I was a crew chief on heavies in the '70s and '80s including 141s. Our wing started an experimental program to address the gaps/differences between the crew chief and flight engineer preflight checklists, which all too frequently resulted in discrepancies being found by the FEs only an hour or so before block time instead of by a CC several hours before. A handful of crew chiefs were selected to team up with a flight engineer, one team per shift, and all we did was carry a copy of the flight schedule, circle the "spot" times on our shift (four hours before block time), then go around to each of those aircraft at spot time and do a full flight engineer's preflight. If a flight control pack was going to leak, better it did it at spot time rather than after crew show when a pack leak or similar all but guaranteed a busted block time. A side benefit was that CCs and FEs got to know each other much better, a lot of info and experience was exchanged, and team work developed. The AF was hard up for FEs at that time, I was eligible to cross train, and some of the FE's told me I should do it. It really started sounding good to me and I seriously considered it. However, not that she discouraged it, in fact she was always very supportive, but I had a wife and two preschool aged kids at the time and I thought me being away so much wouldn't fair to her and the kids, so I didn't do it. Not that I regret the path I ended up taking, but I sometimes think about not doing the FE thing and wonder on what other paths it would have taken me. As for the spot team experiment, eventually they got enough of us checked out on it that they stopped assigning FEs to it and left it up to teams of us CCs to do it on our own each shift, kind of like how tow team operated. I was an E-4 then E-5 at that time and got assigned to be the shift's spot team leader pretty frequently, which I enjoyed for the freedom and change of pace. We/they were still doing it when I got a BOP approved, reenlisted, and PCS'ed to SAC about a year later. I don't know if and for how long it continued after I was gone, but it was a very good idea IMO.

Ah, the good old IE, where in the '80s we used to say "Never trust air you can't see"

Hi, I flew C-9s at Scott, Rhein-Main, and Scott again as a Reservist. You’re right, it’s a Scott bird. It was on a training mission to Europe during the time of this video. It’s definitely the old Tempelhof AB. I bet we flew together😊

@@ipajbell Chuck Howell, here. Rhein Main 73-75 and Scott 75-77. What is your name?

That is Berlin Tempelhof. Cheers from West-Berlin

@@carstenlamping8515 I flew into Tempelhof many times in 1973-75 but I wouldn't recognize it (Tempelhof) because of the time that has passed. I left the AirForce in 1977. That doesn't explain the aircraft MAC and other markings in USAFE. We didn't fly missions over the Atlantic in our airplanes. It is possible the airplane was on loan for some reason from MAC to USAFE. IF you know more on this, I would appreciate you sharing this with me. Thanks

General Merrill McPeak. He preferred "air superiority grey".

The green camo wrap was probably my favorite just from a military coolness POV, but from any other standpoint it didn't make much sense. Were C-141s and C-5s ever going to try to hide in the woods? If you want them less visible, something that does that in their natural habitat (the air) would make more sense, and flat light gray was more effective for that than woodland camo. Woodland camo makes no more sense for heavy aircraft than it would for Navy warships.

Not much difference in the sound, but there are some differences in the engines themselves. There are many variants of the JT3D/TF33 family. The TF33-P-7 engines on the 141's had heavy-ass bifurcated main cowlings to duct the bypass air around the engine and dump it into the exhaust section rather than just dumping it overboard aft of the compressor section like most fans. Those ducted cowlings helped contribute to the P-7's thrust rating, which was higher than all but one other variant in the series. Some think the ducted main cowlings made the P-7's sound different than JT3D, the military version of which was the TF33-PW-102. They sound very similar to each other IMO. Both have that typical low bypass fan growl at higher EPR settings.

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@joesar5879 Actually I do.

As a 141 CC in the '70s, I spent way too much time at No Hope Pope, including on one occasion as part of a team that got stranded there for 47 days on what was supposed to be an 11 day deployment. We humped around the clock for 11 days then did nothing but sit and wait for 36 days with no mission and no idea from day to day what were supposed to do or if/when we were being recalled. It's funny now, but it wasn't so funny then.

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