The most beautiful 2 minutes of music ever

The bassst is Tom Kennedy. Tom performed on all 3 of Bill Connors mid 80's albums.

Its from the 70’s

And it still kicks ass 50 yrs later!

Can you imagine the stuff he and Banks couldve created over these past 50 yrs had they done so!

Now not so hidden after books about Genesis's history stated his big input in the music & lyrics of the band's early recordings.

You’re right. These songs are fantastic caretakers of the early Genesis sound, moods and sensibilities.

Definitely the same vibe/aura/mystique/artistry/ and most importantly the love of early Genesis in storytelling via music

I don't blame him. I fully get it.

No he isn't. Holdsworth could never have played a solo as melodic as this, or with as few notes. The similarity is in the sound and the voicings, but not in the content or the compositions. I'm not saying who I think is better, only that they are quite distinct if you listen closely.

@@musopaul5407 Keep dreaming. It's clear to anyone not totally delusional that he is putting in huge effort to straight up copy Allah's sound. Allan was even kinda offended by it, saying something to the effect of: "I liked Bill Connors when he sounded like Bill Connors. Now, I just don't know..." It was obvious to everyone. Sorry, bro. There is so much of Allah's phrasing style, tone, everything being emulated here. I dig it though. Holdsworth is my musical hero, so I enjoy having more stuff like this available to listen to.

@@lex.cordis Thanks for calling me delusional! I consider myself a huge Holdsworth fan, in fact I was probably going to see him before you were born; I used to see IOU in crappy London pubs before they were called IOU, so that should give you an idea of how familiar I am with Allan's playing. Of course,, I can hear Connors's debt to Holdsworth; he's used certain elements of Allan's sound and phrasing, and he's taken some of his approach to voicings; that's not the same as being a clone. Much of the solo on this track is based on a single motif. I don't think Allan has done that in his entire career. It's also thoroughly rooted in the groove, something that Holdsworth hasn't been since he played with Soft Machine. For what it's worth, I also think Connors is a better composer. He has a clearer sense of development and structure than Holdsworth, who I think basically strings his latest favourite chords and bits together and then gets really good players to make music out of them. There are high points, like White Line and Tokyo Dream, but mostly the music is made by the performances. Connors's first record in this style, Step It, contains several real gems, like Twinkle, A Pedal and Brody that are serious pieces of music, enhanced by a great rhythm section. In the words of Stravinsky; "Good composers borrow; great composers steal!" Like I say, I can hear the debt, but it's too simplistic to write Connors off as a Holdsworth clone. Most musicians are imitators. The ones like Allan who genuinely sound like nobody else are very few and far between, and for good reason. I don't know if you ever heard him talk about his system of deriving scales? It's completely insane but it's why he sounds the way he does. Very few people would even have the patience and tenacity to do what he did, never mind the brain to come up with it. On the other hand, it's also why he never played a solo anyone could sing. Even Coltrane has bits you can cop if you've got half an ear!

Scott you sure know your Music! '77 Had the distinct pleasure seeing & listening JL Ponty Enigmatic tour including Holdsworth, Stuermer, Steve Smith among others! Exhilarating not for casual ears! Check out AH on JLP Enigmatic 3

Allan was a phenomenon, no doubt. But in his own way, Bill is every bit as good, and in some ways, I think, arguably a better composer. It's difficult to assess differences with two musicians who are so skilled and so creative. Part of the comparison is engendered by the guitar sound, the voicings and the power trio format, but there are differences. Connors is more rooted in the groove than Holdsworth ever was, perhaps part of his American upbringing. I also think he relates to the other players more. Holdsworth was quite solipsistic, a common trait of individual genius. I suppose I would characterise it this way; Connors would have a better go at doing Holdsworth than the other way round, for what it's worth.

People don't like the truth. They prefer to delude themselves with whatever makes them feel good.

I prefer Bill over Holdsworth. By far

@@kevinkinnu341 This period in Connors career I find baffling. Back with Return to Forever, he had his own individual style. Then in the 80s he attempts to basically clone Holdsworth. Allan himself was on record as being rather mystified by Connors' abandoning his own distinctive playing style. Fortunately I think Connors realised the futility of copying Allan and eventually went in a different direction.

@@Fontsman Bill Connors is a genius songwriter. His progressions are unmatched in my book

@Kevin Kinnu If there was an alternative universe without Allan, then you might have a point. But ultimately, there was only one Holdsworth, which explains why Connors stopped the cloning attempt after a few albums.