Sure, why not.

Not sure what you're asking.......?

@@explorer1fred You're coming down did you go up that way? Is this the only road to the summit?

@@ExploringCabinsandMines There are two ways up, One coming from Cerro Gordo. This trail traverses across the mountain to the top tram station. The other would be coming up from Keeler. In the past we usually take the loop from the Owens Valley up to Cerro Gordo and then across. There is also a trail behind Cerro Gordo that come ups from behind. This trail starts on the road into Saline Valley before South Pass. Hope this helps, Fred

@@explorer1fred I'm hoping one of the ways a stock 4x4 suburban could make it which is the easiest? I'm coming from Washington state and I don't think my wife would like the route you're on in the video lol !

This trip, by the way which was years ago, we came up to Cerro Gordo, Traversed across to the Salt Tram and then proceeded down to Keeler. I've also done this is a Ford E-350 Sportsmobile. It can be a bit scary on the narrow shelf road from Cerro Gordo, there is no berm and your tire on a full size vehicle is right on the edge. As for time of year, it all depends on the snow fall in the Inyo mountains which are in the rain shadow of the Sierra Nevada's. There can be enough snow build up on top that travel in a wheeled vehicle is impossible.

Depends on the time of year and when the last thunderstorm was that washed out the canyon

The trails have change much over the years. Grand Gulch Mine trail traveling up the canyon has been "tamed" by some blade work I assume done by the Park Service or the BLM. Depending on your attitude this could be either good or bad news. The trail up past Savanic Mine has continued to erode and become increasingly challenging near the actual mine. To answer your question, much of the trail up the Savantic is a shelf road with little room for passing. The Grand Gulch Mine for the most part follows a "canyon" where one can pull aside if there is traffic coming the other way. I must say however, I've never met anyone on any of my trips on either of these trails so I don't know how much this should be an issue, it's pretty remote out there., Thanks Fred

@@explorer1fred Thanks for the information. This looks like you had a great trip, these are the kind of trails we do.

Not all that technically difficult, just very long and rocky. It's a good days drive out to the point. Thanks, Fred

Hey Mohave Red. I'm heading up and going through same route this week. Any more info on road conditions and sketchy snow reports? Any and all news is greatly appreciated. thx

@@davehorlacher3834 shouldn't be any snow. We went right after that big storm that dumped snow throughout the cajon pass and the high desert. Road was in pretty good condition. Mengel pass is the hardest part.

Was the Yukon 2WD? I'm always sketchy about going on Mengal pass without 4WD.

And no video? do you not have a phone ?

@@Nessal83 Yukon was 4WD

At the north end of the trail, not far from the Chicken Corners turn off

Leveling kit, Fox 2.0 on the front, Monroe Load adjusting shocks on rear, 35s, sliders, and a very experienced driver. It's an amazing and very reliable truck. No lockers, but still made it up the whole trail.

Thanks, isn't always easy to do with beginners.

The "guy" in the ZJ is actually one of the better drivers, he purposely chooses the hardest line for his open axle ZJ to take. He's taken some crazy lines on other trips and somehow managed to pull through. Thanks, Fred

Fred Taylor lol cool just seemed kinda funny how he drove his front diff right onto that rock 🤷🏽‍♂️

You can see and read the whole story on this trip at: fourwheelfriends.boards.net/thread/718/arizona-strip-2016

You can also read and see about a follow up trip that I took to make it all the way top the top at: fourwheelfriends.boards.net/thread/848/arizona-strip-2017 Thanks, Fred Explorer 1

haha awesome. Heading there in a few weeks in a 2nd gen Tundra.

That was Rudi, I give him some slack because English is his 4th language.

Hardly! It 4WD will a very capable driver

Hardly, not 2wd would be on this trail it 4wd open diffs.

Bloody nose, upper lip abrasion.....but he rode on the next day. Fred

Who's 1st??? The camera man of course. That's why you never see his vehicle. Thanks, Fred Explorer 1

Read the whole story at: fourwheelfriends.boards.net/thread/1033/koko-3-trip-report-pictures