I don't think she summons bats, I think she might have woke them up. I thought the scene was hilarious.😂

I think this is such a niche thing it's not exactly a surprise that the writers missed it when they missed/ignored much bigger things already.

I'm not the biggest Tolkien lore nerd, but from what I understood from the show, she didn't "summon bats to do her bidding". She can hear everything inside the mountain, so she knew the bats were there, all she did was scream to wake them up and they flew out of the cave, scaring the dwarves. I dont think she was controlling them in any way more than that.

this show fucking sucks!

They’re just bats my dude.

She summoned the balrog too. 😂

Excellent video ❤

I think she was just scaring the bats into a flock no?

Exactly same thoughts.

Yes.

Nice. I was horrified by her summoning of bats, as well.

Not sure if she is an Evil character but it's Evil for the show for sure. Second most irritating character after Galadriel.

There is also something about her that looks evil.

every big Tolkien fan reacted the same way i think. just strange using her magical singing to summon bats of all things.

That's interesting, I wasn't aware of the symbolism of bats in Tolkien's lore. From what I've heard, this show actually gets more things wrong than right...

Great Video!

umm “some contracts are written in blood, i say no more” -illyrio ADWD

Personal i think it ends with 3 targaryens fighting for the throne, as a new start of the game of thrones. On n thrown, on with a army on the way and one gathering forces

Interesting and enlightening to hear LOTR discussed as fiction, rather than as Holy Scripture. Thank you.

GRRM has taken so long that this man was 17 years old when he started reading ASOIAF.

I thank ur service u just helped me with my English honors homework

I think he isn't Aegon.. It’s just too easy,its Song of Ice and Fire

Thank you, I've just listened to Dylans lecture, as you said, it's wonderful

I know I'm really late but I've gone down the rabbit hole of your rings of power videos cause there's a new season in progress, and it's all been on my mind. Personally, I don't think the show is the greatest thing ever, but I"ve enjoyed it more than not. It's been cool to hear you give the opposite perspective because I've found that you can be critical without being negative (if that distinction makes sense) it's too rare to find someone like you who can talk about why something like this isn't working for you, without devolving into recreational outrage. You seem to have been less active with your KZbin channel of late, but on the off chance you see this, here's one guy letting you know that I wouldn't mind seeing more.

I think the association with the Golden Company really is the giveaway. If they abandon their commission for the first time ever, it's not going to be for one of their enemies. And the baby-swapping could just as easily serve as foreshadowing for Aegon being passed off as a Targaryen.

I think Aegon is the real deal. Jon Con knew Rhaegar well and says he looks and act like his father. Tyrion met Rhaegar before and he sees the likeness in Aegons features and mannerisms. There are several allusions to baby switching and the possibility of baby switching. Verys would do anything to save the child if he thought it was the best hope to save the kingdom. Also, if Elia thought they were going to kill her and her children but knew she could save one she most definitely would and she would clutch that baby to her chest tightly to hide their face so no one would notice that it wasn’t actually hers. Why just the baby? A baby could have been close at hand belonging to a servant or visitor. Meanwhile, Verys used the secret tunnels to take Aegon away with no one the wiser.

Honestly, Martin has laid out his story in a way where both explanations are perfectly plausible. There is enough set-up for both things to be true, but only one can. Both scenarios are complicating the story and I very much love the Blackfyre Rebellion backstories and for them to become that much more integral to the happenings in the main story is very intriguing, so I hope for that one to be true

My big thing is Young Griff has to be a dragon. Wether it’s Black or red matters not, but if he actually were just some peasant boy Varys raised to think was a prince I would be disappointed

This is a series that should be recommended to every young man and woman. Great example of a strong, intelligent, capable beautiful female hero. We dont have enough examples of these. Love this series and you describe it well!

I think he is the real Aegon simply because that is more interesting

The theory that Young Griff and Sansa are the same person is speculative, but possible. One reason is Sansa's experience with identity manipulation, as seen in her "Alayne Stone" persona. Another reason is the narrative timing, with Sansa's storyline having a gap when Young Griff is introduced. Additionally, there is a possible Targaryen connection through her Stark lineage.

She goes from an ugly duckling to a superhero. No hate. I love the books but Weber made her into something phenomenal. She's rich, has political status, an Admiral in the two navies. Everyone loves her and she has this cat thats like a maine coon but it can kill everyone in the room and it had 6 legs.

I hope you are healthy this day

Also Tywin probably never saw aegon he resigned as hand a year or so before the rebellion he wasn’t at court to see aegon. The mountain doing that was probably happenstance.

Let’s not forget that’s exactly what Ned did with John…it’s the oldest trick in Westeros

I've been a fan of Weber since I read Mutineer's Moon. I kept going with his Honor Harrington series which is fantastic. Great, reliable, fun writer. I met Weber at a convention in the late 90s. Really cool guy, very funny.

Eventhough id love him to be aegon... i believe its faegon. The books inherently imo are about the question does blood matter?

to your point, looking again at the “Mummer’s Dragon”-maybe the “cloth dragon” doesn’t signify he’s not of true blood, but that his ‘house banner’ alone will be enough to win over the people (as opposed to Dany who conquers with real Targaryen dragons)

My second favorite sci-fi series!

Love the series! I hope it gets adapted well at some point.

Loved this series till the battle of manticore and tell out with it now I read stories with a smaller cast

I also believe Griff is Aegon. I just think its good for the story.

I think young griff is the son of Illyrio and his second wife that died of greyscale. Who was actually a Blackfyre because only the female line survived after Maelys. And thats why Danny was warned of him being the mummers dragon.

This is a fabulous series, and I cannot recommend it highly enough. Space opera, great characterization, plot and world building at a high level. I personally would skip "Falling Free" and perhaps come back to it later, and start directly with "Shards of Honour", but then again, I'm not Lois. Her later books in the World of the Five Gods are wonderful fantasy. The Penric and Desdemona books are amazingly good, very different, full of imagination and droll wit.

It’s a great series, and finally seems to be getting some KZbin attention. I wouldn’t read Falling Free first. I would wait until any time after quaddies are first introduced in the Miles books.

I think there was a baby swap, I like your take on it. I suspect the details of the baby swap may be more complicated however. My theory is that brandon stark + ashara dayne = jon and lynanna + rhegar = griff. Ned could pass jon for his own but needed to find care for his sister’s blonde haired heir child safety from robert’s wroth. So ashara takes griff and gives her child to ned to raise in his fathers home. Means jon could still be reunited with his mother in the end… then again there’s the nissa nissa prophesy and dawn is sword of the morning, the breaking of the long night. Also parallels how now jon is doing a baby swap with another royal baby only he himself parallels the non-royal baby who’s kinda getting screwed out of his life.

The reason i think hes really Aegon is that GRRM doesnt try to make him too good, so that we underestimate him and think him a brat just cause he got angry at Tyrion, who nearly everyone gets angry at btw, even his whole family... 😅