zdecydował się pojechać Hondą w długą podróż to równie dobrze, a może i lepiej będzie mi na 690 KTM?

a o której Hondzie rozmawiamy? O CRF 300 Rally?

Hey mate and this is like a cure to my soul to hear that there are trouble-free owners, as those camshaft groups are jumping on me far too often :) Happy to hear about your milage too, it is just about the same for me. Best!

dzięki Mirek. Jeśli faktycznie 80% czasu (lub przebiegu) będziesz spędzał w offie, to 690/701 będzie dobrym wyborem. Ja sprzedałem 701 tylko dlatego, że coraz więcej jeździłem dwupasmówkami, a czasem także z pasażerem. Wtedy 890 jest zdecydowanie lepsza niż 690/701. Ale jeśli Ty głównie jeździsz solo i w offie, to 690/701 da Ci mnóstwo frajdy. Czy między 701 a 890 jest duża różnica - w wolnych manewrach z pewnością tak, na korzyść 701. Ale jak już jadę 890 z prędkością większą niż 10km/h, to wrażenia z jazdy są zbliżone do 701. Dodam tylko, że nie jestem jakimś harpaganem w offie - jeżdżę w trasy typu TET czy ACT, czyli jest to takie offroadowanie typu adventure, a nie hard. Powodzenia w wyborach - oba motocykle są absolutnie super.

Dzięki wielkie za odpowiedź. Rób dalej filmy. Ja czekam. Pozdro

Dzięki :) to 690/701 to doskonały sprzęt, będziesz miał mnóstwo frajdy (i sporo rozterek w zakresie modyfikacji ;) )

I po długich rozterkach 890 czy 690 podjąłem decyzję. Idę taką drogą jak Ty Będzie 690 KTM Enduro R. Mam dwa pytania. Czy ten hiszpański wynalazek paliwowy naprawdę zmniejszył skłonność do gaśnięcia moto na niskich obrotach. Średnio to lubię w tym moto. Czy zmiana wydechu też w tym pomaga Czy tylko jest głośniej?

​@@kemirsz sorry za późną odpowiedź ale byłem trochę wyjęty z rzeczywistości. Jeśli chodzi o fuel dongle to są bardzo różne opinie. Z moich doświadczeń wynika że przy standardowym wydechu fuel dongle pomaga ale trzeba liczyć się ze wzrostem zużycia paliwa. Jeśli jednak zmienisz układ wydechowy, a zwłaszcza końcówkę wydechu, wtedy fuel dongle nie jest już potrzebny. Tylko wtedy wiadomo będzie trochę głośniej niż z fabrycznym wydechem, ale prawda jest też taka że fabryczny wydech bardzo ale to bardzo się grzeje.

Bardzo dziękuje. Bardzo mi pomogłeś, jestem Tobie niezmiernie wdzięczny. Wiem, że podjąłem najlepszą dla mnie decyzję, a Ty w dużym stopniu do tego się przyczyniłeś. Pozdrawiam serdecznie Mirek 14.09 odbieram maszynę.

Thank you! Going down a tooth on front sprocket - I will consider that. At the moment I am ultra happy with the bikes performance :) Best!

Thanks for sharing that is not only my chain, as I was quite confused with it :)

Keeping my fingers crossed for mine as well :) Thanks!

Thanks, will do!

Hej Tomek i dzięki za pytania. Jeśli chodzi o wysokość siodła w 890, to jest ono jednak trochę niżej niż w 701 (879mm vs 925mm). Przy moich 180cm wzrostu na obu motocyklach ogólnie podpieram się jedną nogą... ale tę niewielką różnicę jednak czuć na korzyść 890. Waga to zagadkowa sprawa - bo przy wolnych manewrach w garażu 890 wydaje się być krową w porównaniu do 701, ale jak już jedziesz więcej niż 10km/h, to różnice są zaskakująco minimalne. Także to zdecydowanie nie jest element dyskwalifikujący. W video zapomniałem o jednej rzeczy - ten silnik to piec, latem katalizator mocno grzeje w buty. Można usunąć, ale jeśli podróżuje się sporo przez Niemcy czy Austrię - to może kiedyś być kłopot. Z moich doświadczeń z oboma maszynami: 690/701 jest doskonała do jazdy w offie, ale na dłuższe przeloty autostradowe jest dość męcząca, zwłaszcza jeśli jedziesz w towarzystwie, które lubi przelotową powyżej 120 km/h. 890 nie jest tak poręczna w offie jak 701, ale nie ma dramatu. Trzeba ćwiczyć technikę jazdy i wszystko na tym motocyklu da się zrobić. Natomiast jest to o wiele bardziej uniwersalny moto niż 701. Jeśli tylko masz taką możliwość, weź oba na jazdy testowe. Jakiś czas temu KTM w Warszawie na Prymasa miał oba te sprzęty do testów. A jakbym mógł jeszcze jakoś pomóc, pisz śmiało. Pozdro!

@@CykloGamonie Dzięki. Dzwoniłem do dealera w Szczecinie i będę jeździł oboma. A mówiąc o silniku jako o piecu to masz na myśli 701, czy 890?

wiesz, co - w sumie oba mocno grzeją przez Euro5, ale 890 grzeje wyjątkowo intensywnie. Fajnie, że będziesz miał opcje pojeździć testowo. Nomen omen moja 890 pochodzi właśnie od dealera ze Szczecina (moto46) :)

Hey Jakub, thank you for the comment. That is very strange as probably all gpx files have a finish point, right? I also assume you have tested this with downloaded ready-to-use tracks like TET? if those are custom gpx'es - my only idea is to check to gpx track with the site gpx.studio.

Hey James and thank you for the question. After two years on Husky 701 with seat height at 925 mm, KTM with 879mm seems a bit more manageable, but without a doubt this is not a bike you can comfortably put two feet down on the ground (at least I can't). I've learnt to use one leg for all situations, also in off-road stuff. Confidence level is much lower than on my CRF250, but it is not discouraging me from riding ;) Best!

that is a cool hint, thank you! I will check if that also works on my current bike :) (F850GS is long gone, I sold it in 2021). Cheers!

Yeah, you are right. My experience from selling 701 with (I agree, in my opinion ;) reasonable and high quality mods was quite bad, but overall I absolutely agree with your point of view. Thank you for the comment, best!

I believe this is a very twisted point of view on freedom... There are far too many drunk drivers on the roads, I wish for even more random controls like that to filter those drunk drivers out and take their licences away too...

My pleasure, mate!

I definitely will very soon, thanks!

Thank you :)

Thank you very mich Milwriter, it was a pleasure to read your comment. In regards to riding with a passenger - I have two teenagers at home, that sometimes hop on my bike. No long distance trip together yet, but I think about weekend camping get away with one of my kids. If that will finally happen, I'll make sure to share reflections afterwards. Best!

Right, sounds reasonable. I am considering having a service soon, it will be 8k km since last one, so still far earlier than @15k. Thanks!

I agree. It would be kind to the engine if you were to change the oil twice as often as recommend, so around 7500km. It's easy enough to do, so you can do it yourself. You could skip the oil filter change during these interim oil changes.

even when you are riding on highways for few hours? or you do not ride highways for long distances? For me cruise control is a feature I would not buy an adventure bike without. Cheers!

@@CykloGamonie even 10h on highway… for what u need to put cruise control? I do a lot highways

well, at least to give my right wrist some rest. For me this is super comfortable when riding for few hours.

@@CykloGamonie very dangerous! Often people put hands somewhere else when using CC! I was doing 600km per day in last trip never had a problem w wrist. Not using CC

@@michsky46 There is no point in delving further into whether it is worth having or not having Cruise Control. But personally I like it and use it a lot bot on highway and in slow steady traffic ;)

Thank you, that is a cool hint!

@@CykloGamonie You’re welcome! I hope it helps!

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I will, I will, but so far bike works flawlessly. Fingers crossed.

No need until 30,000 for valves

It is just tighten the main bolt on the top 👍

I would also suggest headset bearing. KTM is not using the strongest bearing type. Not a big problem but requires attention now and then. I had to replace mine after 24k. It's great bike, happy for you.

it might be, I will definitely check for that. Thanks!

@@CykloGamonie I noticed that clunk when my 890Adv R had only 400 miles . At 500 miles the bike was not stable on the motorway abowe 70 mph . After inspection I found loose steering damper ( 2 bolts connecting to the frame were loose ) and of course additional loose headstock bearings . A bit too early for my liking, but after eliminating all those loose ...everything works as it should again ;)

Thank you for the tip - I have just checked the steering dumper screws (including the two connecting to the frame) and all of them were properly tighten (or at least 8Nm+). So maybe my clank is related to the headset bearing. I will ask the service to check that. Thanks!