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@marktaylor2135
@marktaylor2135 9 ай бұрын
Is there any hope that additional conversions be done or are Rocket Engineering and JetProp defunct?
@donizetesilva1088
@donizetesilva1088 Жыл бұрын
Donizete Braganca pt SP Brasil ✈✈✈✈✈✈✈✈
@thatguythatdoesstuff7448
@thatguythatdoesstuff7448 2 жыл бұрын
150-200lb ft only equates to 4lbs an hour? I find that surprising to be honest. I would think it would be more significant than that. 4lbs an hour from what baseline? Edit: Whoops, I misheard. 4 gallons an hour. Nevermind.
@kathleenlinnell4494
@kathleenlinnell4494 2 жыл бұрын
Happy Safe🛫
@kathleenlinnell4494
@kathleenlinnell4494 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing Videos❣️ Thanks For Sharing 💞
@davidbeattie1366
@davidbeattie1366 2 жыл бұрын
One of the most important things when comparing a JetProp to a Meridian is the lower cost of maintenance. Since the airframe was not initially certified as a turboprop, the inspection requirements are the same as the Malibu. I own a TBM 700 and could afford the airplane but what makes it such a luxury is the high cost of maintenance. A JetProp would be about half the cost. I’m thinking about it just for that reason. The TBM is a solid 35-40kts faster but uses ten gph more so the range is about the same. It also maxes out at FL310 which can be a real asset for getting over more weather. These features cost about another $30K a year in maintenance and fuel over the JetProp.
@thepilotconnor
@thepilotconnor 3 жыл бұрын
Got my first couple hours in a JetPROP recently and these videos really helped me get familiar beforehand. Appreciate it!
@BonanzaPilot
@BonanzaPilot 3 жыл бұрын
Wish I could find a Jetprop with 1400 pound useful load
@xgtiguy
@xgtiguy 3 жыл бұрын
Which button did you hit to deploy that co pilot at 7:45 😆 thank you for the introduction. Love the sound of that start up
@scottp6539
@scottp6539 3 жыл бұрын
Watch your speed. The airframe isn't designed for the extra speed and torque..
@OctasLP
@OctasLP 3 жыл бұрын
This plane looks like a Socata TBM 700
@DM-hd4xm
@DM-hd4xm 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t like that VMO speed of 170 it’s, although other aspects of the aircraft sound good.
@mason9483
@mason9483 3 жыл бұрын
Right, if you have the money and like the look of the plane, get the M600, VMO of 250 is very nice.
@schillaci5590
@schillaci5590 3 жыл бұрын
Aviation has been kind to the top of your head. Thanks for a great intro to the differences :)
@2wheelsandatent
@2wheelsandatent 3 жыл бұрын
Came by to sub to your channel and let you know I found the part he was missing it was the very ends of the side supports shaped basically like a “P” and 3 bolts secured them to the “arms” of that makes sense.
@mseifried5
@mseifried5 4 жыл бұрын
So your landing roll was 1200 feet?
@PatrickJWenzel
@PatrickJWenzel 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review
@paulomesquita7735
@paulomesquita7735 4 жыл бұрын
Show.
@-commandz-1467
@-commandz-1467 4 жыл бұрын
8:10 your radio voice is amazing... :)
@naturezaevida913
@naturezaevida913 4 жыл бұрын
Muito bacana este vide-o uma bela aeronave show !
@fuzzyjax
@fuzzyjax 4 жыл бұрын
Is it so much less expensive then a comparable TBM that would make it worth it?
@MrCannonls
@MrCannonls 4 жыл бұрын
fuzzyjax just depends on how much money you have:). Outside of the outright purchase price the JetProp is far cheaper to operate.
@jws2
@jws2 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the easy to understand video. What would keep me from this is the useful load with topped off fuel tanks.
@MrCannonls
@MrCannonls 4 жыл бұрын
JW you bet! And for many that makes the JetProp a no-go. Others are willing to give up gross for efficiency.
@kameronkayson7120
@kameronkayson7120 3 жыл бұрын
I realize it is pretty off topic but do anybody know a good site to stream new tv shows online?
@karsontristian6872
@karsontristian6872 3 жыл бұрын
@Kameron Kayson try Flixportal. You can find it on google :)
@jamesskinner7744
@jamesskinner7744 4 жыл бұрын
What month was this ride? If you plan to do this trip again next year, would love to tag along. How to contact?
@beruang.kitchen3135
@beruang.kitchen3135 5 жыл бұрын
Nice vid! Subbed! help me too? #172
@aaronr9023
@aaronr9023 5 жыл бұрын
TYVM. Best turboprop start video I've seen. Right on par with the TBM start video. Kudos.
@kylegoodman5196
@kylegoodman5196 5 жыл бұрын
So what's the point of a large single engine turboprop if you cant' carry anyone or anything?
@MrCannonls
@MrCannonls 5 жыл бұрын
Kyle, being able to climb out of the weather and cruise at 27,000 feet at 260+ kts burning 30 GPH of jetfuel is pretty amazing. Also, compare the reliability of a turboprop vs a piston. It’s in a new league altogether.
@kylegoodman5196
@kylegoodman5196 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrCannonls Yeah but by that point why do it a Malibu and just get a Turboprop conversion of a Bonanza? What I question is why would you bother with this when you can't carry anyone or anything with full fuel.
@MrCannonls
@MrCannonls 5 жыл бұрын
Kyle Goodman. If your mission is to carry a few people over long distances, the JetProp would be a poor choice. But to move pilot and 1 passenger quickly, safely, out of the weather, over long distances, and with low hourly costs, the jetprop is top of its class. If you need to carry more weight and are ok with higher operational costs, just get a Meridian. As for the bonanza conversions, I don’t know their stats so I can’t comment. Just that I’ve seen conversions without pressurized cabins, and that doesn’t make sense to me as the turboprops find their efficiencies up high.
@paulbickley658
@paulbickley658 5 жыл бұрын
Good video
@georgebanker2669
@georgebanker2669 5 жыл бұрын
Cannon, when watching the actual start it seemed that the ITT needle was climbing quit rapidly. So rapidly in fact that there did not seem to be time to catch a hot start before an exceedance occurred unless the pilot had razor sharp reflexes. Is that the case or does it just appear that my due to the camera angle? Thanks for posting.
@georgebanker2669
@georgebanker2669 5 жыл бұрын
Don't you have to control the prop on the Jetprop? It so that would be another item to add to the workload.
@MrCannonls
@MrCannonls 5 жыл бұрын
You can control it if you want, but in normal operation you simply feather before shutdown and take it out of feather before startup. This arrangement allows the prop to be feathered without shutting down the engine. That allows an idling engine without prop wash, which is not the case with the meridian. This is nice when starting with a GPU or when you’re offloading passengers or baggage without shutting down the engine.
@markg4459
@markg4459 5 жыл бұрын
Really well done. Wonderful explanation of the start up process; what's important and what you're looking for. Enjoyed it & learned a lot.
@MrCannonls
@MrCannonls 5 жыл бұрын
Mark G thanks for letting us know. I flew a couple weeks ago in a Meridian and it was so simple in comparison.
@marc.wrutgers6704
@marc.wrutgers6704 5 жыл бұрын
Q: Why are you going of the Markers and not V1 ,VR because your Stall Horn was going of while you were taking off .
@caprica_13
@caprica_13 4 жыл бұрын
He was measuring the take-off distance, not when to rotate. He did a short-field take off.
@DisruptarianRadio
@DisruptarianRadio 5 жыл бұрын
listen to a radio show about Prop 2 > springvilledevils95.com/radio-springville-class-of-1995/
@jennydiazvigneault5548
@jennydiazvigneault5548 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see. It has a lot in common with starting a turbine helicopter.
@HenriqueMarujo
@HenriqueMarujo 5 жыл бұрын
Helped me alot ! thanks for the video !
@MrCannonls
@MrCannonls 5 жыл бұрын
Henrique We’re glad the video was useful for you.
@HenriqueMarujo
@HenriqueMarujo 5 жыл бұрын
@@MrCannonls Started flying Jet Prop last week, and during my studies i watched this video at least 10 times ! That made everything easier to understand.
@MrSixstring2k
@MrSixstring2k 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, what a great plane.
@mjw1955
@mjw1955 6 жыл бұрын
Is this a clean sheet design or is it related to the Smith ProbJet of years back
@scottmajor2620
@scottmajor2620 6 жыл бұрын
Are the ice door and inertial separator the same thing on the jet prop, or do you have both? Thx.
@MrCannonls
@MrCannonls 6 жыл бұрын
Scott Major It’s the same thing. “Ice door” is a name and “inertial separator” is the function.
@MrCannonls
@MrCannonls 6 жыл бұрын
Also for your interest, when you close the ice door/separator the torque increases by 150 lb ft with the same fuel burn Alternately, you can reset to the same torque and reduce fuel burn by 4 goh
@MrCannonls
@MrCannonls 6 жыл бұрын
GPH
@scottmajor2620
@scottmajor2620 6 жыл бұрын
@@MrCannonls Thank you for the info. I suspected that was the case, but I am only a piston driver myself, so I wasn't sure. :-)
@aeromagnumtv1581
@aeromagnumtv1581 6 жыл бұрын
Very well done!
@ExtremeRecluse
@ExtremeRecluse 6 жыл бұрын
1-2 people on board. That is terrible. Then the costs are not worth the modifications. Good racing plane though.
@MrCannonls
@MrCannonls 6 жыл бұрын
ExtremeRecluse. No doubt its gross is a limitation, but like anything, know your mission and buy accordingly.
@rufusprime99
@rufusprime99 6 жыл бұрын
You'd have to cut back to 400 mile legs with more people. One refuel to Telluride, two to California. If you are thinking commercial, well pony up for the TBM. Smooth power, more of it, extreme reliability, less maintenence. Reliability and power. That is worth it...... if you can afford it.
@coleshipes5485
@coleshipes5485 6 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@davidbooth4677
@davidbooth4677 6 жыл бұрын
Whats the best way to prevent a hot start on a quick turnaround? Like a cross country flight in the south where your just stopping to refuel. Do you just keep the starter engaged longer when starting waiting for the ITT's to cool? I feel like the starter will be engaged for longer than 30 seconds before NG stabilizes trying to allow the ITTs to cool to below 130 before introducing the fuel.
@rainerzufall689
@rainerzufall689 5 жыл бұрын
"where you are stopping for fuel"
@dustyrideretc
@dustyrideretc 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, motoring the starter a little longer to bring down the ITTs a bit will work. Having a GPU-assisted start will typically let you get a higher Ng, bring down ITTs, and give you a cooler start overall.
@nathanslandings1982
@nathanslandings1982 3 ай бұрын
Motor the engine and get ITT below 150
@Niekenn
@Niekenn 6 жыл бұрын
AMAZING!
@victorcarubelli
@victorcarubelli 6 жыл бұрын
Man, I love the JetProp !!!
@sometimesifly_356
@sometimesifly_356 6 жыл бұрын
The Jetprop is my dream plane! I doubt I'll ever be able to afford one, but one day I hope to take a spin in one! You have a beautiful plane, sir!
@puterausman7682
@puterausman7682 6 жыл бұрын
Why they don't put Garrett tpe-33?
@larrysmith6797
@larrysmith6797 6 жыл бұрын
Hang your American flag correctly. The star field is always in the upper left.
@cessnafan
@cessnafan 6 жыл бұрын
These engines are not "derated." They are "flat rated."
@MAGApepe
@MAGApepe 6 жыл бұрын
sure no g3000 there
@battmann678
@battmann678 6 жыл бұрын
an absolutely great comparison from a straight shooter. thanks
@MrCannonls
@MrCannonls 6 жыл бұрын
Batt Mann. I’m glad you liked the video. When we were looking to buy and comparing the two there wasn’t a ton of information on them from owners. We thought we’d try to give back and make the decision a little easier for the next guy.
@mwf117
@mwf117 6 жыл бұрын
This is wonderful, subscribed. Thank you . Batteries, Pumps, Ignitors and Go!
@MrCannonls
@MrCannonls 6 жыл бұрын
Christoff du Plessis Thanks for the kind words!
@juteint4068
@juteint4068 7 жыл бұрын
well......complicated...
@MrCannonls
@MrCannonls 7 жыл бұрын
Ju Teint. The startup procedure certainly is complicated. After that it’s pretty standard. Watch your ITT and push forward to go faster.
@rainerzufall689
@rainerzufall689 5 жыл бұрын
Why is it complicated? I mean he said a lot about it but that is a good thing and makes it easier to understand. You have a few steps to follow (and monitor) and the turbine is running. When wrestling with piston engines you still have several steps to follow and you then need a feeling/knowledge of what to do if the engine doesn't start. I see a lot of guys cranking their engines until they cry for mercy while I am doing my preflight. With the plane I know I only need 1 or 2 seconds to start normally but I still would like to just turn the starter on give it some fuel after stabilizing on a certain percentage and watch ITT and that's basically it. Works every time as long as the battery is ok.