it is a good lesson. every force is going in two opposite directions. if you want to emit power in one direction, you need the stability in the other direction. this is exactly the explanation here. you have to understand the symmetry of your body. if you punch with your arm/fist, you need to create the stability on the opposite end which is the leg/foot. the dantien is connecting this opposite parts of the body. it is the center. so where is the starting point of the movement? it is the center where a kind of pressure wave is emitted symetricly in opposite directions. on one side the pressure wave is going through the arm into the fist, hitting theopponent. on the other side the pressure wave is going through the leg to the foot. the foot can't move through the ground. the ground gives the rooting and does not move. so, at the end there is an expansion between the ground and the hand. so, the force is rooted into the ground with no give. that means the emmited force is only going out of the fist with the stable rooting of the back leg. it is not difficult to understand the theory. but after understandig it, it still needs time and practice to get the coordination right.
@GermanSausagesAreTheWurstАй бұрын
Going to see him next month.
@squidmuttlyАй бұрын
It took me so long to work this out. CXW explains very clearly.
@spacecowboybebop3853Ай бұрын
👊🏾😎👍🏽
@GermanSausagesAreTheWurstАй бұрын
Thanks for posting this. I just got back from a seminar with Chen Bing, and this will help me remember what he taught us.
@GermanSausagesAreTheWurstАй бұрын
Thanks for this. I just got back from a seminar with Chen Bing, and this will help me remember what we covered.
@gunh41292 ай бұрын
It is a pity that a lot of Chinese kungfu practitioners possess only the art, and not the martial part of the skill. They know the technique, they can execute the technique theoretically, but they never reach the practical level of the technique. Nor, they have enough physical condition and the experience to fight with the technique in a real combat. That's why there are so many Kungfu practitioners get humiliated by Xu Xiandong. In my eyes, those kungfu masters was beaten not because they have inferior kungfu technique. But because they don't have enough physical condition nor experience to stand against Xu. Basically they just a theorist, and amateur, whose body doesn't possess the endurance and strength to match a martial art athlete like Xu Xiandong. For an amateur like them, they shouldn't stand against Xu for their first fight. But amateur MMA students who don't possess the athlete physic like Xu.
@GermanSausagesAreTheWurst2 ай бұрын
I like the 38 more than the 56.
@GermanSausagesAreTheWurst3 ай бұрын
Thank you for posting
@ThierryRobert-hs4qo8 ай бұрын
Les différences de style sont très intéressantes et très parlantes. Le passage Erlu de Wang Zhanjun, ça ne rigole pas ! Sa puissance et sa vitesse (contrastant avec la Laojia lente et centrée sur le dantien) sont impressionnantes...
@TRUTHorSTFU9 ай бұрын
Excellent demonstration!
@mayoroma9 ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@quentinducos80529 ай бұрын
Master class!
@GermanSausagesAreTheWurst9 ай бұрын
I still have to get better at Jian and Dao, but I hope to learn this one before I die. I don't know if I have enough years left.
@TaijiTu9 ай бұрын
Same here! 🙂
@quantumo209910 ай бұрын
Nope there none! Chen Bing says so. GXX says so.
@carolinmelcher972110 ай бұрын
❤I made this Video in Louguan Tai China in 08.2014!! ❤
@TaijiTu10 ай бұрын
Much obliged!
@spiritualinsight1201 Жыл бұрын
Вот как тайцзи можно понимать все понятно )))
@ernestvandouest6037 Жыл бұрын
Are they conscious that all this is totally inefficient in real combat ?
@GermanSausagesAreTheWurstАй бұрын
I'm sure that every hobby that you have is completely practical. NO FUN ALLOWED IN THIS LIFE!
@jammygitt2 күн бұрын
It was created by a military general who saw a lot of real combat. The fact you don't understand what you are looking at does not make it inefficient.
@ambulocetusnatans2 күн бұрын
Just wondering, friend, since you know so much, why didn't you know that you wouldn't like this video? Personally, I never click on videos that I know I won't like unless I have another reason to do so. What is your other reason?
@user_4808 Жыл бұрын
looks like he is fake
@kwaishiu6460 Жыл бұрын
Wonder if his punch will work with that stance and posture in a real situation, static vs. fluid
@trym2121 Жыл бұрын
In this particular training context, no. Do that and that's a telegraphing punch. Pretty much asking for a beating already It's only usable in real life after tons of training. When the practitioner can do it without going low or wide. Just normal stance like standing, distance between two feet is around shoulder width or tiny bit wider. Using the video terminology, when the dang jin is stable in very high stance whilst being connected to your dantian jin and the upperbody jin perfectly
@VanishingNomad Жыл бұрын
I have done it. The thing is, you need to be on the flank. Think of it more of a liver punch in boxing. Has the same results, and you dont even feel that you put any power into it.
@RS-xx9ve Жыл бұрын
CXW's power is so high, he wouldn't even visibly move if he was acting in a real situation. The punch was to demonstrate the technique to people, esp very inexperienced students. 40 years ago he was training the Chinese army's elite troops in unarmed combat. CXW is very much an all round "real deal".
@Livingtree3210 ай бұрын
@@RS-xx9veHe’s ok, but that’s it. There are better ones in Chen Taijiquan.
@RS-xx9ve10 ай бұрын
@@Livingtree32 I have heard there are numerous ones better. But firstly I'm not sure how much at the elite level is actually discernible to the naked eye. His brother looks very good. Who do you think is better in Chen? Would be interested to here!
@mrr8702 Жыл бұрын
wow cool video, its neat to compare in this way I like it
@stonegrit Жыл бұрын
Mike Tyson does all the time & wins a real master.
@RS-xx9ve Жыл бұрын
Yeah Tyson's lower body power is v impressive, or was in the early days. But his punch is more momentum and compression. CXW has far less movement, due to the training and the reality of street defence. BTW Tyson and D'Amato were huge Chinese m art fans and studied it too.
@loredanamassini9484 Жыл бұрын
@@RS-xx9ve Hey leave your toungue from his ass
@kokovas Жыл бұрын
Dont know what was in XXD head wanted to humiliate him by asking for a real spar. Beside CXW is already old. Not fair by comparison. Could hv challenged CZQ instead.
@taoliu3949 Жыл бұрын
CZQ isn't young either. The guy is 45 years old.
@TaijiquanSG Жыл бұрын
Wow this is great. Wth all due respect I find Chen Qingzhou's weight odd when he starts to rotate both hands to the left he is releasing his weight on his right foot instead of sinking into it. And you can see he move his right foot a little and replace it which wouldn't be necessary if his weight was right in the first place. Also the hand movements are not so smooth flowing.
@TaijiTu Жыл бұрын
Thanks. And good eye! Chen Qingzhou is quite old in this video. While he may be a little unsteady, his stepping is intentional. Here he is a little younger (different form, same move): kzbin.info/www/bejne/i37RZqSrnrRrmbc And here is another teacher (Yan Li, I think) with that same move: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jX7bYqZ7btemirc
@Nikko1992 Жыл бұрын
Lol that's cool
@dickpun105 Жыл бұрын
除曉東可以幫你証明你的功夫真偽!😃😃
@veroniquepuvilland37672 жыл бұрын
Superbe !
@yuefangzhao51082 жыл бұрын
很喜欢陈式太极拳
@TaijiTu2 жыл бұрын
我也是
@quantumo20992 жыл бұрын
True Taijiquan.
@alekx582 жыл бұрын
Tai dhji Chuan Goa wo cu wu Shu Yuan dong Zhong de ih Ta Chuan shen cu ih shen Shi He cang cu keng qing de Yuan Mu tuo der dong zhi Yuan XING She wo Wei Wei tu
@alekx582 жыл бұрын
Gut so interessant wie die Briefe der Ming und der Ching
@joaoantoniopereira17632 жыл бұрын
San 38 form muv. Tenks maste.
@stevesmith94472 жыл бұрын
This is just a comment appreciating the name of this channel. I see what you did there. :)
@TaijiTu2 жыл бұрын
Good eye! You're the first to notice (or the first to have said so). Thanks! 😄
@stevesmith94472 жыл бұрын
@@TaijiTu I can NOT be the first to have noticed, not with all the Chen practitioners who must visit here. But I'm proud to be the first to have said it!
@ambulocetusnatans Жыл бұрын
@@stevesmith9447 I didn't notice till you said something, but I got it now.
@wiwidity2 жыл бұрын
great, so clear, thank you Sifu
@Colombia4642 жыл бұрын
Este Maestro hace la forma Lao Jia tradicional como la hacia el gran Maestro Chen Fake.la redondes de los círculos de las manos preciosos.hoy día ya no hay nadie que lo repita se necesitan talentos y Maestros serios y que no reduzcan y cambien la técnica.
@TaiChiGhost2 жыл бұрын
A nice collection of photos! Of course, my personal favorite, Wu Yu-Hsiang is missing, but his system was never very widespread. Sun Jian-Yun was very pretty in her early days.
@seungcho42902 жыл бұрын
Yeh yeh, lets put your mythical powers to the test. Go fight an MMA or Muay Thai fighter/
@ismith80532 жыл бұрын
And MMAer winds up in a wooden box... U really need to get out of that Mcdojo! 😂😂
@seungcho42902 жыл бұрын
The only thing dangerous about tai Chi is making people like you think that it’s worth a dime in a fight.
@ismith80532 жыл бұрын
@@seungcho4290 Well I've done 18 yrs external arts - boxing, full contact kickboxing, street incidents etc. Then overlapping I have done 15 yrs of internal ie real martial arts. Martial tai chi literally kicks the shxx out of your watered down MMA mcdojo nonsense.
@taoliu3949 Жыл бұрын
This isn't mythical at all...... He's teaching how to leverage your entire body and the ground to power your punches.
@taichipandabat6153 Жыл бұрын
smh, honestly and i speaking to you.....would you really challenge that grandmaster? and the thing is he wouldn't even lay his finger at you. He would more say you are stronger and you will win. The mind of a tai chi player different. I know....
@vivid5713 жыл бұрын
陈发科的英文名字太假了
@TaijiTu3 жыл бұрын
哈哈!你看应该是怎么写的?或者 Fa'ke 或者 Fa Ke 呢 ?
@vivid5713 жыл бұрын
@@TaijiTu 汗,水平有限啊
@alekx582 жыл бұрын
Chen huang do de jing die Leutnant ist wie ein blonder Held
@alekx582 жыл бұрын
Wen ya zu Tai jia le wen er sich richtig in Schale schmeißt
@bobochoipaul53733 жыл бұрын
東瓜躲懶
@istinadeanitside82573 жыл бұрын
the pelvis is not working properly
@istinadeanitside82573 жыл бұрын
I wonder besides himself, can anyone repeat this? The explanation is missing some elements.
@jingjing38772 жыл бұрын
There are many stages between the disciple and CXW.
@stefanweilhartner44153 ай бұрын
as i understand it he tries to explain that his force is coming only from his shoulders. the punch is then limited by the accelerated mass of his shoulder. it is not connected to the upper body and the upper body is not connected to the lower body. and that is not connected to the feet. he started the movement in the shoulder. but the correct way is to start the movement in the center of your body. it is a kind of pressure wave that starts in the center. it moves the hips and shoulders at the same time. and this is the problem here. he moves the shoulders but not the hips. they should be connected. and then of course it needs the right understanding of the connection down to the knee and to the feet. and here we have the typical problem that the hips are very tight because he is not used to this low stance. his muscles practically cramp everything together and he loses the flexibility and also the feeling in his legs and hips. this is why the grandmaster told him to go a bit higher because he cramps/locks up in that low position. the grandmaster then took his arms to pull on one arm and push the other arm to create the feeling of symmetry and for the student a feeling in the straight spine being the axis that rotates. of course the shoulders and hips should move the same to not get the spine twisted. this kind of understanding is very important. if you understand that the muscles around the hips are on the limit of their strength and endurance, you then unterstand that it is of highest priority to train them somehow. to get your legs super strong and flexible and your body feels light as a feather. then you get in control of your body. this is why in the training of GM CXW the key is standing pole training and chan si gong. the standing pole training lets your muscle strength and endurance grow. and this was the hardest training for me. two time in my life i made it up to almost one hour. one time when i trained with him at exactly the same spot like you see in the video and one time when i trained alone on a vacation in thailand. i got a certain degree of strength but not to a point where i should be. for that, 100 days of training is needed. but because of being over weight, i also had issues with the knees starting to hurt. then, chan si gong training is the training of the whole movement to get an understanding of the three connections and symmetry: * connection of shoulders and hips * connection of elbows and knees * connection of hand and feet. there is no way around training and more training and more training to get the strength, flexibility and coordination to master this.
@Szczecinski_Klub_Taijiquan3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@uniforce1013 жыл бұрын
Chen is shaolin quan.
@greg65092 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking the same thing. When I watch Yang style teachers who have real skill and describe and demonstrate the eight energies, at the higher levels its all internal they can throw you around like a rag doll and transmit various Jins to send you flying or into your organs, etc...as long as they touch hands with you. Even when their body is in a very awkward comprised position. This Chen style while clearly an excellent martial art and this a top excellent Chen style master, appears much more like Shaolin mastery combined with some more circular movements and relaxation to perfect body alignments for Li issuance. That's not a bad thing in any way. Shaolin is excellent and effective. My body is too old for that though haha. I'd rather learn Yang style from Sifu Liang Dehua or Sifu Adam Mizner online. The way I see them teach the various jins for combat seem more Tai Chi Chuan to me. Very interesting and grateful to see this video posted. Have 20 + DVDs of this great Chen Style master. It does feel Shaolin is the biggest influence here in this Chen Style. Very interesting.
@taoliu3949 Жыл бұрын
@@greg6509 I mean, Chenjiagou and Shaolin are like 30 miles from each other. It would not be unusual to say they didn't exchange knowledge. However saying Chen isn't Taiji goes into the question of what is Taiji, because Yang came from Chen. Not to mention, there are multiple versions of Yang, from what I understand older forms were much more similar to the Chen style, but the forms were gradually simplified over time.
@greg6509 Жыл бұрын
@@taoliu3949 All good points. From my historical research, the Chen boxing Yang Luchan learned was much different than what is taught now in Chen village. Check out the fast forms of the Gu Lüping (Lisheng), Tian Zhaolin, and Wu Tunan lineages of authentic Old Yang Style. This is about as close as what we can get today to what the original yang style looked like. All of these lineages have masters though that can express Jins the way I'm describing. Without the need for almost any physical force or li used. I've only seen a couple Chen Masters be able to do this. James McNeil's Chen Style Master, Master Pan Wing Chow who learned from Chen Fake the first road back in the early 1930s was one of these if you check out his videos. Master Wu Tunan, disciple of Yang Shaohou and before that the Wu founder, is one of the big ones who historically claims Chen Style was never called Taijiquan and is different than what was taught to Yang Luchan as the Chen master who taught it also learned from Jiang Fa. Jiang Fa brought some kind of Taoist martial art to the Chen Village. That art, combined with the Chen Family Pao Chui became what we commonly know today as Chen Style Taijiquan. Which has much Shaoilon influence. Some say Old Yang Style was taijiquan without the Pao Chui influence. Who knows, but check out those three lineages on youtube including Qi Qingsheng. Tian Zhaolin will take you to his grandson. This lineage looks the most like Chen Style from the outside. What I've research was it got name taijiquan or grand ultimate boxing from royalty seeing Yang Luchan perform it. Beforehand, it's ancestors were know by other names. Fascinating stuff and I do study and respect Chen Style as well. But Old Yang is my fav. Cheers!
@taoliu3949 Жыл бұрын
@@greg6509 Paochui has been around since the Ming Dynasty, long before Yang Luchan was born. Yes, it's true that historically "Taichi" did not apply to the Chen style and was applied retroactively. But then that begs the question "what is Taiji" because Yang Luchans style obviously came from the Chen Style.
@paotcpao92313 жыл бұрын
真正的勁是鬆到腳底湧泉的勁 像這種演示 已經偏向外家拳的方式了
@istinadeanitside82573 жыл бұрын
你需要知道很多视频中没有的细节。
@StewKelly3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing. Great explanation on integration of jin and power!
@TaijiTu3 жыл бұрын
My pleasure. I thought so, too.
@Colombia4643 жыл бұрын
La Forma no fue bien definida, y tuvo muchas fallas, lo unico fue su Fachin..
@sinabehbahani77463 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing sir.
@michalmilencki29273 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@TheStuderman3 жыл бұрын
Punches at anglea and elbows moving through the centre line.?