MH3 Timeless & Historic Set Review
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@neuroboi
@neuroboi 6 күн бұрын
the god of storm
@Tipz4Free
@Tipz4Free 6 күн бұрын
Love this channel! Thnx for the breach tips brooo
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 6 күн бұрын
❤️
@Dcxo.
@Dcxo. 8 күн бұрын
How the deck wins against high noon, deafening silence or damping sphere? I see some spell pierces, but is it enough? If some decks start using unmoored ego (lotus or wish) and lost legacy (wish) for lotus and other combos the deck will lose 10/10
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 7 күн бұрын
I talk about Damping Sphere in my article, it's rough for sure, that's what makes the Mono-Green matchup bad, but it can be countered with Consign. Deafening Silence/High Noon are more beatable with bounce spells because they don't shut off Lotus. If people start running Ego/Legacy boarding in Jace should do the trick, it'll be too slow to hit Lotus most of the time and that would make hitting Wish irrelevant, plus it's possible to win without Lotus. Certainly both of these kinds of effects are good against the deck, but neither is unbeatable by any stretch.
@camargolf54
@camargolf54 8 күн бұрын
did I hear a fart? :P
@ГеоргиГеоргиев-р7з
@ГеоргиГеоргиев-р7з 8 күн бұрын
When you put lotus on 3 and have vizier you sohuld always cycle it trying o hit consign to memory
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 8 күн бұрын
In some cases it's better to save the Vizier for a future turn if the mana would go to waste otherwise and/or if the mana would be more useful on a future turn. If the mana would go to waste otherwise you're effectively losing out on 1 mana during the combo turn in exchange for about a 10% chance that you save 2 lands and therefore gain 2 mana for it.
@lukeleicht1170
@lukeleicht1170 13 күн бұрын
Predicted one of the best decks in historic
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 13 күн бұрын
I’d been playing bombardment decks in historic for like 6 months at that point, so when mh3 came out and truly broke it I was pretty ahead of the curve (in modern too as bombardment hadn’t caught on there yet either even after boros/mardu became popular)
@Alex-ms8mb
@Alex-ms8mb 26 күн бұрын
Would you consider using balemurk overlord at all, or is mumble just straight better? If u ran reanimate, it could be good to have that as an option as well, just curious!
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 25 күн бұрын
Mumble finding Breach is very important (and the scion is nice). I don't think a single reanimate makes me want overlord still, it would definitely be interesting in a full-on reanimator build (which I have tried before), however I haven't loved them. The main issue with that kind of build is that you're adding more graveyard dependencies to a deck that is already very vulnerable to graveyard hate, so it's not really worth it in most metas.
@Alex-ms8mb
@Alex-ms8mb Ай бұрын
Another banger! Addicted to breach, tho I feel like timeless or bust 😂
@Alex-ms8mb
@Alex-ms8mb Ай бұрын
Ty for the deck tech man! Love to see breach!
@Alex-ms8mb
@Alex-ms8mb Ай бұрын
Timeless!! more breach soon?
@omrithopter
@omrithopter Ай бұрын
Not in timeless unless the deck gets something new, working on a historic list though
@hailstrum
@hailstrum Ай бұрын
Nice deck! (decklist link is to wrong deck btw)
@omrithopter
@omrithopter Ай бұрын
Oops, fixed now, thanks!
@hailstrum
@hailstrum Ай бұрын
Tried a very similar list (subbing in some alternatives since didn't want use my wildcards) it really is satisfying to play. Very powerful too 👍
@oscarwilson-brown6054
@oscarwilson-brown6054 Ай бұрын
really cool deck. one of the coolest lurrus decks.
@charhurhur
@charhurhur Ай бұрын
Personally, I don’t think you drafted enough fetch lands.
@massimilianocontessotto4397
@massimilianocontessotto4397 2 ай бұрын
Is this viable in historic too?
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 2 ай бұрын
Losing Bauble and only having 4 fetches is going to make delirium a lot trickier to turn on, but you could probably make it work.
@mtg1289
@mtg1289 2 ай бұрын
Nice👀✨
@davec8385
@davec8385 2 ай бұрын
Against the Mardu energy I don't think they could've had the phlage you were worried about because of the Lurrus companion. Even if they brought them in it would've been visible by the sudden lack of a companion. Seems like a fun deck thanks for sharing it! I might try to craft it if I have the wild cards 😅
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 2 ай бұрын
Yeah you're right, too used to energy always having phlage in modern I suppose
@blanchild
@blanchild 2 ай бұрын
How do you feel about Breach Storm in the meta right now, especially with S&T adopting Veil and Leyline maindeck? Have you made any changes to your latest list?
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 2 ай бұрын
I still think the deck is great, a consequence of that was me moving thoracle unearth to the main which helped a lot, though I haven't actually seen much s&t on ladder so I'm not sure it's even neccesary anymore. I haven't played the deck myself since the qualifier but the main changes I'd make are probably adding a noxious revival or 2 to the sb for Surgical and maybe a Molten Collapse if a lot of decks are switching from Hearse to Vacuum.
@flankstaek
@flankstaek 2 ай бұрын
When the client wasn't letting you sideboard trying to restart the client during the downtime might have made it work, I've had that happen before for whatever reason.
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 2 ай бұрын
That's what I did I cut it out, didn't work and hasn't in the past unfortunately. Appreciate the suggestion though
@flankstaek
@flankstaek 2 ай бұрын
@@omrithopter such a frustrating experience. Great video though!
@escapistsmusicstuff
@escapistsmusicstuff 3 ай бұрын
Do you think redundancy in Necrodominance could work well?
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 3 ай бұрын
Short version is no, bowmasters is rough, 5 is way less than 7 very difficult to combo from without a setup turn, and shuts off breach lines which is a huge cost as that comes up a lot
@FlackooPretty
@FlackooPretty 3 ай бұрын
Glad to have you back! Good stuff man! Did you try playing the Jet Storm deck as well? I wonder how these two compare to each other.
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, I think it’s a little worse right now it’s a little slow and pretty weak without necro while being less consistent at getting it into play. Very cool deck tho
@zhorebbagames2676
@zhorebbagames2676 3 ай бұрын
dude seriously need phonoaudiology sessions!
@RadicalSpikee
@RadicalSpikee 3 ай бұрын
How is match up against control on averange?
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 3 ай бұрын
Dimir is tough, other control decks are a lot easier
@Alex-vi6iz
@Alex-vi6iz 3 ай бұрын
What do you think about the new tutor card ? Seems pretty easy to get delirium
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 3 ай бұрын
Not super high on it, the deck already has enough tutors and it not helping fight through GY hate bc of delirium being shut off is a real issue
@davidcampbell6087
@davidcampbell6087 3 ай бұрын
Does sacrifice make the scam version better or do you think rumble/ woodlands is too important
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 3 ай бұрын
Rumble is busted, I don't think sacrifice is that good even in scam since it doesn't really open up new loops and there's nothing that good to ritual out early, especially without Lurrus.
@matthewp2209
@matthewp2209 3 ай бұрын
Can u build an artifact deck?
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 3 ай бұрын
Don’t think it’s that viable in timeless unfortunately, maybe if we get mox opal somehow
@WolfPage-f8w
@WolfPage-f8w 3 ай бұрын
How do you fight a surgical with this deck? Or will noxious revival help?
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 3 ай бұрын
Noxious will help a lot, currently just dodge it or win fairly if they hit a combo piece, I’ve mini tendrilsed a lot after getting breach/drit surgicaled. Also if you don’t mill pieces early you can go breach then always be able to cast drit from yard in response to surgical while comboing and hope you don’t mill tendrils.
@hristian
@hristian 3 ай бұрын
Even not mattering, in game 1 when u chump with the scion u should've sac it for denying their 4 lifegain.
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 3 ай бұрын
Good point!
@dwaynedibley1396
@dwaynedibley1396 3 ай бұрын
how to best cut in grim tutor?
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 3 ай бұрын
?
@XenoGuru
@XenoGuru 3 ай бұрын
I'm sorry to be "that guy," but I wonder how long it will take Wizards to start restricting more cards in this format. Unfortunately it has started to become quite stale. Edit: Also, they really need a "storm count" to be visual.
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 3 ай бұрын
Just restricting s&t would go suuuuch a long way, breach is honestly pretty ok when its got a target on its back, same goes for the other drit decks imo. Also, force of negation would help a lot, I just don't want to see drit restrictedm imo it's part of the flavor of the format in the same way that wasteland/brainstorm/fow will never get banned bc its just how legacy is.
@XenoGuru
@XenoGuru 3 ай бұрын
@@omrithopter SNT and Grief should both get a restriction. Those are the only ones, I feel. Grief in your opening hand, draw a land, two ephemerates, and any pitch card for Grief, that is literally more oppressive than mind twist back in the day
@unkokusaiwa
@unkokusaiwa 4 ай бұрын
your speech is all mumbling, whaTS THE MATTER?
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 4 ай бұрын
I don't call the deck mumble breach for nothing (working on better audio sry, my setup is very budget & scuffed atm)
@CardinalIam
@CardinalIam 4 ай бұрын
Got a 6-0 with your list after only a few practice matches. Breach is crazy! I think you took the right line by waiting here bc of the turn timer, but I thought it’d be fun to try and find a win at 8:21 . Sorry if my notes are illegible Sac channeler to tower, cast DT for breach - s1 Cast breach with spawn - s2, 14 in gy Cast ritual x3 - s5, 5 in gy, 7b floating Cast stitchers leaving dt - s6, 4 in gy, 6b (If tendrils or 3 remaining rituals are milled here I think it’s lost) Dt for di, s7, 1 in gy, 4b Di for ritual sac stitchers, s8, 6 in gy, 2b (If tendrils is milled here just cast ritual -> tendrils) Ritual, s9, 7 in gy, 4b Escape ritual, s10, 4 in gy, 6b Dt for tendrils, s12 It’s exactzies on mana and cards in GY so any mistake in my math makes the line not work. Someone else audit me please!
@CardinalIam
@CardinalIam 4 ай бұрын
Actually if we attack them to 16 it’s easier! Just DT for tendrils after casting stitchers. Still loses to milling tendies on stitcher etb I think.
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 4 ай бұрын
Nice! Yeah I did the math as well, it's exactsies, not something achievable to come up with in that time frame I think, especially because if you mess it up you lose and I was fairly confident I would live another turn.
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 4 ай бұрын
Oh btw you can sac scion then channeler to surveil a card
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 4 ай бұрын
Actually now that I'm thinking of it there's a slightly more effecient way that doesn't include the risk of milling tendrils, you sac scion cast dt sac drc cast breach 15 cards in yard cast 3 rituals 7 mana 6 cards in yard demonic tutor for a ritual and cast it and then demonic tutor for a tendrils opponent on 16 tendrils for 18
@CardinalIam
@CardinalIam 4 ай бұрын
@@omrithopterthere’s the optimal line! But just like you said, finding these things in the time given by arena is very difficult and extremely punishing to mess up. I feel like I’ve lost to the rope more than any particular archetype while trying to learn the deck. Nothing to do but keep practicing I guess.
@Gurglesburg
@Gurglesburg 4 ай бұрын
I matched you against this deck a couple weeks back and thought it was really cool, glad to see there’s still room for innovation and not just the same show and tell / mardu energy paint dry matchups.
@Cuteheals
@Cuteheals 4 ай бұрын
Been playing a similar list but kept running into issues with opponent running veil of summer / leyline, any thoughts on running amulets or a boseiju main to answer SNT / belcher in BO1? I feel like if they start with leyline i just instant lose in bo1
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 4 ай бұрын
I might just run unearth thoracle in bo1 cuz of veil, you could swap the woodland for boseiju but it’s one or the other
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 4 ай бұрын
Amulet isn’t fast enough to race S&T usually
@AscendFromDarkness97
@AscendFromDarkness97 4 ай бұрын
This deck makes my head hurt lol
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 4 ай бұрын
Mine too and I’ve been playing breach decks for years. It’s definitely the hardest deck to play in timeless, by a lot.
@iznal
@iznal 4 ай бұрын
Is the best breach deck in your opinion?
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 4 ай бұрын
Yeah
@iznal
@iznal 4 ай бұрын
⁠@@omrithopterthx. Been rotating all three of your lists trying to decide. Super fun deck.
@MagicChristian-hl9kx
@MagicChristian-hl9kx 4 ай бұрын
Are mardu and boros energy decks really that bad, or are they only unplayable in bo1
@Alex-vi6iz
@Alex-vi6iz 4 ай бұрын
Pretty unplayable in bo1, but great in bo3 imo especially boros with blood moon. Blood moon off of amped raptor on turn 2 is often gg
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 4 ай бұрын
I’n not a fan in bo3 either but I know other people are, it’s a fine choice.
@kitchenfinksop8573
@kitchenfinksop8573 4 ай бұрын
im playing this version to, i really love it, energy decks cry so much when i face them 🤣🤣🤣
@WolfPage-f8w
@WolfPage-f8w 4 ай бұрын
Congrats on the dub! Played this in the qualifier play in and went 5-2, so close to getting to the qualifier weekend. Both my losses were to show and tell as I find it a very hard match up
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 4 ай бұрын
Unlucky, yeah it’s definitely the deck’s worst matchup, gets better post-board.
@omegainvestments
@omegainvestments 4 ай бұрын
Insane run! You have a real knack for talking through every play, really helped as a viewer to learn the deck and the lines!
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 4 ай бұрын
Appreciate the kind words, I just like the sound of my own voice :)
@zhorebbagames2676
@zhorebbagames2676 4 ай бұрын
how is 3 matches steam rolling?
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 4 ай бұрын
I'm a content creator, clickbaiting is in the job description
@XenoGuru
@XenoGuru 3 ай бұрын
​@@omrithopterI saw no click bait here. Anytime I see a channel that's running a janky-looking brew, I watch. I find it more entertaining than watching someone "steamrolling" with a deck that everyone and their mom knows is a good deck
@davidcampbell6087
@davidcampbell6087 4 ай бұрын
Congrats
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 4 ай бұрын
thanks!
@wenbincui
@wenbincui 4 ай бұрын
Which version is better against SNT?
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 4 ай бұрын
Against sultai its probably jund because the goldfish is faster, game one energy can win through veil though amulet is often not fast enough anyways, and post-board jund has unearth (and at this point its probabably worth running it in rb to be able to race). Plus, bauble is better in jund bc its awkward with raptor and can be found with rumble.
@WolfPage-f8w
@WolfPage-f8w 4 ай бұрын
Which deck would you say is better between this and the energy package version?
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 4 ай бұрын
mumble edges out energy a little at the moment I think, it's better at racing s&t though having an out to veil in g1 in amulet is nice out of energy.
@WolfPage-f8w
@WolfPage-f8w 4 ай бұрын
@@omrithopter Makes sense. Btw really enjoying your content as it is well made and is what got me into timeless breach and I have fell in love with the deck, excited to try this new version
@tcwaterboy3306
@tcwaterboy3306 4 ай бұрын
Definitely gonna try it been loving the energy version
@wenhancao5367
@wenhancao5367 4 ай бұрын
Nice video! have you tried coco and other combos with soultrader? I’m playing this deck by focusing on the combo plan, wanna know your idea about this more unfair strategy, happy to discuss! 3 Academy Manufactor 1 Agatha's Soul Cauldron 4 Birthing Ritual 3 Blooming Marsh 1 Boseiju, Who Endures 3 Cauldron Familiar 3 Chatterfang, Squirrel General 4 Collected Company 4 Delighted Halfling 1 Dryad Arbor 2 Forest 4 Gilded Goose 3 Gravecrawler 1 Haywire Mite 4 Marionette Apprentice 2 Marsh Flats 2 Orcish Bowmasters 3 Overgrown Tomb 1 Swamp 1 Underground Mortuary 4 Verdant Catacombs 4 Warren Soultrader 2 Windswept Heath 2 Break the Ice 2 Endurance 2 Force of Vigor 4 Grist, the Hunger Tide 2 Orcish Bowmasters 2 Soulless Jailer 1 Thoughtseize
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 4 ай бұрын
Thanks! No I haven't, though the dice factory aspect of your list seems very cool, not playing much modern atm but CoCo definitely seems like it has potential. I will say, 3 gravecrawler strikes me as a little odd given how easy it makes comboing, but it is pretty mediocre with coco/in multiples for sure.
@wenhancao5367
@wenhancao5367 4 ай бұрын
@@omrithopter thanks!I use only 3 gravecrawlers as chatterfang has similar function. It costs two more mana but can activate at instant time and will not be affected by graveyard hate. It can also go infinite with soultrader+manufactor.
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 4 ай бұрын
@@wenhancao5367 Yeah I considered chatterfang for the instant speed because it's nice with ritual.
@samuelkhananashvili3640
@samuelkhananashvili3640 4 ай бұрын
this deck rules!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ty!
@belhaddim5116
@belhaddim5116 4 ай бұрын
That bolt on m1g2 lol. Glad to see new timeless content :)
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 4 ай бұрын
It rattled me pretty hard I'm not gonna lie
@nicholasmoreno7904
@nicholasmoreno7904 4 ай бұрын
Looks fun, have you tried the one ring in this deck?
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 4 ай бұрын
Have not, it was decent in the jet storm version but Birthing Ritual fills a similar role and there's less room for non-creatures
@takistsibris4325
@takistsibris4325 4 ай бұрын
Very clean deck omri.. marionette is superb card and so is ritual!gj 😊
@diogovieiradasilva
@diogovieiradasilva 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for the content, Im back in modern and will play this deck in a budget version, any tips? I will cut grief and bowmasters, I know this cards is really good, but Im playing only in my LGS, I have no reasons to buy this cards.
@omrithopter
@omrithopter 4 ай бұрын
I would model the list after the non-scam version and lean more into the chthonian nightmare aspect of the deck with more shambling ghasts since it fills a similar function as bowmasters when comboing. I would also probably main deck a little more interaction like thoughtseize