Amazing games, keep up the content ❤

Hellbornes need to do something lol

These long games were super good, enjoyed them a fair bit

Your an exlent comintator really enjoy the content

The Shroud spreading from the Infernal player was on point here. Celestials might have to start paying as much attention to their cascade fields and stay in green power and near power banks to keep the energy levels up on their units - and instead of fighting to the death with their whole army I suspect they should be retreating out-of-energy units to fight another day, maybe through Aeon Gates? I feel like we should be seeing more Arcships in general, too. Are we going to get to see all the mirror matches on the new patch next?

I enjoyed all three show matches though I will say that in terms of outcome you couldn't have staged something better suited to prove the devs comments on the current balance triangle. I find myself hoping that aspect of it ends up being an early-in-patch thing or a players in question thing.

Awesome series here man. Ana (nina) is very good without a doubt, so I was cheering for the infernals and he played very great to win.

lmao.. how dumb are the devs to allow such horrible balance? literally u should see 1 game and fix it within 24 hours. cel stupidly broken.

Honestly. It’s just off brand StarCraft. And that is really unfortunate.

Why are they called the Vanguard when they don't have any vans?

Is graphic good now?

Idk why people even play the other races. Cel requires the lowest apm and has all the best abilities

Props to infernal players for playing for the love of the game.

Hell yeah

Cool to see the ebb and flow in the third game. Teching up should be that powerful.

Nether had a sliver of lag with the game even with Warz on last patch and him being able to reach over 300 hundred pop

The spriggan sound is so disgusting :D

And than have a closer look at 31:54 ... sorry what the hell is wrong with this repair turret!? 6 Spriggans cannot manage to get this one Hornet down. That should not work like that, thats disgusting imbalance. Sorry for my rant but this kinda situations are pumping my pulse.

Beautiful cast. Thanks a lot Beomulf! I'm a lower ranked Infernal Player but look at the engagement at around 22:20 - there is no chance for the infernal, i think that msrm did a good job, but with all the kiting and the ultimative survivability of the vanguards lancer you cant do anything in this kinda midgame situations. And then this bad Map design: you can not take any good second therium bace (the natural is a joke cause the therium distance is to high so you can not get a good gathering done here) without fighting exposed what you can not manage to win. Sad matchup at the moment.

My opinion is that Infernal don't have anything that attack in range with enough impact like the Vanguard since the update. The EXO still way to strong in the game and since the infest is gone on the Gunts, I believe the Infernal are underpower. Vanguard are the most balance in every situation.

These are the first games I've seen on the new patch, and I was shocked by how pretty it looks! Great job to the frost giant team :D

Man the spriggans are soooo loud xD cool games, thanks for the casting !

1:42:46 if it's a fuse/house power issue strongly recommend getting yourself a UPS, i have a 1500VA CyberPower that has been enough for 750W, a PS4 pro, 2x monitors, desk lamps, standing desk, and a laptop. Saved my ass many times, it lasts for 30-60 minutes during a power outage - more than enough time to finish the game

Great stuff. More please!

Ever since they removed the Magmadon dash, the unit has felt so inconsistent, even in situations where it's very good. Infernal armies have some very glaring blind spots that they seem to be designing around. That being said, the slow from Infestation and Spriggans having a strong niche is a great move in the right direction, despite the unfortunate matchup against Hornet. We're finally at the point where nearly all units have a place.

Magmadons are just a waste of resources against the Vanguard bio ball, they can't catch them, they just get kited. I feel like Spriggans are better at countering higher tier units since they're single target debuffers, there are too many individual units in the Vanguard bio ball for them to actually debuff. Maybe Harbingers & Seismic Slam could be helpful, but they're also slow and not tough enough to get on top of the Exos. I think what Infernals need here is movement control and AoE damage, and they need to make the Vanguard come to them instead of chasing them off the Shroud. I'm thinking rather than Magmadons you need to be adding Hellbornes to your Brute/Gaunt composition, their range prevents Exo kiting, Hexens should be mainly using their energy on Venom Traps and saving Miasma for when you get a Fiend surround, and you should also invest heavily into Wraithstones and really cover the map in Shroud (I think that's where a lot of that extra Luminite is supposed to be going).

Snoxtar being a gentleman and not massing weavers vs nina animancers cause he saw how much that autocast annoyed her on stream :3

To think hornets got giga nerfed with bonus to light reduced 50% and still feel too strong. They need lower hp for the amount of dmg they do.

Scythes are such unfun unit design to me. The devs initially said they wanted to stray away from air dominant units. But they then implemented an air unit that gets an armour buff on-hit, which makes people mass it. Kind of wish it was removed from their kit and cel gets another ground unit instead. Or at least scythes only being able to target air, perhaps, because a flying immortal type unit is not fun game design IMO.

Exos getting bonus damage against heavy and shroudstones not having a special building type armor is kinda nonsense. Exos just counter everything on Infernal and combined with the new lancers and their speed upgrades, Vanguard gets to choose when and where to engage and Infernal can't retreat because what's the point? only the fiends can escape. The balance this update is in shambles. But the game is still awesome. They just need to look at Warcraft 3 and take lessons from how it does armor and damage types rather than trying to do the SC2 thing of every unit having a weird specific "3+3vs.light" or "5+16vs.heavy" kinda nonsense. Sometimes it's not about "finding answers as the patch goes on." Sometimes the numbers are just all wrong. And right now the numbers are all wrong. Infernal is supposed to have worse units because they can overwhelm with more units but that's not how it works right now. You're lucky if you keep up with vanguard in supply especially as you are having to constantly rebuild imps because Infernal needs WAY more infrastructure than Night Elves or Zerg ever did. So you have worse units but you certainly don't have more. And even if you have slightly more they just kite your slow ass trash anyway. It's just not good balance. I have tried all 3 factions this patch a bit and I am not the best player, but Vanguard definitely feels the easiest to win with because you don't have to think. Bio ball is unbeatable in a straight fight so all you need to do is scout against harassment.

Lancers need at least a movespeed nerf

Spriggens are awesome, but vanguard is so fast

... have they ever talked about why flying units make a noise every time they are issued an order?

Definitely gonna try the spriggan build in my games

Will you be uploading your stream from earlier to KZbin Harstem style? Unfortunately I was only able to catch some of it.

I still want to rebind all hotkeys for different units, I played SC2, LOL and AOE2 and don't want to relearn hotkeys like A move on T that I do in all other games.

1st of all Thanks for the vid and what you do for the game!! PLs never stop. regarding the patch, it is still early days, but I feel that saber and dark prophecy are still overturned. the changes for Vanguard feel great but I am afraid that the bonus vs light damage of the lancer might be too strong vs Infernals

My boy looks like he's wearing a Moondrop... blessing... 2? Or 3.

"The game is a little slow from 4 to 6 minutes" You have some great insights for competitive play and it's good to watch, but that statement is terrifying. The reason it's scary is because Stormgate is (so far) failing to achieve mass-market appeal and capture the more casual players who don't enjoy such a fast pace, and it's concerning that voices of influence don't really advocate for those kinds of players. Maybe the co-op modes are meant for that purpose instead. I don't want to force you out of your wheelhouse because I love this kind of KZbin content; I just want to point out that I heard "a little slow from 4 to 6 minutes" and immediately responded "Ah, so I'll watch games on KZbin and never play this game multiplayer."

I'm looking forward to the new builds with more tech rushes and early expansions. Hopefully the benefits of creeping are still comparable for the sake of variety as well.

Great stuff, thanks for the content Beo! ❤

Firstly hotkey fix is the biggest improvement by faaaar. The game has gone from nearly unplayable. As in barely enough to play test. To very much playable to enjoy. I can now properly set control groups to actual keys needed with no conflicts. The bottom letters ZXCVBNM. And F for my hatcheries. And camera controls on the actual number keys 1-6. Rather than unreachable Fkeys. The only limitation is that everything still corresponds to the grid. Rather than individual binds But the hotkeys for the grid can all be set. Which I think can even be perfectly fine. This is such a monumental change that makes this game actually playable. Next is Lancer has gotten too OP. And dogs too nerffedd. This is not how to balance. I think dog needed nerf and Lancer buff. But this is too far for both. Especially since Plague Axe got erased. I will say the exact same thing. Plague Axe should work if Ganut is on creep. Not needed for enemy. That would be the perfect compromise. IDK what David Kim is thinking with exaggerated changes like this. Vanguard infantry was already a problem. But everything here makes matters much worse. I am happy about Magmadon nerf. Despite being Infernal. I hate other Infernal who over produce them and can be abused. Especially how Spriggan has been. I'm also glad Spriggan might now be more viable. Slow and range has never been the issue with Dark Prophecy. It is simply waay too much dps for a spell like that. Which can target multiple units aoe along with its conditioner. It is a Ghost using Fungal Growth to Nuke Of you're going to have a conditioner spell, it should not be doing damage like that. It's absurd and a huge problem. Nerfing casting is not enough. Especially when Miasma was also nerffedd. Dark Prophecy is one of the biggest issues David Kim needed to fix here. If Fungal did that much damage, nobody will play SC2. At least Dark Prophecy can't hit air. Oh wait there isn't any in this game. Kiri needed a damage nerf. While I like the change better. Making them more tanky just didn't seem necessary. But we shall see how this plays out. I am happy I'm able to play the game. Due to keybinds. I just don't know if I will actually continue. Mainly because of Vanguard. Broken Lancer when Gnuats gets broke. I have already had a terrible experience with a crappy Vanguard killing me early game with exo/lancer playing without a care as if he knows he's OP..

I like you, Beomulf

Massive improves they constantly apply lead only to success! Love it!

Good coverage! Excited to see more casts in the future!

Something something dark side

is this after or before patch?

you can say gaunt infest change doesn't make sense but i think it's a clear step in right direction to make its use interesting. if the change is simply to make gaunts have to be on shroud to make it better, or make it an innate ability or cheaper research, or to buff effigy health, then it's a huge step. and yeah they def have to improve hellborne microability and potentially at same time change how charging attacks works for atlas. these are prob the biggest charge attack culprits? infernal late game will come in when they add new units. they could use several. and right now it's just the unfinished way it is. *shrug* i agree about removing slow on dark prophecy as a good idea. i agree new debilitate still sounds weirdly tuned so far, but haven't seen it

im glad to hear that , i was not able to bind shift + F* to camera locations